u/Adaptasap123

Hey guys,
Just after some advice as ChatGPT tells me one thing and an extended family says another in regards to documents

Quick background

- grandmother is French citizen
- father born in Australia in 73’ as an Australian citizen
- father went to school in France and lived in France for a small period of childhood
- grandmother says dad is French citizen and is in the livret de famille book
- I have all documents of my grandmother and she has a consulate ID
- grandmother has directed me to all files in the consulate local to me as well!

The problem is what is required if anything from my dad to become citizen or if it’s just a matter of him registering me (I’m also 27)

In 95’ whilst residing in Australia, he received a letter from France being treated as a French national with compulsory national service obligations. “The November 1995 document concerned an application for a dispensation/exemption from French national service under Article L.38, likely because he was living in Australia and was also Australian.” Is what ChatGPT says

Then in 96’ received a follow up letter:

January 1996 document was an “ORDRE D’APPEL”—a formal call-up order. It instructed him to report for French national service

The letter asks him to explain whether he lived abroad etc in Australia to determine whether he had an exemption (which he did).

Now here’s the problem. I have contacted both the main consulate and the local. No one can seem to find him in the files, even with sending his details, the military letters etc and I’m wondering if it’s likely that he may be under my grandmothers file??? This is less than 50 years ago? I understand I could simply do the longer route of going to the consulate with an appointment, have him obtain his French National ID and renew a French passport which would allow me to then follow suite to be a French by descent, but I’m simply confused when my French grandmother confirmed he is French by citizenship, the military letters I have read and held in person, and yet the consulate cannot find him? Am I missing something?

Thank you for the help in advance, this is confusing.

I was born in 98’

Hey guys,

I am needing some help with this as I can’t wrap my head around whether rulings apply to me or not?

My late grandfather was born in Tunisia, he is of Italian descent (pure blood)

My grandfather had citizenship and went to war in the Italian military. He is however, a stolen child.

My grandparents came to Australia and became a citizen in 81’ however, after speaking to my grandmother yesterday, she tells me that he still held Italian citizenship even after they had naturalised in Australia.

My father was born in 73’ in Australia.

I understand the laws changed in 92’ which is how I’m confused that my grandfather was able to retain his Italian citizenship? Is this because he served in the military?

My grandmother told me she receives the war pension from Italy still.

I am wanting to honour my grandfather by becoming a dual citizen (I am born here in Australia in 98’). Don’t get me wrong, the Italian is strong in my grandfathers side, but I feel like the new article 3 laws made this impossible for me? My dad could get recognised (not naturalised) but I’m pretty sure with the research I have done, I cannot??

I found a house my grandfather lived in Italy, licenses etc.

Could anyone please guide me as I’m so lost with this.

EDIT: grandfather was born in 35’ or 36’ and his mother and father were Italian, which I also see the 1948 ruling would apply but to what extent?