

Letter: What is it about European socialism that scares so many Americans?
sltrib.comSL Tribune, Public Forum: Let's ask chatGPT what's behind the mormon church's lawsuit against John Dehlin. Okay, let's not. It's obvious "trademark litigator" Oaks had some pet projects to work on after he took the helm in 2025.
sltrib.comDan McClellan (short video): Virginity is a social fiction. Interestingly, by noting the bible's treatment of women as property, McClellan has arrived at much the same place as Justin of DZ debates.
youtube.comPromise Backlund (short video): The Christian god will intervene to fix your air conditioning, find your car keys, and is keeping you alive to fulfill some divine purpose. You're special—try not to dwell on the hundreds of thousands that are dying from heat, thirst, and malnutrition.
youtube.comSL Tribune: Sunstone attendees honor Carol Lynn Pearson (1939-2026) with heartfelt sentiments in special session. Lindsay Hansen Park announced Pearson had died the day before the symposium opened. She gave a special memory about how Pearson had helped her get through a difficult time in her life.
sltrib.comAnalyzingMormonism: PSA, all "officially authorized mormon therapists" are required to hold to stated doctrinal positions. Also, they must sign an agreement that their session notes will be relayed back to the client's local bishop. This is unethical according to professional standards.
youtube.comDan McClellan: The bible endorses slavery—not one syllable in the bible is anti-slavery. Abolition required negotiation with the text using enlightenment values. (Request: next tell us about the other relic of barbarism, polygamy in the bible.)
youtube.comAnalyzingMormonism (short video): A quick summary of the ways girls are shunted onto the mommy track in the LDS church. Messages from old men—the patriarchs—reinforce the patriarchy. Falling birth rate says this heavy-handed programming is not going to work in the long run.
youtube.comNY Times: Utah drops from first to sixth in fertility rate. Reasons include (1) high starting point and (2) less belief/less adherence to messages given from LDS pulpit. Younger women are beginning to see they deserve as much of a chance at a life/career as men.
nytimes.comSL Tribune, front page feature: LDS Church's founding doctrines around Native Americans is fundamentally racist. No apology could be sufficient for 2 Nephi 5 and the rest—white equals delightsome.
sltrib.comSL Tribune, Sunday Religion Feature: William Clayton's journals will soon be published. Will this documentation convince polygamy deniers? Did a trip to Antarctica convince flat-earthers the world is an oblate spheroid? The faithful have already abandoned skepticism with literal belief in BoM.
sltrib.comSL Tribune, Public Forum: Why hasn't the LDS church filed legal briefs in the recent cases that have been about persecution and discrimination against religious minorities?
sltrib.comCatherine Lewis' Nauvoo-era memoir (1848) covers a lot of ground on p.19: Boggs assassination attempt; Helen Mar Kimball being tricked to marry Smith; "Law of Adoption" is a mafia-like code of obedience; top tier get first pick of wives; marry Native Americans to fulfill racist prophecy.
AnalyzingMormonism (short video): Catherine Lewis wrote a Nauvoo-period memoir (1848) that includes her rejecting the polygamy doctrines taught in 1843. An Elder's response, "Ought we not to receive everything Joseph saith?"
youtube.com"God is Not Great" book tour (2008): Christopher Hitchens vs. Douglas Wilson. Hitchens addresses Christian presupposition/circular reasoning at 1 hour 40 minutes. For the bible tells me so...
youtube.comWeekend/Virtual Meetup Thread
Here are some meetups that are on the radar, both physical and virtual:
Note: July the Fourth weekend. Double check that events planned for do not interfere, will still be held, etc.
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- Sunday, July 5, 10:00a MDT: Thrive, casual discussion online, jitsi platform
######Idaho
Sunday, July 5, 10:30a MDT: Idaho Falls, casual meetup at Panera Bread at 2820 South 25th Street E. verify
Sunday, July 5, 1:00p-3:00p MDT: Pocatello, casual meetup of "Spectrum Group" at Dude’s Public Market at 240 S Main.
######Utah
Saturday, July 4, 10:00a MDT: Orem, casual meetup at Grinders Coffee House at 43 W 800 N
Sunday, July 5, 10:00a MDT: Lehi, casual meetup at Margaret Wines Park, 100 E 600 N.
Sunday, July 5, 10:30a MDT: Provo, casual meetup at the Marriott Hotel at 101 West 100 North. Past meetups have been near the Starbucks inside, near the lobby.
Sunday, July 5, 11:00a-1:00p MDT: Provo, casual meetup of "Sunday School Dropouts" at Olive View Therapy at 491 N Freedom Blvd.
Sunday, July 5, 1:00p MDT: St. George, casual meetup of Southern Utah Post-Mormon Support Group at Switchpoint Community Resource Center located at 948 N. 1300 W.
Sunday, July 5, 1:00p MDT: Salt Lake Valley, casual meetup at Paris Baguette at 950 East Fort Union Blvd in Midvale.
######Wyoming
- Saturday, July 4, 10:00a MDT: Rock Springs, casual meetup at Starbucks at 118 Westland Way verify
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Beginnings of a FAQ about meetups:
- rules for publicizing a meetup on reddit platform
- what happens at these meetups?
- /u/solidified50 gave some general advice for starting a meetup and keeping it going.
- Meetups should be (mostly) free. Ordering coffee, similar minimum items from a menu excepted, but events that charge formal admission or an entry fee cannot be publicized here.
- Some meetups use a sign to give attendees an easy way to see the group and know which to join without too much embarrassment, etc.