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After the Europa league final last night, here's a list of all European trophies won by Bundesliga clubs in the 21st century (Excluding Bayern)

1x Europa league (Franfurt 2022)

Thanks for reading.

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u/Friendly_Raise9142 — 16 hours ago

Champions League Final Prediction, Let me know your thoughts!

This is it the final game of the season where the best attack in the world Vs the best defence in the world, who will prevail will PSG go back to back for the first time since Real Madrids three peat or will Arsenal make it a historic season and do the double to win their first UCL, only 2 teams in England have won both the premier league and champions league in the same season, City with Pep and United with Ferguson.

It is a one off game in a final anything can happen, we all know PSG are favourites but they aren't huge favourites, how I would split it is PSG 55% and Arsenal 45%.

PSG do have some injury scares with Hakimi, Dembele and Mendes but i have a feeling they'll all be fit for the final, will they be match sharp, I'm sure PSG will have a closed door friendly for that.

Arsenal have Ben White out for the season, Jurien Timber is a doubt but hoping to be back for the final and Mikel Merino whom returned to training today.

The biggest concern for Arsenal will be RB with white and timber both injured, mosquera is looking likely to play there, kvaratskhelia is going to have a field day unless Arteta figures out a plan to stop him he is PSG's most dangerous player especially in transition. Arteta will need to figure out a way to stop PSG from playing their game first, to stop the constant rotation of players position having an impact on Arsenal's defence and with Arsenal's physicality they can do that, it's just a matter of can they last the distance.

For PSG their concern is Arsenal being physical with them and set peices, Bayern created many chances from set peices, if Arsenal can take advantage of that PSG will be in trouble, I remember from the second leg last year at the Parc, the first 20 minutes Arsenal were all over PSG and if donoruma didn't make those saves Arsenal could've easily been ahead, I'm very curious if Arsenal plan to start like that in the final.

A lot of people think PSG will easily win, I don't see that it's going to be a tight final, Arsenal play the fine margins and the same will be here, if they were to lose it will be by the 1 goal.

With Arsenal getting over the line in the premier league the confidence will be sky high, the pressure will be off, PSG will need the UCL and will be under a bit more pressure, ask their fans they aren't too happy with their Ligue 1 season.

My prediction, PSG 1-1 Arsenal, Arsenal will win on penalties and lift their first UCL title.

Let me know your thoughts!

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u/Frosty_Chest_1659 — 18 hours ago

Can Arsenal win the UCL? Paris seems so strong

Paris has become world champion of halalball and will pass the ball and quickly attack when Arsenal will lose its patience ...

Do you think Arsenal can find a way to score and win the game?

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u/Cocacolique — 19 hours ago

What do you guys think of stopping the clock whenever the ball is out of play?

It permanently eliminates time-wasting and effectively the "dark-arts" in the game. Right now, players have a tactical advantage by feigning injury, stalling to restart play or dragging out goal kicks and throw-ins to kill momentum, which essentially makes the game boring. if the clock stops there is no point in wasting time, which in theory makes teams play more positive attacking football for the whole 90 minutes. what do you guys think

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u/highhonourarthur — 1 day ago

Do you think a Victor Wembanyama would be possible in football?

If you don’t know there this player in the nba who can do everything on the court shoot defend block pass and he’s like 7’5. I wanted to ask do you ever think that could happen in football a player who is the best dribbler best goal scorer best passer best defender has no weakness maybe except goal keeping because that would be impossible but everything else

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u/Quirky_Ad_7646 — 1 day ago

Does anyone else think the Europa League should get Champions League drop-downs again?

Whilst it's nice that smaller teams have a chance to win it, the Europa League feels so much more meaningless than before. The Villa players seemed happy at the final whistle, but not overjoyed and ecstatic - the bench just sort of jogged onto the pitch at full time. This reaction was probably because they and their fans expected to win this competition all season. When ucl teams used to drop down, it was really exciting, with clubs that weren't quite the European elite, but excellent sides non-the-less playing out close and hard-fought semi-finals. Winning it back then felt like a proper achivement, and it had prestige.

The solution is pretty simple - have places 16-24 in the ucl group go to the Europa League and remove the champions league playoff. This would not only make the Europa League more exciting but add so much more drama to the Champions League, with clubs not being able to cruise through the league phase with several losses - e.g. PSG in 24/25. Teams placing 16-24 in the Europa League league face would then drop to the conference, with ucl drop-downs contesting a playoff with those placed 8-16 in the Europa League.

What does everyone think?

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u/NiCKi_17282376 — 1 day ago
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Henry’s story about New York and his daughter makes his Red Bulls time feel deeper than people remember

In his interview, Henry talks about playing for New York Red Bulls and the moment with his daughter where he realised his body just wasn’t responding anymore.

He said his daughter asked to play tag and his body couldn't move.

It reframes his MLS spell a bit, because it wasn’t just a retirement league phase. It was clearly a stage where he was becoming aware that his playing career was coming to an end.

Do Red Bulls fans look back at his time there more emotionally now, knowing what he was going through off the pitch and even on it?

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u/RSDFitness — 1 day ago

I feel like everyone knew before season started that Villa will win EL, just like Palace will likely win ECL.

Midtable english clubs have much money than midtable clubs from other leagues, and it's becoming more obvious. Thoughts?

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Are finals being played less conservatively now?

Ever since Lookman bagged that hat-trick when Atalanta destroyed Leverkusen 3-0, it has become oddly normalized to see whoopings all the time in finals. We'd then see PSG whooping Inter, then Chelsea whooping PSG in the CWC. And now today Villa dismantling Freiburg. Back then teams would risk so little and wait it out patiently like the Milan-Juve final in 2003, for example.

Is the old model of the cagey final with minimal risks getting more outdated now?

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u/Greedy_Net_1803 — 1 day ago

Top 5 Ballon Dor Ranking? (IMO)

  1. Harry Kane: (Consistent all season, has become way better in big games, 60 GA, And if he wins the WC, he deserves it without a doubt

  2. Lamine Yamal

  3. Micheal Olise

  4. Kylian Mbappe: ( Wouldve been higher but he has been pretty Inconsistent in the 2nd half of the season, seems like he struggles with injuries)

  5. Ousmane Dembele: ( I dont know if its injuries but for most of the season, he hasnt played that much, hes played 950 mins in the league, that equivalent to 11 full games, obviously hes amazing in the UCL KO games, but come on, that doesnt mean he gets to win it while resting for most of the season while other players work their arses off the whole season🤷‍♂️)

HM

Declan Rice, Kvara, Luis Diaz, Haaland, Vitinha

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u/Super_Afternoon546 — 1 day ago

How in the world did Xabi not work out with Madrid?

When Xabi Alonso joined Leverkusen in October 2022, they were 17th in the Bundesliga.

By the end of the 2023/24 season:

  • They won their first Bundesliga title ever, beating Bayern in their own farmer's league.
  • Went the entire league season unbeaten (Invincibles).
  • Won the DFB-Pokal.
  • Reached the Europa League final (Lookman victims).

So why with a team consisting of:

  • Mbappe, apparently the best player itw
  • Vini, the guy that apparently got robbed of a balon dor like a year ago.
  • Bellingham, personally I think he deserved that balon dor over Rodri and Vini because he was good for club and country, whereas Vini was amazing for club and a complete bum for Brazil that year.
  • Valverde, apparently one of the best midfielders in the world
  • Rodrygo, most underrated player itw and a big game player
  • Asencio, supposedly a Ramos regen
  • Guler, apparently the best youngster itw and better than Yamal and Pedri according to some
  • Mastantuono, 65M (40M for transfer fee) paid for a 17 year old...
  • Courtois, one of the best goalkeepers itw, probably the best if you take into account the past few years.
  • Other decent players like Huijsen, Camavinga and Diaz.

Why did it not work out? Surely it's more than superstars and divas don't listen to his tactics and won't respect him.

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u/jasonsamosa — 1 day ago

Where to watch Freiburg Vs Aston Villa Stream US broadcast (UEFA Europa League Final Live)?

For people watching in the US, UK, or elsewhere in Europe, which service are you using for the final? Is it better through TNT Sports, Paramount+, DAZN, or another platform this year? I’ve seen different answers depending on the region, so I’m curious what’s actually working best for everyone.

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u/North-Candidate1200 — 1 day ago

Why is SAF not criticised like Pep for lack of UCL wins?

I often hear the argument that Pep is a fraud and didn’t win enough UCL. I found he won only 3.

Apparently he is not great enough because he won 1 Ucl in 10 years. People can have their opinions and I respect that. Because of this many people put SAF above him in terms of who is better.

However I have never seen people criticise SAF for winning 2 UCL in 27 years. United were the big dogs during 90’s and was the richest or second richest club during his entire tenure. Money wasn’t the issue and no one challenged what he was doing. Yet United was never the top dog in UCL.

I believe SAF to be the 3rd greatest after pep and carlo but he can easily be considered the best. However, it irritates me when people consider him flawless.

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u/Yo_Baby_Yo123 — 2 days ago

Freiburg v Aston Villa Europa League Final Live, How to stream tonight

Hey people, Find out where to watch the 2025/26 UEFA Europa League final between Freiburg and Aston Villa wherever you are. Is anyone else watching the UEFA Europa League Final 2026 tonight? The Freiburg vs Aston Villa game is going to be absolute chaos. Since it's the second leg, both teams are gonna go all out for that Wembley spot. Would really appreciate genuine recommendations and real experiences. Thanks in advance!

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u/JohnAnderson50 — 1 day ago

The past 2 seasons... Is this PSG's and Arsenal's peak in the history of their club?

Transfer expenses and league aside, last season was definitely PSG's best season in their history since they won the treble. I'm not sure but I think they won 6 trophies last year and only missed out on the CWC. Doesn't that add them to the sextuple list with Bayern 2020 and Barca 2009? Ligue 1, The French Cup and Supercup, UEFA Super Cup, UCL, and Intercontinental.

Is this Arsenal's best season ever? Winning the prem after 22 years and in the UCL final. I don't know that much about Arsenal before the Invincibles season I'll be real. Have they had a better season in their history than this one?

I'm asking this because I know Madrid 5-peated the European Cup (or whatever the UCL was called before the Berlin Wall fell) like right after WW2 or something but doesn't get talked about.

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u/jasonsamosa — 1 day ago

UEFA planning Champions League-style qualifying for 2030 World Cup

Is it wrong of me to suggest that I like this change?

Given the format for qualification to UEFA's club competitions has worked for decades now, why wait this long to make this change for national team competitions?

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u/Islandbreeze93 — 1 day ago

Tacticos on social media are annoying and boring.

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They reduce every win or loss to the tactical genius of a manager. After every game they come out with tactical breakdowns explaining what the losing coach should have done and why the winning coach is apparently a mastermind.

Of course, the guy who wins is always a genius.

For these people, individual quality almost seems irrelevant. According to them, if some players performs at a high level, it’s mostly because of the manager’s tactical system and brilliance.

They never seriously consider physical condition, confidence, mentality, momentum, luck or most importantly individual ability which is still the biggest factor in football.

Football has a thousand unpredictable variables, and tactics are one of the less important aspects compared to player quality.

Even Pep Guardiola has always said his football is simple: stay in the positions he tells you to stay in and run like crazy. He’s also repeatedly said that to play his football you need elite players, and that the players themselves make the real difference more than the coach does.

But for the tacticos on YouTube and X, apparently everything is tactics.

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u/Window_Professional — 1 day ago

Do players really get better as they age?

Most players get worse instead of getting better as they get older for some reason, an example is coutinho, I dont know if theyre just plagued with injuries or get lazier, but generally, you'd assume players would get better or atleast stay at the same level as they age🤷‍♂️

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u/Super_Afternoon546 — 1 day ago

Is there a hope for German league too?

So now that Arsenal finally won the league and City — the main farmer of the Premier League — have lost the title for the second straight season, do you think there’s any hope for the Bu(m)desliga to stop being a farmers league too? Bayern winning 13 of the last 14 titles has made it hard to watch for a while. I really miss the old Dortmund-Bayern rivalry, which honestly died years ago. Hopefully the Bu(m)desliga can become exciting again the same way the Premier League recovered after City’s domination. What do you think?

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u/LiterallynobodyY — 1 day ago