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The Lack of Democracy in Islamic Countries and Those Who Benefit From It

The entire dollar system depends on Gulf oil being priced in dollars, which only works if the monarchies stay in power. Gulf sovereign wealth funds are sunk deep into Wall Street and the City of London. There are people whose entire financial world depends on these regimes not falling.

Britain, France, the US all sell arms to these regimes. USAID funded the University of Nebraska to produce textbooks for Afghan children filled with jihadist content and violent imagery to radicalise them against the Soviets. The same books were later used by the Taliban. These are also the same countries that drew the borders of the Middle East in the first place, largely at a conference table, largely with reference to their own interests.

The US backed Zia in Pakistan, a military dictator who Islamised the curriculum, crushed the left, and built the exact infrastructure that became the Taliban. In Egypt an elected government was replaced by a military coup and the West funded it without particular embarrassment. The US helped suppress the Bahrain uprising entirely. When Sheikha Latifa, daughter of Dubai's ruler, tried to flee by boat, the Indian coastguard intercepted her vessel in international waters and handed her back. In Indonesia over a million communists, secularists and leftists were killed in 1965 with the US providing the kill lists. Communists were branded as godless to mobilise religious organisations against them.

Mosaddegh in Iran was a democratically elected leader who nationalised oil and was overthrown by the CIA. Nasser was a secular Arab nationalist. The Afghan government before the Soviet invasion ran girls' schools. Saudi Arabia, with full Western backing, spent decades funding Wahhabi madrassas across Pakistan, Indonesia and Africa as a direct counterweight to secular and leftist movements. Western powers used Islamists against these movements because religious conservatives didn't threaten the oil.

Syria, Libya, Iraq are all more Islamist now than before Western intervention. And as for the people themselves : Pew Research finds majorities in Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, Turkey and Indonesia saying democracy is the best form of government. The same Gallup polling shows these populations largely don't believe the US is serious about promoting it in their region. On the available evidence, it is difficult to argue that they are wrong.

Aren't we overlooking the systemic and structural forces at play when we attribute the absence of democracy in these countries purely to religion?

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u/Real-Wash3031 — 4 days ago
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17f looking for friends

I’m a 17 yr old ex muslim, i am currently closeted and only 1 person in my life knows i am. Im looking for friends, preferably similar age, to just talk with, with no judgement

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u/National-Chef-5516 — 4 days ago
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Exactly, if some Muslims are insulting us, just because we tell the truth, then that's their problem, since they can't handle it.

u/Ok-Equivalent7447 — 4 days ago
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Issue With Sex Slavery / Rape in Islam.

Issue With Sex Slavery/Rape in Islam!

Argument: Sexual Slavery in Islam Permitted and Encouraged Non-Consensual Acts (Rape) To begin, it's important to establish the permissibility of sexual relations with captives in Islam and the encouragement of non-consensual acts. The evidence supporting this claim comes from both the Hadiths and Quranic verses. Prophet Muhammad's Approval of Sexual Relations with Captives In a hadith narrated by Abu Surma (Sahih Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Hadith 135), he relates a conversation about 'azl (coitus interruptus). He says, "Did you hear Allah's Messenger mentioning al-'azl?" The companions confirm they had, and then Abu Surma recounts: "We went out with Allah's Messenger on the expedition to Banu al-Mustaliq and took some Arab women as captives, and desired women and loved to do coitus interruptus ('azl), so we intended to do it. We asked Allah's Messenger, and he said, 'It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born until the Day of Resurrection will be born!" This hadith shows that during the expedition, the companions took female captives and had sexual relations with them. They sought guidance from Prophet Muhammad regarding the practice of 'azl, and he gave his approval, without addressing any concerns about the captives' consent. The lack of prohibition suggests that these captives were viewed as lawful to engage with sexually, even without their consent.

Quranic Basis for Sexual Relations with Female Captives: The Quran also supports this view. In Surah An-Nisa (4:24), it says: "And [forbidden to you are] married women except those your right hands possess. [This is] the decree of Allah upon you. And lawful to you are all others beyond these, provided that you seek them [in marriage] with your property, desiring chastity, not unlawful sexual intercourse." This verse explicitly allows sexual relations with female captives (those your right hands possess), even if they were married before. This command from Allah clearly permits captors to have sex with these women, irrespective of their previous marital status or any objection on the part of the captives. No mention is made of the captives' consent, suggesting that it was not required.

Addressing Counterarguments: The Treatment of Slaves and Animals One argument against this position is that Islam prohibits harming slaves, implying that non-consensual sexual acts might have been avoided. For instance, there are hadiths that condemn hitting slaves in the face. In Sahih Muslim, Book 15, Hadith 4082, it is reported that the Prophet condemned the striking of a slave's face when someone slapped a slave girl. The Prophet said: "Did you not know it is forbidden to strike the face?" Additionally, in Sahih Muslim, Book 24, Hadith 5281, it is narrated that the Prophet cursed the branding of an animal on the face: "May Allah curse the one who branded it on the face." While these hadiths do show a prohibition on striking the face, they are specifically related to animals and slaves, not the act of sexual relations with them. The' & remains that while strikina slaves or animals in the face is prohibited, this does not extend to prohibiting sexual relations with slaves or female captives, as there are no similar hadiths condemning such acts. Moreover, Islam allows for the killing of animals for food or self-defense, which is far more extreme than a slap across the face or branding. This disparity suggests that the prohibition on harming animals or slaves does not extend to prohibiting sexual relations, even if those acts are non-consensual.

Female Captives and the Obligation of Sexual Relations: Another counterargument might suggest that female captives were treated humanely and could refuse sex. However, there is no evidence supporting this. For example, in Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Hadith 460, it is narrated that when a wife refuses sex, "the ngels curse her until morning." This hadith shows that a wife has as an obligation to her husband to engage in sexual relations. If a wife can be cursed by angels for refusing sex, it seems unlikely that a captive woman— whose status is lower than that of a wife —would have the right to refuse her captor's demands. In contrast, no hadith exists that mentions female captives refusing sex or the consequences they might face for doing so. This lack of evidence further supports the view that captives were not afforded the right to refuse sexual relations and were essentially obligated to comply with the desires of their captors.

Conclusion: In summary, the Quran and hadiths clearly establish the permissibility of sexual relations with female captives in Islam. The Quranic verse (4:24) and the Hadith of Abu Surma both show that Prophet Muhammad and Islamic teachings allowed for sexual interactions with captives, with no requirement for their consent. Additionally, while some hadiths prohibit harming slaves and animals in specific ways, there is no prohibition on non-consensual sexual acts with captives. The lack of any hadith addressing what happens when a captive refuses sex further suggests that such refusal was not permitted.

(if i am wrong about anything please provide evidence for claims like i have in comments..)

i honestly do want explanations for this as well. the essay was for me to not be gaslit into believing "oh, xyz didn't happen!"

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u/Holiday_Tank3113 — 7 days ago
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Good, I'm glad that black dude calling out of his disgusting behaviour, for casually insulting a Muslim woman.

u/Ok-Equivalent7447 — 4 days ago
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Honour killing and celebration after killing.......

I have no fuckin word to say........at this point Epstein seems safer then islam 💔

u/Classic-Difficulty12 — 7 days ago
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Trying to Escape as a Saudi Woman

Hi everyone,

I'm a student from Saudi Arabia who is trying to move to the United States to attend college and eventually seek asylum due to my personal circumstances. I've worked hard to get accepted into a U.S. university, but my biggest obstacle is funding.

I've been applying for scholarships, grants, and other financial aid, and I've also reached out to numerous organizations that I hoped might be able to help. Unfortunately, I either haven't received a response or have been told they aren't able to provide financial assistance.

Because I'm considering taking a gap semester after arriving in Los Angeles, I'm trying to raise enough money to cover essential living expenses such as housing, food, transportation, and other basic necessities during those first few months while I get settled and work toward becoming financially independent.

I'm not looking for a permanent source of support—just enough help to get through this transition so I can continue my education and build a stable future.

If anyone knows of organizations, scholarships, emergency assistance programs, or other resources that might be able to help someone in my situation, I would be incredibly grateful. Even advice, referrals, or sharing this post would mean a lot.

Thank you so much for taking the time to read this.

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u/TSfanWillow_7907 — 4 days ago

I’m confused as to why educated women still love Islam so much ?

It confuses me when I meet many well educated women advocate for Islam so much ? How can they read certain verses from the Quran and Hadith and still say they’re a proud Muslim ?

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u/yoona27 — 6 days ago
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Hi. Some Questions.

Hi everyone,

I’m looking for any local ex-Muslim groups in Toronto, Canada, and I’d also appreciate any recommendations for groups or communities that help people find a marriage partner.

Safety is very important to me. I need a partner who values my safety, independence, and peace, and who understands the need to keep up appearances. I also want to be with someone who treats me like a human being and respects me as an equal. But would also be able to support me financially (or family if possible) and is responsible enough.

I’m currently under a lot of pressure to find a match, and the situation feels very serious for me. If anyone knows of any supportive communities, local groups, or safe ways to connect with others in a similar situation, I would be grateful for your help.

Thank you.

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u/SakuraDusk — 5 days ago

Hell is majority women

In Sahih al-Bukhari 29, Book 2, Hadith 22, the prophet says that majority of hellfire’s inhabitants are women because they are ungrateful to their husbands. Meanwhile, 90% of all violent crimes are committed by men..

Tell me again how Islam is such a feminist religion.

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u/Altruistic-Drag-6942 — 6 days ago
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Let’s share our fashion Pinterest boards!

Hey gals! Reclaiming our style and figuring out how we want to express ourselves to the world is such a huge part of breaking our shackles.

I thought it would be fun to share our fashion Pinterest boards, see what aesthetics we have in common and connect over our favorite styles.

Let's drop our links below, I'd love to see what you guys are pinning 😆

u/Consistent-Concept67 — 8 days ago
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This religion makes me feel like I don't matter

Yes you read that right. I don't matter according to Islam and I can never view it as a peaceful religion and the people who say that it is are probably either not reading the Qur'an or they have read it through a blind lense.

I don't feel like my family views me completely as a human being, but a doll instead. Whenever I warn them about something, they laugh it off. Whenever my brothers do something that piss me off, they immediately get defended. I'm done. I'm so done. I'm feeling extremely suicidal because of this religion and god.

I don't know if I should sleep at night with all this stress about the current state of world. I don't who to reach out to about this since one of my friends are busy and I don't want to pressure them so this is the only place I can openly rant about stuff like this. Like I'm sorry, but I've been patient with my family enough. They are really starting to get into my nerves and I so can't wait to move out of that shitty country of mine and maybe even go on nc with some of my family members at least, but noo I can't because apparently it's haram to abandon your family. You literally have to "obey" them like cult leaders.

I just want everything to get better and live a normal life. That's all I ask for.

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u/batcaverose9 — 7 days ago
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Help me continue my education and build an independent future

Hi everyone,

I'm currently raising funds to continue my education and cover essential expenses like tuition, housing, and food while I work toward completing my degree.

I've exhausted many of the options available to me and have been reaching out to organizations, communities, and individuals who may be willing to help or share my fundraiser. Every donation, no matter the amount, genuinely makes a difference, and even sharing my campaign would mean the world to me.

If you'd like to read more about my situation or support my fundraiser, here's the link:

https://gofund.me/fe480bce2

Thank you so much for taking the time to read this.

u/TSfanWillow_7907 — 7 days ago