r/growthplates
Can there be additional vertebral growth after ring apophysis fusion?
AI says yes. I have seen several articles that suggest even after fusion of ring apophysis, it is the "epiphyseal stage" - this sounds like the growth plate can still be active for some time, no?
Also, how much can sacral growth contribute, and do you have resources for sacral aging?
Thanks.
Left hand X-ray bone age?
How much time is left, I am curious as to where I’d end up? (Currently 178cm 51🔄 (endocrinologist said BA of 17) (For reference I’m male, mom 5’6 dad 5’11. Mom side: grandpa 6’3, great grandpa 6’5, great great grandpa 6’6. Dad side: mainly all slightly above average height) I think I’m in the middle of tanner stage 4 currently as well. Started puberty mid of 6th grade and it picked up at the start of 7th.
Bone age how tall can I end up
My bone age is 14,5 but I am actually 16,5 I did alot of research but it's always mixed they say sometimes I have achieved 92% of my height other study says I have achieved 96% but the most frequent number is 188 final height I am okay with it but I've always hoped for 190 I have no body hair skinny 181,5 currently 20,5 cm hand length my dad is 184 mom 172 I wanna know how tall I will be
Bone age how much height is left
Title. Im a 18.6 year old male, i went to the doctor recently and they said my bone age was 17. My father is 190cm (6’3) and my mother is 157cm (5’2), and I stand around 176cm (5’9).
Female 12 year old predicted adult height 4.7 and a half
My daughter is 12.6 and 4 foot 5 1/2 inches tall. Her bone age is 13.6
Impression from radiologist is normal skeletal maturity.
Two standard deviation is 20.5 months using brush foundation method
The endocrinologist thinks that her finger growth plates have fused
Endo also thinks she can grow only 2 inches taller at this point. Her adult height will be 4.7 and a half inches.
Can anyone ever have growth plates in their wrist and knee open for little longer for 2 to 3 years after their finger growth plates have fused
Is there a 1 percent chance that my daughter can grow for 2 more years? Is there 1 percent chance that my daughter can grow to a 4.8 or 4.9?
By the way she does not have a growth harmone deficiency. Endo assures a .5 inch to one inch addition with gh injections. I do not want to risk it for an inch
The endo said she is in tanner 4 which is the 4th stage of puberty
She started menarch 6 months back when she was 12 years old
She had 3 inches growth from 11 to 12 years while usually she only grows 2 inches every year.
After menarch in the past 6 months it is half inch or one inch growth im not able to say exactly.
Appreciate your inputs so much.
How much growth do I have left?
These are from 9/30/25 and I’ve grown like an inch since.
Pyle-Hoerr Knee Skeletal Age Atlas - An Educational Overview
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jB30zoWwVaXqhphMkXSDfe5cKlI2B4nVRyNQCVilsT4/edit?usp=drivesdk
This paper of mine provides a comprehensive overview of the Hoerr-Pyle knee atlas, the biological timeline of knee skeletal maturation and growth plate senescence, normal and extreme variation in skeletal development, and the practical role of knee bone age as one component within a broader framework for estimating remaining growth and overall maturity. I do go over roughly how much growth remains quantitatively assuming normal markers of variation and health.
What should the next one be?
- Pyle-Hoerr Knee Skeletal Age Atlas - An Educational Overview
- BA milestones and rough estimates of remaining growth for the average male (0-19Y) or female (0-18Y)
- A History of Forensic Age Estimation: What Adolescent Skeletal Remains Have Taught Us About Human Growth and Maturation
- Bones of young WW1 and WW2 soldiers that have been recovered from the ground where they fell during action.
- Ancient Skeletal Remains of Young Children.
- An Educational Overview of Growth Plate Maturity through Youth and Bony Union at the Physis (with pictures of such bone ends).
Vote.
How much Growth Is Left
I'm a 17.1 old Height 5ft 8.9 Inch My parents Are mom 5ft 2 inch dad 5ft 5 inch
I Started Taking nutritional Supplements And eating eggs like crazy Because in my country Eating 5 Eggs make your body Temperature Hot my bodyweight was 56kg when I was 15 year old but since I visited my nana nani
My body weight went To 83 kg
Like 10-6 kg fat
And Some lean muscles
Got xray this year's January
My doctor endocrinologist and. Orthopedic surgeon Said Growth plates are Open orthopedic surgeon Said your bone age is about 15.6/ 16 yr old
Taking premium Supplements from age 15
Like magnesium glycinate
Zinc picolnate
Vitamin D3 2000iu
Vita k2 m7 100mcg
L arginine
I think The secret about my growth was i Really love Mutton liver beef liver from young age like 7 year old I'm eating a plate of fried mutton liver
Hoping For a Good reply
17m can I still grow?
I am 5’10 right now and I went to see the doctor to get a left wrist x ray to see my bone age. In the report my doctor said I have a bone age of 17 years old, currently I am about 17.6 years old. I am just wondering if you think I may have any more growth left?
are they closed?
13y.o 192cm wii l reach 200+ or it's over for me. ARE THEY CLOSED???
Which future technology will likely help adults to grow
I know about the surgery, but i wanna know about not avaliable yet stuff, that are in test that can actually be good
For educational use-related inquiries: new feature
We are implementing a new feature of the subreddit: BA estimations using radiographs labeled "for educational use". With this, you may post a radiograph and ask about the status of the physes present in the image while citing the source. For any inquiries that do not include the source citation and photo ID in the body, my staff and I can simply run these images online to find perfect matches, and that will help us find where you found the image.
This post is meant to act as a guide in finding said items and how to make sure the process of obtaining and posting the items remains legal and ethical. This way, we are not held liable if we answer your question, and you proceed to compare your image with the item you found. Here's a list of things to look for after you've discovered the image you want to use for your inquiry:
Step 1: ensure it is public domain
Not all radiographs that are labeled for educational use may be public domain. This means you must acquire the copyright holder's permission to use the image in a public or online teaching setting. It may also mean purchasing the item if it is for sale, instead of simply downloading the image and proceeding without giving payment.
To know if an image is available to use freely, you must first identify the image's licensing terms, as some digital atlases may permit redistribution with attribution, while others may only permit viewing or limited classroom use. If the image explicitly allows educational redistribution, you may download the image and proceed from there without facing any potential copyright pushback if the owner discovers your inquiry with attached image on the Internet.
Step 2: cite the source
In the body text, you shall cite the source of which the radiograph(s) were obtained. Include the image ID, the figure number, the atlas page, the DOI (if applicable), and the author / publisher's information.
If we find that the image is not for redistribution, the post is to be automatically removed with our new message: "Your post has been removed due to containing images or other digital files that are not legally available for redistribution."
What is a DOI?
A DOI, or Digital Object Identifier, is a permanent, unique identifier that helps to assign scholarly work.
You might first see this for example: "DOI: 10.1001/jama.2025.12345"
Translate this DOI into a permanent link to get: "https://doi.org"
Then, modulate this link to get: "https://doi.org/10.1001/jama.2025.12345"
Won't link you anywhere, but it's a good example of how the system functions
Step 3: respect the patient's privacy
This does not mean you have to avoid redistributing the image if it is explicitly for educational reuse. However, this does require that you censor or crop out any visible patient information, including: patient ID and legal name, hospital or clinic name, chronological age, and date of birth.
Most educational databases delist identifiable information, but it's still best if you ensure there is no personal information visible on the image or around it.
This is not to circumvent our permanent policy of diagnosing or interpreting personal radiographs belonging to real patients without rights to redistribute or otherwise.
A good prompt to follow with your inquiry's body text is: "Educational discussion only. Do not use this image for diagnosis. Based on the radiograph, would you describe the physis as open, narrowing, partially fused, or fused?"
Or, you can simply include just the last sentence.
All staff are required to run the information online regardless to ensure legitimacy.
Good sources of radiographs that are largely public domain
Wikimedia Commons (personal favorite)
OpenStax A&P
NIH Image Gallery
For Creative Commons
A CC is a set of licenses that creators may attach to their work, informing others what they are allowed to do with it.
Radiopaedia (personal favorite)
Open-i (National Library of Medicine)
Peer-reviews
PubMed Central is a good one because most articles are published under CC-BY licenses, meaning redistribution with attribution is permitted.
Avoid
Hospital websites.
Randomized Google images.
Commercial atlas images from the Gruelich-Pyle (hand-wrist atlas) Hoerr-Pyle (knee skeletal age atlas), or proprietary radiology textbooks unless the publisher explicitly grants redistribution rights.
The images included in the post have information sufficient for my staff and I to allow total redistribution to r/growthplates
17M - Want to take Erdafitinib for height.. Grew about 2-3 inches over the last 2 yrs
Im trying to maximize my genetic potential,
Im 5.9, edging 5'10 even though people say im 5'10
IM trying to reach atleast 6ft
my dad is 5'11, my moms 5'3,
The hope carrying me is that for some reason every male in my dads family is always taller than their own dad, its always been happening aslong as my dad and grandpa can remember.
My grandpa had like 6 brothers and their sons all attest to it.
I want to hop on Erdfitinhib for height since it inhibts frfg3, but im afraid of the side effects
has anyone come with a stack to help mitigate the side effects
im 5'9, 145-147LB, looking for dosing help aswell.
P.S: My dad was a late bloomer, and i think i might be do, ive been feeling more growth related pains on my knee, slight stretch marks where the shoulder and bicep meet, and an Osgood-Schlatter bump on my left knee (which is new) and maybe im imagining this, but another slightly smaller one on my right knee.
17m how much growth do I still have?
I recently went to the doctor to get a left wrist x ray to assess my bone age. My doctor said my bone age is 17 years, which they said is normal considering I am 17.7 years old. In the past 6 months I grew an inch from just under 5’9 to just under 5’10. Just off this my doctor said I am most likely not doing growing but I am still curious on peoples opinions as I am hopping to reach 6ft. My dad is 6ft and grew in college, and his brothers did as well they are 6’2.
What are ur guys’s opinions? Would u say I have growth left? I attached a photo of my wrist x ray and growth chart
I want to say that I got a a full ba x ray from an endocrinologist
What does closure mean for a growth plate?
This one just crossed my mind, so it'll be quicker.
Many people tend to conflate "fusion" and "closing" when, while part of the same general process, indicate two separate phases of senescence.
Closure = used to indicate that the growth plate is actively undergoing puberty-driven senescence, from the earliest narrowing stage years before definitive fusion to full union much later.
Fusion = the actual process of bony union at the growth plate, where the metaphysis and epiphysis make official contact.
The "merge" is often described throughout this general process. The growth plate progressively narrows or gets thinner, and the near-mature epiphysis and metaphysis merge closer with time and maturation of the physis. At early narrowing, epiphysis is generally about 2 mm away from the metaphyseal front, depending on the bone. At mid stage narrowing, this distance becomes further widened to about 1-2 mm or so. At late narrowing, the epiphysis and metaphysis are generally no farther than 1 mm apart, and this is roughly close enough for trabecular bridges to begin forming and bridging the two regions of bone effectively. At early union, the physis is merely compartmentalized and no longer considered unrestricted, whole in microstructure, or fully functional. Instead, its functionality reduces greatly over the coming months to a couple of years; proliferative figures dropping, central fusion initiating, and peripheral regions remaining wider due to biomechanics. Varies by the bone end and type of bone.
At this stage, a doctor would generally refer to this process as "union" or "fusion". Before then, the doctor may call the process "closure" or say the growth plates have begun closing. Some doctors may interchange the two, though.
For most long bone ends, the narrowing process generally initiates roughly immediately after PHV, or within the first months after. Some bone ends may begin narrowing around the time of PHV or during the months leading up to it, specifically the phalanges in the fingers and toes as one example.
educational use, are these plates open
educational use, was wondering if these plates are open or fused