u/Adiyogi247

I'm a out of india theorist not ait but exposing double standards.

First let me clarify I'm not here for rage bait I'm proud hindu and have serious question. Reasons why i think vedas are not apaurusheya:-

1. Clearly there are autors associated with each mantra and what that what makes me extremely proud is that all sections of the society bramhanas , Kshatriyas vaishyas even Shudras and women contributed in vedas.

2.There are real historical events places mentioned in vedas if such universal book given by should not be place or time specific , we are again falling to the abrahamic trap by saying so

3. There is genuine curiousness and evolution in vedas like in ffinal mandalas of rigveda they are genuine questions like what is the goal of life why and how was this world formed, relation with god ... and slowly we can see the evolution by end of vedas ie upanishads they have clear answers for the questions they asked earlier and we should be proud of this that it's not like abrahamic religions where one truth, One prophet, One book , set of commandments rather there is a real evolution like science yes we get wrong correct ourselves and find new things , advaitha it the peak of hindu philosophy but not the end new things can be added if we find higher truths (though we are not even spec of upanishadic rishis if we find we could)

4. It's said rishis saw the mantras true there are many great mantras like gayatri , mrityinjay , .... but theres also a quest for higher truth theres also history its a mixture of everything it is like the treaty among bharatiyas giving picture of whole society philosophy, history, spirituality , science ... nit just a monotheistic commandment by god.

I have high respect for Arya samaj for what they have done(gharwapsi and all) but hearing them speaking of vedas really feels like some muslim or christian talking abt their book by calling vedas the end direct books given by god we are becoming like monotheists only our sanatan dharma is a ever evolving science in itself not a locked crap like abrahamics . (Even many ppl of ramakrishna ashram , iskon , even swami vivekananda called vedas apaurusheya)

Today we all hindus go to temples go to malls restaurants no one asks others caste eat from streets from hands of anyone just see weather he is hindu , I mahakumbh 66crore took bath in Ganga there are close to 100 crore hindus and so called uppercase is just 10-12 crore and all bathed in same Ganga no caste no discrimination . From vedas to mahabharata to recent times many stress on the fact that varna is work based there are literally 0 authentic verses saying varna is only birth based .Their obsession with manusmriti is incomparable in the same manusmriti they don't see the definition for who is a brahmin and what punishments does he get .99% of brahmins leave hindus 99% of brahmins also wouldn't have read manusmriti. And here are monsters portraying hinduism as casteist bringing literally searching for casteist news and most fake. I posted multiple times on the sub showing the truth asking them to find only one Verse that shows varna is only birth based and not work my posts were removed by mods and my account was deleted , These are the same ppl who talk abt blasphemy and freedom of speech . Now they are gonna come I comment section and blatantly mock bad mouth this is the level of these "logical atheists" ( I'm from the sc community I was never discriminated in life many preists allowed me into garbhagriha of temples I'm a proud hindu)(and no offence to real atheists like charvakas and hindu atheists )