Information and thoughts/Questions
Additional clarification: Part of my reason for posting was simply to share our current experience navigating this process and the differing interpretations/information we’ve been receiving while speaking with various firms/representatives during what seems to be a very unsettled and rapidly evolving legal situation.
We are absolutely not claiming that any route is guaranteed, settled law, or a “loophole” around the new rules — only sharing the feedback we personally received while trying to determine whether continuing document collection is even worthwhile at this stage, as well as to hear perspectives and feedback from others in this group who are also closely following these developments.
Edit for Clarification: :)
We are fully aware that under the new law, we do not qualify through the great-grandfather (GGF) or grandfather (GF) lines. Because my partner's father was born in the US and never lived in Italy, that male line is an absolute dead end for us now.
However, we are sharing the feedback we received from Case Assessment Representatives at two different law firms regarding a completely separate path:
- The GGM / 1948 Route: Because his great-grandmother (GGM) was born in Italy and passed away in 1920 without ever naturalizing, the firms told us we have a viable chance pursuing a 1948 Constitutional court case instead. We are currently getting the official documentation to be 100% sure both the GGM and GGF never naturalized, even though every record we have found so far points to that never happening.
- Additional help for case: In 1920, the GF's US birth certificate was officially transcribed into the Stato Civile registry of Militello in Val di Catania, Sicily, where he then lived for 15 years. It was mentioned that having a grandfather who was already a recognized citizen on paper, combined with the fact that we can show we began working on collecting documentation prior to the 2025 ruling, is helpful.
- To be clear- They aren't saying we would outright win (we understand this), but that these factors mean we at least have a valid case to present to the courts.
We know the courts are unpredictable right now and nothing is guaranteed, but we wanted to share this specific information we were given and get your thoughts on it! :)
Hello all- Sorry if this is long, but I want to make sure I provide all (most) of the information so it is clear :)
I (and my partner, since it is about his family) have spoken to a couple of attorney assistants and someone from Now citizens (I think that is the correct name) to try to gain some insight/info/ direction etc.. about whether we should pursue going through the courts or not.
Initially we were looking to go through my partners GGF and GF. We had started the process of gathering documents and even reached out via email to Italian Dual Citizenship (italiandualcitizenship.net) to ask about the process, what was needed, pricing etc... in 2024 but did not formally try to or make an appointment as we had not gathered everything prior to the new ruling in 2025-
For clarification- partners GGF was born and lived in Italy, came to the US on 3 different occasions from what we have found 1907, 1912, 1955 (unclear the length of time stayed each time)- GF was born in the US in 1918, GGM (Italian born-came to US end of 1912) passed in 1920, GGF had birth certificates for GF (and GF sister) sent to Italy, and recognized then took all 3 kids (GF brother Italian born) back to Italy in 1920. GF lived there until 1935 when he was 17 then he came back to the US-
We have now been told that we can likely go through the GGM (under the 1948 rule) since she was not able to naturalize prior to 1922, and she passed in 1920 (we are also locating CONE and A-files for GGF and GGM to be extra careful) but they did also mention that it is possible we could still go under the previous rule since we have time documented info (email and on family search/ancestry sites) showing we started the process back in 2024 (not definite, but helpful and may sway in the pre-law direction).
Just thought I would share this information- Thoughts? Also, I had to add flair with my post, so I just picked that one since none of the others really related