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Got around to watching Episode 22-23 of the English Dub, And I often forget that this is a genuinely good dub, even if one of my buddies thinks it's one of the worst dubs they've ever heard. 😅

What I really like about the dub is that it has its own unique charm to it. I literally can't think of a single line of dialogue that is identical in the sub as it is in the dub, and yet they always portray the same meaning.

Also, the voice actors aren't really trying to be the same as in the sub. My buddy might think English Akiyama sounds like a guy who: 'smokes 2 packs a day,' which I think is unfair, but also, yeah, he doesn't really sound exactly like how you would expect Akiyama to sound like, but I think that's part of the fun- The voice actors are all getting to interpret the characters, how they see them, and of course, how their voice is able to portray them.

I think the voice actor who gets the closest to sounding like their sub-counter part is Nao. In both cases, I'm fairly certain that this is not how the voice actor actually sounds in real life, but they're putting on an overly high-pitched and cutsy voice to portray Nao's juvenile and naive nature.

I really want to know what the hiring process was behind Solario. I think he's probably the Most different to his sub counterpart. And again, I don't think that that's a bad thing, it's just different! In the sub, he sounds much more sinister, whether as in the dub, it very much sounds like they just told the voice actor that he's playing a morally questionable announcer guy, because he's much more enthusiastic. Even just comparing the delivery of the line: 'Seventeen Poker,' in both aversions would perfectly portray what I'm talking about. In the sub, he sounds almost malicious, as he declares: '17 Po-Ker... ' but in the Dub, He sounds like a happy American game show host who's getting a little bit tired at the end of his shift- '17 Poker!!!'

Even still, his delivery at the end of Episode 23 was the one I was looking forward to the most, as it's inherently sinister no matter what, and he definitely did a good enough job. He managed to make it sound engaging without diving too deep into over enthusiastic, or overly sinister... I really need to think of another word other than sinister. In the sub, he says- 'Even the Great Akiyama will be helpless against him!'

In the Dub, he says: 'Not even Akiyama- Great and Powerful- Will be able to stand against you.' You see what I mean? It's different, but it works-

I think my favorite scene in Episode 22 is when Fukunaga has the internal conflict of whether to shoot or not. In the sub, when she envisions herself and Nao both going through the options, they just both flat out say different sentences, but in the dub, they actively interact with each other. Fukunaga says that if she Passes, the Eastern Amy's Victory is all but Sealed, and Nao starts her counter with: 'That may be true, but- '

It's another thing where it's such a minor change, but I appreciate it.

English Nao's screams are also getting better! They were fine before, they're but their delivery is improving regardless-

Nao and Fukunaga's interactions are funny regardless- Unfortunately, English Fukunaga simply can't compare with her Japanese counterpart- In Episode 23, Where Sub Fukunaga goes: 'HUA!' Dub Fukunaga can only match with: 'Ha!' But, can't compete with perfection I suppose.

English Nao interrupting Fukunaga with: 'Okay!- Just- I'm sorry,' It genuinely comes across like she's aware Fukunaga's pissed at her and she doesn't really know what to do.

My only comment about Kikuchi is that he sounds surprisingly similar to Dub Akiyama. Like literally, as they're playing against each other, it almost sounds like they're the same person talking. I actually went ahead and googled if it was straight up the same voice actor, but apparently it isn't. So hey, I guess they're both Goated- I don't think he'll be able to compete with the iconic: 'Che-Ck?!' and: 'Ace- Full-Hous-É!' though.

When I'm on my deathbed, I genuinely wonder what version I'd put on, or if I just have them both playing back to back Episode by episode. You know, assuming whatever doctors are around me by that time are kind enough to set it up that way! 😅

Just wanted to follow up on a cool idea u/AdministrationOnly17 and u/CreZativity had a while ago about checking out our professional fields!

I adapted the idea a bit so it fits everyone, whether you’re under 20 and just figuring out where to apply, in your 20s navigating college/jobs, or older and already established. What field draws you in the most? It doesn't matter if it's your actual career, your planned major, or just an area you’ve always been passionate about (like your favorite school subjects).

I’m really curious to see what drives the people in this sub and what kinds of minds Liar Game brings together.

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I've seen some people claim that the hype that Nao would eventually Win the Game with trust and honestly was proven false by this Game, as she just stoops to lying just like everyone else.

Thing is, I think that's pretty unfair to say-

Firstly, Nao doesn't resort to lying right away. The very first thing that she does is tell the truth straight out- Begging Kosaka to just cooperate, and trust that they can move on to the next Round and take on their debts.

Everything she says is the truth, but Kosaka has no reason to believe it. None of these three Westies played in any of the previous Rounds, and the only real evidence they have that they would do this is 24 Round Russian Roulette Ending in a Tie when Fukunaga seemed to dominate the whole Game.

But if you put yourself in the mindset of one of these Western Army Members, where not only have you lived a life filled with betrayal, but you've also just gone through your own versions of Round 1, Minority Rule, probably the Downsizing Game, and the Contraband Game- All of these were doubtlessly filled with extreme versions of betrayal and maniacal laughter that mirrors the ones that they fire back at Fukunaga, Akiyama, and Nao.

I was a bit disappointed that they seemed to cut a line from the Manga where, as Nao is begging the Western Army to concede during 17 Poker, Nishida is the only one to actually believe that she's telling the truth, using his first hand experience from 24 Round Russian Roulette and questioning Fukunaga to realize that they are probably legit.

However, his beliefs are struck down by Kosaka, who says: 'That's why everyone calls you an idiot."

The anime also cut out a line where as Akiyama is walking into 17 Poker, Solario says to himself:

"Oh Akiyama. Don't let the fact that this person ended up in the Revival Round pit your guards at ease. To do that with mean a Certain Defeat."

They're small lines, and I can understand why they were cut, but I feel like missing them proved how important they were, because they reminded Us that Nishida, Kikuchi, and Kosaka, aren't just NPCs. They've gone through their own Version of all the Games we've played before, and None of them included Nao.

So, of course they would be the way that they are. Untrusting and heartbroken.

Nevertheless, the whole blinking tactic is sure, lying on the surface, but Nao isn't lying in the same way Kosaka did to her. She never flat out says: 'I put the ball on this number, bet here."

Instead, she simply denies putting the ball in any of the numbers, and only blinks when she's talking about the number she actually put it on.

Throughout the Game, she says: 'I'm telling you, it's not in any of them!" "I won't tell you the number the ball is in." "This won't work."

All of these are true statements.

But of course, she does end up lying on the most minimal degree, because... Well, this is the Liar Game. And ask everyone has said, you can't survive in this world just being like Nao. Not unless everyone else is also being like Nao. You need an Akiyama as well, and just as Akiyama has a Nao in himself, Nao has an Akiyama in her.

I also be like the anime could have spent just a few extra seconds focusing on how Nao and Kosaka played Stationary Roulette after the emotional scene, and once again, I have to say I feel the J-Drama did it better, simply because it focuses on the board a bit more.

Nao and Kosaka are both just betting one chip for all the rounds, and truthfully telling each other what number the ball is in.

It's a heartwarming final scene, because it's exactly how Nao has been hoping they were able to play these games this whole time, and even though it took until the very end, she finally managed to play it that way.

So yes- Nao ended up Winning through honesty and trust. It just took a few little lies on the way.

It would be Legendary!

I tried to look them up on YouTube but I couldn’t? The only OSTs are from the old live action. Maybe you know how to find them? I am looking especially for that triumphant OST with viold violins in there