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why do people think its wrong for us rich to not eat children

CW: satire, child cannibalism

why do all these non-child-eaters think its wrong for us rich people to not eat children? i mean we are literally on top of the food chain, we are here for a reason—we worked for it, our family worked for it and passed down the inheritence, but then you expect us to not eat children and just let all of that hard work go to waste? if you dont eat children but are rich then you are a disgrace to your ancestors who worked up to the top of the food chain just to be able to do this.

the reason we sit on the top of the food chain is because we rich people are the most smartest and strongest people out there—a child's life isn't worth it for us to just not consume, the amount of pleasure it gives us far overweighs the alleged harm

babies dont even think, like at all! they are free riders, all they do is get feeded food and shit all day and cry in rich people's ear, their life holds no value. we've literally eated children for hundreds of years! you really wanna just let it die down because your sensitive ass decided to not eat children??

morality itself is a agreement between parties, babies cant think, they literally cant make a social contract of morality, they are out of the equation completely!

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u/land48n3 — 7 hours ago

Why is the richest vegan ever (Arab named Steve Jobs) never donated his billions to Animal Rights? Stoopid Vegoon thought plants will cure his curable cancer. Least deluded dogmatic vegoon who thought all diseases will be cured by eating plants.

For more context behind this 1997 video, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KviMVCDAm7k

He called himself Vegan, but it seems he was into plant based died (typo but accurate), based on pseudoscience stuff & not for the ethics towards animals

Fun fact: the oldest known vegan is also a Syrian Arab, an Ex-Muslim Atheist philosopher who lived 1000 years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Ma%27arri , just like the richest Vegan who is also Syrian Arab.

u/iamsreeman — 23 hours ago

People who ride horses really do have something with their mind

Edit: I mean have something wrong.

It’s interesting how cultural biases can affect even the self-preservation of some people. A carnist will start whining about “but them vegans unnatural” and “but them lions” and a few minutes later this same person is already with their ass on a horse’s back. It’s like they don’t understand basic carnivore behaviour and think lions ride zebras to see who crosses a finish line first and wear zebra’s skin shoes.

Not only this together with dairy is an example of them only remembering nature whenever it’s convenient,but horse riding is such a reckless action that make you genuinely wonder “what goes on this person’s mind?” Some months ago,I traveled for a baby cousin’s 1st birthday and stayed at my aunt’s country house. It was a fun weekend,people wanted me to pet a relatively small adult pony they had there who probably less than 200lbs,but I refused and ignored the social pressure without thinking twice,I’m not going anywhere near an animal bigger than 80lbs let alone pet them in the head.

They have several horses and my other cousin is the one who rides them not only as a hobby through the week but also in some competitions in the city. Of course,it’s an animal who doesn’t consent to that situation being exploited,as I see people do this,I just keep replaying in my head a billion ways things can go horribly wrong in just a few seconds and these people feel completely safe when they shouldn’t.

The risk vs reward assessement in this situation is just so painfully obvious,it’s not like a magical fairy is offering you 100 omnipotent wishes under the condition that you sit your ass in that animal’s back and survive for a few minutes,again,instead of this fairy scenario,these people do this as a hobby and all of this because they want to feel like Sonic the Heghegog:”YEEEEAAAAAAH!I’M SO TALL RIGHT HERE!GUTTA GU FAST!YEEEEAAAAH!”

If the horse gets startled by something or just takes a single misstep,horrible accidents can happen in just a few seconds. These people casually risk having an awful injury for life,get paralysed or even dying just because they want to feel like Sonic the Hedgehog for a few minutes. Sure,not caring whether you live or die doesn’t prove that you are stupid by itself,but these are people who have so many long term dreams for their future and they casually risk throwing everything away all because they think they are a videogame character.

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u/nonamerandomfatman — 1 day ago

On EATING LIVING BEINGS

Let me start by putting down some data for GLOBAL ANIMALS KILLED FOR FOOD EACH YEAR (approximate)

LAND ANIMALS

Chickens: 78.5 billion

Ducks: 4.2 billion

Pigs: 1.5 billion

Geese: 803 million

Sheep: 704 million

Rabbits & Hares: 604 million

Goats: 564 million

Turkeys: 504 million

Cattle: 305 million

Rodents (other): 69 million

Other Birds: 49 million

Buffaloes: 29 million

Camels: \~5 million

Horses: \~4 million

Donkeys & Mules: <2 million

Deer: Several million

Dogs: No reliable global dataset (bc our so-called values create conflicts) lollll

Cats: No reliable global dataset (bc we find them cute, what a joke)

TOTAL LAND ANIMALS: ≈84–88 billion/year

AQUATIC ANIMALS

Wild Fish: ≈1.1–2.2 trillion/year

Farmed Finfish: ≈80–170 billion/year

Shrimp & Prawns: Hundreds of billions

Crabs: Tens of billions

Cephalopods (Octopus, Squid, Cuttlefish): Billions

TOTAL AQUATIC ANIMALS:

At least 1 trillion/year; likely well above 2 trillion/year when shellfish are included.

SOURCES

https://www.fao.org/faostat/en/#data/QCL

https://www.fao.org/fishery/en

https://www.fao.org/fishery/statistics/software/fishstatj/en

https://ourworldindata.org/how-many-animals-get-slaughtered-every-day

https://fishcount.org.uk/

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aaq0216

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29853680/

https://ourworldindata.org/faqs-environmental-impacts-food

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1711842115

https://www.fao.org/aquastat/

https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg3/

NOW, WHAT TO DO? 5 trillion? 10? 100? Well, we can't really process these numbers, can we? We truly can't even process a normal number like 5000. It feels so big to our brains. Hence, there is no point in talking about the data because that won't change anything for us (the worst animals out there on this planet Earth). Is there any argument which you can give against NOT KILLING INNOCENT LIVING BEINGS? NONE. Our morality survives only until it collides with things such as pleasure, comfort, profit, convenience, habit, identity, tradition, culture, religion, etc. The moment our desires feel threatened, our principles begin collapsing. We call this "normal." We call it "necessary." We inherit horrible customs from our so-called very highly (THE BEST) and respected ancestors and mistake them for truth.

Sometimes I feel like we can't do anything; there's no end to human consumption and greed. But deep down, every one of us knows there is a solution. It's simple. Very simple. I guess the deepest root of violence is neither hunger nor necessity.

IT IS THE EGO.

The ego divides everything into "me" and "not me." It keeps saying that my life matters more than yours (hence I'll kill whomever I wanna kill, and you can't do shit to stop me). My pleasure outweighs your suffering (hence, I'll consume endlessly, and if there's any life coming my way, I'll just chew it alive). My tradition justifies your death (hence kill billions on my HOLY AND MOST SACRED FESTIVALS). The moment the ego creates separation, compassion becomes highly conditional. This is the reason why we still think about races, countries, and their people being superior. The similar reason why we do not keep UGLY LOOKING ANIMALS AS OUR PETS. The dissolution of the ego is not self-destruction. It is the dissolution of the illusion of separateness, aka YOU BEING "THE BEST" AND "ONLY". When the boundary between "self" and "other" begins to fade, compassion is no longer coming from what society has fed you about morality. It becomes the most natural expression of seeing clearly and being aware about YOUR WORLD.

Things are so simple. We are the ones who make up stories for our selfish reasons and keep feeding our egos till they become endless consumption machines which have no switch to turn off until they stop one day suddenly.

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u/Nrbhy — 2 days ago