Intuition Comes From Our Perception of Idea Shapes

I had posted this earlier this morning and deleted it so I could smooth it out a bit. I do this sometimes as I review my posts when I realize they may not land the way I want them to…

I had three competing essays going on in my mind this morning:

  • Our Ignorance Keeps Us Safe
  • Idea Shapes & Intuition
  • Reading Seth is Not Enough

And so I searched the Seth corpus for “idea shape” and I did not find what I was looking for.

Instead, it found me.

Let’s look at what I found:


Session 15

Pretend that you not only understood your cat’s concept of time to some degree, but could also experience his sense of time through the cat itself. In doing this you would in no way bother, inhibit or annoy the cat. He would not be aware of your presence and in no way could this be represented as any sort of an invasion.

Imagine further that you actually experienced the feeling of such a furry coat, and all the other feline equipment from the inside. Purely as a spectator this would loosely represent an analogy to my traveling to other planes. It follows that I could not travel to higher planes than my own, where more acute senses than mine would instantly perceive me. This sort of thing does not as a rule go on in your plane. Even with your limited senses you would perceive my presence, though my plane is further developed than yours.

So you see that the laws operate in such a manner that we are more or less kept in our place. Controls are applied. This subject will come up again and I will go into it more deeply. You have also seen that your cat can sense me to some extent when I am in his environment, so we do not get away with much. On many planes we are fully visible to others on that plane. To some we are invisible, and to us some are invisible.

(“Is Seth going to say anything about his form?”)

As I have mentioned earlier the senses change according to the plane of materialization. If you are speaking about my present form, I can be many forms. That is, within limits I can change my form, but in doing so I do not actually change my form so much as I choose to become part of something else.

My incipient form is a man’s form, if this is what you want to know, but it is not materialized in the same fashion as yours, that is as your form, and I can dematerialize it whenever I choose.

It is not however at all physical in your terms… And so here I suppose we will run into a block. The physical human form is extremely important to all entities, and they retain its idea shape for a long while. Again I will have more to say about the idea shape, which is somewhat like the physical genes and the blueprint, only on a different manifestation level. I believe, though I am not positive, that this human idea shape vanishes at some point and changes into another that is somehow more fitting and ideal. The entity in itself may only be a part of something else.


Do you see what just happened?

My exploration of “idea shape” led DIRECTLY to the adjoining topic “Our Ignorance Keeps Us Safe”.

That’s crazy. I’ve never seen this before and it was unusually “on the nose” with this morning’s essay. I swear sometimes that Seth is speaking directly to me from 1964. And this essay also snapped into place with yesterday’s essay on consciousness projection, which was not to many people’s liking but none-the-less I believe it to be 100% true.

I no longer read the Seth material in order. I did that a long time ago. Instead, I go with my gut and search my database of sessions and look for strange fish that swim to the surface.

If I ever become successful enough, I will buy out the Seth material and release it for free for everyone to read at their leisure and release my database tool for everyone to use. But until that time, we continue to work within the copyright restrictions that Rob left for us to deal with, but I digress…


Let’s unpack the concept of an “idea shape”, for I know that as I unravel this concept into words you will see what I’m talking about.

What is intuition exactly?

I don’t even know what “string” to pull on to unpack this for you, for it is clear in my mind but I have to convert it into words so that you can see it.

Intuition is simply a sense by you of an idea shape.

That is exactly what it is.

And as you grab hold of this idea shape, it usually reveals itself as a solitary thought, but in this morning’s case, it revealed itself as 3 thoughts.

Think of this idea shape as an invisible ball. Yes, this is a good analogy.

You cannot see this ball, but you can sense it. And it usually reveals itself through a single idea. You can only see one tiny point of it as it brushes against your consciousness. And that one point is a thought. Yet in this case, this “idea shape”, this “ball” rolled across my consciousness like a ball rolling across the floor. And everywhere it touched, I got another thought.

And so in this case, this “idea shape” that I felt while laying in bed produced three disjointed thoughts, but I could feel the “thickness” of the idea shape and that feeling of the entirety of the “idea shape” is exactly what intuition is.

And because I am practiced in writing, I can explore this idea shape by starting from any of those three threads and work my way inwards into the heart of this idea shape.

You can see quite clearly that in the session snippet that I provided that the term “idea shape” led directly to the concept that we are “kept in place by our level of development”, only Seth is better at explaining this than I am, but I do provide a unique perspective, so maybe in some way I add to his idea shape and breathe new life into it..

Now, lets turn to the idea that “Reading Seth is Not Enough”.

You MUST engage with the material if you want to understand it “in your bones.” Simply reading the words passively is not going to cut it. And yes, I am prickly, because I don’t hold back. You must put his ideas into action. You must hold his ideas in your mind and explore what new, personal, thoughts come to the surface. This is your consciousness interacting with his idea shapes which have been leveled out into words so that you can understand them.

And his words do not fully express his idea shapes but only explore certain avenues within them.

Yesterday I spoke of Seth’s experience and consciousness projection and clearly that upset folks because there was hardly any upvotes on it. And I’m not asking you to upvote it in retrospect, but I really do try to speak truth as clearly as I see it and we are not ready for full blown consciousness projection yet.

And our ignorance of the wider universe of possibility keeps us reigned in until we sort ourselves out.

My intuition of it is that we are learning, that we are children, that we are fledgling egotistical consciousnesses and we think we understand how things work as adults, but I don’t think we have a clue of what is really going on in the universe.

Sometimes when you take your child to a public performance, they cry out and disturb those around them, for the child does not know the broader environment that they dwell within, and I don’t blame them, but as adults in the audience, we can hear the cries of that child, and hopefully many of us know what it is like to be a parent and we smile knowing what that child’s parent thinks. I never get upset at a crying child because I’ve been there and I just wait for things to sort themselves out. And if you reread the snippet I provided, this is exactly what Seth is talking about from another perspective.

We are landlocked on Earth for a good reason. We are NEVER getting off this planet through physical means. That is a fantasy and it is for our own good, for we are like children in a larger performance and the other adults of this universe can see us easily as we stumble through inner reality, trying out the wings of consciousness projection for the first time.

And so consciousness projection is indeed the next evolution in our species, but once we begin to understand it, we will also come to recognize just how much we don’t know. And we will discover that we need to stay “close to home” until we become more certain of our identity so that we can hold our own in the face of projecting our consciousness into others, whether they are past lives, future lives, probable lives, or beings within inner reality.

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u/3rdfoundation — 11 days ago

Your Inner Self Sees You Across All of Your Life Simultaneously

SESSION 36: Wednesday, March 18, 1964 (early 1)

Your clock time as you know is camouflage, and does not exist as far as the inner ego is concerned. This certainly should not be strange to you, since you know that even your present personalities can to some extent escape from clock time through the use of psychological time. I have said that there is no time without barriers. The inner ego is aware of fewer barriers and therefore is not bound by time to the degree that the outer ego is bound.

Tuesday does not exist to the inner ego. Your outer ego is now experiencing the camouflage time year of 1964. This simply does not exist to the inner ego, therefore the inner ego is effortlessly aware of any choices or decisions that you may make freely in say 1970. It does not affect your choice. It has absolutely nothing to do with whatever future choice you may make. It is aware of such future choices simply because the camouflage future does not exist for it.


I spent this morning sifting through the first sessions that discuss “psychological time” trying to pin Seth down on it and he ducks and dodges like he is Neo in the Matrix. It is almost as if he doesn’t want to clearly describe it and it frustrates me. He thinks he is being crystal clear in its description. He is not, and it befuddles me that he is not clearer on this point.

The basic idea is that psychological time allows you to experience many interior events that would not normally fit into clock time, but that is VERY lacking in specificity. You can do better than that Seth.

And then I came across the last paragraph in the session snippet above about how the inner self doesn’t experience clock time.

I think this is a clear example of where I diverge from Seth’s approach. Now, who the hell am I to question the methods of a being that is FAR more intelligent that I am, but none-the-less, I have to deal with clock time and I think there is a better approach to discussing psychological time than meandering all over the fucking place. I realize these are “early sessions” and Seth spends an inordinate amount of time talking about Jane and Rob’s lives but it often leads him down side roads that are mostly irrelevant.

From my perspective, the starting point for discussing psychological time is to discuss the nature of time itself and how that differs from psychological time, for if you don’t start there, you end up with what we see in the early sessions.

Consciousness, as Seth says in a prior session, is by design a barrier to experience. Consciousness must take “time” in whatever form that takes to understand what it perceives. THAT is what time is.

But yet, clock time is artificial to the inner self. The inner self looks at our reincarnational existence and can see all of our choices across our life simultaneously. And these choices across all of time are not frozen, but continue to evolve. It is like the inner self is watching a wheel spin where each atom of the wheel is a moment of our life and the inner self sees the coordinated movement of all atoms within its larger perspective as simply a wheel.

The inner self does not “pour” through each of our moments in time to perceive them, but instead can see them all at once as they continue to evolve. This is similar to how we see objects. Objects are collections of parts and we could certainly describe a chair as something with 4 legs, a back, a cushion, the material it is built from or we could just forget all of that and call it a chair, for by describing it by all of its parts instead of the larger identity of the chair, we lose something in the process.

And so the inner self can see us across all of time as a singular “4D” object, where each atom within that object is one moment in our camouflage time. And the inner self does indeed experience their own version of time, but that time operates at a “higher” level than ours. This is what Seth calls psychological time. That, IMHO, is a better way to frame psychological time.

Psychological time is not some “mystical thing” that happens to you when you relax. That is some BULLSHIT and that explanation leaves a LOT to be desired. Right? And Seth goes on and on about talking about psychological time without providing a clear explanation. Seriously Seth, WTF?

But, having said all of that, the inner self is responsible for the production of your physical body, your environment AND your experience of time. And if it is capable of such a fantastical production, why is it that it can’t experience our camouflage time. That is a conundrum that I haven’t been able to sort out… yet. For again, Seth says that if we don’t get our shit together as a species, one possible outcome would be for the inner self to take the reigns so-to-speak and he says that would not go well since the inner self is not equipped to operate at that level. But WTF? If it can make it, certainly it can also operate within it.

Take the VR game I was working on. I was 100% responsible for the production of that environment. The objects on the screen, the tools the player uses, the flow of time and organization of space. And I can also put on my VR headset and step into that world and operate within it.

This remains one of the great mysteries to me: why can’t the inner self operate within the world it has created? It makes little sense to me.

Again, I wish I could compile a list of questions and visit Jane and have a nice chat. But that’s not going to happen. So instead, I have to ask myself those questions and write down the answers that come to mind and use those as lines of research via my Seth database tool. And then I can post these “answers” (sometimes rants) that likely come from my inner self here for your review.

That’s all I’ve got.

And I often wonder, inner self, why don’t you take me on a five minute tour and show me first hand how you see the world so that I can in turn explain to others what I see… but for whatever reason, the inner self remains silent for all of us on this planet, operating in the background, making us all do the heavy lifting of sorting all this shit out.

The fact that Seth is disappointed that our civilization fails to recognize that the inner self exists when it doesn’t show itself in our waking lives is a bit much TBH.

And sometimes I wonder if I’m crazy for even believing an inner self exists since there is exactly ZERO proof that they do, but yet I find myself often talking to them in my quiet moments, and this would look like to the average Joe on this planet that I have indeed lost my marbles.

This is the challenge we all face as we sift through Seth’s words. And I know Jane continued to struggle with this until her dying day.

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u/3rdfoundation — 17 days ago

The Rise of AI Seth Content

SESSION 83: Monday, August 31, 1964 (early 2)

I will not keep you much longer.

I wanted to state that whatever personal neuroses you both have, and everyone has some, you are certainly no exception, these because of the fluidity and flexibility of your subconscious makeups, have been rather efficiently used through sublimation in your own creative activities. It is for this reason that our progress has been smooth, and yet steady. Nor was, nor should, my well-meaning suggestion be taken, as Ruburt at least once mentioned, as any sort of temptation to him to retreat from the outer world.

I had also intended, if the suggestion were followed, to add certain suggestions having to do with the necessity of seeing others, and even of some aggressive activities, so to speak, which would have effectively counteracted any possible tendency for withdrawal on his part.

You will never find me advocating a withdrawal from the outer world, advocating prejudice of any kind, advocating any activities that will be in any way injurious to health, or advocating a fanaticism, ever, on the part of the sessions themselves.

Commitment yes, fanatic commitment no. I certainly advocate that the body of the material be made available to the public, and indeed its purpose is to help mankind understand himself, so that he may understand the world which mirrors his inner reality.

I am not and never will, set Ruburt up or you up, Joseph, as any kind of superior beings, sacred in any way that all men and women are not sacred. If you and Ruburt have certain abilities to perceive, receive, translate and communicate that which some others cannot, many also have other abilities that neither of you do have.

I will never on the other hand insist upon a groveling humility, a feeling of uselessness, for upon such a false and inadequate conception of self is based the most unfortunate sort of exterior posturing. I insist upon an honest, humble and proud acceptance of your own relationship with the universe, and an acceptance of your responsibility in it.


I am of the “old guard” so-to-speak. I’ve been reading Seth and Jane for close to forty years and in my college days I was somewhat zealous in my appraisal of the Seth Material, for when I first read it after reading a bunch of other bullshit (and there is a lot of bullshit out there) I was like “this is it!”.

And I soon discovered nobody else shared my enthusiasm.

At first I thought I was ready for all kinds of mental adventures, but things didn’t go as planned, and in the end, I’m probably more “well rounded” because of it, for I was not ready for the exotic corners of the Seth material and I suspect my inner self knew that. And so instead I lived a “normal” life as a full-time software engineer, husband, and father of two. And Seth required Jane and Rob to be well rounded too, as illustrated in the session snippet above.

Seth’s approach to teaching is very professional and that is part of its appeal to me, for if he was too “woo-woo” or “new age”, it would have been a turn off. He reminds me of those well respected, but very harsh teachers you may have come across in college. He knows his shit very well and he expects you to pay attention to what he has to say.

Nowadays, I see the Seth material as a body of philosophy and knowledge that augments my everyday “mundane” activity. I obviously spend more time with it than most, writing essays and answering questions, but it is not the focus of my life.


Now, this video was just posted here, was reported to me and I had to remove it and I’m still trying to wrap my head around it, and no, I’m not going to wade through all of that nonsense: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0IHsEvRuRo

That video is over an hour, was very likely AI generated, has 124,000 views and 402 comments on it, many praising it and the 3 youtube channels that are responsible for it have over 400,000 subscribers. And that video is pile of BS. It feature’s Jane’s face on the thumbnail and has AI speaking in her voice and I find that to be irresponsible.

I do have a rule here about no "AI content" and I see I need to expand that rule (a second time) to include links to videos or anything that is AI adjacent. That has no place here.

Ironically, I don’t think many people here would fall for the BS in that video for right out of the gate it speaks in a way that is contrary to Jane and Seth’s teachings.

Anyway… Just be careful out there.

AI is making a mess out of everything and it is getting harder and harder to tell what is real and what is made up, but you’ll always get the skinny from me when it comes to the Seth material. I have internalized it too well to be fooled by videos like that.

Be discerning in what you allow into your thoughts and beliefs. Do not accept everything just because it comes in the wrapper of “Jane Roberts” or “Seth” or any non-physical teachings. You have an inner voice that guides you. Listen carefully to that voice and turn away from teachings that don’t sit well with you.

u/3rdfoundation — 19 days ago

The Mass Mind

SESSION 815: Saturday, December 17, 1977 (mass events)

Television interacts with your lives, but it does not cause your lives. It does not cause the events that it depicts. With your great belief in technology, it often seems to many people that television causes violence, for example, or that it causes a love of overmaterial-ism, or that it causes "loose morals." Television reflects. In a manner of speaking it does not even distort, though it may reflect distortions.

The writers and actors of television dramas are attuned to the "mass mind." They are not leaders or followers. They are creative reflectors, acutely aware of the overall, generalized emotional and psychic patterns of the age.

SESSION 845: Monday, April 2, 1979 (mass events)

Now your TV dramas, again, systematically show your old Frankenstein movies just when your scientists are contemplating all kinds of experiments supposed to bring forth life. Hardly a coincidence, for the mass minds of the people are able to make certain joint statements, and those statements are heard.

SESSION: Monday, February 9, 1981 (personal 6)

He (Ruburt) thinks that that background and temperament should no longer apply. That is, if once he disliked crowds, a new purpose and understanding should let him rise above such nonsense—but there has always been a kind of singularity there (long pause) —a characteristic need to go his own way. This does not mean that he has no need for expression . Small groups are one thing, large ones something else. The private context was the home, when you had classes. He likes encounters with other people, naturally, but he does not like crowds nor speaking to a kind of mass mind, directly encountered.


There is a collective “mental consensus” of all people on the planet and this is what Seth refers to as the “Mass Mind”. This is not the future potential of mankind but the current “prevailing beliefs of the time”.

And when you write a story, you can sometimes sense this mass opinion. You can ask yourself what the masses would think and you will get an answer.

That doesn’t mean you should write for the masses, for you should always write about what “turns your crank” so-to-speak, to speak “truth” as Margaret Atwood would say, but understanding the feeling of their yearning can be helpful.

And we can see that mass opinion reflected back to us in our currently popular books, television series, movies and music.

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u/3rdfoundation — 19 days ago

Creative Abilities Allow Us To Contact Inner Reality

SESSION 881: Tuesday, September 25, 1979 (value fulfill 1)

It is one thing, for example, for a physical writer to produce a manuscript—and even that kind of creativity involves vast and hidden psychological maneuvers that never appear in the manuscript itself.

So far, however, physically there is only the page of paper upon which Robert Butts is writing down these words I speak. Someday, in terms of time, there will be a thick book. Although the manuscript does not yet exist in a physical book, the book itself, the ideas and words, are in the most important fashions quite real now.

Your creative abilities do not simply allow you to paint pictures, to tell or write stories, to create sculpture or architecture. They do not simply provide you with a basis for your religions, sciences, and civilizations. They are your contact with the source of existence itself.

Give us a moment...


Pulled out a session from Sept 25th.

I think it’s cool to think this session was happening today in 1979.

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u/3rdfoundation — 20 days ago

Exercise: Imagining Today as Fully as Possible

SESSION 591: Wednesday, August 11, 1971 (seth speaks)

I would like to introduce you to yourself.

You will not find yourself by running from teacher to teacher, from book to book. You will not meet yourself through following any particular specialized method of meditation. Only by looking quietly within the self that you know can your own reality be experienced, with those connections that exist between the present or immediate self and the inner identity that is multidimensional.

There must be a willingness, an acquiescence, a desire. If you do not take the time to examine your own subjective states, then you cannot complain if so many answers seem to elude you. You cannot throw the burden of proof upon another, or expect a man or teacher to prove to you the validity of your own existence. Such a procedure is bound to lead you into one subjective trap after another.

As you sit reading this book, the doorways within are open. You have only to experience the moment as you know it as fully as possible — as it exists physically within the room, or outside in the streets of the city in which you live. Imagine the experience present in one moment of time over the globe, then try to appreciate the subjective experience of your own that exists in the moment and yet escapes it — and this multiplied by each living individual.

This exercise alone will open your perceptions, increase your awareness and automatically expand your appreciation of your own nature.


Seth is very capable and if we glimpsed the scope of his knowledge and capability I suspect we would feel dwarfed by it, just as Seven is overwhelmed by Cyprus’s true existence that she reveals to him off and on throughout the trilogy.

And Seth’s knowledge is “from the future” and lays the groundwork for the next evolution in mankind. And yes, this sounds like religious or cult dogma, but none-the-less it is true.

And many of his exercises simply boil down to using our imagination, just like this one. How far can you throw your imagination.

How far can you stretch your mind into the past? What is your earliest memory? Bring it up and examine it.

How far can you stretch your mind into the future? What is the greatest aspiration for yourself and mankind? What does that look like?

How far can you stretch your mind across the present? Who are you really? What are each of your friends doing today? What is the world like in every place you’ve ever visited? Can you see yourself in those places? Can you bring up more than one at the same time?

And who could have you been if you’d made different choices? Each choice branches to a new timeline.

This list of questions arose naturally as I considered time and probability.

And we could make up new ones if we like. Any exercise that involves the imagination is fair game, for that is THE muscle Seth is asking us to develop.

Seth doesn’t “project his consciousness” towards Jane when they channel. He IMAGINES himself there.

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u/3rdfoundation — 23 days ago

A Rare Glimpse Into Seth’s Free TIme

SESSION 916: Wednesday, May 14, 1980 (val fulfill 2)

Your imaginations help you bring elements of that inner implied universe into actuality. Your imaginations obviously are not limited by time. You can imagine past and future events. Your imaginations have always helped you form your civilizations, your arts and your sciences, and when they are united with your reasoning processes they can bring you knowledge about the universe and your places in it that you can receive in no other fashion.

End of dictation.

("What are you going to do for the rest of the evening?")

I am going to refresh myself by diving into some new concepts, for there are new concepts for me also, of course, and I dive into them from many positions all the time as well.

A fond good evening.

("Thank you, Seth. The same to you. Goodnight.")


A little gem tucked in there at the end by Rob casually asking about what Seth’s up to. These are the gems I search for.

One of the hardest things to wrap my head around is what is going on with Seth in-between sessions. Whatever his experience is, it is flowing alongside our experience of time. Both his world and our world are both simultaneously emerging out of “now” and I just don’t understand why he doesn’t address this “elephant in the room”. He constantly avoids diving into this topic. Is it taboo? Would it give something away? He certainly can’t believe it is beyond our comprehension if he takes the time to discuss All That Is which is much more complex.

I know, for instance, that before Jane was ready to channel, she fell in trance and Seth was alerted to it and stepped in and stopped it. So clearly, even though he can see the past, present and future of everyone in a room, he does not exist independent of our time. It isn’t like our world exists like a snow globe on the shelf that is a “frozen moment in the past” that he can pick up whenever he chooses and return to where he left off. Instead, just as our life progresses, his life also progresses in parallel and when he returns to Jane and Rob for another session, “time” has elapsed for him as well.

Now, Seth’s experience is much more complicated than just running off and doing more research on a topic. He is in contact with many versions of our world that blossomed out from his initial session with Jane and Rob. And he is able to easily keep track of the multitude of probable realities and the conversations he has with each of them, not unlike we are each able to keep track of what our friends are up to and we remember the conversational history with each of them and know what some friends know and what others do not.

Again, we are training ourselves to become more and more aware and in whatever realm we find ourselves, I believe an expanded awareness and memory of events is a constant and common thread between them all.

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u/3rdfoundation — 24 days ago

The “Problem” with Inner Senses Development

Two essays in one day? I am behind in editing my book and clearly I’m stalling this morning :)

Just wrote a piece of the greatness of yourself and thought I’d follow up with a piece on the inner senses.

Why is it that I haven’t developed the inner senses? I’m passionate about it and I want it, yet I do not have it.

I’m great at writing software (my area of expertise so-to-speak) and at least decent at writing but I suck at the inner senses, and why is that?

I’ll tell you why…

Because you can’t work it like a profession.

Let’s return to learning how to play the violin. You can hear your progress as you get better. You have something tangible as a result of your work and rarely do you get worse. And, there are teachers that have mastered it and they can help you get better and show you your weaknesses and strengths.

Let’s be brutally honest: We don’t have that right now with the inner senses.

NOBODY can use them effectively, and so there is no teacher available to help to give pointers and guidance. And when you sit down and meditate and have visions, they are vapors at best and often times meditation results in NO visions or insights and so after a half hour of practice you have NOTHING to show for your efforts even if you had a week of many visions and then you may go a week with no visions. And after months of that BS day in and day out I worried that I was wasting my time and would reach the end of my days with nothing to show for my efforts, and so I’ve turned my attention to writing instead.

This is why I made an “unhinged” plea for a speaker to show themselves months ago, for I know that they exist today and are likely perusing this forum on occasion for I am unaware of any other Seth venue with this degree of participation and visibility. We need a living teacher to help us develop the inner senses, but the time grows nigh, and it appears nobody is going to help us and so we have to help ourselves.

I wish I had a Seth in my corner I could ask advice and get feedback like Jane and Rob got, but that isn’t going to happen for we are all now on the path of the “lone wanderer achievement”.

All I can do is rely on my intuition, thoughts and motivations. That’s all I’ve got. And I’ve been genuinely surprised by what writing has revealed for I have discovered it is indeed like being an entity and I say it again and again to the point of being very annoying about it. And so I wonder, is writing laying the foundation of being an entity? Is it a back door into what I want? Only “time” will tell.

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u/3rdfoundation — 25 days ago

The Greatness Within You

SESSION 870: Wednesday, August 1, 1979 (mass events)

Your impulses are your closest communication with your inner self, because in the waking state they are the spontaneous urg-ings toward action, rising from that deep inner knowledge of yourself that you have in dreams. (Intently:) You were born because you had the impulse to be. The universe exists because it had the impulse to be.

You have every right to question your impulses, to choose among them, to assess them, but you must be aware of them, acknowledge their existence, for they will lead you to your own true nature.

Your impulses reflect the basic impulse of your life. Even if they appear contradictory at any given time, overall they will be seen to form constructive patterns toward action that point more clearly towards your own clear path for fulfillment and development.

Natural attributes show themselves quite clearly in early childhood, for example, when you are allowed greater freedom to do what you want to do. As children, some people love to work with words, some with images, some with objects. Some show great ability in dealing with their contemporaries, while others naturally lean toward solitude and private meditations. Look back toward the impulsive behavior of your childhood, toward those activities that mostly pleased you.

If you painted pictures, this does not mean that you necessarily should be an artist. Only you know the strength of those impulses — but if they are intense and consistent, then pursue them. If you end up simply painting as a hobby, that will still enrich your life and understanding. If your impulses lead you toward relationships with others, then do not let fears of unworthiness stand in your way. It is very important that you express your idealism actively, to whatever extent you can, for this increases your sense of worth and power.

Many people want to change the world for the better, but that ideal seems so awe-inspiring that they think they can make no headway unless they perform some great acts of daring or heroism, or envision themselves in some political or religious place of power, or promote an uprising or rebellion. The ideal seems so remote and unreachable that, again, sometimes any means, however reprehensible, eventually can seem justified. To change the world for the better, you must begin by changing your own life. There is no other way.


This is an unusual session. I’m not used to Seth tempering our expectations of our potential. I suspect there are many facets of Seth’s personality and the Seth that he pulled out of his “bank of personalities” was feeling like he needed to clarify that not everyone needs to reach for the heights of greatness—that a normal life with mundane challenges is enough for most people in the 21st century play we are all acting within.

We are each at different places in our development and there is no penultimate state where you’ve mastered it all, although as I type these words, a part of me thinks that a person could theoretically master everything Earth has to offer if that was their primary goal in life and I suspect that would lead to being someone like Cyprus from Oversoul Seven, but that is likely a very rare outlier and would require tens of thousands of lifetimes to achieve. This is exactly like a video game where most people just play it through from front to back and move on while others spend years trying to get all the achievements, and for instance in World of Warcraft, that is a herculean task.

But I digress…

I know people that have reached the pinnacle of their profession. I will use my daughter’s violin teacher as an example. He is high up in the Minnesota Orchestra and this man was laser beam focused on the violin. He practiced 6 hours a day, got a private tutor he had to ride a train for an hour to take lessons from, was first chair at Julliard for two years, runs his own studio and is an all around amazing person. Really top tier.

And so if you want to be great, you’ve got to put in the time. And greatness often requires a lifelong intense commitment to achieve it. And lets be honest, not many of us want to do that. But I do believe that if you want to be great at something and love it, you will find a way to achieve it.

I’ll give you another example: Spawn comic. Todd McFarlane was not an artist and he knew he sucked at drawing, but he put in the time. A lot of time. And it paid off for him but his dedication was unwaivering.

I think, in this session, Seth is trying to make us all feel okay with where we are, and this is fine, but if you love something and you want to be great at it, you can do it. But if you’re not good at anything or don’t know what you want out of life, that’s also okay, and many more people fall into later category versus the former.

I got “lucky” in this life. I loved video games and I wanted to make them. But when I got out of college with a programming degree, I needed a job and so I shifted to business software. And I turned my attention to it to do the best that I could and I found I had a talent for it. And that served me very well.

Because I’ve been in software for many years, I know what greatness looks like with software. I’ve worked with some incredibly talented developers and I can tell you that each of those people are passionate about the craft. If they didn’t have to worry about money, they’d still work on software and hardware projects because it is “in their bones.” And when I hired people, I looked for this quality above all others. It isn’t a quality you can ask directly about, you have to tease it out of the interview candidate through a series of questions and simple, practical tests. I don’t make candidates take tests to show them I’m smarter than them. I have candidates take tests to show both their competence and their passion in software.

And so what is it that is “in your bones”? And if you don’t know, look back in your life at what brought you joy and you were effortlessly good at… that is what you should pursue.

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u/3rdfoundation — 25 days ago

True Play is Work

Seth CD 23

If you know how to play, you do not need to know how to work, but if you know how to play, then you understand what play is, and you know it is not chaos. You know that games have rules. You know you make the games, and, therefore, you make the rules. And you can, like a grasshopper, or like a child playing hopscotch, skip from square to square.

For the only work is done in play. The only real work is done in play, and if you realize that, all “work” is done and you do it.

Rules are made to be made, to be followed and broken. Rules are made to be rules. When you need them you make them. When you want a new set, you find a new set, but always you should follow your own inner dictates.

No rules ultimately--ultimately--ultimately are ever justified in greater terms. In other terms, they are excellent. Lambs, you are told, leap over things, and when you are falling asleep, if you think of lambs leaping fences, you will fall to sleep quicker. The more blindly you follow rules, the faster you fall asleep, in these terms. The more you examine the rules, or measure yourself against them, or deal with them, or encounter them, or explore them, or play with them, the more alive and awake you become.

SESSION 518: Wednesday, March 18, 1970 (Seth Speaks)

We are beginning to learn the creative joy of play. I believe, for example, that all creativity and consciousness is born in the quality of play, as opposed to work, in the quickened intuitional spontaneity that I see as a constant through all my own existences, and in the experience of those I know.

I communicate with your dimension, for example, not by willing myself to your level of reality, but by imagining myself there. All of my deaths would have been adventures had I realized what I know now. On the one hand you take life too seriously, and on the other, you do not take playful existence seriously enough.

We enjoy a sense of play that is highly spontaneous, and yet I suppose you would call it responsible play. Certainly it is creative play. We play, for example, with the mobility of our consciousness, seeing how “far” one can send it. We are constantly surprised at the products of our own consciousness, of the dimensions of reality through which we can hopscotch. It might seem that we use our consciousness idly in such play, and yet again, the pathways we make continue to exist and can be used by others. We leave messages to any who come by, mental signposts.


I don’t think you can be great at something unless you enjoy what you are doing. You can be good at it, but if you only do it to pay the bills, and you would never want to do it if that wasn’t the case, then you will never have the intrinsic drive to better yourself beyond a certain point.

But if you do something you enjoy, you are always evaluating what you produce and through that self-analysis you polish your skill. That self-evaluation may lead to reading a book on the topic or watching a video or trying out a new technique. This is “play” in action, and when you listen to yourself as you produce and review something you make, you are in contact with your inner self and are using your intuition. And your inner self knows what it is doing, so you should listen to the advice you give yourself, listening to “your own inner dictates”

The best example I can give (as always) is writing.

When I first thought about writing, it was about twenty years ago. I read several books on the subject and started plotting out a book series by putting post-it notes on white poster boards in the basement. It was quite elaborate.

But do you know how many words I wrote?

Zero.

I ended up putting it all away and forgot about it as I focused on other things.

But why?

Because I was intimidated by writing and thought I could outline my way into a story. That doesn’t work.

And so one day I just said fuck it and started writing and to my surprise, the words began to flow.

Was the writing good? Not really, but you have to start somewhere. And over the last two years I’ve gotten better. I try to write or edit every day. And how do I get better? I read books I admire, watch videos on the subject and listen to my own work and try to work out the kinks.

But all of this is driven by a desire to be a great writer. That is the ideal I hold in my head and when I sit down to write/edit, I ask my future great writer to join me for I know that self exists now, regardless of how dim in the future it may be and I pull their skill in my direction.

That is the essence of playful work.

I write out of the joy of writing. I do not chase what is popular. I do not write because I want to be rich (although I’d never say no to a bit of income). I write because I know that I am creating a new world with my thoughts. Seth has taught me that.

And maybe, just maybe, in my dreams or in the out of body state, I can visit this world and when I sit at a cafe and speak with one of the characters and they ask “who made this place?”, I’ll answer, “I did. It was dream that I brought into existence through my words.”

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u/3rdfoundation — 29 days ago

Unpacking - A Unique Retrospective on Life

My Steam (video game library) is connected to my wife’s account and she has a game I’ve had my eye on for a while: Unpacking.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1135690/Unpacking/

I sat down last night and started playing it and felt like I was walking through a review of my life. It is a very simple concept: you are unpacking boxes and putting items away in different rooms.

And so we see in the first room the dreams and aspirations of a girl who wants to be an artist. And as she moves through her life, and into different locations, we see her life through the places she moves into and the items she brings with her and the items she leaves behind.

What a beautiful and ingenious idea and I am reminded of this snippet from Seth Speaks:

Your own physical environment appears as it does to you because of your own psychological structure. If you gained your sense of personal continuity through associative processes primarily, rather than as a result of the familiarity of self moving through time, then you would experience physical reality in an entirely different fashion. Objects from past and present could be perceived at once, their presence justified through associative connections. Say that your father throughout his lifetime has eight favorite chairs. If your perceptive mechanisms were primarily set up as a result of intuitive association rather than time sequence, then you would perceive all of these chairs at one time; or seeing one, you would be aware of the others.

And so I looked back at my life, and the places I’ve been and dreams and aspirations I had as a child. And some of those dreams came to pass and others fell by the wayside.

It’s a $20 game. Nowadays a beer and a bag of pretzels cost that much.

I don’t know the developer, but I think the game is a great meditation of the journey of our life. What places have you passed through? What dreams did you leave behind? What objects have you carried through your life’s journey from your childhood into the present (if any)?

I think these are all great questions to ponder and to think about where we are today, and what dreams remain and how can we achieve them. Want to play the guitar or the piano? It’s not late to start anew…

u/3rdfoundation — 1 month ago

Spontaneity Has Its Own Discipline

SESSION: Tuesday, June 30, 1970 (class 2)

Now, here we are again with our long, fierce faces. It seems I must be saying something very horrible to put you all on edge for you seem so solemn, indeed. If I am not solemn, and I am supposed to be dead, then why do you have such long faces? It would lead me to believe that to be alive must be a dreadful state indeed!

You see, and I have said this again many times in class, spontaneity knows its own discipline. The body breathes beautifully in a highly disciplined manner and knows nothing of your idea of discipline. Indeed, the seasons come and go. In your location it does not snow, usually, in July. The flowers appear and disappear. Everything has its season, and yet there is no discipline imposed from without. Spontaneity has its own discipline and its own knowledge, and when you attempt to rule spontaneity with a heavy hand, then rigidity enters in and you destroy the fountain of inner knowledge and intuition and understanding and you distort the emotions that you have.


Maybe you wake up one day and you have new ideas on what to do and where to go. Allow yourself the freedom to explore these new thoughts and see where they lead you, for your inner self knows what it is doing and some of these thoughts are from them, which is just you within inner reality.

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u/3rdfoundation — 1 month ago

You are Within Inner Reality Now

SESSION: Tuesday, June 23, 1970 (class 2)

Now, you each generally agree, I am sure, that you sit upon a couch.

You do not perceive the same couch. You only perceive your own idea constructions. You cannot perceive those of another. Telepathically you transpose your ideas in line with what you know of the other person’s thinking. You agree that the couch is here.

I expect at any moment anyone will get a ruler and measure it and then say to me that the couch is so long—how can you say it is not one couch? However, within your physical system the instruments themselves are distorted and, of course, they will agree with what they measure. There is no reason why they should not. Telepathically you all agree upon the placement of objects and their dimensions.

You agree, for example, that objects are physical—it makes little difference whether they are or not as long as you agree upon this.

There are other root assumptions that you take as a basis of reality. And in other levels of reality there are other root assumptions. These are the seeming laws by which you govern your experiences. Our note-takers (Sally and Florence) are doing very well considering that the paper is not solid and neither is the pen. It is amazing what you can do with nothing!

Now I will let you take a break.


We exist now, as impossible as it sounds, within a reality that is manufactured effortlessly, moment by moment, by our inner self perfectly in line with the seasons of the Earth.

And we put ourselves in this place and this time for a reason, for nothing is ever thrust upon us against our will.

And so in one regard, we are already within inner reality now as we sit on our couch or chair reading this and I don’t mean some other portion of ourselves that we are not conscious of. Each of us are living within inner reality right now, wrapping ourselves in a cloak of time that we call twenty-first century Earth.

And right now we need this wrapper, but one day we’ll come to recognize that other bubbles of space and time exist within our vaster identity and we can alter our focus to travel there and return with some really cool goodies.

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u/3rdfoundation — 1 month ago

Seth on Producing Art

SESSION 456: Wednesday, January 8, 1969 (early 9)

Now laughing loud and heartily, or crying deeply—either would serve you well, help release inner feelings and help clear the inner channels. You are trying too hard, as you know. Being an artist is a natural way of life with you. Paintings can and should emerge from you easily.

You do not need to justify your existence by painting. It is impossible to do so. There are two approaches, either of which would be highly beneficial. The first is to paint a portrait of a person whom you know, trying to portray the essence of that person, their deepest agonies and highest joys, their highest capabilities and fears of failure. This would induce on your part an honest effort to face the raw emotion of another personality, and portray it.

The emphasis would not necessarily be upon technique nor detail, though it could be, but upon portraying in one portrait, if you will forgive the phrase, the agony and the ecstasy of individual existence. This is what you often avoid facing.

Now. The other approach in many ways is completely opposed to the first one. Indeed it may not seem like an approach at all to you. Using this approach however, for ten days minimum, you drop the work you are doing. You drop the idea of work as work during your usual work hours. You capture as much as possible and in whatever way you choose, a careless, childlike, playing attitude.

Look at the scenes outside your window in this light. Think of your painting as a spontaneous play of the godlike self, who paints or plays for the pure joy of doing so, without effort, without questions, and without plans. Sketch whatever comes into your head. Do not limit yourself in any way whatsoever in terms of intent as far as subject matter, medium, technique. Indulge in a spontaneous childlike game. When you feel like sketching or painting, when an idea springs into your head, try it immediately. When it does not, when an idea does not come, then walk, play with your cat, do anything you want to do.


Now, I realize that Seth’s advice to Rob on painting is not that interesting to the average reader but his advice works for anything you pursue professionally.

There are two sides of the coin with creativity. On one side is the professional aspect, producing a piece of art with the intent of selling it. On the other side is being playful without money or responsibility in mind.

Upon reflection, photography is the closest skill I’ve come to blending both of the sides of the coin into a single session, for I know that great photos come from placing the subject in one or more locations and then allowing them to be themselves so that I can both capture what they think they are and what they can be in the same photo shoot. This usually involves taking many photos as the person prepares to pose or when I am joking with them between shots and when they get comfortable with me and I disappear into the background, then they can be themselves and I can capture that.

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u/3rdfoundation — 1 month ago

A Flying Apartment Building

SESSION: Tuesday, August 20, 1968 (class 1)

A portion of yourselves exist also in many other realities. When these classes in this room are in progression, other portions of your own personality are attending other classes. You are fairly decent students on all levels, though I have not given you an A—that is because I am a difficult teacher.

Now. This is an analogy—replicas of this room containing each of you exists now as you think of now in many other realities. Ruburt will explain electrical reality from our sessions. He will explain probabilities to you from our sessions. And you will see that while you are aware of simply one room and one time, and one evening and one class in your present moment, there are other rooms and other classes and you sit in them all. And each of you are given information according to the developments and characteristics of that particular portion of yourself who is attending.

In your terms, you are hanging out in space with nothing to support you and our friend here would be terrified of falling. You know that the physical floor does not support you, but you must pretend that the physical floor supports you or you would be dizzier than you are. So also at this moment in other realities do you sit, replicas of yourselves in other rooms and in other classes. And each moment as you know it, with this activity as you know it, exists in other realities, and you are a portion of these realities and you affect them.

As you go out and speak to others now, and change them, so on other levels do you do the same, and so indeed are you also changed and affected. This room could disconnect itself from this apartment building and go sailing blithely through space. And yet under many circumstances you would not be aware of it, for within the room if it sailed about evenly, the perspective would still be the same. And unless you looked out of the windows you would notice no change. But if the windows were sealed and closed, you would not know the difference, and so until you learn to look out of the windows to the inner selves, then you will not realize what your own environment consists of. For the perspective where you look is the same, and you have nothing to judge experience against.

…

There is, however, a pooling of inner knowledge that is highly helpful to all of you. I do not expect you to drown in that pool, for I have taught you how to swim, you see. And take care that you look out of the windows now and then, lest you all go sailing past West Water Street.


I always wonder when the shades are pulled and I am alone with no view outside, does the outside continue to exist or do I float within an unformed space?

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u/3rdfoundation — 1 month ago

Who is Seth Writing For?

Seth Speaks:

I do not speak so much to the part of you that you think of as yourself as to that part of you that you do not know, that you have to some extent denied and to some extent forgotten. That part of you reads this book, even as “you” read it.

The ego is a jealous god, and it wants its interests served. It does not want to admit the reality of any dimensions except those within which it feels comfortable and can understand. It was meant to be an aid but it has been allowed to become a tyrant. Even so, it is much more resilient and eager to learn than is generally supposed.

It is not natively as rigid as it seems. Its curiosity can be of great value.


This is from the first session of the first chapter of Seth Speaks.

Those are some strange statements. Is Seth speaking to our egotistical self or to the inner self? Read those session snippets as if you were the inner self instead of your egotistical self.

It certainly seems like Seth is speaking to the inner self in these excerpts even though the majority of the text is clearly targeted at the egotistical self.

It is almost as if Seth is saying “You need this ego. Don’t toss it aside or dominate it.”

You think I’m kidding? … consider this snippet I posted a few days ago from early sessions 3:

Two main possibilities come to mind. One, a continued lack of acceptance of the inner self could lead to worldwide catastrophe, as the ego runs wild. Two, the inner self, restrained and denied for too long a period, could explosively overwhelm the ego so that existence in the physical field was made most difficult, since the ego is equipped to handle such manipulation. Ego domination must indeed be halted, but it must be replaced with a balance between the outer and inner selves.


Food for thought…

This is why I say everything we need to know from Seth is in Seth Speaks...

There is a lot more hiding in that book than you may first suppose...

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u/3rdfoundation — 1 month ago

LSD and the Ego

SESSION 285: Monday, September 12, 1966 (early 7)

The organizational structure of perception can indeed be broken up, as recent LSD experiments certainly show. This can be highly dangerous, however.

The fact that this does occur does show that the systems of perception are not basically biologically a form of overall structure however, but learned secondary responses. It is disturbing to the whole physical system however to break up the strong pattern of perception. Inner stability of response is suddenly swept away. Changes that are not yet known occur within the nervous system under such circumstances, both electromagnetic and chemical.

The inner senses alone are equipped and able to process and perceive other reality systems. Even the distortions can be kept at a minimum with training. Indiscriminate use of the psychedelic drugs can severely shake up learned patterns of response, that are necessary for effective manipulation within physical reality, break subtle connections and disturb electromagnetic functions. Ego failure may result.

SESSION 306: Monday, December 5, 1966 (early 7)

Now. Your LSD and similar drugs do to some extent lift the imprinting process, though never completely.

In some personalities they will lead to what you call a mystic experience. They will carry the personality into new realms of perception. They will momentarily break up usual patterned organizations of perception. You will see with new inner eyes. To some extent you will view some aspects of reality apart from the usual physical structures that you impose upon it as a whole. There is therefore a freedom for the inner self. There may be a strong feeling of oneness with All That Is. This is of course much to those who have been primarily ego oriented, and it represents a meaningful breakthrough that can indeed provide the opportunity and impetus for a far more fulfilling earthly existence.

Of itself (underlined), however, it will not carry you further than this. Of itself , it will not give you insight into past lives or future existences. Of itself it will not lift you out of the framework of the physical system, but merely allow you to see that system as it is . It will allow you to experience your relationship with the system, and the system’s relationship with the whole.

It will not of itself transport you to other systems.

SESSION : Friday, January 19, 1973 (class CD 30)

You thought you were doing what you should do, and in his own way, so did he. This has nothing to do, however, with the fact that there are dangers in both endeavors...

(To the student who related the LSD experience)

or that with the use of drugs you automatically change the physical being of which you are a part. And you are lucky, for you are making your knowledge a part of you. But there is a dilemma with the use of such drugs, for part of the being knows what other portions do not know, and in immediate terms, even (when?) the knowledge of the cells supersedes the conscious knowledge that you must have, and in different ways, this has nothing to do with the fact that the inner mind knows more than the physical one, but that conflicts are set up. And you are lucky.

SESSION : Tuesday, February 6, 1973 (class CD 17)

VISITOR - I would like to find out something about the way in which a drug like LSD, in physical terms, exerts its effect....(Some words hard to understand) How does LSD actually get those memories to come out?

SETH - (to Visitor) I cannot quickly explain that to you. In the book, the nature of the body's reactions are explained and you will have to wait, for I do not want to give a simple explanation so that you think you are satisfied, because you could run off with it and it would not be a complete answer. The structure of the body is far too complicated to try to explain such an answer this evening.

SESSION 638: Wednesday, February 7, 1973 (nature of personal reality)

I want to discuss the state of grace in some detail and in different ways throughout this book. The young man who came here described in some detail the way in which LSD is used in therapy work with patients. The psychologists hoped to bring about a cure for various emotional difficulties, to literally introduce a "state of grace." Period. The material that I have just given you is necessary for any understanding of the ways in which massive doses of LSD can affect the individual.

A discussion involving LSD, conscience, the "death and birth of the self," mental health and spiritual illumination, may not seem applicable to those of you who have not taken drugs. But all of you do hope for illumination, greater vitality and understanding in one way or another, and wonder what methods might help you achieve these ends.

(chapter 10 begins)

Many have come to me, or written after "bad trips"; the young especially, always great searchers after truth, and very tempted to look to the chemical, LSD now,* as the latest method of finding it. I am not speaking of marijuana at all, which is a different thing altogether and is a natural product of the earth. I am talking about a chemical that is a result of your technological knowledge.

When you are fairly happy and content in your daily life, you can be said to be in a state of grace. On those occasions when you feel at one with the universe, or come upon an exceptional experience in which you seem to go beyond yourself, you can be said to be in a state of illumination, and this has many degrees and levels. In any such state your physical health benefits, generally speaking, though there may be some beliefs blocking in that direction.

(10:14.) These natural states activate within your cells "past" memory having to do with joyful cellular response, brought about by *Lysergic acid diethylamide-25. A "trip" can last for five to eight hours, or even longer. But there isn't any one psychedelic experience for all, either in terms of time or content — the whole thing is too intensely personal.

This personal kind of cellular memory in turn triggers other layers within the cells to varying degrees. Again, each atom and molecule contains within it "memory" of its "previous" experiences. According to the state of illumination or grace, those mass memories may be activated that do not necessarily involve your personal experience — though your own involvement and the events of your life may appear within them in an entirely different framework than the one with which you are familiar.

Any event of your life is written in the memory of the universe, for example, as you think of it. So in a state of illumination private cellular memory may be animated, and beyond this, a deeper level of knowing in which your own birth and death may or may not be explained.

In therapy using massive doses of LSD, a condition of chemically enforced insanity takes place. By insanity, I mean a situation in which the conscious mind is forced into a state of powerlessness. There is a literal assault made not only upon the psyche, but upon the organizational framework that makes it possible for you to exist rationally in the world that you know. The ego, of course, cannot be annihilated in physical life. Kill one and another will, and must, emerge from the inner self which is its source.

Now: Under such enforced conditions, you are literally facing egotistical consciousness with its own death in an encounter that need not occur — and while the physical body is fighting for its own life and vitality. You are bringing about a dilemma of great proportions.

The landscape of the psyche is indeed revealed, bringing good data to the psychiatrist. But the experiences undergone by the patients — and all of this applies to massive doses — represent the enactment, through terrible encounter, of the species' birth into consciousness, and its death as consciousness falls back annihilated; followed by its rebirth as the individual patient struggles to emerge again from dimensions not native under those conditions.

The deepest biological and psychic structures are altered. I did not say they were damaged, though they may be according to the situation. Consciousness is assaulted at its roots. When periods of transcendence are felt under such conditions, they represent the psychic birth of a new personality from the sources of the old, and from the death, psychically, of the old. In some cases the genetic messages have changed, in that they are different. (Strongly:) This is psychic slaying in a technological framework.

Under LSD you are highly suggestible. If you are told that the ego must die then you will kill it. You will telepathically follow the ideas of your guide under even the best of conditions. The psychic "rebirth" may leave you with a completely new set of problems, rising on the bed of the old and as yet undecipherable.

The new ego is quite aware of the conditions of its birth. It knows it was born out of the death of its predecessor, and for all its feelings of transcendent joy, natural enough at its birth, it fears that annihilation from which it sprang. The natural creature-integrity is not the same. The physical world will never be trusted in quite the same way. The alliance with it is not as secure. (Still very positively:) The "self that was born into the body, and grew with it, has gone, and another "self has risen from that previous organization.

You grow and live through deaths that happen in you constantly, and travel through births within your lifetime that you do not comprehend. (Jane leaned forward for emphasis:) Such massive doses of LSD chemically activate all levels of cellular memory to such an extent that in certain terms they are no longer in charge of themselves, and the memories can then emerge unpredictably when the system is under stress. The fine biological and psychological alliance is now weakened.

SESSION 639: Monday, February 12, 1973 (nature of personal reality)

When massive doses of LSD are used, you are artificially creating a disaster area from which you hope to salvage an efficient working self. It is true that the old interactions between an associative pattern of thought and its habitual action may be broken down, but it is also true that the inner-ordered structure has been shocked psychically and biologically. (A one-minute pause at 9:21.) In normal daily life, considerable natural therapy often takes place in the dream state, even when nightmares of such frightening degree arise that the sleeper is shocked into awakening. The individual's conscious mind is then forced to face the charged situation — but after the event, in retrospect. The nightmare itself can be like a shock treatment given by one portion of the self to another, in which cellular memory is touched off much as it might be in such an LSD session. But the self is its own best therapist. It knows precisely how many such "shocks" the psyche can take to advantage, which associations to animate through such intense experience and imagery, and which ones to leave alone.

Nightmares in series are often inner-regulated shock therapy. They may frighten the conscious self considerably, but after all it comes awake in its normal world, shaken perhaps but secure in the framework of the day.

SESSION 687: Monday, March 4, 1974 (unknown 1)

Because of the ego’s particular line of development, you have experimented with artificial drugs and chemicals, both in foods and for medicinal purposes, as well as for “religious” enlightenment. Some of the effects of LSD’ and other artificial psychedelic drugs give you a hint of other probable directions your consciousness might have followed, or might still follow.

Unknown class session (conversations with Seth 2)

“Now,” Seth roared to us all, “I am not telling everyone to go out and get grass marijuana, but grass is a natural ingredient, and acid LSD is not, in your terms. There are those who go on fasts and will not touch liquor or cigarettes and will not look an egg in the face, and who will take acid without a qualml But it has various effects—few that you understand—and it brings to the forefront knowledge of the self with which you are not, at this point, equipped to deal. The resultant lack of balance can be disastrous.

“You were lucky,” Seth repeated to Lauren. “I use the term ‘lucky in that you were graced to assimilate that knowledge in a way that you could at least bear, if not understand. But when you have mental experiences of the same kind of nature that are not brought about by LSD, then you draw out from the cells that knowledge, and you are prepared to face it. And, drawing out from your cells that knowledge, you bring about, on your own account, certain changes in those cells that are otherwise brought about without preparation. Only those changes occur, then, that are natural to your stage of development.”


TRIGGER WARNING: I will warn you that this “essay” may trigger you if you’ve had a bad trip with LSD so be warned…

It was inevitable at some point I would post on this topic... so here we go...

Now, that is a lot of session text on LSD, but that is pretty much everything in the Seth corpus related to LSD, so if you’ve ever wondered what he had to say on the topic, this is it, although I will say that NOPR covers it pretty well.

YouTube’s been showing some weird shit in my feed the last month and last night it suggested some LSD videos, so I watched them.

This is a video of an “average” housewife in the 50s taking acid without any idea of what she was in for. I’d say this experience went pretty well for her:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si-jQeWSDKc

Here is another video of a girl who’s clearly done a lot of LSD:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBICQjYjcpM

I think the bottom line with LSD is… don’t do it. That was always my message to my daughters: drink, smoke weed and party in college but don’t take LSD or any psychedelic.

Having said all of that… I did LSD blotter in college and it changed me. If I had just done it once, I think I would have walked away unscathed, but I was stupid and did it many times and eventually had some bad trips.

Seth is quite right about the natural integrity of the self being shaken to its core and I’m pretty sure my “current ego” is not the one that I was born with. Because of the spontaneous nature of my first LSD experience, I think the experience was “planned” by my inner self versus something I shouldn’t have done. But of course… I couldn’t leave it be at that and had to try to recapture that initial experience (which never happened).

LSD latches onto receptors in the brain that are responsible for limiting information flow. And so the floodgates of experience slam open and you are confronted with more information than you can handle. But from Seth’s description, we can see the situation is much more dire than that. Your personality and sense of self is under assault.

If you watch those video you will see that the people struggle to put into words the experience of LSD.

So what is it like? It’s been nearly 40 years since I took LSD but I will try to put it into words.

When it first kicked in, I still remember my first observation: “I am the director of my own movie”

At the time, this seemed like a profound statement, but you can see how mundane that sounds, and so it is in general with people on LSD trying to explain what they see to a sober person.

First off, I never felt like I was being assaulted by cellular memory, whatever that means. I never saw things that weren’t there. Instead reality was enhanced so that I could see more “at one time”. It seemed that time slowed down and I could physically see the shadows of the past catching up with the present. That is exactly what a tracer is. Again, you have opened the floodgates of perception beyond what you are capable of handling and one upshot of this is that you can now see seconds of the past overlapping the present. This results in hallucinations such as the hairs on your hand flowing from your skin like water or if I looked at a table with a chaotic natural pattern, I could now see layers of the wood flowing one under the other. Pot can produce a limited version of this if you look at pencil scribbles on a piece of paper. The drawings slightly gain depth and you can begin to see shapes in 3D on a 2D surface and if you are talented you can fill in this depth so that you can bring back a hint of your experience to your normal waking consciousness. But I doubt you could pull of such a hat trick on LSD.

Another thing that is weird is television. The images were flat and people had a slight glowing outline to them. My sense of it was that this was how animals view television. This also reminds me of standing next to a street watching cars go by while tripping. I realized that animals may not have the same perception of time and thus when they jump in front of your car, they may not be able to properly gauge speed and distance like we can.

Now lets move onto the “bad trip” side of things.

If you are high from weed, you can just fall asleep and call it a night. You can’t do that with LSD.

In fact, if I smoked weed or drank beer before having LSD, that effect “disappeared” under the immensity of the LSD experience. Your brain is designed to process weed. It is not designed to deal with LSD. When you take acid, you are literally fucking with your brain chemistry. That is a horrible plan. After having taken LSD I can now appreciate what it must be like for a schizophrenic or anyone with a serious brain imbalance to navigate the world. If I had to live my life with even a trace of LSD’s effects for the rest of my life, that would be a frightening proposition to put it mildly. When we were peaking on my first trip someone said it was going to last for a week and I was like “I’ve got a test on Monday. I can’t take it like this.”

So what is this bad trip business all about?

You can see from the second video that the girl is “not all there” and it isn’t just because she’s tripping. I suspect she’s done too much LSD may have damaged herself a bit at this point. I’ve seen this in people I knew took LSD all the time. There’s some Marylin Manson cult vibes going on in that room.

I will say that when I was tripping and wanted off the roller coaster ride, that wasn’t going to happen… there is no escape from yourself and you simply have to wait it out. And even when the experience is long gone, you feel rattled for your sanity, wondering if you’ll have a flashback. I know this doesn’t help, but I never want to experience that feeling again.

I tried to find a video that shows this man smoking DMT near a river bed. That shit was frightening to watch. I tried to go back in my “upvote” history on reddit to discover they chop it off after 60 days or so. I didn’t know that, but I digress.

It seems strange that some people are willing to go to the ends of the Earth, to most remote and back-asswards parts of the world, to obliterate themselves so they can pierce the veil of physical existence. And so indeed, they do, but do they come back with anything of value to the normal waking consciousness? I don’t think so.

So, my suggestion is not chase psychedelics to hopefully glimpse a moment of enlightenment. It just isn’t worth it, not that you will take my advice if you are considering it, and if you haven’t and you are thinking about it, this essay isn’t going to help you because you now know the downsides of it and it will be in the back of your mind as you are tripping.

Just don’t do it.

u/3rdfoundation — 1 month ago

Changing Your Focus

SESSION: Tuesday, October 14, 1969 (class 1)

Now, you are an identity. Pretend that you hold a flashlight. The flashlight is your own consciousness. Now. You can turn this flashlight in an infinite number of directions. These directions are always available to you. But instead, you get the habit of directing your flashlight in one particular direction. You hold it in this direction constantly and you have forgotten, you see, that there are any other directions.

All you have to do is swing the flashlight in other directions. You must momentarily, for now, shift the focus of the flashlight. And when you shift it, the direction in which you are used to looking will momentarily appear dark, but other images and realities will become available to you. There is nothing to prevent you from swinging the flashlight back. And when you learn what you are doing, when you learn what you are doing—then you will learn how to hold the flashlight stationary and still illuminate all these other areas. And these whole other areas represent human personality and all its potentials.

Pretend, pretend that yourself...your whole identity, is a tape, such as being used here, but in stereophonic. Now, pretend that you have eight channels on this fantastic machine. Now, the whole self is composed, to use this analogy, of the entire eight channels. Usually, however, you can only play one channel at a time. The whole self, however, is aware of the entire eight channels and is able to keep track of them.

The conscious mind as you know it is only one note on the first channel, not even the entire channel. You can learn methods that will enable you to tune in on these other channels. These other channels are all conscious portions of your own entire identity. They may or may not be aware of you as one small note on the first channel. They must learn to tune in, but many of them have already learned this knowledge and it is part of their own training.


This is a fun session I stumbled across this morning. Reminds me of Sumpter’s instructions to Ma’Ah on how to use her consciousness in the dream tribunal in “The Education of Oversoul Seven.” I do believe there are practical ways (tricks) to use your consciousness that simplify and streamline Seth’s teachings. Thinking of consciousness as a flashlight is one of those.

I must admit my study of the Seth material has ebbed and flowed over the last 40 years and in the last few weeks I’ve been pouring through it more out of habit than anything. I am sure many long-time Seth readers feel the same way. There have been years where the books collected dust on the shelf and other years where I poured through them daily.

To be honest, I’ve not been that successful with the inner senses. This is probably due to impatience more than anything else. I don’t like doing exercises over and over again with little, if any, results. Writing software or a novel or taking photos or drawing have instant and measurable results. You can analyze what you create and find ways to make it better. A perfect blend of the intellect and the intuition.

Compare this to inner senses development: Laying back and entering a light trance and allowing visions to arise in my mind are not consistent and when I do have a vision (and I’ve had hundreds of them) it has NOTHING to do with my current life and so from my egotistical perspective, has little if any practical value.

And so I strive to find ways to allow my waking self (ego) to pull data from inner reality without resorting to a trance and then put that information to practical use. And I honestly believe that writing is the best profession for tapping into inner reality without resorting to a trance.

What I’m trying to do with my writing is to create a new “imaginary” world to inhabit with my mind and to invite others to join me there by reading my books. And this new world that I’ve discovered (and I do mean discovered) is called “The Goliath”. This location seems too magnificent for me to have just made up on my own. It came to me one night two years ago as an overwhelming flash of inspiration (ie: a vision directly from the inner self).

My first goal is to write three books dealing with the creation, maintenance, destruction and renewal of this “world”. Once the three books are in place then I can finally “relax” and write ongoing self-contained short stories within this realm without having to worry about the overarching events that made it all possible. This is akin to writing Twilight Zone episodes that take place there or in locations related to it, similar to the Animatrix for the Matrix.

Writing an ongoing series is difficult because once a book is published, it becomes canon. To write these stories, I’ve had to create science that doesn’t currently exist and flesh it out to the best of my ability based on what I’ve learned about future technology from Seth/Jane. And some of this technology is science-based and some of it is mind-based.

But I often find myself asking “Is the Goliath real?”

The being that runs the Goliath is roughly equivalent to “All That Is” and it is quite capable. And so I wonder if the Goliath sought me out or I pulled it towards me or I just made it up out of thin air…

And if it’s real in some way (and I suspect this is the case) and the being that runs it is real, can it follow my thoughts through their electric reality across space and time to find me? I’m not the first writer to have this idea. Heinlein created a ship called the “Gay Deceiver” that does something similar.

I blame Seth for me thinking about writing this way.

Normally I’d just call it imaginary and nothing more… but now… I’m not so sure…

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u/3rdfoundation — 1 month ago

You Cannot See Your Ego

SESSION 133: Wednesday, February 17, 1965 (early 3)

Here is the secret, if you could but see it: Even though the electrical universe might seem to you far divorced from what you know, nevertheless you dwell within it. Your own emotions have an independent existence within it. And your own possibilities within it are unlimited. But even this is also a camouflage.

The idea that I want to portray is a difficult one, for as you know everything that is, is conscious. And everything that is, is also self-conscious, in degree according to its abilities; and everything that is therefore contains identity and separation, even while it is part of a large and complicated gestalt. No identities are blurred, but it makes no difference to the identities where you or mankind happens to draw a line, saying “Here we have A, and here we have B.”

A small frog for example may be more likely seen not as a frog isolated, but as one part of the pond in which he lives; and the pond part of the forest in which it lies; and the forest part of the earth; and the earth itself part of the universe, which is part of another universe.

It makes no difference to the frog, to the nature of the frog, and it changes no smallest cell within him, if you choose to enclose what you call him, as an idea unit called frog, or whether you consider instead the complete picture. The identities still remain the same.

When you look into the mirror you see the camouflage image. You do not see the ego, though you know that it exists. But the idea, ego, is in itself an arbitrary unit chosen for particular reasons. It is not a thing. You have drawn lines, imaginary lines, and made an arbitrary boundary. This does not mean that the ego does not exist.

The ego then, is only part of a much larger self, but because consciously you do not perceive the whole self you arbitrarily make a unit from a truly indivisible identity, and call this the “I.” This designation, this classification, in no way affects the nature of that indivisible self. It merely affects your own conscious attitudes. You succeed in cutting off, in theory, one portion of the self from the whole self.


When we look into the mirror, we think we see ourselves completely. But that’s not true.

We see the body as it exists within this place and time, but we cannot see our ego or our mind or our inner self or the entity. Yet there are no real boundaries between these “layers” of our identity. We adopt barriers so that we are not overwhelmed by “larger experiences” until we can handle them.

The ego was selected by the inner self from a pool of egos within the subconscious to live out this portion of the inner self’s simultaneous existence. The ego grows from the life we live within physical reality. But even though the ego is time-space oriented, it is also connected to the mind via the subconscious and the mind dwells within an electrical reality that permeates all points in our reality because all consciousness is connected to this electrical reality through their thoughts and ideas. And this electrical reality knows no limits.

Within this electrical reality, thoughts have a duration based on their intensity… their ability to draw electrical events across time and probability.

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u/3rdfoundation — 1 month ago

The Origin of Thoughts

SESSION 126: Wednesday, January 27, 1965 (early 3)

Thoughts are psychoelectric patterns, set up by the mind, and transformed to human codes by the brain.

The mind is always with you. The particular brain is the physical mechanism that translates the thoughts of the mind. It goes without saying then, that the brain belongs to the physical system, and here in clear terms you see the smooth cooperation that exists. Thoughts are initially psychoelectric patterns in pure form, productions of the inner self that must be translated in order to be used by the physical self.

Inspiration is often a more or less instantaneous translation, occurring for various reasons which I will give you later, without the benefit of the brain’s intervention. It is this strangeness that is often noted. The individual seems not to know where the thought comes from, because he does not recognize the characteristic mark of his brain upon it. And indeed such a mark is lacking, for inspiration originates with the inner self.


A lot of effort on Seth’s part went into describing the “electrical” reality of the inner self prior to this session. Thoughts have an electromagnetic existence in a non-physical reality wedded intimately to ours.

From this snippet we can see that ALL thoughts originate from inner reality. They do not originate from the brain. The brain translates the thoughts into something we can recognize. But some thoughts do not come from the mind, but the inner self and these thoughts can “skip the brain” and emerge immediately into our ego’s awareness.

But why do thoughts need the translation of the brain? What would they "look like" without the assistance of the brain? And how can the inner self jump past the brain directly into our awareness and not require a similar translation?

Thoughts are free of time and based on the intensity can simultaneously travel through the past, present and future.

As a writer, I am trying to better understand what these inspirations and visions that I have are, so that I can better appreciate when they occur and learn how to follow them “inwards” into the “electrical reality” connected to ours to pull in data from the past and the future.

The landscape of our internal experience is a very strange and mysterious place and the more I ponder it, the more confused I become. This is akin to the phrase “the more I know, the more I realize I don’t know”.

What exactly is a thought?

I know I want to go outside and walk for instance. That is an idea of future activity but what part of that is the thought? Is it the internal monologue about going outside. Is it a vision of me walking outside? Are thoughts internal words, sounds or visions or all of that?

I know for instance that there is a scene I want to write at the end of my second book. I can see a man sitting at a cluttered desk at the back of an antique shop and he is listening to the radio and the crux of the scene is what is coming from that radio (no spoilers…). Is that a thought? Is that a vision? Is it a real location? Or am I creating it by sitting down and writing what happens next? And how does this tie into the mind and inner self. Where is this vision coming from? Me or the inner self or did the thought travel along some “dimensional warp” within the neighboring “electrical reality” and return with some crazy shit for me to transcribe?

I have don't have clear answers to these questions, but I will say that without digesting the Seth material, I would have no idea any of this was going on (the mind, the inner self, electrical reality, etc) and assume everything comes from the brain, which is not correct.

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u/3rdfoundation — 1 month ago