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We're looking for someone to do this challenging Mountain Birdwatch route in June
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We're looking for someone to do this challenging Mountain Birdwatch route in June

Edited to add: If this sounds awesome to you but you can't do it this year, sign up here to hear about open routes first thing next spring.

Hello hikers! I'm here about a Maine hike, but someone suggested I crosspost here because this is where New England high-elevation hikers hang out.

We are a wildlife research nonprofit based in Vermont that relies on community scientists for a lot of our long-term monitoring. One such program is Mountain Birdwatch, a 25-year-long program where volunteers hike 100 short mountain routes across eastern New York and Northern New England in June to listen for ten bird species. Together, the data points collected by volunteers paint a picture of how bird populations in the Northeastern U.S. mountains are changing.

Mt. Coe's high-elevation route in Maine in the spruce-fir zone is the least surveyed of all 130 routes—just once in the past 16 years. It's our most important data gap to fill, and would provide valuable information for both Mountain Birdwatch and Baxter State Park.

Jason, the principal investigator for Mountain Birdwatch, has all about given up on this route getting covered, and I (VCE's Communications Director Alden) want to prove him wrong.

For almost all of our volunteers, who are mainly birders—not hikers—and heavily skew toward retirement age, this route is outside their capabilities. It is steep and rugged, and a five-hour drive from civilization. There's no backcountry camping allowed on Coe, so you have to stay in one of the park's campgrounds, and then start your 2.5 mile hike (to the first survey point) in the dark, around 4 am. Survey points 1-2 are on the rock slide on the west face of Coe. The slide is navigable (going upwards) in dry conditions only, but not safe to descend, so you have to keep hiking and descend via the North and South Brother Trails (which actually makes a nice loop). Details on the route here.

Now, here is the other complicating factor: the birdsong listening. You cannot use the Merlin app, because that would mess up the data. You must use your ears. If you've never birded before, it is possible to learn the 10 birdsongs in the next three weeks before you go. But also, you need to be the kind of person who, after scaling in the dark (because you have to start listening predawn!) can switch to Zen monk mode and stand still for 20 minutes at a time, listening for birdsong and noting down what you hear. The typical adrenalin junky might get bored. That's Jason's fear, anyway.

We do have one 60-something volunteer who does our second most dangerous route (with a huge camera to boot) who has offered to try to fit this one in as well, but we would rather expand our volunteer base to some new, younger folks and not lean so heavily him. We also have three other routes in northwest Maine that are less risky, but equally remote.

So, do you think you might be the one: a very experienced hiker and bird nerd in the northeast who is down to travel in June? Make sure you can hear the high-pitched song of the Blackpoll warbler, then Email Jason Hill at jhill@vtecostudies.org.

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For science!
Alden, VCE's Communications Director

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u/vt_ecostudies — 13 hours ago
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King Ravine in mid May

I hiked to Mt. Adam’s via Lowe’s store thru King Ravine trail last weekend with my friend and I gotta tell that it was really terrifying and awesome at the same time. My quads and my legs still hurt and I cannot climb up stairs now lol but it totally worth it. We were so scared while climbing up the rocks. We were alone in the whole trail until airline so it was a little bit scary. It was all mud in Lowes path and there were still snows on some of the rocks in king ravine trail. It was dangerous at certain points. Unlike my friend, I love this hike lol

u/Zealousideal-Run1914 — 23 hours ago
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Isolation 5/18-5/19

This week I backpacked mount isolation. After hiking it nineteen times isolation is still my favorite mountain. I went up glen boulder, Down Davis path, and out isolation trail and Rocky branch. I stayed at a signed tentsite and watched the sunset AND sunrise! Both were amazing. The glen boulder trail still had a lot of snow above the spring spur. The Davis path did too. I would give that route more time to melt. Isolation trail and rocky branch were wet and muddy like usual. I didn’t take any of the popular bushwhacks. The uppermost water crossing on isolation trail was rock hoppable. The other crossings I bypassed by following herd paths. Otherwise I probably would have waded through in water shoes. I saw a rabbit. There was only one other group out.

u/mr0bungle — 1 day ago
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Isolation this weekend?

Aiming to go for Isolation this weekend via ascent up Glen Boulder all the way up to Boot Spur, then descend Davis Path over to bag Isolation before descending down Rocky Branch with a car spot.

Question is, Am I a moron for wanting to descend Rocky Branch in Spring? And will the trail still be monorailed?

For context I’ll be hiking with two companions who are new to hiking the Whites and are comfortable up to 4k vert. They’re aware this will push their vert limits and fine with that. They’ve climbed Flume via the slide, Lincoln and Lafayette in one go, Garfield, and Whiteface/Pway via the Blueberry Ledge. Pic from Franconia Ridge for attention

u/joedoe6951 — 1 day ago
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Chocorua 5/16/26

I'm arguing that Mt Chocorua is the best view OF the whites. Maybe not the best view IN the whites, but WOW, what a fun mountain.

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u/contact6high9 — 1 day ago
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Memorial Day weekend!

Anyone else pouring over maps to pick a place for the long weekend? I have narrowed my choices to three areas. The major part of my plan is to put on my pack and walk as far as my feet can carry my old fat ass 😆. And work out the rest of the weekend from there. I love the peaks but I have been there and done that, and to the younger peak baggers- there is more to the mountain than the peak ( best advice I ever got). If I bump in to you I’ll have a small amount of medicinal whiskey waiting for ya. And most importantly HANG YOUR DAM FOOD AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT SMELLS!!! A fed bear will be a dead bear. If my tired old fat ass can do it so can you!!! Stay safe and shhhh you’re not the only people out there (you know who I’m talking to).

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u/Difficult-Brain2564 — 1 day ago
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Zealand to Galehead...or Galehead to Zealand

Doing a hut to hut this fall and we have the option to do this route in either direction...any reason to avoid one direction or the other? Sometimes routes are just better one way over the other and I'm wondering if anyone has any strong opinions!

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u/PantalonesdeSony — 1 day ago
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Lafayette Place Campground in mid June

What nighttime temps/conditions should I expect car camping here? Done backcountry camping high up near summits where it gets cold even in summer but never a valley typa deal like this. Should I expect a similar coolness enough for a sleeping bag situation or to be sweaty/need a portable fan situation?

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u/ill_be_late_4_that — 2 days ago
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Favorite *remote* water spots (waterfall, pool), the further the better

Lots of posts about popular sites near a trailhead, or at least a modest walk. But...

Do folks have river spots/waterfalls/swimming holes that are completely inconvenient to get to? Like miles and miles of walking?

Points for being far from other attractive goals (e.g. 4K summits) and relatively private.

For an upcoming hike with the spouse, I'm hoping the Dry River Trail might offer such locations.

Edit: *Just* got the new AMC White Mountain Guide in the mail, and have identified a waterfall many miles in, with an "obscure" side trail that leads to an "interesting" pothole, possibly with a view. Mission accomplished.

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u/Entire-Oil9595 — 3 days ago
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Welch and Dickey yesterday

Beautiful day at one of my favorite hikes

u/Ok-Tap7886 — 3 days ago
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Gear recommendations or essential items for a July climb up Mt. Washington via the lions head trail.

Im pretty new to hiking and backpacking but I’ve done a few over night trips and a bunch of day hikes. I have a decent amount of gear I have acquired already but just wanted to see what you guys would bring up the mountain with you. I’ll be car camping at a site near by so sleep systems are not necessary.

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u/kkaasler — 3 days ago
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Franconia Ridge from Lonesome Lake 7/19/25

u/absare — 5 days ago
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First time foreigner

Hey there, I'll be traveling to the US in June for the first time and have decided to dedicate 3 days for white mountains towards the end of june, although first day will be about setting up as I'll be arriving late, so really it's 2 days of hiking. I have been reading quite a bit on the area, yet I am struggling to decide, as I don't personally know anyone who's been in this area. I figured from the stuff that I've been reading that I am better off doing the franconia ridge rather than mt washington, as I am not an experienced solo hiker, nevermind in the US, but what are your best recommendations? I am quite fit so i do not mind a challenge, but I am really open to anything. Also i am a bit flexible with adding an extra day if you think it's necessary. Appreciate any help!

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u/dankloser21 — 5 days ago
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Watch your steps out there

Mt. Monadnock, Cascade Link. Tons of them scurrying around this weekend. Please watch your steps!

u/ConsistentAffect9723 — 5 days ago
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Car Accessible Tent Site Advice

We are road tripping from Kentucky this summer (June or July camping along the way) and plan to spend the majority of our time in the White Mountains car camping with two kids. We’re looking for advice on car-accessible tent camping sites that aren’t too buggy, crowded, and that can serve as a great base camp for day trip hikes.

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u/doublej606 — 4 days ago
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Owls head - Cherry mountain

Has anyone hiked up there lately? How's the trails? Was thinking of hiking both Mount Martha and Owls head.

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u/Dull_Broccoli1637 — 4 days ago