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SESSION 518: Wednesday, March 18, 1970 (seth speaks)

I communicate with your dimension, for example, not by willing myself to your level of reality, but by imagining myself there.

Oversoul Seven (chapter 23)

Ma-ah waited until after sundown. She wanted to be back if possible before midnight, when the Speakers would be up and about in their dream bodies. Now she was frightened but determined. Could she remember the mechanics of out-of-body travel well enough to do what she wanted to? Could she master them without Sumpter around to help? Could she set her destination, reach it safely, and return?

Ma-ah lay down on her couch and closed her eyes. Will power alone wouldn't get her anywhere, yet she didn't want to fall asleep and drift into a dream, either. Instead, she started saying mentally: "I want to go outside, to the precise spot where I entered this place." Nothing happened. She wasn't being clear enough, she thought. She tried saying instead: "I want to stand outside, on the other side of the hidden rock door." At the same time she tried to visualize the spot as clearly as she could, from her hazy memory of it.

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Jane Roberts slips effortlessly in and out of trance. One instant she is herself, the next she falls into trance, projects her consciousness into another dimension and channels Seth. She does not lay in bed, relax, wait to fall into a hypnagogic state and then go into trance. She just does it in real-time.

And so in the same way, I believe in-my-bones that there is a way to do this same thing with consciousness projection.

Now, I will admit I have not spent much time on this. I am focused on my writing because it will produce a tangible result I can hold in my hand. The problem with doing “Seth exercises” is that failure produces nothing helpful. There seems to be no in-between. You either get an awesome result or you get nothing and 99 out of a 100 times, it is nothing, and so I have preferred do things that do produce a result.

We need something that is like going to the gym. You can see the results of your efforts as you work on it.

One of the primary problems I have encountered with OBE work is that I cannot imagine myself in another position besides my body. For instance I will lay in bed invoking the hypnagogic state and then try to imagine myself performing an action that goes counter to my current body position such as climbing a rope or floating above myself and this often trips me up. This approach did lead to my first OBE so it does work btw.

Now, the purpose of this post isn’t that there are “better ways” to do it. I am aware of those. I am just focusing on this particular approach.

I believe that our imagination is a muscle that can be worked and improved.

Again, you don’t become a concert violinist over night, but those who practice the violin can hear themselves improve. And so we need something akin to that. Not something relies on chance, exhaustion or only available in the pre-sunrise moment of every day. That will never lead to anything before the practitioner gives up (as I have many times).

We can see in both of the examples I provided (from seth and oversoul seven), imagination is the key to consciousness projection. Seth refers to this as "conditioning", for that is all any skill is... you have conditioned yourself to perform it through daily practice, and sometimes this practice takes years to get "good" at it.

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And so I invented something I call the “2 chair method”.

Setup:

Have two chairs relatively close to each other (to make it easier). Hopefully they are comfortable to relax into like two porch chairs in opposite ends of the porch. Ideally you will also need a sleep mask and noise canceling headphones. You will also need “white noise” to listen to. I personally like “White Altitude” by “Sky Travis” on Spotify. It is the hum of an airplane. Very soft and effective.

Part One:

Sit in the first chair and study the environment around you. Close your eyes. Can you still imagine the location you are in? (of course you can). Don’t get beat yourself up about not being able to see with your eyes closed. You will indeed be able to feel yourself in the location of chair one.

Now sit in the other chair and do the same thing.

Go back and forth between the two chairs repeating this exercise for like 5-10 minutes.

You should begin to get comfortable “feeling” yourself in each of the chair’s positions with your eyes closed.

Part Two:

Put on the sleep mask and headphones and play the white noise. What we are trying to do is remove all outside stimuli so that we are only left with the positional feeling of the chair because if you can see light through your closed eyelids or hear the outside you can still locate yourself in space and the exercise will not work.

Part Three:

With everything blocked out, we are going to repeat Step One. Obviously… lift the sleep mask, become aware of your environment from a chair’s position, and then put down the sleep mask and feel yourself in that position. Now, if sight and sound are blocked out, all you are left with is the feeling of your position in that chair.

Switch chairs and repeat this exercise just like you did in step one.

Part Four:

First relax as you sit in one of the chairs. Block out all outside stimuli and imagine yourself in the other chair.

Next swap chairs and imagine yourself in the other chair.

Now, finally, imagine yourself mentally swapping positions from one chair to the other without actually moving.

This takes practice, but you will get better at it. This is a concrete way to “work the imagination muscle” so that you can imagine yourself in another location.

Now, I have not spent a lot of time on this exercise but I have been able to “trick myself” into thinking I was in the other chair several times and because I keep swapping back and forth in my mind I sometimes forget which one I am in.

This is working the muscle needed for real-time consciousness projection. I am certain of it. And once you get good at it you can begin to move the chairs into other locations around your house.

SESSION 511: Wednesday, January 21, 1970 (seth speaks)

You have each lived other existences, and that knowledge is within you though you are not consciously aware of it. I hope that this book will serve to release the deeply intuitive self within each of my readers, and to bring to the foreground of consciousness whatever particular insights will serve you most.

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SESSION: Tuesday, February 3, 1970 (class 2)

Now. What I am trying to do is to awaken within each of you knowledge, intuition, abilities that are a portion of your entire personality. Now, once these are awakened, you can use them and they become a part of the physical self that you know. They become real to you. These abilities will help you solve other problems.

I have told you and I have told each of you here—that you are basically no different than I am. You are a consciousness in your time— dwelling within flesh. Presently, I have no body with which to manipulate in your physical system. And yet, regardless of that fact, each of you knows me well—you feel this vitality. And as I have said time and time again— such demonstrations should show you, since they are coming through Ruburt, that this energy is a portion of the energy that is your own—you have as much energy as I have—you have as much energy available to you as Ruburt has available to him. You each have as much energy within each of you as is being shown now in this room. My message is to use your own energy—to open yourself so that it can be known through you. The answers that you want reside within you . They will sweep out as easily and as clearly as air... if you let them!

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SESSION 515: Wednesday, February 11, 1970 (seth speaks)

My purpose is to open your inner eyes.

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SESSION: Tuesday, December 8, 1970 (class 2)

In this particular instance, I try to affect you so that you will not blow yourselves off the faces of your planet. Because while your planet is dispensable, it is the only one you have right now and there is no use being so wasteful.

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So, there’s a handful of quotes related to Seth’s purpose here. The last one should always be kept in mind, because part of his purpose to prevent us from destroying ourselves, so when I say that occasionally, it is not idle speculation, but a fact.

Now, I do not think that his full purpose is solely dedicated to opening the inner senses. I used to think that but I think it is broader than that. I think this statement comes closest:

He wants to “release the deeply intuitive self within each of my readers”

If you are a long time Seth reader, and I know there are a lot of you out there with more reading experience than I do, you know, just as I do, that developing the inner senses is hard. And of course, by saying its hard, it is hard. But that does not change the fact that when I have leaned heavily into this area for many months I have found myself with almost nothing tangible to show for my efforts. And I have found that being a diligent recorder of dreams has resulted in little benefit to my waking self. That is the fact of the matter, at least for me. I look back at my old dreams journals, where in some nights I recorded over a dozen and say “wow, that was a waste of time. Nothing in there to help me.” And many times I asked for specific dreams and my “requests” were almost never answered.

I’m not saying that dream work isn’t valuable in of itself and we do work at our purposes (I guess) in dreams but I haven’t seen much that I could put directly into action in my life. It feels more like a bit of extra color and entertainment in the background.

Obviously mileage may vary and you may have had quite the opposite experience. If so, congrats. Because I haven’t.

I can also tell you that my lucid dreams, and I’ve had dozens, are dim around the edges and when I fall back into dreams it feels like the “light is going out” with my consciousness. There is something called the spin technique you can use to extend a lucid dream, and that works, but this post isn’t about lucid dreaming per-se.

I lean towards the practical side of things, more specifically, leaning on my intuitive sense of things.

But what exactly does that mean? That isn’t helpful at all…

First off, intuition is not a clear voice in my head that I can then blindly follow its instructions. If that was the case, it would undermine our ego’s “control at the helm” so to speak. If you always got crystal clear advice that you could hear and you just did what it told you to do, you would not be making a conscious choice. So that is why intuition doesn’t work that way, or at least that is my guess… I don’t think Seth was clear on this point which leaves many readers fumbling in the dark trying to find their way.

Instead intuition is a sense of what to do next. I think the best way to describe intuition is “going with your gut” on something.

I understand this is still too abstract.

And so I turn to writing, because it is the closest I can come to showing intuition in action.

I am supposed to be editing my book so I can turn it over to my editor in November for professional review. And what did I do today instead? I wrote the opening chapter of the second book in my series. My gut said “do that!” and so I rolled with it, regardless of what my intellect demanded of me and that chapter came out effortlessly and it was a ton of fun.

And in retrospect I see it more clearly establishes the antagonist of the second book who makes an appearance in the first book, and now I know how to properly show him in that scene in the first book. And I bet you my inner self knew all of that the whole time and knew that I needed to do this and because I went with my gut, my first book will be better for it.

And that opening chapter (prologue) of the second book may be one of the best things I written so far. In my personal opinion, it kicks ass.

I will give you the last lines of the chapter’s first draft so you get a sense of it:

Zero’s voice boomed over the void. “Alexander Jovanovich. You have betrayed me and I sentence you to the Eternal Chaos. May your remaining days be filled with darkness and despair.” And Zero released him and he fell end over end into the darkness as reality collapsed in a crack of thunder.

And in the audiobook format, as the prologue ends it fades into this song starting at this point: https://youtu.be/8f0b0CDzvzc?si=fzVm4m_rQTx5ZSl0&t=42

And after the three part refrain the title of the book is spoken and then the song fades to nothingness before we start chapter one.

Now, THAT is how a book should start. And you can see the “villain” is not to be trifled with. I’m not trying to sell you on buying a book that won’t be published for years, but I want you see that when I am working on my writing, I give it all I’ve got to make something as bad ass as possible.

I swear to god that song emerged from nowhere from inner reality backfilling itself into all of time exactly when I needed to hear it and because I roll with my intuition, I instantly recognized it for what is: a window into the tone of my second book AND it is literally at the opposite end of the tone of my prior book which aligns more with Tame Impala and Cocteau Twins, and because it is at the opposite side of the "tone" it will shock readers expecting something completely different and yet I still think they'll love it. And that song unlocked future scenes where characters wield the power of space and time to battle each other within a planet sized ship at the end of time.

And the singer in that band splits herself into copies, just like a “god-like” character in my book: https://i.pinimg.com/736x/69/f8/61/69f86176801f22074295810525573783.jpg and I swear that character was singing directly to me and the following night I dreamed about her.

This is a practical example of going with your intuition. Be open to ideas that come out of nowhere. Maybe they come from youtube (as in this case) or from a book or a glimmer in your mind. And because I understand the Seth material I have learned to ride the thoughts and images that emerge from myself as I listen to music into the heart of probabilities and return with amazing scenes.

So… I don’t need to “open the inner senses”. That has never worked for me, but I have found a back alley that leads sideways to my intuitive self and it is writing and when the creative juices are flowing, my entity and me are one and we rush with intensity through the details of a scene and I can feel the vitality of my being when I am “being at my best.”

I have no idea if this example is helpful, but don’t put yourself down for failing to grab hold of the inner senses with some vague Seth exercise that none of us have been able to do.

There are other ways to tap into your intuition as this small example shows.

SESSION 9: Wednesday, December 18, 1963 (early 1)

The consciousness will expand on your planet, just as it expands for those who go beyond your plane. The scope of consciousness will be so broadened in the future that all personality fragments, split personality images, and even individual fragments in succeeding incarnations, will be held in clear focus without strain. It is toward this that evolution on the earthly plane is headed, though of course with its usual donkey-slow rate.

In the meantime, when incarnations on the planet earth are finished the entity moves toward this goal anyway. In any case by the time that this goal is reached on the earthly plane, those who have passed from it will have evolved in ways of which even I can only dream. Now rest your hand.

(“Seth, did I get all that down correctly?”)

I said what I said. I presume you got it all. Take a break.

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If you didn’t have a lot of Seth reading background, I suspect you would glide right past this session snippet without a second glance, but it has always caught my eye. There are several goodies in these two paragraphs. I also included the small exchange between Rob and Seth to indicate it was written down correctly.

And we can see too in that tiny exchange, that Seth isn't messing around. He essentially said "I assumed you wrote what I said, so lets move on." And I like that about Seth. He is a no-nonsense teacher and he expects competency and attention from his students.

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Earthly Plane

First off, I don’t like the term “Earthly plane” at all. Now, this is only session 9, so Jane and Seth are still developing their vocabulary, but I don’t like it. Just as the term “spirit” comes with all kinds of religious baggage, the term “plane” also comes with baggage, in this case New Age and more generally spiritual BS. And “Earthly plane” may have several connotations in just these two paragraphs. The first is at our level of existence, and the second is at Seth’s level of existence and I think the term, at least partially, is meant to encapsulate both in these paragraphs.

When I hear “Earthly Plane” I immediately think of the “Astral Plane” and I hate that shit too.

So how would I describe it, if the word “plane” doesn’t work?

I’d say dimension comes closer. At least it isn’t tied so tightly with “Astral Plane”.

I am reminded of this exchange from “Oversoul Seven”:

She shrugged, and looked up to see Sumpter walking purposefully toward her. Coming close, he smiled and pointed at the tree drawing on the wall nearby.

"Mamunsha," he said. He squatted down easily beside her, a habit he'd recently taken to, to minimize the difference in their sizes.

"I thought sanoraja was the word for tree," Ma-ah said, in her new language.

He grinned. "Sometimes it is. Sometimes tree is arumba -that's a tree at night, when there's no moon. Lidata, that's a tree splashed with sun. Kadita-that's a tree with leaves dancing." He was laughing now, but serious. His laughter disconcerted her. It reminded her that he had feelings. "Look at that drawing, and make up a word that fits it," he said.

Ma-ah stared at him uneasily.

"Go on," Sumpter said.

"Brambeda."

"Then that's what the tree drawing is in this moment."

"But I just made it up." Despite herself, Ma-ah was laughing, too.

"Exactly. When you force certain specific words onto objects, you limit them and their reality to you. So we have certain words which you've learned for the purposes of classification. But we never make the mistake of confusing the object with the name we've given it. All objects are changing constantly. No one word could ever express the entire reality of any one thing in all of its many aspects."

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Donkey-slow Rate

For some reason to me, this phrase feels pervasive throughout the Seth material yet when I searched for it, I only found it in this one session. He does refer to donkey in a variety of places (he bought/sold bells for them in a life for instance), but this is the only place where he says donkey-slow. This means that this session really stuck with me the first time I read it.

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Holding it all in focus

Here we can see the end goal of the entity. And this makes perfect sense to me. At the very high end of development, beyond all rational comprehension, is All That Is, and that being can hold every atom, molecule, blade of grass, people, planets, stars, probabilities, entities, etc in clear focus and hold them up with ease. A herculean task to put it mildly and it does this, moment by moment, not just once, but at every microsecond. And because it can hold everything in focus it is capable of snapping it all together so perfectly that every mote of consciousness is provided just the right context for it to grow and flourish. No matter how much we think we understand what All That Is, we are wrong.

And so to hear that the entity strives to hold all of its incarnations and fragments in focus with ease seems like the logical progression from where we are. And where are we at in this spectrum of awareness? We are trying to hold in clear focus all of our skills, friends, jobs, dreams and hobbies. And so if we want to move towards the experience of the entity (who is in the process of holding lives in clear focus), we should strive to hold our daily life in better focus.

Yes… as we grow, the responsibility grows with it. Get used to it. Like it or not, that is the “future” for each of us.

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Seth’s aspirations

We get a VERY rare glimpse into Seth’s goals:

those who have passed from it will have evolved in ways of which even I can only dream

That is the real gem of these two paragraphs. Because this session is so early and they are still building a rapport, and Seth is “eager to gain their trust” he has a tendency to blurt out things he probably shouldn’t, and this is one of them. These are the gems I search for when I read the early/private sessions, but you have to know Seth well to know when he slips up.

And so we can infer from this, that Seth is still a part of the Earthly “plane” in some way even though he is outside of the reincarnational framework… or is he? I wonder...

Take this snippet from Seth Speaks:

In the infinite varieties of consciousness, we are still aware of a small percentage of the entire banks of personalities that exist.

I know I said that the average incarnations on Earth is around 7-10. I think that is the minimum. I say that because not everyone who enrolls in Earth’s passion play enjoys it, for it is harsher than most “training seminars” according to Seth (I really do need to track that session down at some point). This is not as strange an observation as it may appear.

Think about your life. Maybe you signed up for guitar lessons thinking you’d like to jam out on the porch and once you got into it, your heart just wasn’t into practicing and you left the guitar in the corner to collect dust. Oh I think this is VERY common. And so I think those who start reincarnation may not find it to their liking once they arrive and their heart just isn’t in it and so when they complete the minimum number of classes, they move onto other things they find more interesting.

But for those who do enjoy reincarnation, the opportunities are vast involving all sorts of challenges. For I know that those who come here look at the end-point of reincarnation (fully developed entities) and say “I want that” but I suspect many discover “I don’t want to go through all that bullshit to get it”.

There are endless topics I can discuss here and I guess this is one idea that circled in my thoughts this morning as I lay in bed.

Now, first of all, I am not looking for pity. That is not the purpose of this post. But I do want you to understand why I created this forum, why I went silent for many years and why I returned a couple of years ago.

My first wife died of brain cancer. That was a slow process and it shattered my life and my daughters lives. And the idyllic life that we had lived up to the point of her prognosis was gone in an instant. And as her death approached I realized I was going to be alone in bed at night. And then it came to pass and I couldn’t bring myself to sleep in my bed for over a year. And I looked at all of my neighbors whose lives went on as if nothing had changed and I asked myself why me? why us?

And so I reevaluated my life. There were four primary goals in my life outside of being a parent and a husband and it was these in this order.

• Be successful at work
• Create a video game
• Write a story
• Develop mental prowess based on the Seth material

And so I slid the Seth material to the front of the line and created a website and this subreddit dedicated to Jane. And I returned to online meetups. And then I remembered instantly why I didn’t go to them anymore, because I have no patience for illogical and goop thinking which is pervasive there and I quickly slid the Seth material to the back of the line again and this subreddit went dark for many years.

And then, because I can be an asshole without realizing it, my financial adviser dropped the mic on me out of the blue and left me hanging with a pile of difficult to manage financial instruments and forced me to learn how to do it myself. Fuck you, you bastard. She really thought she had fucked me. But I have a saying: I never give up and I never surrender. And so I sorted all of that shit out and I had a deep think about my life, again.

And so I thought, maybe I should retire early and focus on a VR game full time. I didn’t have enough money to reach the end of my days, but it was enough to give me a runway to work on it. And so I quit my job and dug my heels into C++ on the Unreal Engine to build a VR game that would allow the player to manipulate time and space. And after a few years I got that working.

And then COVID hit.

And then Trump got reelected.

Worst. Retirement. Ever.

And that second term of Trump worried me because Project 2025 was very real and he and his team were hellbent on destroying the US. And I was not wrong. I tried to explain it at Seth meetup (because I am stupid and kept going back to them) and then I saw that many members were republicans who supported Trump.

What. The. Fuck?

ICE came to Minneapolis (my hometown) and they proved me right, and I don’t want to hear about “you drew this into your reality bullshit.” Spare me. I wanted none of this. I had started a youtube channel on writing just weeks before he got elected and I was like “What just happened?” And so I stopped that before it really got off the ground.

And so I pushed my Seth goals back to the top again and dropped everything else, because I thought maybe if I can develop my mental prowess enough, I can make a difference. I quickly built an web application using python and postgres on top of all of Seth’s knowledge, including the two German books, went back to the meetups, yet again, and showed them my tool and blew them away with it and my knowledge on Seth and so was invited to stay in Jane’s room. And I allowed myself to be blinded by that. And that was a HUGE mistake that I have tried to explain in my recent post “My daughter thinks Seth is a cult”. Do not go there. I beg of you. And please don’t ask me about it because I’m not going to go into the details, but that place is a dead husk of itself and should be torn down as far as I’m concerned.

Jane doesn’t live there anymore.

And because I seemed to go there out of the blue and I had never shared my priorities with my family, they worried, rightfully so, for my sanity.

But after a while I came to realize that Trump is going to do what he is going to do and there is absolutely nothing I can do to stop him unless I want to add politics to my list and put that at the top. And I don’t want to do that. And no amount of the mental skills promised by Seth is going to stop him. And so I have rearranged my priorities, yet again, so that writing is on top because of everything that is on my list, that is by far the easiest. I’ve already got a first draft of my novel done and I’m editing it and have hired a professional editor.

And so I am left with the question, “Why am I still here?”

I don’t know exactly TBH.

Over the last few weeks I have come to recognize, finally… finally, that I can convince nobody of anything at all, whether it is a Seth reader or my friends. And so what’s the point of being here then if I can’t convince anybody of anything?

Well, I would say that I have also learned that even though I cannot change anyone’s mind on anything, I CAN articulate Seth’s knowledge very clearly and I have seen members say that I voice thoughts they have privately held on the Seth material. And so in a certain way, if anything, I am an echo of your thoughts, helping you reinforce the things you have felt for a long time in your heart but nobody had the courage to express.

I think a better question is why do I watch videos of writing experts giving their opinions on the craft. Because I recognize that they know what they are doing, and I open myself up to their wisdom knowing full well that I am a novice at writing. And when I listen to them, because I am knee deep in writing, I hear them express the truth of writing and by them putting it into their own words it comforts me and helps me clarify why I am writing.

I know that the likelihood of my book being wildly successful is slim to none. And obviously I would love to get a publisher contract that would relieve my worries about the bills, but that is not a reason for writing. And I’m not going to chase what is popular. That is a fools errand and will leave me at the end of my days with the single thought of “why did I waste my time doing that, when I could have wrote about what I loved.”

Now, that does not mean I do not visualize what I want. I do it a lot. I see myself being on the NYT best seller list and being on talk shows talking about my book and doing book signings and reading parts of my book aloud. The Seth material has taught me to do that, and I think it is a fun exercise, but I also recognize that many other authors, whether they admit it or not in public, also do those things in private because every author thinks their novel is a masterpiece, and they should, or why else are they writing?

The world will be what it will be, but regardless of the popularity of my novel, I put in the work everyday and that is a skill that I can carry with me into inner reality, AND it is now a skill available to my entity, AND in a certain way, it aways was, because all time is now. And I also leverage that fact by asking my world-wide successful author ego to join everyday as I write.

And so, in the end analysis, I hope that you get something out of my posts. I recognize now that I cannot change your mind on anything you don’t want to change, although I will continue to try. I am here to speak frankly about Seth’s wisdom, and because I have read Seth for so long, and internalized him to the best of my ability, I have learned to think like he does. I am not channeling Seth and when I say “I can hear Seth over my shoulder” I don’t mean that literally. I mean that I understand what he would think about anything I do because I know him so well, or at least I think I do…

And so lets pull up a chair and unpack one concept: “You Create Your Own Reality”.

That cuts both ways. Not only do YOU create your own reality, but EVERYONE does. And so, what that means is that you don’t get to tell others what to think. When you think that you can use telepathy or visualization or Framework 2 or whatever to change another’s opinion, you do not, on some level, trust their innate wisdom and to a certain extent think that they must think the way you want them to.

And that is not right.

And I know… I know now that you can’t hear me if you don’t want to, because I have learned, finally, that I can convince nobody of anything.

And here I am trying to convince you of something that you don’t believe!

Seriously, why do I bother…

What a vicious circle beliefs are…

And so I feel Seth’s frustration at trying to explain the truth of things.

All I can do, is speak truth as clearly as I can. Over and over again and hopefully some of it will begin to register with you. But if it doesn’t, that’s also okay, because in the process of trying to state the truth, it becomes clearer in my mind every time I do it. And it also improves my writing skills, gets the wheels turning so-to-speak.

I would never dream of trying to change my daughter’s mind that she thinks I am in a cult. We could talk about it, and we have in the past, but I am not going to change her mind one-iota if she doesn’t want it changed. And I respect her opinion, even though it makes me sad that she thinks I am deluded.

I am not so insecure in my beliefs that I feel that I must force them onto another. And so if she feels that way, that is her right as an individual who creates their own reality.

Anyway, I digress.

But I wanted you, as members here, to understand why I created this place.

I didn’t do it out of some sense of being a leader. That was the last thing on my mind. I would call it a con, not a pro. I did it because Jane was awesome. And she was courageous. And if she can put herself out there and absorb constant ridicule, then so can I.

It’s the least that I can do to try to be like my hero, Jane Roberts.

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You Create Your Own Reality.

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That’s it really. Nothing more. Nothing less.

It’s a tired, worn out phrase, that has been said so many times it has lost its “zing” and at this point it is just words you read and you think you know what it means and don’t even pause to look at it anymore.

But that doesn’t change the fact that it is the core of Seth’s message.

And often I see folks get tangled up in the forest of Seth’s more exotic ideas such as probable reality, simultaneous existence and the idea that everything is happening now. God knows I have in the past, so I get it.

But put all of that aside for a moment. It isn’t really important and Seth knows that.

You are here and now.

There are other phrases in our popular culture that are similar, and maybe more practical such as “Seize the day” and “Just do it”.

Stop putting your life on hold for enlightenment to fall upon you. It will come in its time and its place. In the meantime, live your life. You put yourself here, not to escape it but to enjoy the glories of the Earth. And yes, I hate what is happening in the U S of A, but underneath it all is the Earth, and the squirrels and the birds don’t know about our political machinations or the wars and the crime. They live in the moment and raise their young and hide their nuts in the grass and occasionally sleep on my rooftop. Cute little buggers I say.

Every month of my life seems to bring a new lesson into clear focus, and this month’s lesson for me is that I cannot convince anybody of anything they don’t want to hear. Because beliefs are rigid. And TBH nobody is going to convince me of anything I don’t believe either, so ironically the same thing applies to me too.

Now, I just so happen to think I’m right, and it makes me a cocky son of a bitch sometimes, but then again, I’m sure you feel exactly the same way about your beliefs.

And so I would ask you to realize that you are in charge of your script and at any moment you can pivot away from what you don’t like and pursue your dreams. Don’t ask someone else what you should do. Ask yourself and trust that answer for it comes from within your mind and your mind is a dimensional link to your entity, for inner reality is purely mental, but of course so is the physical world too.

When you look back at your life when you are finally “dead”, what will you see? Will you feel pride in your accomplishments and joy in how you laughed with your friends or will you feel regret for not doing what you wanted to do in your heart because it didn’t pay the bills? You don’t have to die to review your life and change its course if you don’t like where you are going. It is never too late to start anew.

You are an adventurer, we all are.

Don’t forget that fact.

And you get to write your own adventure.

Make it a great one.

This is my favorite session of all time and I’ve posted parts of it before on a variety of occasions.

A real gem.

And one day, I know, each of us will experience what Seth is saying.

It’s all just a matter of “time.”

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All time is now. You are real now. Your reincarnational selves are real now. What you do affects each other. The power of the present is now. Some day you will understand what I tell you again and again, and in each of your private illuminations, greater insight will come upon you than you can now imagine.

You cannot think clearly of reincarnation unless you feel for the cells within your body, for there is a direct correlation. To other portions of yourself, as you understand it, each day brings forth a new being, and the secrets, so-called, of each reincarnational past are alive in each twenty-four hour period of your lives.

It is, my dear friends, so incredibly simple. And when and if I ever manage to slice through the hard work that you think must be done, then the knowledge will fall upon you as a rain drop upon a blade of grass, and no words will be needed.

Now, I return you again to those selves that wait for you in the future and the past, to those selves that are present now, in this room, that inhabit the same space in which you now sit. I return you to those voices that are your own; and some day you will hear these words speak from those mouths, and you will know why this voice sounds so familiar.

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And intuitively, the image of a raindrop reminds me of one of the greatest monologues of all time:

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.

I have never told my daughters what to think or forced any religion or philosophy on them instead allowing them to form their own opinions.

I have been to the Seth house and stayed in Jane's room for a night and she told me today that from her perspective that was cult-like behavior.

And I must admit that gave me pause.

It doesn't mean I don't believe in Jane Roberts or Seth, but that doesn't mean I don't see what she means.

Maybe I should just pack it up here and find my own way in private as I have always done and let folks discuss topics without me.

Not sure yet.

You don't have to rush to the defense of Jane Roberts or Seth or ask me to stay. Jane Roberts was real. I know that. But it does show what the world at large thinks of us. And I'm tired in my bones about the constant derision and eye rolling and to be honest, I don't really need Seth anymore. I have internalized his teachings and know how to apply it practically in my daily life.

Even Jane grew tired of Seth. You may not know that. For an entire year in the hospital she stopped channeling him, tired of it all. I saw it in her private journals at Yale.

So I know that feeling all too well.

Jane is a window through which her other selves “from the future” within inner reality can speak to us. And the irony of it is, that because she IS the window, she cannot hear what is being said through herself. How strange is that? You can see her flipping through pages of notes in that video I posted the other day trying to read what she was saying moments before.

That video is really cool.

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SESSION 419: Wednesday, June 26, 1968 (early 8)

SETH II:

I told you that in many ways Ruburt’s personality acts like a warp. In certain coordinates it exists at certain points that are entry points, and certain coordinates here merge informational channels that are opened. Personality is itself an energy source. Now this is rather important. The personality operates and has always operated in this manner. Of itself it is like a peephole or a transparent area through which other areas can be glimpsed, and through which information from other dimensions can flow.

Now, the strong ego structure has been adopted as a necessary guard and protection to hold the abilities in check until the present personality learned to develop its abilities to a sufficient level. For the energy behind the personality could have swept the temporary psychological (word missed here) … apart until sufficient preparation had been carried on. So do not berate that ego.

The personality ego structure had to be strong, for the whole personality is in many respects a transparent one through which we can speak and through which other realities can be seen. In most basic respects this statement is meant literally and not symbolically. The personality in itself is formed from components existing in many realities…

…and is an apex point. The personality without realizing it also operates as a transmitter, sending messages to other portions of reality. The abilities must be used, the creative urges therefore fully utilized in all areas —the psychic, the spiritual, the more earthy writing and painting, for this energy sweeps through the personality and cannot be dammed up.

The window cannot see through itself, but you can see through the window. So this personality does not always know what it is about, and yet the results can be seen. The personality is transparent also with your nature, and learning to use those abilities which are natural to it, can indeed then rather easily learn to merge consciousness with natural phenomena.

SESSION 419: Wednesday, June 26, 1968 (early 8)

I have told you who we are.

We adopt whatever personality characteristics seem pertinent, for in our own reality we have a bank of complete inner selves, and we are all Seth.

We are among the most ancient of entities in your terms.

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SESSION: Tuesday, January 26, 1971 (class 3)

Within you, for example, and everyone in the room, there is an unlimited amount of what you would call identity. Now all you do when you have an identity and focus on it, is grab out of your own bank of potentials a group of potentials and say, “these are the ones I will settle upon for now, and these I will call my identity, and so I will use these and I will ignore anything else.”

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SESSION: Monday, July 17, 1972 (personal 2)

All of you draw your characteristics from the one entity that is the bank of your personality.

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SESSION 768: Monday, March 22, 1976 (personal 3)

Your acts go into a bank of experience from which others can draw.

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Until recently I thought of simultaneous existence as something apart from my present life since I have never traveled egotistically between them. I knew we shared information but that sounds abstract and not practical.

And then I started paying attention to my mood and attitude about things throughout the day. And I was surprised by how much it varied.

Because we have a single body we assume we have one identity and it comes exclusively from our brain and that it can only change through its experience through the seasons of our current life and that anything learned from other selves is but a dim echo and only the inner self within non-physical reality can truly draw upon these other selves.

And I suspect since this is how I thought about it, I bet some of you think of that way too. And I'm starting to discover I was wrong about this, thinking about it the wrong way.

Part of the purpose of reading the Seth material is to broaden your idea of yourself, because if you don’t know you have other selves at your fingertips or you think that is just bullshit or wishful thinking, you won’t be able to capitalize on this potential.

So you must first recognize that this is possible or it won’t work.

One way to approach this, is to think about each skill we have mastered as a separate ego. And the more varied the skills, the more you can identify the commonality between them, and this self that sits “above” these skills like a spider in a web is closer to our true identity, or at least that’s my sense of it.

How do you approach various things during the day? Your job, parenting, playing a video game, taking a class or writing an email. Each of these are like a pieces of a larger puzzle and you can use them to better understand who you truly are… to start to recognize your greater identity.

Ask yourself how you approach each of your skills and what is similar about them.

I know that my creativity at any task is fueled by music. That’s my personal approach to it and we each have our own way to fill up the creativity tank.

Before I start writing for the day, I find a piece of music (usually Tame Impala or Cocteau Twins) that matches the tone of the chapter and listen to it and I mentally construct a music video of that song that is based on the events I anticipate for the characters in the upcoming chapter(s). And usually something new pops out. A vision of a character doing something amazing I had not considered otherwise. And I do this exact same thing when I write code for my VR game. Same technique but different skill.

You have an invisible reservoir of skills, banks of personalities so-to-speak at your fingertips and it is not some distant abstract concept that is lifetimes of learning away from you.

Instead, I propose that it is available to you right now as you read these words.

And one way to practically dip into that well and pull up the personality you need is to first realize that this is possible and then visualize yourself as already mastering whatever skill it is you are working on. And you may not have all the prerequisite background knowledge to execute on that skill yet, but you can ask yourself what your best self would do next and you will get an answer. That answer is not a delusion. It is bubbling up from your bank of personalities. And you must trust that answer and take the next practical step that you tell yourself to take.

I am serious. You can do this right now and you don't need any fancy Seth training.

You do not question where your breath comes from. Instead you breathe effortlessly. And the same thing can be applied to learning new skills or tackling new challenges. Do not second guess yourself and think "this is a lot of bull" (as Seth would say). Instead give it a shot and run with it.

This is what Seth is trying to teach us to do. To trust our “innate wisdom” which really means to follow the thoughts and ideas that arise in our efforts to master any one skill.

And when you “condition yourself in any one vocation” you learn to effortlessly become in sync with that expert self that you already are. And I suspect that in Seth’s realm, they quickly master new skills because they know and have internalized this “secret” I have now given you.

I say this often here, but questions are the lens through which I appreciate and understand the Seth material. And when I think about Seth and his realm, one of the questions I have is “Seth, how do you learn?”

The secrets to who we are and what we will be lay scattered around us, plain as day, and we are blinded by the brilliance of our physical experience to see them. And some things are as “natural as breathing” and we don’t even stop to think about the oddities of our daily experience.

And writing has caused me to look into myself and try to untangle what is going on.

Writing is a mysterious process. Where do these words that I am writing come from? How do I form coherent sentences, paragraphs and a conclusion to whatever I am writing? I really do not know. Even after two years of writing a novel, I still don’t know.

I knew, for instance, that this was a good topic to dive into. But I have no plan on how I’m going to answer it. Instead, I put on my writing adventurer’s jacket and backpack and begin my journey into the darkness trusting that the words will come to me from all of my reading of Seth’s knowledge.

Yet… somehow, and I don’t know how… I am getting better at it.

What am I training when I write? And how am I getting better?

And the answer to this question is the secret to how Seth learns. I am sure of it.

And as a writer, I look at other writer’s struggles and I understand them now.

Take this quote from Ann Lamott:

“If something inside of you is real, we will probably find it interesting, and it will probably be universal. So you must risk placing real emotion at the center of your work. Write straight into the emotional center of things. Write toward vulnerability. Risk being unliked. Tell the truth as you understand it. If you’re a writer you have a moral obligation to do this. And it is a revolutionary act—truth is always subversive.”

She gets Seth and she probably doesn’t even know who he is AND she doesn’t need him for she internally understands his lessons and puts them to practical use in her writing.

Telling the truth is the key to awakening yourself to your inner wisdom because when you speak truth, you speak for your entity, for you are your entity.

But I digress, and the more I write posts here, I see why Seth digresses because there are so many goodies as I walk the path of words. I stop at a flower and I say “That turn of phrase is cool.” and maybe we should talk about it. But back on the topic of our “hard earned knowledge”.

I am an “expert” (which just means I have put in the time on it) in three things: software, photography and now writing. Although whether I am an expert in that is questionable at best, but I do strive to do better everyday. And so what I have learned by exploring these three vocations over my life? Where are those skills that I have acquired and how do I apply them to what I create?

I never considered these questions until I started writing, and I didn’t really think about it until recently. When I write software, I first imagine what I want to produce, and then, through my many years of expertise I know where to start. I know which parts go first and because of that, the software “grows” from that seed, blossoming into all sorts of features. And so my training in software has taught me where to start, how to organize my code and how to deal with various issues that arise as the project grows through things such as polymorphism and factories. Take writing a VR game for instance. I use the Unreal engine but I do not use any of their front end scripting language. Instead I write in C++ directly on top of their C++ infrastructure and I can tell you the place to start is in the “tick” method. What you probably don’t know, unless you are a hardcore game developer, is that graphics are refreshed within the heart of the engine on every “heartbeat”, which is called the tick. And that tick method is elegant because it only receives ONE piece of data from the prior tick and it is the amount of time that has passed. And from that one thing, I can add everything I need within the tick method and have it branch out to render everything on the screen.

And yet when I look at a blank software project, I have nothing in my hands but knowledge.

And the same goes with writing and photography.

And with each of these, I have my leanings and preferences and those are uniquely my own. For instance, I know great photos happen “on the fly” and it is my job to have fun and take my clients to places that are beautiful and I try to catch them off guard and snap many photos. And I have never had a client that didn’t love my photos.

And with writing, I reach into my heart and fill myself with emotions and then, once I am bursting at the seams I begin writing, when I write the first line of a chapter, I set it into poetry and when I am done with my initial poem, I collapse it back into a sentence and use that as a launching point for conversation and set dressing because I have fueled that chapter with sparks of emotion. And those emotions are hidden from the reader, yet through my words, they can sense them.

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Take this snippet from my novel:

Zara absent-mindedly explored the contours of the locket beneath her shirt as her gaze drifted across her painting of Hovensgard, hung prominently in the living room.

She stood at an easel under the shade of an oak tree, by the shores of Avalon Lake, adding swirls of sapphire to the tips of sails frozen in time.

A dried leaf rose into the air and she joined it, gliding over the waves and around the sails, to the far shore, drifting above seashells and castles of sand, before settling down onto the tall grass that swayed beneath the chestnuts.

A train rushed by, casting them into the air, and they soared high above the city streets, swept into the currents rushing between the mirrored spires, losing themselves amidst the daydreams of passerby citizens, under the warmth of the underground sun.

They awakened beyond the glow of the city, drifting along the shadows that crept past the quiet suburban homes, following a stream of streetlights to a lone sidewalk where the wind grew still and they fluttered down onto a cracked step, feeling the hum of aging machinery breathing life into their underground world.

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That is beauty, but how in the hell did I do that? How did I write that? I did edit the hell out of it for days until it felt "perfect"

I know I allowed my emotions full reign to flow through that scene and for some reason, I wanted to join that leaf on its journey across the waves to the far shore. There was no intellect involved. It was pure emotion.

And so with all three of my expertises I can see what is in common. And when I develop a new skill, this “wisdom” I am compiling over my life makes the next challenge easier to tackle for I now understand that emotion sits at the core of everything I do.

And so when we are learning something new, we are teaching ourselves the syntax of that particular skill (and it may require many years of prep-work) until we can start the real work, which is to free our mind to allow the emotions to flow effortlessly through us.

The thing that led me to this topic was Seth’s mention of “conditioning”. Now I tried to find the particular session and I suddenly discovered he’s been saying this everywhere.

This is a small sample from Early Sessions 1:

Conditioning and regularity is important as you know from your own work.

There you have it.

Conditioning is the key to learning, and I would also agree on that regularity bit too.

So, when we are learning something, we are conditioning ourselves in any one skill. Through our many lives we are learning what it takes to learn something, and I do believe that we will learn best when it is something we enjoy because the “conditioning” does not go against our nature.

But we also, have to put in the work.

So in whatever you do, understand you are building up a skill set and you are conditioning yourself to be better at it and learning to allow the emotions full sway and “go with the flow” into the unknown.

Now, this essay could have followed a million different paths, and so my first and final draft is one of many. And again, I had no idea where it was going or how it would end. And because I wrote this post from the heart, that knowledge flows effortlessly directly from my entity onto this “page” and into your mind. And because “all things snap together” under the watchful eye of “All That Is”, these words are yours as well for out of the myriad of probabilities, this was the one you chose to read.

And wow, in the space of 30 minutes I cranked out 1600 words, although some of it is cut and paste from my novel.

I can tell you, writing a novel does not go that fast. Not by a long shot. If I can put in 500 words and feel that they snap into my novel’s world as a whole, that is a good days work.

I have no itinerary whatsoever, but I think this is an important topic and since I got the “blood flowing” with my prior post, lets move onto more interesting ground before I take the rest of the day off and listen to an audiobook of my novel as I walk outside.

One of Seth’s goals is to open our inner eyes.

But what does that mean exactly?

Again, Seth is from the future, but that future exists now and he has reached sideways to his “lost brothers” to help them awaken to who they truly are…

(That’s us by the way).

First off I would say that Jane’s first egotistical contact with Seth was extraordinary, to put it mildly. Flowing out of her body and exploring the consciousness of her surroundings.

Holy smokes that’s crazy.

She is brave and courageous. That is my sense of it.

I don’t know if I could handle such an experience without “losing my shit” in the process, but she did just that and went with the flow for hours. That is one of many things I admire in Jane.

Our inner self knows exactly what we are capable of and what we are ready for and what we are not ready for.

And I suspect I am not ready for that kind of shenanigans.

And I have seen accounts from other members of this forum who have had extraordinary experiences.

Congratulations on your achievements, each of you.

Bravo!

You are the one percent of the one percent of humanity.

My skills lie mostly in other directions, and one of those skills is to be loud and obnoxious and, on occasion, cause people to worry for my sanity, for god knows I do on a daily basis. :)

And I am trying to voice the thoughts and feelings that arise as I think about the Seth material in these posts.

I suspect that is part of my “job” here.

And I want each of the members of this forum to become more and more aware of their daily experiences.

You are training yourself to handle more abilities, to acquire more skills to better express yourself. You are exactly where you need to be to make yourself better and so am I, for good or for ill.

Objects are not what you think they are, but you know this, or at least you’ve heard it a dozen times.

Objects are not “things outside of ourselves” but instead a part of our mental landscape projected out in front of us, moment by moment out of thin air, literally by our inner self (who is VERY capable obviously). And we can see these projections with our eyes and interpret them with our egotistical awareness.

But I am telling you that when you look at things, thoughts arise. Do NOT throw them aside like junk into the corner of your mental debris.

Instead you must become more aware of the thoughts and images that arise as you interact with your environment and with other people.

There are NO accidental thoughts.

Think about that for a moment.

Let’s say you are behind a car, like I was in the line at McDonalds a few minutes ago and you saw a license plate with the letters ZLD. What thoughts come to the surface from that? I instantly think of two things: Zelda and Zendaya. And I can follow each of those ideas with my associative processes. Zelda places me in a landscape with Link on his horse looking over the horizon and with Zendaya I see her hooded in the Odyssey providing advice to Odysseus. And I am simultaneously filled with joy with Link and vaguely darker thoughts from Nolan’s movie. And these impressions are my own and the object was TRANSMITTING knowledge, just as words do, only the transmissions are my thoughts, emotions and ideas that arise from it.

This is how Seth operates in his native environment… on steroids of course…

And that car was in front of me, not because the driver was there accidentally, but because the universe at all moments snaps together perfectly under the “watchful eye” of All That Is. And it allowed me to use ZLD as an example in this post and yes, that sounds crazy but that is my intuition of the matter.

And to a certain extent, that is a tiny example of how the inner senses work.

I will have more to say on this later, but the sun is shining outside and I want to go for a walk.

See… I’m not always grumpy… just mostly.

I say things that Seth would not say. Maybe I shouldn’t and that would broaden my reach, but I just don’t have the patience for it anymore.

And so I am here to tell you that Seth is the one and only real channeled wisdom on Earth in this place and time. It is quite literally knowledge from the distant future.

You can run from this fact.

You can hide from it for centuries if you choose.

You can turn away from my words in hot anger.

But that is the simple truth of the matter.

I have studied his words carefully and diligently for forty years and he is indeed the OG.

I know Seth likely thinks I should soften my tone, I can hear it in my thoughts, but I am at the helm of this identity in this place and time and I am tired of holding back.

I may not know a lot of things, I fully admit that. But I know one thing. I know Seth’s teachings because I try every day to find a way to practically understand how to apply them. I put all my philosophical skill points into him and “maxed it out” because I trust him implicitly.

When I write here, you sense the truth in my words, I know that you do.

And one of the secrets of the Seth material is that when you understand and speak truth, it comes from your entity.

I am not Seth. I am not channeling. Where are these “living speakers” that are supposed to be lending a helping hand? Where is Paul? The time grows nigh and they are silent and so in the meantime, I will strive to act as a poor man’s substitute to tell the truth of the matter as clearly as I can.

And the first truth you must embrace is that Jane Roberts was and is the real deal.

You made it this far!

Pat yourself on the back.

You found the courage to at least entertain the idea that channeling is real. And that is a HUGE leap of faith. Congratulate yourself on your success for it was very hard to do this. I know because I am a scientist and an atheist at heart but I was at least willing to listen to Jane Roberts and I am glad that I did. It quite literally changed the course of my life.

You found me. I don’t know how you did it. I did not put up a sign advertising this subreddit, but you found my words and you know the truth I speak is from the heart and so because of that my truth comes from inner reality. I will explain this further in a later post, but you understand that intuitively.

I am not a religious teacher. I am at times a caustic son of a bitch. But I speak that way because I am trying to cut through the guards you have posted at the gates of your inner garden and I wring my hands in frustration at times trying to help you break through the barriers you have created.

I refuse to be a part of a group that includes deluded people in positions of leadership and that is what I have seen in Seth meetups. One in a long line of disappointments for me regarding the Seth material. Many members of Seth communities (not this one) are confused, and I will not name names, but one in particular has inserted themselves into the middle of our Seth community and they are very delusional and I had the unfortunate pleasure of being alone with them on a drive for eight hours and they quite frankly scared me. And as soon as I could run away from that situation, I did, and I never looked back.

And so I walked away from that realizing that I would rather study in solitude than be a part of it, even though there were a handful of good people there. There was a young woman there and I knew her and her boyfriend understood Seth’s words. And when I walked away from that group, she ghosted me, and that’s perfectly fine. I wish her nothing but the best on her explorations with Seth’s words. She was a kind and patient person… but I am not.

And so I am here, in a position of “leadership” as the sole admin of this group and I refuse to allow the delusions I have seen in other groups to work their way into this place.

You are not trying hard enough. I know this very well.

Over twenty years ago I volunteered as a teacher in a popular Seth outlet to help people understand Seth’s wisdom and NOBODY FUCKING SHOWED UP. Yet another in a long line of disappointments with the Seth community.

I added exercises here as announcements and NOBODY participated.

You can do better than that.

You want wisdom to fall into your lap but you are not willing to put in the work.

And because of that, I am sorry to say, the truth will always elude you.

I know this is what Seth wants to say, but he holds his tongue, mostly, but he does at times become a harsh task master because he knows that if people would just put in the work, everything they want would be theirs.

Oh how you avoid that.

I know that you, sad to say, cannot hear me and you make all sorts of excuses for why I am wrong.

But I am not wrong, and in your heart, you know it.

I have tried, for instance, to explain the truth of our political situation to a friend that is a Republican and I learned from that exchange that you cannot convince a deluded person of anything they do not want to hear and we are no longer friends because I have little patience for ignorance and he was willfully ignorant.

I know you want what I want and we both are trying to get it in our own way:

Conscious and practical application of simultaneous existence.

You know you want that. I know you do, because I do too.

But how do we get it?

We must find our own way.

Nobody is coming to save us.

A living speaker is not coming.

Paul is not coming.

We are on our own.

Seth’s exercises do not work for us.

But that does not mean he does not speak truth so there must be another way.

And my intuitive sense of it, is that by writing these essays, day by day, I will indeed uncover a way to do it, for each essay leads me to a new question. And that is one of the secrets of the Seth material: Answering the questions that arise as you study it. And because I have Seth training, writing an essay on that next question, leads to another question. And so you can watch me climb the rungs of the ladder that eventually will lead us to the answers we seek.

I can tell you, for instance, that writing a novel is the closest you can get to being an entity. That, I have discovered, is a practical application of the Seth material. When I write, I construct people from my entirety and I create the props and the settings and then I watch and see how they strive to solve the heroic challenges I have set for them.

Sound familiar?

If you know Seth’s words, you can hear his truth in what I am saying. And because their journeys are cast into prose, it becomes eternal, like a dream spread across the hearts and minds of readers. And you’ve heard all of this before in Seth’s explanation of the entity in Seth Speaks.

I have thrown my consciousness literally to the far ends of time and space and probability and I have returned with things that take my breath away. And I will soon share them with you. And it is my job to not only explore the outer reaches of reality but to make it entertaining and if it is good enough, maybe, just maybe, I can leave people with what I really am striving for:

Hope.

And now, I return to my writing, and I return you to yourselves to the journeys that your hopes and dreams will lead you to if you would only put in the work…

If I had a single evening where I could sit with Seth and chat about one topic, it would be to hear about the wonders of the world he inhabits.

But I cannot do this, because Jane Roberts is “beyond my reach” in this place and this time and I do not entertain the “fantasy” that I can find them in the dream state for that would allow me to bring back “nuggets” of truth that I could then present as Seth’s words and he forbid that so that the integrity of his work would stand unaltered through the decades and the centuries to come.

Seth Two sent Seth as an emissary and that his knowledge was to help mankind for hundreds of years.

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Class Session 1969: “Seth Two: We sent him to you in your terms in some indescribably distant past. He entered your universe in a reality I find difficult to remember. He gave guidance to your kind for eons of your time. I do not sufficiently understand the experience in which you are presently involved, in your terms.”

Session 380: “I must help you, for you are brothers left behind. You are therefore challenges to me. Your progress is my challenge.”

Class Session 1971: “Now. What I am trying to do is to awaken within each of you knowledge, intuition, abilities that are a portion of your entire personality. Now, once these are awakened, you can use them and they become a part of the physical self that you know.”

Class Session 1970: “What you do not realize is that in other ways that you may not understand I am also graded on your progress and I am not doing very well on you. It is well known that these classes are held.”

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And so I can only give you my impression of Seth’s realm from my many years of reading.

First off, let me be frank. Channeling is HARD and it is a vocation that requires likely lifetimes of study to achieve. Jane Roberts is a speaker first and foremost and she clearly put in the work and in her first egotistical contact with Seth she was able to leave her body and flow through the consciousness of her surroundings and in that instant she pierced through the veil of the props that surrounded her and realized in that moment that everything is an idea construction. The Idea construction work she produced is primitive in a way, but it was a nice start before Seth took the reins so-to-speak.

And so I would ask you first to recognize the true difficulty in channeling. It is not some skill you idly achieve in a few weeks or months or years.

And yes, I hear your complaints piling up in my thoughts that I am wrong. Spare me. If I have learned anything from the last year of writing both here and on my first novel, it is that I must trust my knowledge of Seth and of myself. And I am tired of holding back my opinion in fear it will upset you.

And maybe, I am wrong, but I don’t think I am.

So I would ask you to be more discerning on what knowledge you allow into the garden of your egotistical wisdom, into your “hard earned knowledge.”

Just because channeling is real and you think it is “free and hip and in” you immediately jump to the conclusion that anyone who says they can channel must be able to do it. And those who channel do indeed believe they can channel, but what wisdom is it that they are espousing that Seth has not already said a dozen times. I think we all know the answer to that question is absolutely nothing.

Seth is OG and I challenge anyone who thinks I am wrong to present a single piece of wisdom from another channeler that is not already covered in the Seth material's thousands of sessions. I have never heard of it. For instance saying "everything is quantum" is vacuous and empty phrase and when I heard that as some "awe inspiring core belief" in a Seth meetup from some another channeler, it immediately raised my skepticism of them.

This is a forum SOLELY dedicated to Seth’s teachings and I am sick and tired and weary in my bones of hearing about other channelers and their greater wisdom. I don’t care about that material. Please stop telling me about it. I am a hard task master when it comes to Seth’s wisdom. This is my “area of expertise” so-to-speak and I no longer wish to neuter my opinions.

I have long been alone in my quest to understand Seth’s teachings and if I am the last man standing here in this subreddit, it means absolutely nothing to me for that is what the last forty years of reading his words have been like in a Christian dominated world. So I am very used to solitary reading confinement. I have been to online and in-person meetings and I watched their jaws dropped at the strange newcomer who ran circles around them as I was able to navigate Seth’s teaching with ease and present new questions to them they had never considered in their many years of reading. And I quickly realized that New Age nonsense was still alive and well in the Seth community and that some members of those groups were delusional, thinking for instance they were channeling Seth, or using "energy" in nonsensical ways or were Trump supporters and so I decided I didn't want to associate with them any longer and so I "dropped the mic" so-to-speak and never returned. I did reach out to one of them later, but she ghosted me. I don't blame her. She was good person. I hope she is doing well and when I think about her, it makes a little sad, but so be it. Just another in a long line of disappointment when it came to the Seth material.

But I keep going...

I have been to Jane’s home and to the Yale Sterling library like Gandalf delving the deep recesses of tomes for greater wisdom. And sometimes I feel like I am the only sane person on this planet. And sometimes… I think all of this work I do here on this subreddit is a waste of my time and effort and my wife often shakes her head at me as I continue to complain about it and she wonders why I bother since nobody is holding a gun to my head to continue.

But this subreddit, believe it or not, is not even close to my primary focus. It is simply a morning’s calisthenic for the true work which is writing a science fiction novel that cleverly includes Seth’s teachings, not to proselytize but to show the true potential of the inner senses in a fun, hopeful and fictional setting.

Consider this session snippet from Seth CD 6:

“But when we deal with reincarnation you will not automatically throw upon it old dogmas and old beliefs, and find excuses for the guilt that you have been taught to feel. It does you little good if you throw the concept of original sin out the window; if you recognize that much of Freud’s theories were nonsense; if you recognize that you are not at the mercy of the past in this life, and consider yourself emancipated and free and hip and in; and instead throw upon yourselves the idea of karma, as it is interpreted, and believe instead that you are at the mercy—at the mercy of—thirty centuries of a past, instead of thirty years! Where are you ahead? You have dug a grave of theory.“

So, do not accept everything just because it is channeled. For in the end, Seth’s words aren’t even important and I must admit, I don’t really need them anymore, but I continue to read them because the knowledge of simultaneous existence has not yet “fallen upon me like a raindrop on a blade of grass.”

And so I’ve grown to be patient and take life a day at a time and try my best to enjoy my time here on Earth, regardless of the lifeless people who currently run our world. But they will not always be in charge and I do believe we will either destroy ourselves (soon) or finally realize that all consciousness matters. And that true wisdom does not come from a book, but within ourselves. And I guarantee those in charge and those who follow them have closed their heart completely to inner wisdom and they are far beyond my reach to help them. And I strongly suspect that their lives are dark, whether they realize it or not, and they have all lost their way, for they believe that humanity can only be good if the rules of moral behavior are written in some worn-out tome and enforced by brute force. That is wrong thinking.

And so where is it that Seth lives?

What is it like to live in his realm?

I can tell you by watching him carefully in the ESP video I posted yesterday that he is indeed an old soul. I can see his confidence and his caring for each student in Jane’s class. I see him speak to them and they smile and they laugh and how amazing that would have been to be in that room.

And within his realm, there are billions of them and everyone there is wise and understands wholeheartedly that they form their own reality.

And they have each traveled from different places and many of them do not even understand what it is like to inhabit a single body, unable to change its form. There is a session where Seth mentions that his friends cannot believe that there is a place where beings cannot change their appearance to match their idea of themselves.

And so in Seth’s realm, they constantly change what they look like as their thoughts and emotions change. This is not an abstract statement. It is plain truth. And they recognize that their environment is not objective, but an extension of themselves and they can change it at will.

And Seth can at any time form a 14th century study and tunnel his awareness into a physical body and sit at his desk and look out at the countryside and enjoy it knowing full well it is all of his mental construction.

And so Seth is VERY capable. And so are each of his colleagues. They can construct entire worlds around them in an instant and take a form to enjoy it and yet this is not even close to describing the depth of his true multidimensional experience.

Seth is ancient and he has accumulated many skills and talents over his many lives both in physical and non-physical reality.

Yet, in our own “tiny” way, we also accumulate skills and talents. We are learning to be like Seth and it will take many centuries to even come close to their ability.

We are learning and we are growing and one day we will be able to meet another and in literally the blink of an eye travel through all of their simultaneous existence and know them and not lose ourselves in the myriad of images and experiences that bombard us.

So be glad you do not yet live in Seth’s realm, for you are not ready for it.

Not even close.

It was clear to me that my prior title for this post confused people thinking I was a newbie so I deleted it and re-added it since I cannot change the title of a post.

Just to be 100% clear, because I suspect many subscribers are unaware of this fact, I am the creator of this subreddit. I created it ten years ago after my wife died of brain cancer and I was looking for meaning in my life and I initially settled on Jane Roberts since she had been a heavy influence on me and I thought I could help others understand Seth's teachings.

I am not asking for pity, I just want you to understand the emotional core from which I created this place. After that I switched the VR development and in the last few years started posting here again and switched my focus to writing.

I do not know where our members come from, but many of them are long time Seth readers. I can tell in the quality of their responses and I can tell which ones have taken Seth's teaching to heart and which ones are still on the path to understanding. Yet many members are new and that is okay and because reddit had been "shittified" by its modern layout, the true content of this subreddit may be difficult to untangle. You can, by the way, still revert to the old style of reddit, which is what I use.

This subreddit is a venue to discuss Jane Roberts and Seth's teaching, and only that. Other mediums have no place here.

And it seems that people enjoy what I post here daily so I am considering converting some of my posts into a book.

Since I am the sole moderator I can see its traffic patterns and I can tell you first hand that when I don't post, the traffic falls off sharply.

I am well aware of other mediums and I am not interested in them in the slightest. I am highly skeptical of them and limit myself to Seth for I have read other mediums and they have brought nothing new to the table and I know these words upset folks, but that's how I see it after 40 years of reading Seth.

Jane Roberts was the real deal. This is clear. And there are over 2000 sessions to absorb. More knowledge than I could possibly understand in ten lifetimes.

And so, we need someone in our times to speak Seth's truths in modern nomenclature and I see this as a fun challenge.

Writing fiction is hard. Very, very hard, but for some reason, writing Seth posts for me are as easy as breathing and so it just makes sense that I consider writing a book about Seth in addition to fiction.

There will be no Seth quotes in that book so that I do not have to "fight" with the current copyright holder.

This is my attempt to "hold Seth's knowledge" and "pass it on to a new generation" and it will indeed be colored by my own values and perspectives.

The first step is to rework the "angry announcement post" that I added a few days ago into a prologue/introduction. So I have rewritten that post, smoothed out my caustic words and unlocked it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/janeroberts/comments/1vhz6ew/this_is_a_forum_dedicated_to_seth_and_jane_roberts/

I don't care to hear your complaints about how I am "so wrong" about other mediums, so understand that I will indeed delete those complaints if they arise because as an author, I do not enjoy constant complaints and your complaints are not helping. I am trying to lend a helping hand and get the word out so-to-speak because our world is in dire need of a fresh philosophy and Seth's words are as relevant as ever in these dark times.

What is hidden from the average Seth reader is Seth’s true age.

My sense of it is that Seth II (Seth’s mentor and “future” self) requires Seth to be humble when he is speaking with us. And Seth does not always succeed at this. I know I wouldn’t be humble if I was in his position and I suspect in the distant future this will be a problem that I will have to grapple with if I ever have to deal with younger souls, so I will speak on his behalf. Because if you’ve read many of my posts, you know that I am sometimes caustic and not so humble when it comes to the Seth material.

I don’t know a lot of things. I could either spread myself thin reading all sorts of philosophy from people alive on this planet or I could dive deep into one theory of reality that I truly believe in. And I believe in Seth and so I have swam the deep oceans of his knowledge to bring up treasures to the surface to post them here for you.

And one truth is that Seth is Ancient and VERY capable. He mentioned at least once that he could indeed force himself onto someone and make them do what he wants but he knows that is a bad idea because it violates consent. So he is patient and works his magic slowly.

However old and vast that you think he is, you are wrong.

For he is vaster and older and wiser than I can ever conceive of. And I have pondered his age for a long, long time.

Within the blink of an eye he can travel through all of your simultaneous existence. These are not idle words. THIS IS TRUTH. As I said yesterday in my rant about this being a forum dedicated to Jane Roberts and Seth, Seth speaks as plainly as he can.

It isn’t his words that are the problem. It is our personal beliefs.

All of our “hard earned knowledge” is surround by high stone walls and the guards that are posted at the gates are our core beliefs. And until we allow these guards to take their leave, his beliefs will never penetrate into the inner garden of our being.

I bet right now you are weighing my words against what you believe and only the ones that fit into your intellectual puzzle are allowed through. Yes, you know this is true.

As Seth would say “open your mind a mite further.”

Do not accept my words because I tell you to. Instead, become more aware of how you think. And what you allow in and what you reject and understand that it is your conscious mind trying to make sense of things.

And so again, I say, Seth is ancient. These are not idle words.

He quite literally existed before the formation of our planet. This is not a lie. It is not a fantasy. It is a truth.

And I believe him.

And so I trust him, and I have let his words into my inner garden. And he has never led me astray. Instead he has led me to the heart of myself and taught me to trust my instincts.

Now, I could dig out a handful of Seth quotes, but I don’t really need them. I often provide them for folks that do not have the luxury that I have, to be able to acquire all of the Seth and Jane Roberts books, even the obscure ones like Cezanne and William James.

I may be caustic at times, but it is because I care so much, so do not take my ill words as a reflection of who I am. I am not usually an ill-tempered soul, in fact I was lucky enough to get Banana Ball tickets and will be spending the afternoon at the Twins stadium having a few beers and having fun with my friends.

You are searching for answers and you are likely not a die-hard Seth reader such as myself, and that is perfectly okay. Unlike preachers and religious teachers, I am not so afraid of my own beliefs that I must justify them by forcing them onto you. I truly want you to find your own way and find a belief system that fits your temperament, and if the Seth material is not to your liking “go your way in peace” as Seth would say.

But I would ask you to not let your intellect run away with you.

Do not accept beliefs or stories because you feel that you must squeeze everything you read into some larger intellectual puzzle you hope to one day complete.

I would ask that you also listen to your heart. For that is true wisdom.

For instance, do you really believe you were forced onto this planet against your will? If you believe that, does your heart believe that? Is that what you want from a world you inhabit?

Not everything you see and hear will line up neatly to create one perfect, immaculate theory.

You must find something that also speaks to the joy of your being and when I hear people trying to include experiences they’ve read about where people think they were brought here against their will, it makes me sad.

That is a dark belief system indeed.

Take a moment and look outside at the squirrels and birds that sing under the sun and bask in the glory of their existence. Our world is good and is bountiful. It is humans and their greed and lack of empathy that has led us to today. But it doesn’t have to be that way.

The magic of the Earth is that it feeds its own and it flows effortlessly through the seasons.

Feel that warm glow that flows through you.

You are a part of the Earth. It is not a prison, unless you think it is, but you can always change your mind.

This is first and foremost a place dedicated to Seth and Jane Roberts. It is not a forum dedicated to any other philosophy or medium. I chose to set very specific rules here outlined in my wiki and I would ask you to follow them please. I have been to online and in-person meetups and saw “Seth Readers” espousing all sorts of shit and so I vowed to not allow that here.

I was in college when the New Age movement was at its height. I explored all sorts of things including crystals, palm reading and tarot. I smoked pot, dropped LSD blotter, read Edgar Cayce, Robert Monroe, Sanaya Roman to name a few and then finally I found Jane Roberts.

And as soon as I read Seth I knew…

I knew HE was the real deal. And so because of that, I suspect I have Speaker training even though I cannot remember it. I have to rediscover it, page by page, hour by hour.

The ancient saying goes like this: “Once a Speaker, Always a Speaker”

And so to remind myself of this fact, I have posted this phrase above my den’s door.

And so many who come here may be taking their first steps towards understanding what is actually going on with life on Earth. And you may be exploring many different avenues to arrive at an intellectual framework that can hold it all in.

And so I am here to tell you, after forty years of reading Seth—Jane Roberts was the real deal. All that other shit… I don’t know man… but I am highly skeptical… and I have no patience for it… and so I have forbidden posts by other “mediums”… yet these posts find their way through the cracks to arrive at my inbox. And as our membership grows, so do these stray posts that I have forbidden and it drove me to write this post out of exhaustion, anger and frustration.

I am first and foremost an intellectual. Goop and New Age thinking are fanciful nonsense and it has no place here. They may be fun to entertain, but that shit is not real.

I am a scientist and an atheist at heart and it took some doing for Jane to win me over. But she did and I’m glad she did.

But I do not have the extraordinary psychic skills that she had. God I wish I did, I really do. Then I could really help folks, but I do not. All I have are my thoughts and ultimately my words.

My pleas to a living speaker have gone unanswered because of course they did. It was a hail mary I must admit. This does not surprise me. They probably don’t even exist and if they do, they are not going to lift a single finger to help in any practical way. Fuck them if they exist. And I mean that wholeheartedly (yeah, I do not mince words).

But I am here. And I will try to help where they do not.

I saw the new spiderman movie last night and I saw myself reflected both in spiderman and the punisher, which surprised me since I hate seeing punisher stickers on the backs of trucks. I found myself empathizing with both of them simultaneously. And I suspect maybe we all do to some extent. And that is what is great about spiderman. I don’t know who wrote that movie, but they understood the assignment: Create hope, not despair. It was very well written and it deserves its praise.

And so, as always, we must sort our own shit out. I accept that as I did many years ago.

But I am here to tell you one thing with my words: Everything that you seek is spelled out, plain as day in Seth Speaks. The more I read it, the more I am convinced of this fact.

You don’t have to read any other books, Seth or otherwise.

You do not need to look anywhere else. It is all there, waiting for you.

And so I find myself in the same position as always. Trying to break through the lies and confusion that our world has told you to lead you to a better truth.

We are not on some prison planet.

We were not forced here by anyone.

We each chose to be here in this place and in this time because we each saw the potential in this planet’s graduates.

Jane was never taken over by some “rogue” spirit. That is confusion speaking.

Seth is quite literally a future self of Jane’s that reached backwards in time to lend a helping hand. But he didn’t reach backwards… that’s the thing… he reached sideways… because all time is now. And he exists in all of his grandeur now. And there are billions of entities like him. And he is ancient. And he is wise. And he is clever like a squirrel flying amidst the treetops kicking loose seeds of knowledge for us to find laying on the ground, if we would only pick them up and allow them to grow.

This is the beginning, middle and end.

The only thing stopping you from understanding how the world works is yourself.

I cannot help you. God knows I try. You must help yourself.

And the simple truth is that you are responsible for your own life. This is indeed a hard pill to swallow, but it is the truth none-the-less. And once you truly recognize this “simple” truth you are free to write your own script any way you want.

Now… that script may be hard to execute… maybe “impossible”… but… the power to change your life is indeed within you as you read these words.

It is not hidden from you. You know who you are. And you know what you want out of your life.

Maybe you’ve made mistakes up to this point. And that’s okay. We all do. God knows I have and I still do. But at any moment you can let those failures fall away and rise anew to be the self that you know you can be.

Life is nothing more than a “passion play seminar”. You are living simultaneous lives right now, but you will not be forced to live through 500 or 777 or 3000 lives. And when I hear that kinda shit, it just intensifies my skepticism of other “mediums” who in my honest opinion attempt to copy Seth’s teachings and in some cases profit by it. But I know Seth’s teachings well and you cannot fool me. The number of times I have read chapters 2 thru 4 of Seth Speaks over the years is well over a hundred times. And EVERY SINGLE TIME I hear something new. And I’ve come to realize that the only barrier to me truly understanding what he is saying is myself. And so I strive to climb the rungs of understanding so that I can better appreciate what he is saying.

And one day. One day, the knowledge will indeed “fall upon me like a raindrop on a blade of grass”. And then at that moment, when it arrives, no words will be needed for I will finally intuitively understand the nature of simultaneous existence and be able to travel freely within myself as Seth does.

I do not care if you unsubscribe from this subreddit in anger from my words. In fact, I expect it.

I do not have the patience for your complaints, so I have locked this thread down and converted it into an announcement.

If Seth considers himself to be a harsh task master to Jane and her classmates and he also considers his mentor Seth II to be a harsh task master, then I consider myself doubly so, for I do not have the patience for any of that bullshit.

There are many truths I would like to tell you that I have learned over the last forty years of reading and pondering Seth’s words.

You do not live in an objective world. I know you’ve heard this many times but this is not an abstract concept. Seth speaks truth as clearly as he can. And this fact is quite literally the truth. You reside within yourself, as does everyone. The physical world is quite literally an extension of yourself. Everything around you is a projection of your mind and the only real path to understanding is within you. And it is mental, not physical. Seth exists now in the same place that we are. He says it again. And again. And again. The only barrier is mental. It is not another physical dimension. It is a mental dimension. And that dimension is vast and simultaneous and all a part of the ever present now.

We are at the very beginning of the human race’s next evolution (if we don’t blow ourselves to smithereens). You chose to be here to witness it, to be a part of it. Embrace it. We can all do better. We do not have to live like this anymore. If we could just help ourselves, this planet would be a paradise.

Scientists are beginning to realize that something is very wrong. I watch their videos very carefully and they are indeed confused, and rightfully so. The universe in all directions appears to be dead. There appears to be zero life beyond our planet. This is called the Fermi Paradox. But the answer is simple: Consciousness on each planet forms its own camouflage structures and those structures are different from ours and until we develop our mental sciences we will never find them. The universe was quite cleverly constructed by All That Is so that the only way to leave our planet is through the development of the inner senses.

That is one truth of many I would tell you, but I suspect you cannot hear me because my words must be filtered through your belief system.

Why is it that Seth spent so much time trying to help people with their beliefs? It is because until he could clear away all of the debris of false beliefs, his words could not reach the inner recesses of their comprehension.

And so I post nuggets of truth that I find as I browse the Seth sessions.

Probably a fools errand.

But maybe… maybe it isn’t.

And many times I have considered just walking away and studying in solitude and have on occasion deleted many of my posts leaving many members in frustration.

For I recognize my words sound insane.

But I am not insane, of that I am sure.

And I am still here, caustic as the punisher, and helpful as spiderman...

trying to lend a helping hand in our corner of the universe

to those who can hear my words.