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This isn’t much.. but..

This isn’t much.. but..

I’ll happily take any crumbs atp.

(This is Kaitani responding to a fan asking about a continuation until the last volume.)

u/AdministrationOnly17 — 4 days ago

This is where it all begins.

One thing I’ve always really loved about the way Kaitani wrote Nao’s character arc is just how gradually everything comes together. You can’t really pinpoint any exact moment when Nao starts changing. Was it when she saved Miura? Was it after Akiyama’s doubt speech? Was it when she secretly planted Kuma-chan in the briefcase? Or did it start in the very first round, when she first gave back all of her winnings to her scheming teacher?

It’s the way that an argument can be made for every single one of those moments. So to make my own argument, this moment of realization is the turning point to a much stronger Nao.

So far, she has slowly found her identity, who she is, what the Liar Game really is, and what goal she is there to accomplish. However, only when the line “I need to become less reliant” or “I really am a drag on the team..” hits, that’s when Nao transforms from a mostly passive commentator to a women of action.

Don’t be fooled by the negative connotations of that line, Anime-Onlys, this is where it really begins.

u/AdministrationOnly17 — 4 days ago

THE MUSIC!!!

I JUST watched this weeks episode, and HOLYYYYY CRAPP the music is AMAZINGGG!!

This is the first time that they’ve used the song from the first cour’s trailer, isn’t it? It did not disappoint!

The way the chordophones’ melody seamlessly transitions into wailing violins?? It felt like the bows were sliding directly over my heart strings.

Also the little lilting motifs towards the end? It strangely reminds me of a superhero theme/magic girl theme, and somehow that fits surprisingly well? Like this is them saving the day, bringing in hope right here!

They neeeeeeeeeed to release the OST once the seasons over! If there’s any theme that suits the AkiNao duo the most, it’s this one!

I’m sorry if this is a bit repetitive, but honestly, I don’t care. The music genuinely deserves its flowers every time. 💐❤️

(Also, did this sub just reach over 3k?)

u/AdministrationOnly17 — 6 days ago

[Fanart] Cat and Mouse

A little late to the trend, but I really wanted to make one anyways.

Now I need a Yokoya plush 😔

u/AdministrationOnly17 — 9 days ago

A thought I wanted to share

(very creative title, I know)

I was watching a storytime video last week about a college girl who was caught in a dangerous situation involving a creepy neighbor. Her story reminded me so much of Nao because she was also a college student living alone, and though her parents were both alive and healthy, she didn’t reach out to them for help because she thought that they had enough to worry about already. In another video, she also explained that her and some college friends got scammed yet she wasn’t able to get back on her feet because she was too scared to reach out for help.

I think I found the real life Nao in a way. They both grew up super sheltered, both were lonely, and in the end, none of the authorities stepped in. Except, beginning Nao had it even harder because the authorities were the perpetrators themselves.

So, I can’t imagine how many Nao’s there are out there in the world. Yes, Nao is realistic. If I was able to randomly stumble upon a Nao through Youtube, how many more similar stories out there that are untold (or worse, because they are unable to)?

I think the people who call Nao unrealistic are actually pretty naive themselves to think people like her don’t exist.

^(It’s pretty ironic because in later videos she had to respond to hate comments saying that she made up these stories.)

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u/AdministrationOnly17 — 9 days ago

[MANGA SPOILERS] One of the Most Underrated Arcs

Disclaimer: Spoilers for the second to last game!

>!Human Auction is so, so under-appreciated.!<

>!After 4 years or so, I’ve finally revisited this arc, and despite diving in cold, headfirst without rereading the build up tensions from previous rounds, I enjoyed it so, so much.!<

>!In terms of high iq plays, I understand why this might not be a highly rated arc to many fans because the strategies implemented were pretty straightforward. But in terms of character drama? Peak, absolute peak.!<

>!First, this round was absolutely my girl Nao’s era. I heavily disagree when people say that she got sidelined in this game just because she was physically taken out early from participating. In fact, it says a lot about how powerful of an influence she has over the other players when the direction of the entire game as well as the end result played into the palm of her hands, despite the little time she was given. Mind you, she wasn’t even able to communicate with Akiyama or the two other players she was relying on at the time—the author had to find some way to nerf her. It’s so satisfying to watch her move with the confidence and trust that she’s built, there were so many moments when she was told (by both Akiyama and mainly Yokoya) how idealistic she was being, but she kept searching for paths that others didn’t see. There’s this one moment where Yokoya points out a fatal flaw, and she was already in a situation where there was absolutely nothing she could do. Still, she didn’t fall into despair, continued searching, and looked at it in an angle that Yokoya didn’t anticipate. The ability to keep going in dire situations is one of the best lessons Nao’s learned from Akiyama, in my opinion.!<

>!(Fun fact: During this arc, I’ve given her the nickname “Truth Princess.” It’s a little corny, I know, but I thought it was fitting because she’s playing the “Truth Game.” It’s sad that this was the second to last game in the series because Nao still lacks a bit of foresight and errs when executing her plans. If given a few more games, considering how fast she learns, I’d definitely crown her as “Queen” instead.)!<

>!Second, Kaneko is such an underrated side character. She is the story’s physical embodiment of Nao’s good karma coming back to her. This is where Fukunaga, a character that Nao had slowly been turning towards morality from almost the very beginning, comes in. Kaneko experienced total deceit and domination through Yokoya and could’ve easily become jaded as the rest, but because of Fukunaga, she was able to maintain her “goodness”. It’s so eye opening to see the second “villain” of the story not only turn to the good side, but also inspire others to do the same as well. Though Nao’s actions and good deeds may seem more passive and has less definitive “gotcha!” moments than Akiyama’s plans, it ultimately ties back into the story’s themes about the prevailing nature of trust. Alas, this is the last time we see Kaneko, but in the little screen time she was give, she’s made a big impact on both the story and the thematic message.!<

>!That said, justice for Fukunaga!! I still can’t believe she wasn’t able to show up in some way, but I guess her absence is symbolic in itself. (I had tears in my eyes when Kaneko described Fuku’s last moments, truly such an amazing character with a satisfying enough redemption arc.)!<

>!Third, the auction itself was such a fun, emotional rollercoaster. This one speaks for itself, so I won’t yap too much LOL. The “fight” between Yokoya and Akiyama, Nao and Yokoya just bickering in a room with two other randos (I’m officially a Naokoya shipper after hearing Natsuki Hanae), of course the dealers being as dramatic as possible, watching the NPCs absolutely fumble with their public speaking skills, etc etc. Up above, I’ve included a picture of my favorite panel from this arc. It’s just so heartwarming to see AkiNao’s bond shine through in the cesspool of fear and self-interest.!<

>!(Also, Nao thinking that no one would bid on her made me want to give her a hug.)!<

>!Im curious to hear your thoughts! I was surprised to see that there wasn’t much discussion about this arc, even on past posts in this subreddit. I think I’m going to reread the Pandemic Game next, which I remember rating as THE most underrated arc when I first finished the manga.!<

>!TLDR: Human Auction is great, and you should go reread it!!!< >!😡!<

Side Note: Has any other manga readers held themselves back from rereading the manga until this season’s end? I’ve personally held back from the featured rounds because I really wanted the anime to feel like a separate experience and pretend to be like an anime-only lol. It’s been super fun because I’ve been so surprised by different plot points since I’ve literally forgotten all the strategies up until this point (I only clearly remembered the first round).

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u/AdministrationOnly17 — 1 month ago

[Fanart] Kanzaki Nao

Needless to say, if Kanzaki Nao had to be a playing card, then she would be the queen of hearts.

(I’ve been pondering—if she were a chess piece, what would she be? I think in Akiyama’s eyes, she’d be the King because if she lost then the entire game would be over for him. She is his board’s centerpiece. However, for Nao, I think she’d think herself as the pawn. Not A pawn but THE pawn, the one that’s brave enough to go into enemy territory and transform into any piece needed for her side to win.)

Anyways, I hope you like it 😅

u/AdministrationOnly17 — 1 month ago

Some Random Thoughts and Hopes on TLG

[Disclaimer: Obviously, major spoilers who haven’t read the end of the manga.]

In about a week, the 6th chapter of “The Last Game” will be released.

There’s been a lot of rumors that it will be the last one, so I cannot help but to feel sad and disheartened. After so many years, the announcement of a sequel left my heart soaring with hope that we’d get to see many things, but if the next chapter is really the last chapter, then there’s probably only room for the conclusion of the game, and that would be it. For me, that feels disappointing because it almost feels like the ending of the original manga all over again.

>!In my opinion, I feel like things are only starting to pick up in the 5th chapter, and more truths are being revealed. It’s really hard to see this game being wrapped up in just one chapter, especially since I have a feeling there needs to be a lot of room left to explain the shadow organization as well as how exactly the LG players will “win” over them, whether ideologically or in reality. After all, we’re talking about an organization that has been there for decades, if not almost a century (?) It’s not easily dismantled in three days I feel, if they’re that powerful. I’ve read theories, and it’s not like I don’t agree with them, but no matter what potential solutions there are, it will feel really rushed to conclude in one chapter.!<

>!In addition, I’ve been hoping that Nao in some way will play a big part in this. I guess I’m less worried about this part because of how active she is and the chapters clearly pointing her in a direction (with Akiyama making her a key part of his plan). Though, I hope that she is even more impactful in some type of way. My favorite parts of Liar Game have always been the moments when Nao acts completely on her own, finds success, and completely surprises the audience as well as Akiyama, Yokoya, etc. The first chapter already gives her a little moment (which was awesome to see right off the bat), but I can’t help but wish for more.!<

>!There’s also just so many little things that I felt like are loose ends that need to be tied up. For example, Akiyama holding a broom? It’s not like Yokoya is making him clean his summer house for renting out the place for 3 days (unless-?)!<

>!And, on a little side note, I wish there were scenes that showed us directly how much Liar Game has affected how they go about their daily lives. One of my favorite parts was when we get to see a glimpse of Nao doubting and making observations of her professor that led to her classmates realize her growth. I wish that type of scene with Akiyama, Fukunaga, and Yokoya as well.!<

>!I’ve always known that it was going to be a short sequel, so I guess expecting to see all my favorite aspects of Liar Game condensed into one was always a bit of a stretch. Still, I could not help but hope.!<

>!Either way, I’m extremely grateful to see these characters again. They look so much happier and relaxed, it makes me feel relieved.!<

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u/AdministrationOnly17 — 1 month ago

Soo… What do we all think of Yokoya’s Eng voice?

Title.

Personally, I think it suits him very well. There are some times when the edges of his voice wavers ever so slightly, and I think it kinda reveals his underlying psychotic nature. I really do like it! Props to the voice actor, I have yet to learn his name. I feel that I would’ve like it more if I had heard it before the Japanese one since it’s a lot closer to my og manga interpretation, but the JP one is wayyyyy too addicting (I’ve replayed his little “mieta mieta” part too many times by now >w<)

Anyways! Onto the other parts—Wow! Kikuzawa’s va really popped off this episode. I didn’t think I could dislike him more, but the eng dub really made me want to deliver 100 Fuku tornado kicks. I think it’s always a good thing whenever an actor makes me feel even more strongly about a character. The smugness is done perfectly.

Lastly, I really enjoyed Akiyama’s VA this time especially. When it suddenly flicked to that gray screen where Akiyama was directly calling out Kiku, I was like “oh shi—“ The Eng Dub’s deeper voice really makes these moments so much more menacing/intimidating! Big dub to the dub team once again :D

(sorry the post talks more than the title, I wanted to include all my thoughts so I didn’t spam posts)

u/AdministrationOnly17 — 1 month ago

My Challenge to New Fans

Since the strategy-packed Days 2 and 3 of the Contraband Game are coming up, I wanted to say something that I’ve been holding back for a little while.

Please, please, please, try your best to engage with the games’ rules and the strategies that each team implements. More specifically, think about the how and why rather than just what happens.

This comes from a manga reader who had access to all 201 chapters and blew through it in 3 days. It was a fun ride, but in retrospect, I truly regret not sitting with each chapter and thinking about things more carefully. “How did Akiyama find this out? Why did Yokoya make this move? Why did Kaitani construct the games this way, and what loopholes can be exploited?”

This is a no brainer, but in stories where psychological games are the focal point, they are best enjoyed through an active and engaged mind. To anime-onlys, I understand that anime is a place where people escape from real life, and so it’s easy to watch it passively as a place for relaxation. To new manga readers, I personally know how tempting it is to just click “next” and get that instant rush of satisfaction by finding out what happens next. However, I think you’ll extract a lot more value out of this series if you really sit down with it and allow it to work your mind. In hindsight, i’s easy to look back on earlier strategies and think they are simple, but that’s mostly because of confirmation bias. My motto is that you can only truly appreciate how hard something is if you’ve tried it yourself.

[spoilers for ep 13!!!]

>!This post also comes from a place of slight frustration. I’ve been keeping up with how people have been reacting towards the reveal of Kikuzawa’s betrayal and it’s been… annoying, to say the least. The problem is that, we as the audience, are in the meta, we know that Liar Game is a story, and so along with it comes for the need of plot twists and drama. It’s not hard to predict that there was a betrayal coming up, especially when a side character like Kikuzawa suddenly gets more screen time. The question is: how will the players inside the game find out? What clues and hints give it away? How will they come up with substantial evidence to support their theory? These questions Akiyama answers for us clearly, but online, I didn’t hear anything close to his answer about adding up the math of the 290 million, as well as why Kiku suddenly stopped smuggling money. Yet, I hear many downplaying the strategies, saying that this was “too easy” to figure out and that Liar Game has become predictable. Sure, it’s easy to run with a trope and find success, but can you really credit your intelligence when you didn’t do the work? Nobody is questioning the “how”, and that’s frustrating because that is really where Liar Game shine!<s.

Ultimately, take my advice with a grain of salt. The media is in your hands, and you can decide however you want to consume it. I just wish more would truly appreciate how, for a lack of a better word, GOAT-ed Liar Game is. It’s okay, if you aren’t able to predict every strategy, that’s the entertainment value this franchise provides. While the manga was still airing, Shinobu Kaitani himself took many long hiatuses in order to write the next arc, and so I think some appreciation and gratitude is in order for his effort in writing this masterpiece.

Edit: Of course , I know the people who probably need to hear this the most isn’t on this subreddit, but I still wanted to put the sentiment out there.

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u/AdministrationOnly17 — 1 month ago

Holy animation upgrade..

Disclaimer: Rant-ish

Sorry if this is super repetitive, ppl probably have already reiterated this a thousand times already, but HOLY CRAP WHERE WAS THIS IN THE FIRST COUR (just watched ep 14, late again 😭)

Ofc I know the reasoning behind it all (26 episodes is A LOT, and adapting such an old manga was already a financial risk so I knew they didn’t have much a budget and the one they already had needed to be spread thin with so many episodes), and it’s really more of a rhetorical question but omg I would’ve loved to see this quality in the first few rounds. Either way, I would’ve been deeply grateful to even get an anime after so many years but still… wow… this just made my week, if not my entire month.

I’m so, so happy. I need to rewatch the episode (happily) because I just kept giggling and kicking my feet without actually paying attention to what Akiyama was saying towards the end.

What a massive dub.

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u/AdministrationOnly17 — 1 month ago

…his voice

It’s peak. It’s perfection.

I love the slightly effeminate inflections. I never heard this type of voice in my head while reading the manga, but my goodness does it suit him… (>!it makes really curious to hear how he sounds like when he crashes out!<)

It’s so weird because I just finished Witch Hat Atelier and didn’t think too much about Qifrey’s voice, but Yokoya’s voice alone is making me question my morals— hehe

u/AdministrationOnly17 — 2 months ago

Fukunaga

Forgot the necklace— oops—

Small, Completely Unrelated Ramble:
>!I’m going to be entirely honest, I haven’t watched this!< >!weeks!< >!episode and I’m so, so sad. I feel like a fake fan (I’m being dramatic) but also I’m super scared to watch it because I saw a reddit post something about “bad reviews” and I’m so confused because this is where the story is supposed to “get good.” (I also haven’t been on reddit lately so this concern could be entirely unfounded) Ok sorry for that, now I will go watch the episode and decide for myself :P , bye!<

Edit:
>!Ok who am I kidding, this episode was PEAK!<

u/AdministrationOnly17 — 2 months ago

Some thoughts I had reading the last chapter.

***Disclaimer 1: Major manga’s ending spoilers!!***
Disclaimer 2: I am not supporting any political ideology in this post.

I was skimming the last chapter of the manga, and after seeing the first panel above, I think I have reason to believe that Kaitani intended the original Liar Game novel to be set in late 1980s and early 1990s Communist China.

If you don’t know, this single panel is almost an identical copy to the tank man at Tiananmen Square. It’s an iconic image that represented the spiritual revolution for democracy during the one of the most oppressive as well redefining eras of the Communist Party, as there was a big shift to open the political system from the deceased, former party leader.

The rest of the page explains that this country was very corrupt, with the rich owning most of the wealth while the poor suffered. It also notes that the elites “literally reigned with fear.” This is adjacent to how Communist China was as any all the political leaders held the most wealth while the masses suffered in poverty. Any political opponents were executed or isolated, and the law was strict and severe with its punishments. Additionally, on a later page, Artier explains that the reason why Vivy’s final, third volume was never published because it never passed the censorship inspection. The filtering of media through the government is something very present in China today, and even more so back then.

Lastly, this is mostly speculation on my part, but the outline of Vivy depicted in the second panel below looks Asian to me, which means that it significantly narrows down the authoritarian countries to the ones in Asia at the period. (Though I understand mangas draw based on stylistic decisions.)

This might’ve been very obvious to someone else on their first read, but I guess I never gave it much thought before.

OK so here is where I go on a little tangent on political theory. Liar Game’s message is clear: act as individuals with greed and selfishness and the system will profit off of you. The enemy is not the other players, but the game-makers themselves. This falls entirely in line with anticapitalist critique, which says that the system is inherently exploitative and alienating. Like a capitalist society, in Liar Game there will always be one winner and many, many losers. Coincidentally, the very core of Communism is anticapitalist.

(Now before I dive in deeper, I want to say that I’ve haven’t read Marx’s Communist Manifesto, and everything I’ve learned is from history class or things I picked up on.)

Communism begins its theory that class war happens when the property owners (burgeoise) exploit the working class to the point that it leads to a bloody revolution. Similarly, the “property” in Liar Game is the game money, the property owners are the dealers and game-makers, and the players are the working class. The “bloody” revolution is one started by Nao, and ends with the conclusion of the four kingdoms game (the last one). The second step of Communist takeover is overthrowing the previous regime, with a temporary new one taking all of the resources. Lastly, the third step asks for the temporary leader to give up all power and redistribute everything back into society so communities can live equally. The funny thing is, in real life, no country has ever been able to reach the third step because often, the new leader who led the bloody revolution keeps all the power to themselves. Not even the referenced“Communist” China is able to because it veers closer to socialism and is only Communist in name (like many countries). But Liar Game is able to.

Starting from the very first round, I’d argue that the combination of Nao and Akiyama traces the three steps perfectly. They play the game, takes all the resources temporarily (second step) which effectively takes away the power that the dealers have over the players, and redistributes it back to the players equally (third step). Nao’s overall philosophy of banding together and uniting as one to fight against the system is reminiscent of the bloody revolution’s philosophy, while Akiyama is the brains behind the operation.

Now, am I saying that Kaitani is trying to promote Communism? Definitely not. While it’s undeniably anticapitalist, nowhere in the manga does it try to expand Nao’s philosophy to the level of a nation. Perhaps the reason why the steps are so applicable in Liar Game is because it is in a controlled setting with the top players being an unshakeable moral center teamed with arguably the most competent and intelligent player in the entire tournament. Unfortunately, never in real life has these partners appeared, and so the Communist Utopia has never been achieved. In the end, Liar Game is fiction and the characters are mere archetypes of real people.

Tying back to the original Liar Game novel, perhaps the reason why the third volume got banned was because it DID have the same ending as Nao and Akiyama’s. To the readers, it would’ve raised hopes that it is possible to fight the system and become equal, as well as being given a model of the type of personalities needed in order for it to succeed. It is no wonder that the officials thought it would cause another revolt.

Also, on a completely different note, one thing that I couldn’t figure out is how Nao’s father managed to get the 5 billion. Do yall think the original director, Miyugi, sent it all to him before fleeing the country? It strikes me strange that he’d give so much money to her father, it shows that he had a lot of trust in this single person who was just a player (perhaps like father like daughter, he deemed him an angel like Nao). Also, I would think that once the “dark forces” tracked down and killed Miyugi, they’d realize that the 5 billion was missing and they’d try to track it down. After all, that’s a LOT of money especially back in the day (and that would be 18 years before the Liar Game manga in 2005). There was a lot of things that Miyugi could’ve done with it that the forces wouldn’t had agreed with, given his past. A theory I have is that Nao’s father was never a player, that he was the original director. Though inconvenient, he definitely could’ve changed his name from “Tad Miyugi” to “Kanzaki ___.” The only problem with this is that he left for a foreign country for decades before the current liar game; however, there is absolutely no hints that Nao grew up as a foreigner.

Sorry for rambling, but I’m curious to hear y’all’s thoughts!

u/AdministrationOnly17 — 2 months ago

So… I made a meme…

Yeah so I kind of lost the plot halfway through drawing…😭 (I really questioned my life while making this)

Anyways, yall are welcomed to use the template and put something funny on there!

u/AdministrationOnly17 — 2 months ago

Nao successfully using her cute innocent girl charms!

It’s actually scary how flawlessly she puts on the act—

Also I love how the detail from the second round is brought in. Her getting to know everyone’s stories (in this case, buttering him up as an automotive engineer) and being personable has already come in handy for getting people to trust her.

u/AdministrationOnly17 — 3 months ago

This is too adorable 🥺

Her little song?? And the immediate drop in the “what 😰”

Another reason why I love the dub. I think I’ll make a full appreciation post very soon

u/AdministrationOnly17 — 3 months ago

Chibi-Smugiyama

In honor of Minority Rule ending this week, here is Chibi-Sumgiyama (ofc inspired by the iconic Frieren scene)

I don’t think I quite captured the mischief, but hopefully seeing Akiyama so gleeful is uncomfortable enough to throw people off.

Feel free to use this as a meme or put your own spin on it!

u/AdministrationOnly17 — 3 months ago