I applied in LA Consulate a few years ago from GGF - GM - M - Me. I submitted homework just before people were getting denied for the minor issue. I got caught up in that and spoke with a lawyer from the recommended Cassazionisti list. We decided to take a different line through the 1948 route in the Italian courts. I’ve sent two payments by now and have signed a contract and POA. I started collecting docs for this line. During the time of gathering the 1948 documents, of course the minor issue and generational limits changes for my favor and I received that letter from the LA consulate saying my case would be re-reviewed. My lawyer recommended I still go through the courts but to switch my line back to the same one I used for my original consulate application.

Because of the timeline of this all and knowing they were deeply involved in arguing cases before the supreme court, I gave a lot of grace to this firm with their inattention to my specific case. I always faced extreme delays (weeks) in getting back to me and the responses are often for lack of a better term, lazy. Not answering my questions. Not providing any support. Etc.

One example of what I perceived as being lazy and unhelpful is the translations. It was only after I got “unofficial” translations of all my docs that they told me the translations needed to be sworn. This was only mentioned previously in the contract language, not through any conversations. OK, I guess we can chalk that up to a misunderstanding on my end but it really would have been nice if they mentioned this in conversation or email. But they then went on to say in the email (and this is a quote) “If you obtain sworn translations in the US, a further Apostille on each translation will be required. If you obtain them in Italy, the second Apostille is not needed.”

So… document -> apostille -> sworn translation -> apostille again

That seems very strange to me. I did not read that in this subs wiki. Naturally I want to avoid it. The offered to connect me with the translator their firm uses to have it done in Italy. I’ve been waiting almost an entire month for them to provide me the name and contact info. We’ve exchanged a few emails in this time, every time I ask. The receiving email on my end is nothing ever of consequence. I even received one email where they said they could not find my signed contract and POA and asked me to do it again. I told them the date and name of person who confirmed its receipt and they then located it.

Another area of laziness is I’ve offered several times to meet on zoom so we can just hash it all out and my request keeps getting ignored.

Basically this is supposed to be one of the better firms and I feel like I’m getting the terrible service. I’m concerned if I use their translator, it is going to be more of this. I’m debating pumping the breaks on this whole thing and waiting to see what happens with my consulate re-review, or potentially eating the lost money and getting a new lawyer.

Looking for some advice from folks who have succeeded here and are familiar with the legal process.

I kind of can't believe it.

After starting this ~4 years ago, applying 2.5 years ago, and the whole minor-issue-oops-jk-not-issue, I've finally been recognized.

Also wanted to confirm that if you're outside of Toronto and in Ontario, you can still apply through your local vice consulate (I've never been to the Toronto consulate even though they processed my application!). You cannot apply through them if you live in Toronto.

If you decide to apply through them please be kind and remember that they are working unpaid positions.

Hello everyone,

I always assumed that after the 2025 reform I was no longer eligible for JS, but thinking about it again, I'm wondering whether I might actually still be.

I'm from France and my situation may be less straightforward than a typical US or Canada case:

• Italian great-grandfather: born in Italy (~1900)
• Grandfather: born in Morocco (~1930), died young in Morocco
• Father: born in Algeria (then an integral part of France) to a French mother born in France
• Me: born in France

Could my claim go through my grandfather?

Born to an Italian father, my grandfather was automatically an Italian citizen by descent. As far as I know, he never acquired another citizenship: at the time of his birth, Morocco was under a French and Spanish protectorate, and Europeans living there usually kept their nationality (I have Moroccan documentation from after independence indicating his citizenship as Italian). He died in Morocco, young, after my father's birth.

My father, born to a French mother on French soil, is considered French at birth under French law, with no naturalization involved. His situation would be comparable to that of someone born in the US or Canada, for example.

After rereading the posts on the new rules, could I still be eligible even though my grandfather was born abroad (and not in Italy), provided he never acquired any other citizenship before his death?

Thanks in advance for any input or guidance !

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Hello everyone,

My post to have your feelings about certain things including the transmission of nationality to children in the future.

Given the weight of the diaspora, do you think there is a good chance that Italy in the medium term will decide to break the limits of generational transmission by taking inspiration from France, for example, with a window of 1 or 2 years after birth to declare children without which it could not obtain nationality?

As it stands, the current law will drastically reduce the number of Italian citizens and many parents or children of Italian citizens are likely to challenge the law in the future

Our attorney filed our case in early June (catania, not a 1948 case, sorry I don’t have more details it’s my spouses case), and we got assigned a judge three months ago but still don’t have a court date. I know things move slowly in Italy but is this normal?
How long did it take you to get a date assigned, and does anyone know roughly how far out they’re being assigned?
Thank you.

JS LA consulate no minor issue. Appointment 2022 homework 2025 Diffida sent in July no response.

I’m really getting frustrated. It’s way past the deadline for the LA consulate to respond to my application. I’m a very straightforward case and there should be no reason to reject my recognition. I was in process before the decree and before the recent court cases. I sent a Diffida no response.

Is it worth throwing more money at this by finding a lawyer who file a suit against the ministry? That could add years as well but I feel like I’m being completely ignored by the consulate. They are quoting a price of 5,000 euros but I realize that’s just the beginning

Is there any recourse? Any positive experiences with suing to get an action by the consulate? Will a legal proceeding speed up or slow down a decision on my application? Is there any effective way to get my application to move forward?

Please let me know if my mom qualifies for citizenship? Can I piggyback off her to obtain citizenship for myself? Thanks!

Line: GGF → GF → Mother → Me (Woman)

• GGF born 1907, Palermo, Sicily
  • Emigrated to the US in 1915
  • Married an Italian-American woman in 1935
• GF born June 28, 1941 (in the US)
• GGF naturalized as a US citizen in August 12, 1942 — so GF was already born, but still a minor (about 1 year old) at the time of GGF naturalization
• Mother born 1971
• I was born 1998

In an effort to try to keep the sub's feed clear, any discussion/questions related to DL36-L74/2025 and the suite of other proposed bills currently in Parliament will be contained in a weekly discussion post.

Click here to see all of the prior discussion posts.

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Background

On March 28, 2025, the Consiglio dei Ministri announced massive changes to JS, including imposing a generational limit and residency requirements (DL 36/2025). These changes to the law went into effect at 12am CET earlier that day.

An amended version of DL 36/2025 was signed into law on May 23, 2025 (legge no. 74/2025).

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Relevant Posts

• Masterpost of statements from avvocati
• 1948 Cases and DL36-L74

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Current Court Challenges

Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU/ECJ)

• DL36-L74 challenges:
  • Mantova and two Campobasso referrals:
    • Link to check case status
    • Relevant ECJ backgroun links (Micheletti, etc.)
  • Avellino (one referral): Avellino CJEU & CC Referral
  • Current Status:
    • Mantova/Campobasso: awaiting hearing date
    • Avellino: awaiting hearing date

Corte Costituzionale

• DL36-L74 constitutional challenges:
  • Torino - retroactivity, EU citizenship law, fairness
  • Mantova - within the context of "beneficio di legge" minor children: citizenship is a right from birth, deprivation of voting rights and legislative representation, etc.
  • Campobasso (two referrals) - political motives and procedural abuse
  • Avellino (two referrals) - retroactivity within the context of "beneficio di legge" minor children
    • First Avellino referral
    • Avellino CJEU & (Second) CC Referral
  • Current Status:
    • Torino case was unsuccessful and the current regime still stands
      • Full ruling (Italian and English)
      • Attorney reactions to Corte Costituzionale ruling 63/2026
    • Mantova/Campobasso: The Corte Costituzionale referred these 3 cases to the European Court of Justice on July 23, 2026
      • Megathread for news about the Corte Costituzionale referring the Mantova and Campobasso DL36/L74 questions to the CJEU
    • Avellino cases: awaiting hearing date(s)

Tribunale Amministrativo Regionale (TAR)

• DL36-L74 administrative challenges:
  • “Benefit of Law”: A Category Invented by circular 26185? The Lazio TAR Decides on November 12th
  • Current Status: Dismissed due to TAR not being the appropriate venue
    • Sentenza n. 4681/2026 was released on March 13, 2026

Corte di Cassazione

• Pre-DL minor issue cases:
  • Current Status: the minor issue was judicially overturned on July 26, 2026 and administratively overturned on August 10, 2026
    • Megathread for news about the minor issue being overturned
• Ministry Challenging Pre-Unification JS at the Cassazione
  • Current Status: hearing date set for October 29, 2026
• The First Section of the Corte Suprema di Cassazione Rules in Favor of Pre-DL ATQ Case!

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Parliamentary Proceedings

Senate

• Atto Senato n. 1683
  • This is the bill moving JS applications to a central office, which previously passed in the Chamber of Deputies as DDL 2369 (see here).
  • Current status: passed on January 14, 2026

No movement since April 2025:

• Atto Senato n. 98
• Atto Senato n. 295
• Atto Senato n. 752
• Atto Senato n. 919
• Atto Senato n. 1211
• Atto Senato n. 1450

Chamber of Deputies

• None at the moment

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FAQ

• If I submitted my application or filed my case before March 28, am I affected by DL36-L74/2025?
  • No. Your application/case will be evaluated by the law at the time of your submission/filing. Booking an appointment before March 28, 2025 and attending that same appointment after March 28, 2025 will also be evaluated under the old law.
• Can I qualify through a GGP/GGGP if my parent/grandparent gets recognized?
  • No. The law now requires that your Italian parent or grandparent must have been exclusively Italian when you were born (or when they died, if they died before you were born). So, if your parent or grandparent were recognized today, it wouldn’t help you because they weren’t exclusively Italian when you were born.
• Do I still qualify under the new law?
  • Check your eligibility with our Qualifinator 2.0 and please shoot us a modmail if you notice any bugs.
  • If you're wondering about your eligibility following the minor issue being overturned, check out Avv. Vitale's AVITAL tool.
• What are the major ongoing court cases? When are the hearings for these cases?
  • Please scroll up to "Current Court Challenges".

Hi everyone! :) I'm attempting to help my mom reacquire her citizenship (lost during emigration to Canada in 1975). Many thanks in advance for taking the time to share any suggestions or advice!

Quick Summary of My Mom's Situation:

• Born to Italian parents in Italy in 1965. They immigrated to Canada in 1975 and thus forfeited their citizenship. Now eligible for reacquisition (yay!)
• Looking for your help to understand how we might expedite the process of obtaining:
  • Applicant's (i.e. my mom's) Canadian naturalization (citizenship) certificate
  • Parents's (i.e. my mom's parents, both deceased) Canadian naturalization (citizenship) certificate or proof (I understand an ATIP request would be much quicker, but would it suffice in place of an official certificate?)
• Current wait times (~18 months) for Canadian naturalization certificate documentation surpass the reacquisition for citizenship application deadline (December 31, 2027).

Thanks so much,
Chiara

P.S. Little addendum: It's been a tough period for my family (within a week, we lost my mom's mom and another family member in unexpected/tragic circumstances) and I promised my mom that I would do everything possible to help her obtain her citizenship. It might sound silly, but it's become even more important to her as her family has dwindled. All to say, I'm open to any outlandish ideas (e.g. contacting my MP to expedite processing, social media advocacy, etc.) you might have about making this possible! Thank you again.

Chicago - GGF - GM - M - Me. Pre-DL, Not 1948, no minor issue.

I'm wrapping up my package for my November appointment and I am missing a fairly important document (parent's divorce certificate), and I have unresolved name discrepancies on my great grandparent's marriage certificate. The name discrepancies vary from anglicized first names to badly misspelled last names. The marriage certificate lists both mother's names as "Catherine" when one is the anglicized first name of one mother and the other appears to be a misunderstood version of the other mother's last name of Cattarello. The misspellings appear to be due to their heavy Italian accents, and attempts to make their Italian last name sound more "American" by mispronouncing it. Almost my entire family still mispronounces their last name but they spell it correctly. :(

I did not pursue an OATS because Chicago won't accept one. The church my great grandparents were married in burned and lost all of the original records, so I do not have the church record of the wedding. Only the one filed with the state/county. I do have the original marriage certificate, and an apostilled certified copy.

I'm still waiting for the county to send my parent's apostilled divorce certificate. I do have a copy of the judgement, just not the certificate.

Time is running out. If I don't manage to get the missing documents would it hurt me to send what I have and hope I can send the rest later?

Any suggestions for what else I can do about the name discrepancies?

Thanks!