Lessons learnt from the Battle of Long Tan

Today is the 60th Anniversary of the Battle of Long Tan.

An important battle to remember.

For the sacrifice of the soldiers from D Coy and 1 APC Sqn.

From all of the lessons learnt, here are a couple that I learnt from interviewing Dave Sabben and Harry Smith.

  1. Mobilisation can be done well. Great instructors, with strong experience and the facilities can provide hard training that forges civilians into very capable soldiers.

  2. Train hard, fight easy. Harry Smith pushed D Coy harder than the other companies. At first it was resented, and then the Coy started to realise that they were better. They needed that esprit de corps during the battle.

  3. Artillery. Good shooting goes without saying. On time and on target. But what really makes a difference is artillery logistics. A WO2 with Korea experience increased the number of rounds on position because he knew how hard it is to resupply bulk ammunition. He knew the lads would need it if they got into trouble. The 105s ended up firing over 3,000 rounds.

  4. Force Design. A number was agreed on for how many soldiers were to deploy to Vietnam. It was calculated quickly and without a lot of thought. The Government wouldn't allow even a temporary increase. That limited what could be done and how hard everyone had to work. And what was available to respond on that day.

  5. We TEWT for attack and defence at 3:1 ratios. The enemy doesn't.

Lest we forget.

reddit.com
u/4x4ing — 2 days ago
▲ 33 r/VietnamWar+1 crossposts

Lessons learnt from the Battle of Long Tan

Today is the 60th Anniversary of the Battle of Long Tan.

An important battle to remember.

For the sacrifice of the soldiers from D Coy and 1 APC Sqn.

For all of the lessons learnt. Here are a couple that I learnt from interviewing Dave Sabben and Harry Smith.

  1. Mobilisation can be done well. Great instructors, with strong experience and the facilities can provide hard training that forges civilians into very capable soldiers.

  2. Train hard, fight easy. Harry Smith pushed D Coy harder than the other companies. At first it was resented, and then the Coy started to realise that they were better. They needed that esprit de corps during the battle.

  3. Artillery. Good shooting goes without saying. On time and on target. But what really makes a difference is artillery logistics. A WO2 with Korea experience increased the number of rounds on position because he knew how hard it is to resupply bulk ammunition. He knew the lads would need it if they got into trouble. The 105s ended up firing over 3,000 rounds.

  4. Force Design. A number was agreed on for how many soldiers were to deploy to Vietnam. It is calculated quickly and without a lot of thought. The Government wouldn't allow even a temporary increase. That limited what could be done and how hard everyone had to work. And what was available to respond on that day.

  5. We TEWT for attack and defence at 3:1 ratios. The enemy doesn't.

Here are a series of interviews with Dave Sabben and Harry Smith that I was very privileged to do a few years ago. Well worth the listen. https://theprinciplesofwar.com/category/long-tan/

theprinciplesofwar.com
u/4x4ing — 2 days ago

Analysis of British Centre of Gravity in 1939

If the Centre of Gravity is the entity that possesses the inherent capability to achieve an objective or the desired end state, what was it in 1939 Great Britain? This video reviews the DIME concept with respect to Britain's prewar deterrence strategy and how the Grand Strategic means did not have the capability to deliver 'peace in our time'. Churchill, of course, would bring a different desired end state and that would require a very different Centre of Gravity.

youtube.com
u/4x4ing — 20 days ago
▲ 19 r/AusPol+2 crossposts

Is Australia ready to fight tonight? What is needed improve readiness and deterrence?

"The one thing that kept me up most at night as CJOPS was planning to fight with what we've got, because that's all you've got."

Retired LTGEN Greg Bilton served as Chief of Joint Operations in the Australian Defence Force.
He provides a frank assessment of Australian readiness for large-scale combat operations and what needs to be done to create a whole-of-nation approach to deterrence. He provides a frank assessment of the challenges ahead.

"The Chinese built eight nuclear submarines between 2023 and 2026. That's not secret. We're going to take 40 years."

youtu.be
u/4x4ing — 16 days ago

How do you defend an island nation when 40% of your trade flows through maritime chokepoints? Corbet and Australian Maritime Strategy - YouTube

Dr Mark Bailey discusses the challenges for the Australian maritime strategy given the current geopolitical situation.

youtu.be
u/4x4ing — 3 months ago