How do you think hazbin hotel would work if it was using aspects from eastern orthodoxy rather then dantes inferno, protestant views?
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How do you think hazbin hotel would work if it was using aspects from eastern orthodoxy rather then dantes inferno, protestant views?

(First off this isnt meant to be my mouth piece but a community discussion of a idea. Eastern Orthodoxy is often labeled as the first sect of Christianity. A open forum not my soap box but i will give my take for others to read and me to read others!)

To look at the Hazbin Hotel universe through the lens of Eastern Orthodoxy, the show itself would be considered completely upside down.

In Hazbin Hotel , the central problem is that nobody knows what the rules are for getting into Heaven, the angels commit a yearly genocide out of fear of a demonic uprising, and Charlie has to build a rehabilitation clinic to manually "fix" souls so they can sneak past a broken system.

If an Eastern Orthodox theologian watched Hazbin Hotel, they would point out that the show's entire concept of "heresy" and how the afterlife operates actually relies heavily on corrupted Western (Catholic/Protestant) ideas, and that an Orthodox version of the show would look completely different.

Charlie’s idea that a sinner can be redeemed and move from Hell to Heaven is treated by the high angels (like Sera and Adam) as a dangerous, impossible heresy. The show’s version of Heaven operates on a strict legalism. Once a "judgment panel" stamps your file "Hell," you are locked in a separate geographic torture chamber forever. Under this logic, Charlie trying to move a soul from Hell to Heaven breaks the cosmic law.

In Eastern Orthodoxy, Charlie’s plan isn't a heresy at all it's standard theology. The Orthodox Church explicitly teaches that the souls in the "intermediate state" after death can still grow closer to God, change their disposition, and find comfort through the prayers of the living. Orthodoxy does not view Hell as a locked cage, but as a state of mind. Therefore, the high angels treating redemption as a "heresy" would make the angels look like the true heretics who don't understand God's love.

Heaven and Hell as the Exact Same Room

The biggest structural change would be the animation of the world itself. In the show, Hell is a gritty, red, violent version of Los Angeles, while Heaven is a pristine, corporate, golden paradise.

In an Orthodox version, there would be no portal between Heaven and Hell because they would be the exact same space. Both the angels and the sinners would be standing in the exact same radiating, brilliant Light of God. To the "winners" (the saints), that Light feels like paradise. the "sinners" (the demons), that exact same Light feels like burning, suffocating heat because their souls are full of hate.

Charlie's Hotel wouldn't be trying to buy a bus ticket to a different city; the Hotel's job would be giving sinners "aloe vera" and spiritual medicine so their souls could learn to tolerate the light they are already standing in.

Sir Pentious's Redemption is Pure Orthodoxy. A massive moment in the show occurs when Sir Pentious sacrifices himself to save his friends, dies, and suddenly vanishes from Hell and materializes right in front of the Seraphim in Heaven. The angels are shocked because they didn't authorize it.

An Orthodox Christian would look at that scene and say, "Exactly. That is how it works." In Orthodoxy, salvation is not a legal checklist of rules you have to pass. It is about the transformation of the human heart. The second Sir Pentious truly gave up his ego, loved his friends, and committed an act of absolute, selfless love, his internal condition flipped from "Hell" to "Heaven". God's light stopped burning him and instantly welcomed him. The show presents this as a systemic glitch, but to the East, it is the fundamental law of the universe.

Finally, the show mixes up the names of angels. It portrays Seraphim (like Sera and Emily) as humanoid rulers sitting in an office making political decisions. In ancient Orthodox angelology (which follows the texts of Pseudo-Dionysius), the Seraphim are the highest order of angels. They don't run empires or host meetings; they are described as six-winged, burning creatures of pure fire who fly directly around the throne of God, shouting praises so loud the foundations of the universe shake. They are too holy and terrifying to care about demonic population control.

If Hazbin Hotel were written by an Eastern Orthodox writer, Charlie would be the ultimate hero of traditional faith, not a rebel. The villain wouldn't be "Heaven's rules," but rather the angels' own cold, legalistic egos that blinded them to the fact that God's mercy doesn't have a clock on it.

u/AdStandard6074 — 3 days ago

Chaz backlash requires verosika to come to his aid (allegedly)

Ok, I hope that hook of a title got you to click — now hear me out.

I was so excited to finally meet Cristina Vee, not just for her work in helluva boss, but for her entire anime career. So imagine my frustration when, less than two weeks before Animate Columbus, she cancels her appearance. What makes it even more suspicious? This is the only convention she has canceled all year. On top of that, she has given absolutely no explanation for why she dropped out.

Now, could it be illness? Absolutely — and if that's the case, there's no shame in that at all. But without any confirmation or statement from her, I think it's completely fair to be skeptical. So here is my theory, and exactly why I'm so frustrated.

FACT: The Shark Boy Summer video was a bait and switch, and the reason is simple — the promotional material that Vivienne and her team put out themselves. We reacted to what WE WERE SHOWN. Yet somehow, after the video underperformed, they turned around and blamed the fans for "rage baiting" themselves? No. You posted the promotional material. You set those expectations. You don't get to build the hype and then point fingers at the audience when it doesn't land the way you wanted.

Anyway, the video is simply not performing well compared to any of Spindlehorse's other shorts — and the "it's just a music video" excuse doesn't change that. The numbers speak for themselves. In fact, it seems like they're actively trying to force it, going so far as to quickly rent out a theater in LA on June 26th just to throw a promotional party for it.

Now here's where it gets interesting. We already know Verosika is connected to this situation, and given Spindlehorse's clear mishandling of how they promoted this short, my theory is this: they begged Cristina Vee to show up to this small, one-day LA event instead of honoring her three-day commitment to Animate Columbus — all in a desperate attempt to salvage a video that is already struggling.

Again, that is just my theory. But until there is an actual confirmed reason for why she canceled on fans less than two weeks out, I have every right to be frustrated.

Now who am i pissed at?

Cristina vee: No just disappointed because i have to drive 5 hours and stay at a hotel and not meet one of the biggest reasons for the trip.

Eric Schwartz: No hes a fine actor and voice artist and comedian! But Fk Chaz as a character! hes got skrappy doo vibes.

Viv: Extremely if this is the case!

Animate Columbus: If they knew more then 2 weeks ahead of time and kept promoting her! now i cant refund!

Shark boy summer: Just burn it down with a furry

Again AGAIN just skepticism

u/AdStandard6074 — 25 days ago
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Can men be soft and straight?

It seems even in this modern day even our community is divided on this topic.

Also happy pride and mens mental health!

EDIT: I was making this as a floor for this specific question. I guess it could associate also with men's mental health month

u/AdStandard6074 — 1 month ago

Hazbin Hotel is cowardice dressed up as courage

Hazbin Hotel and shows like it mock Christianity precisely because Christianity reformed itself into something that won't retaliate. They're exploiting the very tolerance and non-violence that Christianity developed, while calling it "brave" and "subversive."

If they had actual conviction, they'd make "Hazbin Hotel but Mohammad runs the redemption hotel in Jahannam." But they won't. Because that would get people killed. So instead they:

  • Pick the safe target (Christianity)
  • Claim they're "speaking truth to power"
  • Get funded by Amazon
  • Sell plushies at Hot Topic
  • Face zero real consequences

It reveals the hollowness of the "rebellion" narrative

Real artistic courage means risking something. Theo van Gogh made a film critical of Islam's treatment of women—he was murdered for it. Salman Rushdie wrote The Satanic Verses—he lived in hiding for decades and was eventually stabbed.

Vivziepop made cute demon characters sing about Heaven being unfair. She got a TV deal.

One of these things is not like the others.

Christianity changed to become more tolerant and less violent. The reward for that change? Getting relentlessly mocked by people who would never dare do the same to ideologies that didn't change.

It's like punishing good behavior. The religion that reformed gets treated as the acceptable punching bag, while the ones that maintained the sword get respectful distance out of fear.

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u/AdStandard6074 — 2 months ago

The Secret they don't want you to know of animation! Hazbin hotel show runners sold there soul but present themselves as indie common people that support equality.

So i got back from a panel of spindle horse and they always say how they do the animation. They never mention toon city or the cheap foreign labor they use to cut cost. Then if you count them out for it or there fans then these massive hypocrites defend sweatshop labor aslong as they get there product. The same people that preach equality and love. For a "indie" project they really did sell there soul and are fake like the people they deem toxic.

  • The 70% (Philippines): This represents the "brunt of the work" you mentioned. Studios like Toon City handle the frame-by-frame labor, which is the most time-consuming and least expensive part of the process.
  • The 20% (Australia): Princess Bento Studio in Melbourne provided significant animation services for Season 1, acting as a secondary hub between the US and the Philippines.
  • The 10% (USA): This is the high-level creative work. While crucial for the show's identity, it involves significantly fewer people and fewer hours of manual drawing than the overseas production.
u/AdStandard6074 — 2 months ago