I was one of the people affected by the minor issue in Los Angeles. My brother sister and cousin were all recognized and while I was waiting for my birth certificate typo to be amended, The minor issue dropped. I received this email this afternoon (unsolicited) from the Los Angeles consulate that they will be reviewing my case and to be patient but there’s nothing else I have to do right now. I am not busting out the Prosecco quite yet, but it’s chilling!!
🍾🇮🇹🍾🇮🇹🍾FORZA🍾🇮🇹🍾🇮🇹🍾

Gentile GIANNA ROSA CROSETTI,
Si fa seguito al preavviso di rigetto inviatoLe da questo Consolato Generale in data 29/07/2025. 
Con Sentenza n. 24045/2026, la Corte di Cassazione a Sezioni Unite, ha confermato la validità dell’interpretazione seguita prima dell’emanazione della Circolare del Min. Interno (n.43347/2024). I nati all'estero in Paesi iure soli conservano la cittadinanza italiana ai sensi dell'art. 7 della Legge 13 giugno 1912, n. 555.
Alla luce di tale sentenza, Le comunichiamo che la Sua istanza sarà riesaminata d’ufficio, senza che sia necessaria alcuna ulteriore iniziativa da parte Sua.
Si precisa, tuttavia, che, alla luce delle nuove indicazioni e degli adempimenti conseguenti alla citata pronuncia, si rende necessario prevedere un congruo periodo di tempo al fine di consentire al nostro Ufficio di procedere alla necessaria riorganizzazione delle attività e all’adeguamento delle relative procedure operative.
L’attuazione delle nuove procedure è suscettibile di determinare un significativo impatto sull’ordinaria operatività dell’Ufficio, anche in considerazione dell’attuale limitata disponibilità di risorse umane. Ne consegue che le relative attività potranno richiedere tempi ulteriori rispetto a quelli ordinariamente necessari.
Confidiamo pertanto nella Vostra comprensione e nella disponibilità a tenere conto delle suddette esigenze organizzative.
Distinti Saluti,

AI helped me organize my thoughts*

Looking for strategy advice on navigating a 1948 case involving a great-grandmother in light of the Tajani Decree / Law 74/2025 generational limits. My GGM was born in Cigliano (Vercelli/Piedmont) in 1901 and naturalized in the US in August 1947, well after my grandmother was born in 1939. This gives me a solid, unbroken 1948 maternal line, but because I am three generations down from my Italian-born ancestor, I am blocked by the administrative generational cap and need to file judicially in the Court of Turin (Tribunale Ordinario di Torino).

For anyone with active cases or working with an avvocato in Turin: How are judges there currently handling 1948 petitions through great-grandparents? Are they actively issuing stays pending the CJEU/Constitutional Court reviews on retroactivity, or proceeding based on acquired rights? Also, would you recommend gathering all certified/apostilled records to file and secure a Ruolo Generale (RG) number now, or waiting to see how the European courts rule? Appreciate any recent experiences or insights!

++ I used AI to write the text in English ++

Hi everyone,
I’m trying to understand how the new Italian citizenship rules apply to my daughter, and I would really appreciate some clarification from people who are familiar with the new law.
I have been an Italian citizen by birth (iure sanguinis) since birth. I also hold Dutch citizenship in addition to my Italian citizenship. My Italian citizenship was not acquired through naturalization, marriage, or under Article 14 of Law No. 91/1992.
My daughter, was born in Germany on August 5, 2020 and currently holds German citizenship. She was still a minor on May 24, 2025.
According to the information published by the Italian consulates, Article 4(1-bis)(b) of Law No. 91/1992 provides a route for minor children of an Italian citizen by birth (iure sanguinis) to acquire Italian citizenship through a formal declaration when citizenship is not automatically transmitted.
However, because my daughter was already born in 2020, I am particularly interested in the transitional provision under Article 1(1-ter) of Decree-Law No. 36/2025. This provision appears to provide a deadline of May 31, 2029 for declarations concerning children who were still minors on May 24, 2025.
So my main question is:
Can my daughter, who was born in 2020 and was still a minor on May 24, 2025, acquire Italian citizenship through this transitional provision by having the required declaration submitted by the parents before May 31, 2029?
Or does the transitional provision only apply to parents whose own iure sanguinis citizenship recognition procedure was already pending / had a qualifying appointment before March 27, 2025?
If the transitional provision does not apply to my daughter, I would really appreciate it if someone could explain which specific provision applies to her situation and what legal route is available for her to acquire Italian citizenship.
I am trying to avoid submitting the documents under the wrong procedure or using the wrong checklist.
I can document that I have been an Italian citizen by birth since birth with documents issued by the Comune, including a Certificato di Cittadinanza Italiana and a Copia conforme dell’Atto di Nascita.
I’m especially interested in hearing from anyone who has dealt with a similar situation: Italian parent by birth + dual citizenship + child born abroad before May 2025.
Thanks in advance for any help!

Hello all,

Congratulations to everybody with a minor issue case who’s now back in the running! I filed my case concurrently with my father all the way back in 2023 (Aug 2023) at the Los Angeles consulate, claiming through my GGGF. I received a pre-avviso di rigetto back in December 2025 before the Corte di Cassazione case, exclusively citing the minor issue, and responded within 10 days requesting that they suspend my case until the ruling.

My father and I never received an official rejection, so I’m assuming we’re still pending, but now because it’s officially been 3 years since my original appointment date I’m unsure if I should wait for recognition or contact the consulate through an avvocato requesting immediate evaluation. I haven’t used an attorney so far and was trying to avoid the cost, but if it’s necessary to avoid a frivolous rejection on other grounds (only discrepancy I’m aware of is my GGF who was born Giuseppe in New York and went by Joseph on all future documentation…) I’m willing to bite the bullet.

Thanks for any advice!

by Avv. Michele Vitale - italyget.com

A Quick Upfront Disclaimer on Intent:
I am an Italian attorney practicing citizenship and immigration law, but I am not posting this to solicit clients or sell legal services. In fact, I explicitly request that you please do NOT DM me or contact my office for consular reopening assistance. If, after reading this analysis, you feel you need legal representation, please hire your own trusted attorney or choose from the vetted practitioners listed in this subreddit's wiki directory.

My sole purpose in writing this post is to provide an objective, line-by-line legal teardown of what the newly published consular notice actually says under Italian administrative law (Law 241/1990), versus how it is currently being over-simplified on social media.

Following the landmark Supreme Court United Sections ruling (SSUU No. 24045/2026) and the Ministry of the Interior’s Circular Prot. 65050/2026, the Consulate General of Italy in Toronto published the first official diplomatic notice on August 13, 2026, outlining how it plans to handle backlogged Minor Issue files.

Across Reddit and Facebook, many applicants have started sending generic email to their consulate asking to reopen their cases.

However, a line-by-line legal examination of the Toronto Consular Notice under Italian administrative law (Law 241/1990) reveals that reopening a consular file is a complex procedure with serious hidden traps.

Here is a summary of the 4 major procedural pitfalls every applicant needs to understand before sending an informal email:

1. The "Undefined Queue" & The 24-to-36 Month Black Hole

The Toronto notice states that applications will be processed in chronological order starting from January 2024, while simultaneously citing the standard 24-month (730 days) and 36-month procedural windows, and announcing an absolute blackout on individual status inquiries.

• The Legal Flaw: Under Italian administrative law, statutory windows of 730 days (DPCM 33/2014) exist for ex novo genealogical investigations—not to grant consulates an additional 2 to 3 years to correct their own errors of law (autotutela doverosa).
• The DIY Trap: An informal email sent into this system has zero legal value of certified delivery under Italian law (unlike PEC under Art. 48 of D.Lgs. 82/2005 - CAD). You will be left in an unmonitored communication vacuum with no legal recourse.

2. Latent Discrepancies & The 10-Day Guillotine (Art. 10-bis)

When the Ministry issued Circular 43347 on October 3, 2024, consular officers frequently used the Minor Issue as an immediate shortcut to reject files without thoroughly checking the rest of the documentation.

• What Happens Upon Reopening? The consular officer is legally required to scrutinize every record in your chain for anglicized names (Giuseppe -> Joseph), date mismatches, and format issues (Certified Copy of Registration - Long Form).
• The 10-Day Trap: If they spot a discrepancy, they issue a formal Preavviso di Rigetto (Art. 10-bis, Law 241/1990). You have only 10 calendar days to submit formal rectifications. Obtaining an amended vital record or a declaratory judgment (One and the Same Court Order) in the US or Canada typically takes 6 to 12+ months. Failing to fix it in 10 days leads to a definitive denial on documentary grounds.

3. Shifting the Burden of Proof from Law to Fact

Right now, an applicant holds a rejection based on a pure point of law (Minor Issue), where the Supreme Court United Sections (SSUU 24045/2026) has already granted a 100% winning precedent.
If you trigger an un-audited reopening and receive a second rejection for record discrepancies, your dispute mutates into a contested factual deficiency, shifting the entire evidentiary burden onto you in any future court appeal in Italy.

4. Inability to Trigger Judicial Action (Art. 100 c.p.c.)

Citizenship iure sanguinis is a Diritto Soggettivo Perfetto under the jurisdiction of the Italian Civil Courts (Cass. SSUU No. 4466/2009).
However, State Attorneys (Avvocatura dello Stato) routinely get court appeals dismissed for lack of standing/immediate interest to act (carenza di interesse ad agire ex art. 100 c.p.c.) when applicants cannot prove that they formally put the consulate in default. A casual email provides zero proof of formal default.

The Professional Strategic Alternative

This is why experienced practitioners use a Structured Legal Brief (Memoria Giuridica di Autotutela) served via Certified Email (PEC) with a formal 30-day statutory notice (Diffida ad Adempiere):

1. Pre-Audits the documentation to resolve potential discrepancy traps before the consulate sees them;
2. Legally Binds the scope of review strictly to SSUU 24045 and Circular 65050;
3. Creates Timestamped Legal Proof of Default, providing the exact legal standing under Art. 100 c.p.c. to bypass multi-year consular backlogs and file directly in Italian Civil Court (Art. 281-decies c.p.c.) after 30 days.

Read the Full Teardown & Comparative Analysis:

I’ve published a comprehensive, clause-by-clause legal breakdown with the full comparative table on ItalyGet:

👉 Read the Full Analysis on ItalyGet.com

Breaking Update: Montreal & Chicago Consular Instructions

As I was finalizing this post, news broke that the Italian Consulates General in Montreal and Chicago have also just published their official instructions and re-evaluation request forms for Minor Issue cases.

Over the next few days, I will be publishing a dedicated follow-up analysis on my blog examining these newly released notices and conducting a full legal teardown of the specific reopening forms and templates they are proposing.

EDIT — Important Contextual Clarification regarding the Toronto Consulate:
Following some constructive discussions with members of this community, I want to highlight an important distinction regarding the Consulate General in Toronto:

Unlike several other consulates (particularly across the US and South America) that immediately issued formal denial letters when the October 2024 circular was published, Toronto took a significantly more constructive approach by suspending applications to protect them and keep them alive pending the Supreme Court's decision. Toronto's staff has historically shown a more collaborative relationship with the local diaspora, which deserves to be recognized.

That being said, the legal and procedural analysis outlined below remains 100% valid and applicable across the entire Italian consular network. The notice published by Toronto is grounded in general Italian administrative statutes (Law 241/1990, D.P.C.M. 33/2014, and the Digital Administration Code) that govern all public administrations. Whether an applicant is dealing with a resumed suspended file in Toronto or a formally rejected case in Chicago, Montreal, Los Angeles, or New York, the statutory rules—including the 10-day window under Art. 10-bis for record discrepancies and the legal status of uncertified communications—are universal.

The goal of this teardown is not to criticize individual consular posts, but to critically analyze the administrative framework and empower applicants across all jurisdictions to navigate these procedures with full legal awareness.

Disclaimer: This post is for informational and legal discussion purposes only and does not constitute formal legal advice. Every case must be evaluated on its specific documentary facts.

I applied in Houston many years ago but am eligible for minor issue re-evaluation now. I just looked at the Houston requirements and one thing has changed since I applied... They now seem to require applicants to gather the non renunciation documents from the relevant consulates. Back when I applied this was not a requirement and the consulate did this themselves. In my case I'd require these from Miami and Philadelphia. Yeah, I know.

I do not know if Houston will now make me gather these, but as a precaution it's something I'm considering doing. It's even possible Houston already has them however at the time of my rejection they stated they didn't receive them prior to the minor issue effective date so I can't be certain if they have received them since then, or at all.

If I were to request these myself, what is the process for doing so and what kind of timeline am I looking at to receive them?

Hi all,
My family had our citizenship appointments in September 2025. A couple of more distant relatives from the same line had theirs in November/December.
I was initially told recognition would take around 4–6 months, then 9 months, and the latest email (after chasing) said it would be within a year.

For those who have been through this process, do you think “within a year” means a year from my individual appointment, or are they likely referring to a year from the last appointment in our family line (i.e. November/December)?
The reason I’ve chased a few times is that I have an amazing work opportunity in Europe starting in October. The visa process for the country is quite long-winded, and although my company has already applied, delays are expected. I’m hoping to have my Italian citizenship recognised before then, as it would make things considerably easier.

My commune is very responsive and has said they can put me into AIRE very quickly once my citizenship is recognised. My plan would then be to fly out to the commune and apply for my Italian ID card, as I understand there can be quite a wait for a passport through the Italian consulate in London. At this stage, I mainly need confirmation of my citizenship for my immigration team.

Do you think that plan is feasible? And just out of curiosity does anyone know what is actually happening behind the scenes during the recognition stage that can make it take this long? Is each person assessed individually, or is the family line essentially processed together?

Any insight from people who have recently gone through London Jure Sanguinis recognition would be hugely appreciated. Thanks!

Some background: my father was born and raised in Italy. Came to the US as an adult, married my Italian American mom, they had me, and he naturalized two years AFTER my birth.

I originally requested an appt with the NY Consulate in 2022. I finally received my date for April 2026, but at that point, the minor issue was in play so I didn't confirm. Now its my understanding that the minor issue has been resolved, but I have to go to the back of the queue for the NY Consulate since I gave up my appointment :/ which is operating at a 5 year wait list.

SO, my new approach is to go the attorney route. I've had a number of calls already. The range in price is shocking - $12K, $9K, etc. I've searched on Reddit and various FB groups but a lot of the posts are for more complex cases.

Has anyone had something similar (Father --> you) and can share your cost, and law firm? I'd also like to include my two minor children. Thus far, the firms I've spoken with are charging the same price for my kids as they will for me. We have family and friends in my father's town, as well as a line of communication within the comune. I was hopeful that would make things easier...

THX for any input

Chicago, if it matters.

I know it's not necessary, but I want to try. The appointment is short, and by all accounts very standardized and straightforward, so I've been practicing with Anki for key terms related to the appointment and lots of duolingo, as well as practicing simulated appointments with AI. I've been working on my Italian for a few months but am still quite new, A1/A2 perhaps. I'm just worried they'll be annoyed with my bad Italian and switch to English. But I'd really like to try in Italian as much as I can - I don't get many opportunities to converse in Italian.

Seems like as long as they don't go off script or speak in a dialetto or have a very thick accent, I should be able to muddle through and understand what they're asking even if I don't understand perfectly. And since it's a passport appointment and not a citizenship appointment, I'm not as worried about communicating everything perfectly - I go in, give them my documents and photos, pay the fee, get my fingerprints taken, and hand them an envelope. Very standardized.

I think worst case, I just switch to English halfway through.

So, do you think I should try? Any advice?

Hey guys,

I am needing some help with this as I can’t wrap my head around whether rulings apply to me or not?

My late grandfather was born in Tunisia, he is of Italian descent (pure blood)

My grandfather had citizenship and went to war in the Italian military. He is however, a stolen child.

My grandparents came to Australia and became a citizen in 81’ however, after speaking to my grandmother yesterday, she tells me that he still held Italian citizenship even after they had naturalised in Australia.

My father was born in 73’ in Australia.

I understand the laws changed in 92’ which is how I’m confused that my grandfather was able to retain his Italian citizenship? Is this because he served in the military?

My grandmother told me she receives the war pension from Italy still.

I am wanting to honour my grandfather by becoming a dual citizen (I am born here in Australia in 98’). Don’t get me wrong, the Italian is strong in my grandfathers side, but I feel like the new article 3 laws made this impossible for me? My dad could get recognised (not naturalised) but I’m pretty sure with the research I have done, I cannot??

I found a house my grandfather lived in Italy, licenses etc.

Could anyone please guide me as I’m so lost with this.

EDIT: grandfather was born in 35’ or 36’ and his mother and father were Italian, which I also see the 1948 ruling would apply but to what extent?

I know there were some new changes to the laws recently so I wanted to ask about my situation.

My great grandparents and grandmother moved from Italy to the US when my grandmother was a young child in 1953. I believe my great-grandparents naturalized when my grandmother was still a child.
Sine her parents naturalized when she was a child and she was born in Italy, it is my understanding that she was naturalized when her parents were and completely lost her right to Italian citizenship. Is this understanding correct? If jure sanguinis is not possible, are there any other options to consider?
I am not very familiar with the laws so any clear explanations would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

What exactly is the consulate asking me to do? I was rejected for JM because my passport and my B1 cert are in my married name. Can I just get a court order? I don’t want to change my name back to my maiden name. Is that my only choice?!

“facendo seguito alla Sua email, La invito ad attenersi esclusivamente alle indicazioni già fornite nella mia precedente comunicazione.
Ai fini della ripresentazione della pratica, dovranno essere prodotti nuovamente soltanto i documenti per i quali è stata espressamente richiesta una correzione, integrazione o nuova emissione. Qualora un documento precedentemente presentato non sia stato specificamente indicato tra quelli da correggere o integrare, ciò significa che, allo stato, non sono state rilevate criticità in relazione a tale documento e non è pertanto necessario produrne una nuova versione.
Per quanto riguarda le generalità da utilizzare, in assenza di un formale provvedimento di cambiamento del cognome legalmente valido e riconoscibile ai fini dell’ordinamento italiano, dovrà utilizzare il cognome *** e non ***. La pratica di cittadinanza dovrà pertanto essere definita con le generalità risultanti dalla documentazione anagrafica pertinente e, conseguentemente, la cittadinanza verrà riconosciuta con il cognome ***. Tutti i documenti richiesti ai fini della pratica dovranno essere coerenti con tali generalità e non potranno riportare il cognome *** in luogo di ***.
Il fatto che il cognome *** sia stato utilizzato negli *** per un lungo periodo o che corrisponda al cognome acquisito socialmente a seguito del matrimonio non equivale, di per sé, a un formale cambiamento del cognome rilevante ai fini della presente procedura.
Pertanto, qualora il certificato B1 riporti il cognome *** anziché ***, dovrà rivolgersi direttamente all’ente che ha rilasciato la certificazione e richiedere l’emissione di un nuovo certificato recante il cognome *** e le generalità corrette. Come già precisato nella precedente comunicazione, in casi analoghi l’ente certificatore ha provveduto all’emissione di un nuovo certificato digitale con le generalità corrette.
La preghiamo pertanto di non modificare o ripresentare la documentazione che non è stata espressamente indicata come non conforme e di procedere esclusivamente alla correzione o integrazione dei documenti già segnalati.
Cordiali saluti,”

After 8 years, I can finally say I’m done.

I lost my Italian citizenship over a technicality, and that turned into years of lawyers, a warzone, court cases, paperwork, waiting, dead ends and chasing documents across different countries. At one point it even meant a trip to the archives of rural Eritrea looking for old family records.

Eventually, I won recognition again through a 1948 case.

And even right at the end, after emailing the consulate, getting my AIRE approved and sent to Rome, there was still some last-minute drama to deal with.

But it’s over. I’m recognized, I have my Italian passport again and so does my entire family who were depending on me to get it done and I did!

I can finally close this chapter.

A huuuge thank you to everyone on this subreddit. I got a lot of useful information here over the years, and people were always willing to answer my many questions. It genuinely helped.

Ironically, the journey was probably more interesting than the actual result…. finally holding the passport almost feels anticlimactic.

Still, very happy to finally be done. 🇮🇹

My daughters received this email from the NY Consulate in Jan. 2025. We didn’t respond to it. It was never followed up with an actual rejection. Can anyone confirm one way or another if this is an official preavviso di rigetto?

Dear Madam,
we are contacting you to inform that the Italian Ministry of the Interior, which is responsible for citizenship matters, following recent rulings by the Corte di Cassazione (the highest judiciary court in Italy, has issued new guidelines that must be applied when processing applications for the recognition of iure sanguinis citizenship (right of blood) (Circolare n.43347 dated October 3, 2024).
Following these new guidelines, that must be applied to all new or open/pending applications that have not been fully processed yet as of October 3rd 2024, regardless of the status of the application, date of the appointment or application submission date, should it be established that the child lost their Italian citizenship because their parent naturalized when they were still a minor, transmission of Italian citizenship is considered interrupted. Therefore, in order to be recognized, the applicant must prove that the US-born ancestor who had lost their Italian citizenship subsequently reacquired it. If they are unable to do so, the application will be rejected. Any submitted documentation will not be returned and will remain on file at this Consulate General.
In your case, you have to provide proof that (xxx) re-acquired the Italian citizenship and thus was able to transmit it onto the following generation.
Further details in the matter are available on the Consulate website.

Hi all! Just curious if anyone has heard news from their consulate regarding their applications? Good, bad, or indifferent, I'm wondering if the gears started turning again or they're still trying to get all the ducks in a row. I haven't, yet.

Sharing from a long journey after receiving my preavviso di rigetto. I just received an email of recognition. To summarize my prior post, I was part of the SF December cohort and received my preavviso in June because of the minor issue only. I will cross my fingers many of you will have success soon! Many thanks to u/chinacatlady and Guillermo Iso from ViaMonde who provided exceptional support in helping my family!

I need to provide official proof that I have legally been an Italian citizen since birth bc I have dual nationality and was born in my mum country and ofc recognised after born.
Since standard Italian birth certificates (Estratto di Nascita) usually doesn’t explicitly writing out the phrase "since birth" what is the best document to request and how to request it to my comune and get exactly what I need?
I know the document must state something as cittadino italiano dalla nascita and all my detail instead of actual date of recognition.
Also the core law is Art. 1 of Italian Law n. 91/1992, which establishes that a child of an Italian parent is a citizen by birth therefore is retroactive

* I have seen people in the same situation as mine that requested it but I didn’t had success in reach then to know exactly neither find examples online.

It's been 3 months since my post-decree case was suspended, I have talked about this here: https://www.reddit.com/r/juresanguinis/comments/1tvuw7s/my_post_dl_case_was_suspended/

A few weeks ago I spoke to my lawyer and she said that there's nothing we can do but wait for the judge - that is waiting the CC - that is waiting the European Union Court.

I don't know what to do. Waiting more up to 2 years for a maybe is disgusting. I'm hopeless because I see a lot of people getting recognized with strong evidence that they already were trying to get an appointment - in my case I have an email conversation with my consolato about getting one and also Prenotami screenshots before the decree.

I've asked AI if there is any mechanism that my lawyer could trigger to make the judge reconsider the suspension decision and the answer is yes but the result could be either bad or good in my case, so it depends.

I know I should trust my lawyer and blablabla but is a little bit hard to get her attention because she has a lot of cases to handle - and yes, she already have all evidences I mentioned. I just feel she could get deep into my evidences to give me a proper plan rather than saying "let's just wait on him that is waiting the CC that is waiting the CGUE" lol