r/sports_recovery

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A bit of myth busting for us running nerds: when the pain is gone is actually peak reinjury risk

The most dangerous moment in a running injury is apparently the day you feel ready to come back. That's because our cardiovascular system recovers from detraining much faster than our musculoskeletal system.

After a few weeks off, heart and lungs bounce back fairly quickly once you're back to running. However it's much slower for tissues: tendons lose stiffness and resilience during rest, bone mineral density dips. There are even changes to muscle architecture (fascicle length reduces, cross-sectional area shrinks).

That means you feel fit to run at threshold for instance but actually your connective tissues can't safely absorb that. "The engine outpaces the chassis" so to speak.

It goes actually further than that because when you're injured, your nervous system "rewires" your running kinematics to avoid pain. For example with a shorter stride, altered foot strike etc. Those changes become ingrained and tend to stay after the tissues heal and redistribute forces onto joints and muscles that aren't fit for that load.

Research shows this is how athletes enter a reinjury loop where they recover / build fitness /compensate biomechanically / break down / repeat. Many people cycle through this for years.

Objective measurement of tissue readiness and imbalances can be helpful and that's an area where how you feel (no pain, cardio back, energy level...) is not the best indicator. Anyone else been through this? Curious whether people here have found ways to tell when tissues are actually ready vs. when just the pain is gone.

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Do you actually track your recovery or do you just go by feel?

I used to plan my training pretty carefully, weekly mileage, long run progression, speed sessions on the right days but wouldn't do the same for recovery, feeling okay = run, something hurts = day off.

Then I started reading the actual research on how injuries happen and realised that "feeling fine" is not a good recovery metric. In short, there is a fitness-fatigue model that shows your readiness is a balance between accumulated fitness and accumulated fatigue. The tricky part is that cardiovascular fitness rebounds fast but tissue-level repair takes much longer. You can feel ready to go while your tendons and muscles are still mid-rebuild.

On top of that, the research shows that things outside training, sleep quality, nutrition, psychological stress, have a massive effect on how fast your body actually processes training load.

So I'm curious: do you track any of this? Sleep, nutrition, stress? Or do you mostly go by feel and hope for the best? And if you do track, has it actually changed how you train?

I try to create a community where athletes can discuss recovery techinques here r/sports_recovery , I post good comments and useful posts from other communities there. Have a look if that's interesting to you.

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u/Otherwise_Scholar_14 — 6 days ago
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How do you decide when to go back to full intensity after an injury?

For anyone who's dealt with a nagging injury that kept coming back. I'm not talking here of anything serious, more the aches and pains we're all dealing with

I've been reading a lot about the return-to-training problem and apparently, the cardiovascular system recovers from time off way faster than muscles, tendons and joints. So you come back, your "engine" is ready, your conditioning feels decent but the structures absorbing the load aren't there yet.

Also, your body changes your movement patterns while you're injured (compensation to protect the hurt area). This shifts the load onto other joints which can "move" an injury to another part of your body.

How do you gauge readiness beyond workign with a physio? Do you go by how you feel? Do you use any metrics? Coach? Send it and hope for the best?

I try to post her r/sports_recovery to create a bit of a hub where athletes can discuss recovery techniques, have a look if that's interesting to you.

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u/Otherwise_Scholar_14 — 8 days ago
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What actually leads to sports injuries?

There's a concept in sports science called the training-injury prevention paradox (check Dr. Tim Gabbett he published in the British Journal of Sports Medicine).

The main point is that athletes who maintain high chronic training loads are actually better protected against injury than athletes who train in inconsistent spikes and dips. The highest injury risk doesn't come from volume itself, but from a sudden spike in acute load that exceeds what your body has been conditioned to handle.

This makes sense when you look at how tissues adapt. The body remodels along the lines of mechanical stress (this is formalised in something called the mechanostat theory). Training isn't wearing you down, it's actually the stimulus your tissues need to get stronger. The problem starts when you don't give your body enough time and resources to complete that adaptation before you hit it again.

So the real risk factor isn't "training too hard.,", tt's the mismatch between applied stress and recovery capacity. And the big question becomes then "am I recovering appropriately".

Sadly, recovery is not something that can be rushed or hacked. The hierarchy goes, in that order: sleep (where growth hormone pulses drive tissue repair), nutrition (energy availability and protein for myofibrillar synthesis), and stress management (your nervous system doesn't distinguish between interval sessions and work deadlines). Compression boots, ice baths, massages... although they "feel nice" have fairly little impact on tissue recovery.

TL;DR: athletes with consistently high training loads have LOWER injury rates than inconsistent trainers

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u/Otherwise_Scholar_14 — 9 days ago