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Hey, I have no idea what this subreddit is for so I'm not sure if this kind of post is okay. Truth be told, I'm also not entirely sure what the video is. I was never that big into Minecraft, but someone told me that this was a video with a really smart character in it so I was interested.

I haven't seen the sequel follow-up yet, I've only seen the first one.

Quite impressive that it's at 28 million views, but I also think it's equally crazy that the video is at 28 million views, and yet I had never heard about it until now. The video also has over a million likes, so the reception is overwhelmingly positive. Kind of just goes to show how big the planet is and how many people are around if that many people can love a video and yet I still hadn't even heard about it until now.

At first, I thought that what I was watching wasn't actually the video I was supposed to be watching. I mean, if I was supposed to be watching a haunted Minecraft playthrough of some kind, why was there a guy talking over it like it's an: 'Explained,' Video?

I legit thought that this must not actually be the video, but the view count told me otherwise, and then when I looked for a reaction videos, they were watching the same thing, so I guess what I found was what I was supposed to be watching.

I can see why the commentary voice was needed.

Most of the stuff that the Player does can easily go over your head, and the commentary guy is needed to explain everything. The importance of the glass block, the fact that the player can apparently walk through the woods and just barely see three signs, and register them regardless.

I do actually think that simply noticing the three signs is very impressive. Again, I don't play Minecraft, but if I understand correctly, seeing a sign means that someone you don't know is in the world with you, and since the Player the is already aware that someone is following him, that must be pretty scary, and yet he just continues to walk through the woods as if he didn't even notice the sign. That's quite an insane ability to keep one's composure.

I do admit though, the scene that caught my attention the most was when he goes through the yellow Gates.

It's such a bizarre scene. The yellow gates are there and there's all this weird choir music going in the background, and he just slowly goes through, only for... Whatever he sees on the other side to be completely blacked out for the viewer. The music is completely cut, and we don't get to see what it is. Whatever it is though, the Player bothers to do more than just peek around the corner. He goes right around the corner and flat out stands there right in front of it. He looks at it for a good 10 seconds, and then decides to just leave.

Whatever he saw though, it was enough for him to literally Sprint out of there. He's not walking or even running. He's full on jumping along to increase his speed.

I think it's a pretty good Example of a fear of the unknown. It really gets your head spinning as to what exactly he could have seen. Whatever it is, the viewers are not allowed to see it. But whatever it is, it's silent, and enough to get the fearless Player to run away at full speed, even though it doesn't even seem like it's chasing him.

It kind of reminds me of the Donut from Everything Everywhere All at Once.

It's funny to think that the Player is just on another level of human psychological tolerance. That whatever he saw might literally blow people's minds and make them go insane, and yet for him, he has enough mental fortitude in his head to be able to gaze upon it and literally take a good look at it, without really caring that much. And yet, despite that, it's still enough to get him to run away.

Manga- 7/10

>!A very good introduction. I went into this series blind and it had me hooked to see how Nao would get herself out of this mess that she put herself in. How many times have you found out you just screwed up everything beyond comprehension all because of one simple trivial mistake you did in the span of literally less than 5 seconds? The impact that a single mistake can make- If only you could do those 5 seconds differently, you could literally save yourself a million bucks. I remember going to the Wikipedia page and seeing it written in the synopsis that Nao and Akiyama would defeat Fujisawa, and even then, I didn't even really believe it. I had to see for myself. The ending also perfectly sets up what's to come and the reveal of the Invitation to Round 2 still sends chills up my spine to this day. The only reason it's not ranked higher is simply because later Arcs really up the Mind Games quite a bit. There's a reason why the Anime trailer threw in your face that there was more to this Story than Just this Round.!<

J Drama- 7/10

>!Again, no real complaints here. I can't really justify it giving a higher score than a 7, but I also can't justify giving it a lower score either. Because it's a live action adaptation, there are naturally a couple elements that can't be smoothly transitioned from the Manga. For instance, while Fujisawa's actor Does a good job, he obviously can't mimic the absurdly over the top facial expressions of his Manga counterpart. His also, this adaption doesn't even try to pull off Akiyama in a disguise, instead changing the final strategy to involve Akiyama somehow hiring somebody (presumably off the street) to just go in, count the money, and then give it to him once Fujisawa leaves the room and leave the house with no questions asked. There is some extra stuff added into though that elevates this adaption, such as Akiyama feeding the goldfish in the apartment, and then when Nao is freaking out because they have less than an hour left, Akiyama Just goes over to slowly feed the fish and look depressed to trigger Nao running back to Fujisawa and begging for mercy. Nao observing Fujisawa from around a Bush With comically large binoculars is also a nice touch.!<

K Drama- 7/10

>!Again, I feel giving this a lower score would be unfair, the whole disruption is doing its own thing. Portraying the entire Liar Game as a public game show that literally everyone knows about is a bold and risky move in my opinion. There's also a scene that I flat out don't get, where Akiyama and Nao are in the car watching Fujisawa and the cops show up. Akiyama then covers for them parking outside the house by making it look like he's going to kiss Nao (???), and then the cops tell them That there's been some suspicious activity in the area, and to take their date elsewhere. And then they just... Don't. And it turns out fine. (Isn't this being broadcasted Live?) They also literally manage to do a combined effort of the Manga and the J Drama by having a disguise- But it's not Akiyama in the disguise- It's this other random guy who's a main character in this adaptation. This adoption also attempts to make Nao's forgiveness more understandable by literally having a bunch of alone sharks running and start beating up Fujisawa as they're being recorded, live on television for the world to see, But I feel this also takes away from the purity and unconditional compassion Nao has. Overall though, it tells the story well. You could argue Fujisawa is even worse here because he's betraying Nao despite knowing that he's literally being filmed. This also sets up for Akiyama to display his intelligence from prison by figuring out that Nao and Fujisawa know each other purely based on their interactions. Also, the scene where Nao falls to the ground after first meeting Akiyama, and he literally holds out his hand to pull her up as the Cliffhanger for Part 1- That's how you end Episode 1 baby. Still, I can see why IMDB has this first arc rated lower than the Anime's Version as it doesn't really make sense to have it broadcasted to Everyone.!<

Anime- 8/10

>!Yeah, screw you, I don't care. This is the Best Version. The only genuine downside I have to say is that they don't do the best job at explaining Fujisawa's backstory, but this is mostly made up for in the English Dub. The Ending to Episode 1 Is brilliant. Sure, you can whine that it's not accurate to the Manga, but I dunno. The J Drama did it accurate to the Manga And it just didn't hit as hard for me personally, to just see our main characters cramped in a poorly lit bus. I prefer the sunset, the pretty music, Akiyama literally saying: 'Looks like this Game is far from Over!' It all just works for me. Fujisawa contemplating what he'd do with a million bucks is also peak comedy. And the Ending? Come on man. Pure Cinema. The Music, the Voice Acting, the Sunset- I don't care how many people say it's bad. This stuff is masterpiece level material. "I've got a little money bunny baggy tucked away. Gonna share it with a Friend To-Day!... What?" Cinema.!<

When they're able to predict the strategy, they call the show too predictable.

Then when it does something out of their league, they say it's too complicated.

They literally flip-flop between these two ideologies. Either they predicted it, and that's bad, or they didn't predict it, and that's also bad.

Meanwhile, the fact that everyone seriously wants Nao to become a manipulative compulsive liar is honestly concerning to me. Like, I like Tomodachi Game too, but do you really want Nao to become someone who's threatening to cut people's fingers off, or straight up stab them in the neck? It feels like that's what people want.

I genuinely can't think of another franchise that has a fan base that is going through the same thing that the Liar Game fan base is having right now.

The adoption has come out, and for the most part, people are happy with it.

What We are disappointed in, are the reviews.

And it's worth noting again that I don't think that what the people online are saying is what the average person is. Thinking. People are very different individuals online than they are in real life, and most of the people who I talk to in real life about it seem to like it, or at the very least don't seem to hate it like the people online do.

I know it's kind of mean to say, but it comes across as if these people who are overly negative about it haven't really grown up yet.

Like their frustrations with Nao- I sort of understand, because I remember when I was a kid, I always found it incredibly frustrating when there was just a naive stupid character wandering around blissfully unaware of the danger they were in. I wanted characters to stop saving them, and let them suffer so that they can realize how cruel the world actually is.

I feel like the people who feel this way about Nao would literally have their heads explode if they watched 5 minutes of any episode of My Little Pony.

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I've been looking a lot into the concept of morality and stuff like that. The only franchise that has honestly touched my heart as much as Liar Game has is the sitcom The Good Place, and even then- I think Liar Game is better (The Good Place has a bunch of pointless romance subplots and s*x jokes at least once every Episode which can be very annoying).

What do these two stories have in common?

They both have the same message-

"Being kind, forgiving, or generous in the modern world has become such a rarity and level of difficulty, that it is considered counter-culture."

Why do so many modern audiences hate Nao?

Well, it's because she doesn't make sense in the modern world.

In a world where people are constantly selfish, egotistical, and sometimes outright evil, how can someone like Nao get to exist? Why does she get to live through her entire childhood with her innocence intact and we didn't?

I think that's the main thought process here. The fact that there are people literally saying that they want Nao to become a broken person is proof enough.

Which is a large reason why I think >!Ending on Revival Round 2!< Is a Genius Move on the Anime's Part. :)

In many fictional stories, the good guys are often overly simple. They're the protagonists. Of course they're the good guys. And the antagonists are just as simple. They're the bad guys and they need to be destroyed or arrested or at the very least, embarrassed.

It wasn't until much later that stories started to add complexities to their villains. Starting to show exactly why people become bad guys, and promoting the idea that we should have compassion and benefit of the doubt towards people who seem to get enjoyment out of hurting others, because more often than not, that comes from inner pain.

But nowadays, most people are just selfish and assume everyone else is too. To meet someone who is trusting, honest, and pure, is seen as an impossibility here. Besides, why would you want to be like that when people are just going to exploit you?

Say what you want about the 2019 Joker Movie, but it doesn't give people the excuse to be cruel to others. Like it or not, being selfish, just for the hell of it is just that. It takes true complexity, reflection, and practice, to be Good.

In Fiction, Good Guys are Simple, and Bad Guys are Complex.

In Reality, Good Guys are Complex, and Bad Guys are Simple.

>!Round 1- The introduction Arc. Meant to establish Nao and Akiyama, as well as their ideals and their whole gimmick. Lots of people hate this arc and it's universally considered one of the weakest ones- It's crazy to think that us ancient boomers once read this and was fully invested, thinking this was all there was to it.!<

>!Minority Rule- The Second Round and first introduction of a Real smart opponent- Displays Akiyama's power and intelligence while also showing how helpful Nao can be without even realizing it- Recruiting the Team, and also giving Akiyama insight that allowed him to solidify the fact that there were 3 teams at play and not just 2.!<

>!Downsizing Game- Fukunaga rematch, and allows Nao to try a Game by herself, only to fall deep into despair. Despite this, she manages to follow Akiyama's strategies perfectly, with him being able to utilize her as a liar and not just as an honest and naive ally. Nao manages to get on top of the Game and Akiyama even refers to himself as her: 'possession.' In the end, Nao reveals her plans and insight into the Liar Game that even Akiyama didn't see.!<

>!Contraband Game- Now that it's been revealled that the Author was able to put more effort into Liar Game at this point since he was no longer writing One Outs, this makes a lot more sense. By this point, fighting Fukunaga has become a little stale, especially since Akiyama has proven in the last 2 arcs that he demolishes her. So having a new villain, and one that is on equal footing to Akiyama intellectually, is the most refreshing thing possible.!<

>!Revival Round 2- We get to see Fukunaga, Akiyama, and Nao All separately display their different strengths. Nao even gets to completely fool Fukunaga and despite that, she is now fully devoted to the team. Nao also finally gets to Win a Game all on her own. The fact that this is a filler arc by design, and yet is as good as it is, says a lot to the strength of this Show.!<

>!Pandemic Game- A rematch with Yokoya had been anticipated and it gets delivered here. Shame Fukunaga isn't here.!<

>!Musical Chairs- Once again, fighting Yokoya has gotten a little stale and just in time, a new opponent arrives. Surprisingly though, Yokoya does not even entertain the idea of joining forces with Akiyama, and instead remains an enemy to both Akiyama and Hairmoto. Yokoya even states he would rather be defeated by Hairmoto than Akiyama for a 3rd time, which makes it all the more ironic when Yokoya manages to defeat Harimoto and then get kicked up the but again by Akiyama. The fact that Akiyama started the Game with the best position out of the three, only to end up looking like it was impossible for him to Win, and then he Still comes out on top says a lot to the strength of all 3 factions here. It's essentially confirmed in this Arc that if Yokoya and Hairmoto were able to remain allies and not succumb to pettiness, they could have defeated Akiyama.!<

>!Bid Poker- Honestly, not as bad as people say it is. I think it's just because it's not on the same quality as most of the other arcs, but the Revival Rounds have always been displayed as more tamed to the other ones. Besides, Akiyama and Hairmoto hardly interacted in Musical Chairs, so it's nice to see a 1 on 1 face off with them without Yokoya butting heads and getting in the way of Akiyama VS Hairmoto- The True rivalry. Seeing Nao manage to break Abe and Hairmoto was also satisfying, as was Akiyama VS Kimura. RIP glasses lady- The most redundant member of Hairmoto's Cult.!<

>!Human Auction- Set up for the final battle and Akiyama and Yokoya have a warm up fight. There is virtually no way for Akiyama or Yokoya to lose this Game, so they just make it a fight if pettiness over whether Nao can keep fighting the good fight. We also get to hear about what happened to Fukunaga and get to say hello and goodbye to the last non-NPC Character.!<

>!Record of the Four Kingdoms- Say what you will about it, but it's a fine Ending. While it might have been fun to see one final epic showdown between Akiyama, Yokoya, Hairmoto, and maybe a fourth smart character too, There's only so many times that you can just keep adding characters, and the author had probably already pushed himself a little too hard. Instead, we just get one final showdown between the 2 rival intellectual beasts- Akiyama VS Yokoya. The fact that Nao barely even does anything is kind of surprising, but the fact that what she always wanted from the very beginning, and had been verbally fighting for ever since Revival Round 2, Finally comes true is fitting enough.!<

Spoilers for the light novel by the way, particularly in Y2 V12.5 and Y2 V5.

I feel it's one of- if not THE definitive What If question for Classroom of the Elite. In the light novel, Ayanaokoji says that if Nagumo hadn't fought him and just focused on winning the Exam, Kouenji would have ended up at 325 Points and Nagumo would have 327.

If that happened, how would the story change?

I once asked this to someone on a live stream and their response was that not that much would change, but >!Ayanaokoji's Class Transfer!< would have happened sooner.

Really, I think it comes down to what exactly the deal was.

I thought it was that if Kouenji failed, he had to cooperate with the Class from then on.

But in the Anime, apparently it's just that he has to cooperate in the Next Special Exam (and obviously, that he isn't offered complete freedom and protection anymore).

If Kouenji failed to get First Place, he likely would have gotten Second Place instead, earning 200 Points for Class D, but failing to get them to Class C.

I'm not sure what exactly he would do in the Unanimous Vote Special Exam. He could even just be as disruptive as he was in our timeline, but claim his arguments are sound and this is his way of: 'helping the Class.'

Would he have >!exposed Kushida before Ayanaokoji?!< Unlikely, but possible if he really does live up to his promise.

If the deal was that he had to cooperate from now on though, then we would start to see Real deviations in Y2 V7. (Possibly Y2 V6 if Horikita refuses to grant Kouenji's wish if just completing in solo events.)

This is a pattern I notice in people- Particularly in acquaintances. When they realize you're mad at them, they try to make up for it by acting overly nice whenever you happen to be around, rather than... You know- Apologizing.

By that, I don't mean the're going the extra mile, but rather than they're just putting on a nice face and voice and will do the occasional tiny favor here and there regardless of if you ask for it or not.

It's the equivalent of cutting off your leg, and then giving you occasional massages whenever you walk by without ever acknowledging the fact that they cut off your leg (and society is in a state where you can't actually sue them for that).

It seems to happen with people who appear to Want to be perceived as helpful, but don't like to communicate. Which results in them doing favors without asking, which results in them inconvincing you more than anything else because they don't actually know what you need help with, and them just having no idea how to deal with conflict. If you're mad at them, they start ignoring you as much as possible, and if they're mad at you, they'll never communicate why unless they literally have to, and ignore you doubly so.

I still see people sad that Liar Game isn't considered the greatest thing ever made by everyone on the planet, so I just want to rant about some realistic optimism.

Something worth noting is that a lot of people don't watch Anime. And even those who Do won't can't watch everything. Every Season, dozens of new Anime come out, and many get swept under the rug.

And while Liar Game may have YET to reach the popularity of Attack on Titan or Death Note, it Certainly has made an impact.

This subreddit alone has exploded in popularity thanks to the Anime. Before, it was literally a dead zone. I remember finishing the Manga and making a few posts on this subreddit and waiting days for a response or an Upvote.

Now, people are positing fan art and talking about how much they love this Story.

For every person who bothers to vent about how they don't like Liar Game on MyAnimeList, There are at least a dozen more who are quietly enjoying it like normal people.

Every once in awhile someone posts to this subreddit assuring that they are anime only, and they are genuinely loving it.

Recently I was driving with someone in the car, and I mentioned Liar Game was my favorite Anime. The person I was driving with genuinely lit up and said that they had just recently found the Anime and started watching it and was genuinely enjoying it.

Despite that, though, I think people seem to genuinely be nervous that Liar Game might not get a Second Season.

And I do want to be realistic- It might not.

BUT-

Just because an Anime doesn't adapt the whole thing doesn't mean that the Anime was a Failure.

Look no further than No Game, No Life- An Anime that was made over a decade ago with only 12 Episodes and has yet to come back for a Season 2 despite a massive fanbase constantly demanding it. When people talk about Anime that are coming back, they often use No Game, No Life as the Thumbnail simply for clickbait.

Classroom of the Elite is another example of an Anime that only had 1 Season- 1 Cour- And didn't come back for Years with many people believe it was Dead.

Akagi and Kaiji both also adapted a good chunk of their Mangas only for the Anime to stop abruptly with a bit of an unsatisfying Ending. And yet, despite them both having Strong passionate fanbases that want to see it continue, neither of these Animes have returned yet.

So none of this is to say Liar Game is doomed or a failed project. The very fact that this Anime even Exists is a Miracle that should not be taken for granted.

Tomodachi Game- Mad that Liar Game gets 2 cours out the gate and they're still waiting for a Season 2 to their Anime that honestly would have benefited from a 2nd cour as the following Arcs are genuinely great... Well, the next 2 are kinda crap, but the last 3 are Great!

Akagi- Ready to pat Liar Game fans on the head as they join their own fandom in being humbly upset that their Anime had 2 cours, did a Great job, but sadly likely won't come back to adapt the rest.

Usogui- Sitting on their pedestal that their Manga is a Masterpiece and they don't need no Anime.

Kaiji- Too busy whining about their 4th Live Action Movie and lack of 3rd Season of Anime to hear about Liar Game.

Classroom of the Elite- What is Liar Game?

People are asking just how powerful Yokoya is- How he could possibly have screwed up Akiyama's team so badly- But what's got me the most hype is why people are asking why Akagi is sweating buckets when his team supposedly has it all in the bag.

>!Akiyama has no money. He has little influence over his team of idiots. And worst of all, he's up against an all powerful rich dictator who can think on a level beyond his own. And yet despite that, he will pull off the unthinkable, with nothing but a bluff, a magnet, and 3 people who realized they weren't alone. Akiyama will show how overthrowing complete control is done.!<

The fact that we are getting this, And >!Revival Round 2!< Is hype as hell.

I've seen Moriarty from Moriarty the Patriot and Ranpo from Bungo Stray Dogs Have Canon versions. I get it for L because of Change the World but what about the others?

This is talking about stuff in the Manga after the Anime so Spoilers ahead!

>!Fukunaga is an icon for me personally, mainly because we're both trans women. While she starts her role as a villain, she slowly becomes more and more pure, until her final Game in Bid Poker, where she is actively fighting for Nao's ideals despite her not even being there. I always found it fitting that Fukunaga goes back to looking (and claiming to be) entirely female just as she's learning to properly cooperate with her team- As in embracing her inner identity is also causing her less stress and allowing her to remain more calm and focused. (Of course, the Rule that you can't be violent from now on, probably helped with that too.)!<

>!To be honest, I think my life would actively be worse if Fukunaga didn't exist. Trans people are hardly portrayed in media, and when they are, it's often not done well, but with Fukunaga, I think it is.!<

Anyway, the main thing that sucks >!about Fukunaga is a character is that she never got to have her proper satisfying rematch against Yokoya. At the end of the Contraband Game, Fukunaga declares she wants to continue in the Game despite being cleared of debt, so that she can rip the Money Yokoya took right out of his bare hands.!<

>!However, Fukunaga just never has a chance to actually Do that. Yokoya isn't present in Revival Round 2, and Fukunaga is separated from the main gang in the Pandemic Game. What honestly amazes me is that despite literally All of the remaining Players who resented Yokoya from the Contraband Game (with the exception of Akagi who was already on their side at this point anyway) being literally Right there with Fukunaga, she apparently failed- Or didn't even Attempt- To sway them over to her side in any way. They just remained NPC's for the rest of the Series.!<

>!By the time Fukunaga and Yokoya are actually in the same Game, it's Musical Chairs, and there's so many characters and Strategies going on, that Fukunaga doesn't actually have the chance to interact with Yokoya. I don't think they actually exchange any lines of dialogue at all!<

>!Then, in Bid Poker, Fukunaga Finally gets to have a 1 on 1 face off with Yokoya in a sea of NPC's, where she fails miserably and ends up a billion yen in debt, which to be fair, She thrusted upon herself in order to save the one character that stayed by her side, despite not even knowing her.!<

>!The fact that Yokoya doesn't even remember her when Nao asks about her, and he simply refers to her as: 'That person list because she was weak,' says so much. Despite Fukunaga declaring that she was only continuing in this Game to defeat Yokoya, Yokoya never even saw her as a threat. The fact that she was Literally his first real opponent in the Contraband Game, and he doesn't even remember that last he saw her, she wasn't wearing a wig or anything, hurts.!<

The first red flag was when he uploaded his shorts: 'Top 50 Smartest Characters,' and Akiyama was suspiciously absent. I think it was the first time that I've seen: 'SCD Compilation Video,' like that Without Akiyama. Yuichi Wasn't there either, but I'm used to SCD Fans dismissing him. But a Video with 50 Characters and Akiyama didn't make it?

But then, it's become more obvious recently, with it being very rare for KiyoKouji to include Liar Game in any of his videos, and when he does, he usually goes out of his way to put it in a bottom Tier.

Heck, sometimes he'll throw in Yokoya as a bottom Tier character and not bother with Akiyama.

I know next to nothing about Re: Zero, mainly because I like to seek out franchises that aren't already popular. All I know is that it's about a guy who gets transported to another world, and then realizes that every time he dies, he keeps going back to the previous checkpoint.

Sounds like a fascinating concept, but it seems like characters have regularly been popping up in SCD recently including the main character, but more prominently, a long haired woman, and a white haired guy literally called: 'Gluttony.'

I feel bad for saying it, but the discussions related to Liar Game on r/anime are so much more lively than the ones on this subreddit. It's genuinely just filled with people trying to figure out what Yokoya is doing; >!Some of them got it right, but even then, they don't understand exactly Why.!<

The Discussion for the Latest Episode, is Here-

https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/s/pSdlTp5F8E

Just remember not to give away spoilers, or you get 8 Day Ban

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Before I start, Yes, I know you don't know why I keep going to groups that are inherently uncomfortable. Believe me, if I had a reason to just stay home or do something else, I would, but I don't have a reason, so here we are. If you're someone who genuinely has fulfillment in life and can afford to stay away from these people, good for you. I honestly respect you, and I hope in the afterlife I can meet you and catch up. :)

Anyway-

There's a Pentecostal church I went to from February 2022-August 2023. At the time I joined it, it was exactly what I needed and I loved it. A few months in though, it started to show some cracks of toxicity, and then by August 2023, I found myself showing up and not having the courage to even go inside. Then, I didn't been have the courage to leave the car and I found myself not even going to the parking lot, but the parking lot to the building Next to it (Yes, my life is very Sad). That was when I realized the holy Spirit was calling me to stop attending.

From what I've heard, it's apparently struggling a lot with the former leader having to step down to fight accusations of being sketchy with finances or something. Apparently hardly anyone shows up anymore but they're refusing to back down.

However, some of the people who I met in that group (and no longer hangout with for various reasons), has started attending a group I'm currently attending.

A couple weeks ago, we were all sat around a table discussing, and one of the people from the Pentecostal Group went on a small tangent which was in the context of Heaven, but literally boiled down to her saying: 'Jesus wouldn't let a sinner into his home.'

Technically speaking, she had a point, but I know her and I know the group she's from, and I didn't think that quote was meant in the context it first appeared.

I stepped into the conversation and said I actually disagreed.

Simply saying that was enough to get everyone at the table to stop talking mid-sentence and stare right at me.

I talked about how Jesus ate with sinners and constantly promoted looking for the lost sheep and helping the vulnerable. I finished it off by talking about a conservative Christian who kept saying that immigrants are bad, and if I think they're good, then I should just let them into my own house and make food for them and what not. Which I thought was a completely absurd argument for a Christian to make, since that's literally what the Bible implies we should be doing.

When I said that, the entire table was silent, and then the girl from the Pentecostal group, along with her best friend, tried to cover up for what she was saying, And I said I understood, but just felt the wording was awkward and reminded me of what I was talking about, which is why I said what I did.

An hour later, when we were done the discussion, one of the final reflection questions we were asked was of what we felt the spirit was telling us: 'Today.'

The girl's best friend from before immediately asked if: 'Today,' meant Just from this discussion, or the whole day. The speaker didn't even understand the question at first, but I jumped in to say that I actually was about to ask the same thing, which again, somehow caused the whole table to briefly shut up and just stare at me before eventually deciding that the whole day was fine.

When it got to my turn, I said that since it was previously established that the whole day was counted, I would give myself a few more hours and say the previous 24 hours had been very tough for me as I felt betrayed by 2 different churches that I trusted, but felt had let me down. I even said that I wasn't even sure if I believed in God anymore, but that someone told me that I didn't seem like I had lost faith in God, but had rather lost faith in Christians.

Before I even started talking, after, I simply said that it had been previously established that the whole day counted, the person who first brought up that question simply looked down at their paper and kept writing, seeming to filter out what I was saying. Another guy from the group simply sat their arms folded, glaring at me like I did something wrong.

It's funny, because I was just saying what was genuinely on my mind, but I wonder if these people were thinking that I was strategically masterminding the conversation in a way to refute Them specifically or something.