One thing that bothers me is why on earth would the creator of the universe want us to offer up our lives for any religion? It makes no sense to me. The early Babi's gave their lives. I suppose in exchange for eternal life? Another example of an extremist religion, bordering on cultism. That's a tipoff to those with half a brain, not to join that faith. IMO
How do you understand this?
"O handmaid of the Lord! Speak thou no word of politics; thy task concerneth the life of the soul, for this verily leadeth to man's joy in the world of God. Except to speak well of them, make thou no mention of the earth's kings, and the worldly governments thereof..."
The whole point is to convert people and then once they convert then it’s like “alright yay onto the next victim we’re gonna manipulate and pretend to befriend but actually we’re two-faced and just want the numbers to grow.”
And don’t even get me started on how the basis of the religion makes no sense. How can Islam and Hinduism come from the same God? It really takes 2 seconds of critical thinking to know this is some made up bs.
Also they’ve got LSA and NSA leaders who are literally abusers at home. My father’s side of the family are like the ring leaders in our country’s Bahai community, meanwhile at home he’s beating his wife infront of his small children. How can men like this be admired and be the leaders of a religion claiming to treat men and women equally?
So glad I left this toxic cult.
Can someone help me with the source that Abdul baha said lesser peace will happen by 2000? Also I asked my father about he said god changes his plans lol, I told him what is the wisdom behind that? and that means anything being said cannot be taken into account like that? he said this is not important let’s focus on the main idea of the faith, man I don’t know, it just feels this is just a cult and people are brainwashe, I could not continue the convo so I left the room and said it is useless talking about this. Anyways I am mostly ranting here
I’m not Baha’i myself but was curious; from what I’ve read about the Baha’i, some of the holiest places in their faith are in Israel. And knowing how they’re strongly against Iran, it’s not bad to think many are Zionists. How true is it and to what degree? Or any other info?
Just wondering what you say to a person who approaches you now about the Baha’i Faith! Of course I mean to someone you don’t already know.
Sometimes you can feel when someone wants to talk about their faith or religious community, for whatever reason. They want to talk about what it means to them, or maybe they do want to proselytize. Do you try and shut down the conversation before it starts? Does that work? Or do you wait for the person to start being more overt and explicit? Are you kind or more aggressive?
Just wondering…
I joined the Baha'i Faith at age 21 in a small town. Where we had real firesides in the woods, with a fire burning! It was pretty cool, I have to say.
Then I moved to a big city, and my world expanded. By age 32 or so, wasn't into the Faith too much. And pretty much stopped going to meetings. When I was in my early 50's I started going again to Ruhi. And I was kinda turned off by Ruhi deepenings. We were being trained to all think alike and go out to get converts. Then I remember one meeting when a Regional teaching committee guy came and gave a talk of sorts. And I remember feeling like, wow, this guy is so extreme. It was almost like a militaristic type of talk. And we were supposed to follow orders and convert the world, type of feeling.
Another huge turn off for me. I don't like groups as I am an introvert. And I did the street teaching thing in my early years, and went to a foreign country and did a short stint teaching the Faith. And now when I look back, I feel almost ashamed of doing that. It's embarassing to me.
So again I stopped going to meetings. And now in my mid 70s, I have not been to a meeting. And you know what? And this is a big turn off for me, I never heard from the Baha'i community except for a few emails here and there. Never got a phone call from anyone, or anything. So I think, all those years of service way back when, and I don't even rate a how do you do! That made me angry.
So the Faith is just a huge teaching/converting people machine. And I remember thinking in my 30s that the moral standard is so high, that it is unrealistic for mortal people to attain.
And after studying religion for 3 decades, taking Buddhist classes, studying atheism, deism, and listening to countless debates between Christians and Atheists, I have concluded that religion is man-made. And when I think of the Baha'i Faith, there are principles I agree with, but overall the control it exerts over its followers, as with all religions, makes me want to run and hide.
There are other things I could say, but I'll stop here.
Well, that's my 50 year story of my on and off relationship with the Faith.
"What's that?" is often stated when encountering the Baha'i faith for the first time.
What are your go to explanations that provide the most information in the most concise manor?
Hello
I met a bahai some years ago. After the initial love bombing phase which really captured me came the truth. The backbiting, the deciet etc.
I now realise Bahais groom people, take their money and give it directly to the faith. I am involved in a legal case to recover funds stolen from an elderly couple.
If anyone has similar stories please get in touch. This must not be allowed to carry on. The lsa and nsa are complicit as they closed me down quickly refusing to hear true versions.
I have nothing against the faiths founders but this group is spiraling out of control and must be stopped.