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I need advice - what's the severity of a letter of expectations?

Hi all - I could use some advice. Former fed here, new to a managerial role with the enterprise. I was blindsided by a letter of expectations a few days ago and I'm feeling pretty terrible about it. I've seen this play out more than a few times at HHS. Regardless of how it's presented, the federal analog is terminal in practice. Over 15+ years, the one person I know of who navigated it well enough to avoid a PIP still left shortly after.

Two things making it worse - I'm still on probation, and part of my success criteria depends on subjective assessments from peers. Nevertheless, I really like my job and my team, and generally think (thought, maybe) highly of our director. I really want to believe I could turn this around, but I don't want to fool myself.

Previously I'd tell anyone in my position to find another job ASAP, and if they find one take it, zero exceptions. Even without the subjective criteria and probation.

Tell me LOEs are used differently here?

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u/agreeable_anthill_29 — 7 hours ago

WFH from different state

If it ok to work from a different state when you are working from home? I'm asking because we need to unexpectedly emergency travel but I cant take any time off from work so I was going to work remotely one day from my husbands mom's place so I could go with him. Wasn't sure if there are any rules against that. Going to ask my supervisor tomorrow but looking for what to expect when asking. Thanks.

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u/marshall_tony — 20 hours ago

Applying for a job after not resigning in good standing

A little over a year ago I quit my state job without giving a two week notice, which was required to resign in good standing. I took some time off, started grad school, and am making a career change. I don't know if it matters, but I was a non-represented employee that hadn't yet cleared the probationary period.

Am I pretty much SOL for applying to a new state job if I didn't leave my previous job in good standing? I'm assuming this would come up when a hiring manager does an employment check.

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How do I know my correct length of service for pension vesting?

I have worked for the state of MN for almost 2 years. However, it lists my start date in self service benefits in 2022 due to previous experience. Which start date should I consider when determining if I am already vested for my pension or need to work longer for it?

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u/umngopher2202 — 2 days ago

The MAPE Solidarity Caucus overwhelmingly endorses Nicole for President and Maureen for VP!

The Nicole endorsement was unanimous among members of the MAPE Solidarity Caucus, and 97 percent of Solidarity Caucus members endorsed Maureen. This was after the candidates participated in a Solidarity Caucus candidate forum, where they each were asked tough questions concerning negotiations, the contract, striking, and other issues our members deeply care about.

Candidate forums are happening as we speak across many of the locals/regions, including some statewide forums. Check here for a list of forums.

And, of course, if you're not yet a MAPE member, you need to sign up by the 22nd to have the power to vote!

u/Minnesota_Empathy — 3 days ago
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Confused about the MN State Hiring Process

Hi everyone,

I’ve applied for over 10 positions with the State of Minnesota. In each case, I received an email saying I met the minimum qualifications and that my application had been forwarded to the hiring managers. However, after waiting at least a month, every one of them eventually came back with: “This is to notify you that you have not been chosen to proceed further in the selection process.”

What’s confusing is that, based on my skills and experience, I honestly feel overqualified for many of these roles. At this point, I really don’t know what’s going on or what I may be doing wrong. Has anyone else experienced something similar with the state hiring process? Thank you.

Edit: I’m not unemployed — I currently work in the private sector. In fact, all of the state positions I applied for pay less than what I’m currently making. My interest in state jobs is more about stability, long-term opportunities, and work-life balance.

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u/Adventurous-Grab9154 — 7 days ago

MAPE Elections: Why I'm Supporting Nicole Juan for President

Hey folks! I'll start off by saying I'm an active MAPE member and volunteer, but I'm not an official member of the campaign I'll be promoting in this post. I wasn't asked by the campaign to share my thoughts, and I'm doing so purely because I want to spread the good word. I'll also mention that the views in this post are my own and don't reflect MAPE as an organization.

With those disclaimers out of the way, I want to share my thoughts on the upcoming MAPE elections. It's going to be an absolutely crucial one, where we'll be electing a new statewide President, statewide VP, negotiators, and many other local positions throughout the union. If you are represented by MAPE but are not a member (someone who pays dues), you only have about a week remaining to sign up in order to be eligible to vote. Sign up here!

The next few years are going to be absolutely brutal; it's been bad enough with Walz's disastrous RTO order and bad faith bargaining during the 2025 negotiations cycle, and I'm confident that, regardless if Klobuchar or a Republican become our next governor, negotiations in 2027 will be even more challenging than 2025. I have zero faith that the top DFL or Republican candidates would be willing to negotiate with us in good faith, so we need to prepare, and one of the best ways to do so is by filling positions with those with the leadership, temperament, and dedication to fight for our rights and help us finally come out on top. Moreover, the President serves as the head negotiator for MAPE, so it's imperative we get the right leader in office so we can stand the best chance during and beyond negotiations.

With that in mind, I'm enthusiastically recommending that members consider voting Nicole Juan for President.

Nicole has been relentlessly working to build MAPE's political and labor power as the Chair of the Political Council, and I've witnessed firsthand the positive impact that she has brought to our union, especially as it relates to increased civic participation among MAPE members, whether that be through getting members connected with their state legislators on bills that matter to them (and ones which would be harmful to us), organizing turnouts to MAPE's Lobby Day at the state capitol, and helping to organize our first big push toward getting members to participate in the DFL and GOP caucus and convention processes.

We've heard from state legislative leaders and candidates that they've noticed and felt our presence at conventions, and by showing up to let our elected leaders and candidates know we mean business, our odds at pushing politicians to be a bit more labor friendly will only grow, which will only help us during contract negotiations. Nicole has been an instrumental force in these efforts, helping fellow MAPE colleagues realize that our workplace conditions are intrinsically tied to the political process, a process that needs involvement from state workers. The legislature has ignored state workers for far too long, and quite frankly, that's now changing thanks, in part, to Nicole's strategic leadership.

Through my conversations with Nicole, I'm confident that she'd be an effective President, leading our union through the tough headwinds of a brutal round of contract negotiations and the myriad of other challenges we face: from federal budget cuts which impact a good chunk of state workers, to unfounded attacks from the far right who want to slash our jobs as punishment for "fraud, waste, and abuse" that is perpetrated by third-parties, to the Freedom Foundation-funded campaigns to brainwash members into dropping their membership, hoping to slowly drain our resources so unions lose their collective bargaining power, only benefiting the oligarchy.

In speaking with fellow MAPE colleagues from across the state who've had the pleasure of working with Nicole, I've only heard positive stories regarding their interactions, and as someone who is helping to organize MAPE's showing at the upcoming DFL convention in Rochester, I can honestly say that she's been among the most accommodating and collaborative folks in our union. I know that she'll fight to not just preserve our healthcare, but to also help us achieve MEANINGFUL pay increases, Work from Home protections, and many other victories that we absolutely need, and if we do go on strike, I have complete confidence that she'll lead the picket lines with the strength and tenacity of an effective union leader so that we can come out of it in a much better position than where we started.

As we approach this upcoming election, I would encourage everyone to support Nicole. She is incredibly responsive to inquiries, and if you have questions for her, you can find her email address and social media accounts here. On her website, you can also find the huge list of endorsements she earned from various MAPE local, regional, and statewide leaders.

Of course, I'd also love to see you all research all the candidates and reach out to them with questions. MAPE's upcoming candidate forums will be an excellent opportunity for you to listen to and compare each of the candidates and make up your own minds. You can find a list of forums here.

Thanks for giving this post a read, and I hope you consider casting your vote for Nicole!

 Edit - The comments here do more justice for Nicole than I ever could, so please give those a read too!

u/Minnesota_Empathy — 7 days ago

MAPE Internal Elections

I'm part of the campaign to elect Kirsten Peterson (KP) for president, Jennifer Johnson for VP, and Jovae Priebe for organizing council. This campaign is different from other elections I've witnessed because the purpose is to get a slate of candidates elected at MAPE who all have a similar goal in mind - getting MAPE members strike ready and truly fight for the contract we deserve. This doesn't stop at these three candidates though because we are also working to get negotiators elected that are prioritizing a strike-readiness mindset and we have a negotiator on the ballot for almost every region aligned with this goal.

The idea of getting a slate of candidates to run on a platform is not new to politics, but it is different than what I have seen done for MAPE internal elections in the past. What I have seen in past elections is that candidates run on their own personalities, accomplishments and ideas. I think that is a fine way of going about it, but I also think we are due for some change at MAPE. I believe the first step is electing candidates who are running on a platform because it's easier to hold them accountable that way.

KP, Jen, and Jovae are also individually awesome people that I would like to see get elected, but the idea of the slate is what got me on board the campaign. We need a strong group of coordinated people to get impactful changes in our contract next year and it starts with electing people who have that as their primary vision.

If you want to learn more, please visit http://www.kpformape.com

Thanks for reading and please let us know your thoughts in the comments!

u/dfree3305 — 8 days ago

No hope for dismissing poor performer?

We’ve had a poor performer on our team for a significant amount of time. This goes beyond annoying/lazy into truly significant and consistent documented issues. HR is monumentally unsupportive and creating barriers to exit this person.

Does anyone have examples of literally what it takes to fire someone?

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u/Specialist-Law-2080 — 9 days ago

Entry Level Hiring Process Insight

Hi everyone! I am job searching for jobs at the state (specifically the laboratory sciences job class), and I've seen a lot or helpful info re tailoring my resume and such which is extremely helpful. I was just wondering if anyone had any insight as to how to stand out as an entry level candidate (2 years post grad, 1yr environmental laboratory, 1yr medtech lab)? I assume there's less internal bidders for a level 1 or 2 role, but I know there's still a lot of very qualified candidates out there.

Thank you so so much, I really appreciate the time invested in helping me :)

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u/eris7 — 9 days ago

State job and drug screening

First of all, sorry if this isn’t allowed here - however I was wondering if someone could go in depth about the laws of hiring and marijuana use now that it’s legalized.

I am applying for a job with the state and there is a drug screening as part of the hiring process.

I do smoke marijuana daily and wondering; 1. Do they test for marijuana and 2. Is it a disqualification for the job.

I have no problem quitting for the job, the last time I did it took me over a month to pass a urine test and I am just worried about the timeline.

Thanks in advance.

Edit: per the requirements in the application it states there will be drug screening for the initial application and per what my friend said “they don’t do randoms unless you crashed a state vehicle or something”.

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u/Great_WhiteSnark — 10 days ago