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I felt sorry for Wish Nikki too...

I only watched the movie once yesterday so correct me if I'm wrong, kinda late to the party but I'm open to discussion. Wish Nikki was only seeking affection while fulfilling her purpose of loving Bear, at the start the only things she wants from him is to be at the same space as him and sleep with him, she never directly or indirectly tries to have sex with him.

The biggest victim was obviously the real Nikki but many times thought the movie I felt terrible for Wish Nikki. It felt like he was taking advantage of a naive girl, taking what he wanted out of her and then making her feel like trash for trying her best. At many times it felt like she was just had demonic behaviour but every single one of her crush outs actually made sense, even the ones that real Nikki wasn't trying to get out and Wish Nikki was in full control.

The feeling that she felt bad for not loving her was genuinely justified especially if she shares some kind of consciouncess. It's like knowing something hard but not having the mental capacity to handle it, drawn to an extreme level.

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u/6147715 — 7 hours ago
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As a Indie/India Navarrette Fans: What are your thoughts about passing the role in Heat 2 for MCU's X-Men, do you think she made great, or atlis decent decision then Why?

I don't know anything about her apart from she's my crush, i also wasn't able to watch Obsession and didn't even knew about the film neither.m but still what's your opinion.

u/Organic-Camera-9167 — 12 hours ago

Freaky Nikki - What is it?

I'm fascinated by the paranatural entity which possessed Nikki Freeman. In the film, its clearly stated that another being has taken control of Nikki and she only manages to wrest back control for short periods, which continue to become more infrequent the longer the possession continues. For shorthand, the paranatural entity in question will hereafter be referred to as The Wish.

My interest is hypothetical discussion over the nature of The Wish.

Can it be made self aware? Could you somehow make The Wish realize it is a product of the One Wish Willow? What would happen if you succeeded? Would it dispel its control over its host? Would it develop new goals and needs beyond the willow wish that created it?

Can it be reasoned with? Bear is much too aloof / dumb / untrained to attempt a first contact situation with an otherworldly being, so we never really got to see if The Wish could be negotiated with.

Could The Wish be sedated or treated with psychiatric medication to stabilize its extreme behavior to make such remediation easier? It does sleep occasionally, so it has some mental limits. Can it be encouraged into a mindset lead by logic instead of driven by compulsion?

It understands English, although I noticed that it takes The Wish a little time to acclimate to normal human behavior e.g., being very erratic and telling bad lies to get Bear to take her home during its first appearance outside Nikki's house. It seems to have partial access to Nikki's memories, like knowing Nikki has a father but not knowing that Nikki and her father aren't on good terms. It was able to access just enough to fabricate a lie but not enough to fabricate a good one.

During the party scene, The Wish continually changes its stance when its behavior is challenged, but The Wish is very... inhuman about it, like an AI training itself by trying different outputs to see which creates the desired reaction. The Wish develops manipulative stratagems during its possession of Nikki, like the intentional outburst at the restaurant to derail Bear from catching it in a lie. The creepy smile scene etc. etc.

Another inhuman trait The Wish exhibits is its poor grasp of human bodily needs, like defecation, urination (standing in place until Bear returns) rehydration and possibly nutrition---we never actually saw The Wish eat anything, does its magic sustain the form it possesses? And if not, will the body of the possessed victim eventually die but still appear alive as The Wish continues to control them like a puppet?

What are its physical limitations? It sometimes demonstrates strength seeming to belie the tiny body its controlling (i.e. the brick and steering wheel scene) but then it is unable to overcome a locked door when Bear hides in the bathroom at the end. Although very interestingly, it starts saying what it thinks Bear wants to hear to trick him into coming out, "I've been thinking, maybe we should break up. ...We can take space."

What are its perceptive limitations? If we moved Bear without Nikki or The Wish noticing, would it be able to locate him regardless?

Is it an otherworldly entity or is it someone else's ghost forced into a new body? The Wish exhibits some humanity in its hubris: extreme insecurity, fear, anger, and becoming controlling in response to that insecurity...

Are there consequences for The Wish if it fails its mandate?

Near the end of the film, The Wish describes a hypothetical scenario where she is left alone, stating, **"**Well, if I have the bed all to myself tonight, I'll lay there warm. Until slowly, I feel cold, like I walked into a freezer. My hands will feel like they're full of sand, like when you lay on them wrong. And that feeling will slowly spread across my entire body. You're still in my heart, but you're slipping. Any thought of pain or regret will slip away like a chemical switch. Even though it's quiet in the room, somehow, it gets even quieter. It's not painful. You just let go, everything you once were, and then there's nothing. It's not darkness, no, sweetie. Darkness is a color. There's just... nothing."

This description is intensely specific. So specific that I believe it was being literal. I think The Wish suffers when Bear isn't participating in the romance but because this level of suffering transcends typical depression or anxiety, I wonder if The Wish is faced with torment for falling behind its goal of fulfilling the demands placed on it by the breaker of the One Wish Willow. And if that's true, who or what is administering this cruel effect on The Wish?

When Bear dies, where does The Wish go? Nikki regains control of herself at the last second (what an incredible scene!! A real nailbiter.) does the Wish cease to exist? Is that cessation of consciousness preferable to the nothingness it suffers in the aforementioned example?

Lastly, is the entity known as The Wish inherently evil? It murders without compunction or empathy, it is represented by darkness in the film (when it has full control of Nikki, her face is often obscured in shadows) and it has little care for anything other than the goal determined for it by the One Wish Willow.

If you read all that, thank you. Please share your thoughts and enjoy the discussion :-)

u/xPathofChaos — 5 hours ago

My take on what the Obession is

Regarding the movie "Obsession". I believe that based on all of the internal clues from the film and external clues from the primary sources that Freaky Nikki is an entity that was created by the One Wish Willow that possess the real Nikki.

Some suggests that Nikki suffers from BPD (I won't committ to a belief in that) My belief is that Nikki is attempting to bury the Freaky Nikki persona in the past in a normative sense of what her reputation was......However, I believe that the entity is separate force, the entity is using the perceived Freaky Nikki persona as the inspiration for the takeover of her soul. This seems to be supported by the fact that towards the end of the film the entity is completely self-aware of the wish and seems to mock Bear for creating this mess, the entity also makes every attempt to cover up the fact that Nikki is attempting to reclaim her faculties. But to support my case I have outlined some observations.

  1. The love Nikki exhibits doesn't feel like her own, even if we concede it was supernaturally enhanced.

We can imagine what it would be like to love someone 11/10 and it probably wouldn't end up entailing creating an alter for a dead animal (unless we assume the true Nikki's alter ego would be capable of this, which seems like an assumption).

  1. It's very clearly that the real Nikki is in a purgatory like state when she is not in the driver seat, at times she is viewing things through Freaky Nikki's POV, at times she is completely absent (this is why when she comes through she acts surprised by the enviornment at times). Also the fact that the phone operator was also able to visit or conjure Nikki's soul clearly shows her experience is supernaturally accessible if other people have access to it. It's very clear that she only regains her faculties when the entity is asleep.

  2. Throughout the film Nikki is able to slightly break through, when she writes statements like "Not me" which seems like a stretch if her own alter ego was responsible even if her natural alter ego was constituted and put in control of her other self-conception.

  3. The entity has extreme strength not indicative of anything Nikki should be capable of? Nikki doesn't come across as someone who has brute strength, but to beat someone's skin entirely off their face albeit even by slamming it against a brick, the angle she did it from was not adventagious. Also her ability to use a handgun with instant bulls-eye like accuracy without hesitation seems....odd?

  4. Now this could just be for the movies effect, but it does seem very intentional with how effective she is at causing carnage but ineffective at everything else; what's stranger is that the director said the wishes aren't inherently evil, however wishes can have extreme consequences when carelessly used.

  5. If Freaky Nikki never was a persona why would her actions have been different or the same? I think this gets to the main question.

Final Verdict: Nikki is possessed, not by anything demonic but by an entity that was created by a powerful wish request that needed to be fulfilled to the utmost.

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u/PrinceOfDokkan — 6 hours ago

Bear could have saved himself and Nikki

Once he found out how curse is lifted., he continued his selfish ways.

Instead he could have gone to Ian and Sarah and explained what was happening and how to end it.

So check this out...

They go to the music shop.

It turns out that Sarah's dad has a medical background. He proposes a risky procedure. Bear realizes that he owes it to Nikki to take the risk after what he has done.

So he induces hypothermia on Bear which stops his heart, and uses a heart/lung machine to take over.

So with Bear "dead" the curse is lifted. He then warms Bear up to normal teperature. Bear is unresponsive so in a tense moment they have to give him adrenaline shots and defib him back to life.

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u/Miserable-Soft7993 — 10 hours ago
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What is this eye symbol on the Obsession merch?

I keep seeing this specific eye symbol everywhere on the Obsession merch. This single one stands out from all of the other ones because one symbol is used on a piece of merch, this one. Maybe I’m delusional and making a big deal out of nothing but idk.

u/Inside_Victory_2911 — 11 hours ago

The fact that Andy Richter is the most popular actor in the whole cast but barely says two lines the whole time while hanging in the background is really funny to me

u/RequirementTall8361 — 17 hours ago

Navarrette basically tells us what Nikki was feeling during the car scene

Inde Navarrette said that she played Nikki as already having a crush on Bear before the wish: “I think that Nikki did have a crush on him” and “I think that she did have some feelings for him.”

I think that makes the car scene much clearer. Nikki becomes unusually vulnerable when she tells Bear that he’s the only person she can really talk to, looking down and avoiding his eyes before finally looking at him as if she’s waiting for a response. She also seems nervous when he mentions the gift, and then gives him an incredibly direct opening by asking if he likes her and telling him that now is the time to say it.

Her disappointment and irritation when Bear says they’re just good friends also makes more sense in that context. I think the “Freaky Nikki” comment hurts her for the same reason. Coming from Ian as a joke, she might have brushed it off. Coming from Bear, someone she was beginning to have feelings for and apparently saw as a sweet, kind guy she could really talk to, it feels like a cheap shot from the last person she expected it from.

That doesn’t mean Nikki was already deeply in love with Bear or that a relationship was guaranteed. But Navarrette’s own interpretation strongly suggests that Nikki’s feelings were real and still in their early stages, and that the car scene is where she comes very close to letting Bear know.

Inde Navarrette interview about Nikki's feelings for Bear

u/Ok-Car-3192 — 19 hours ago

she is so well trained for this role

I wouldn't have blinked because my contact lens probably fogged everything by this point.

u/Ok-Building-379 — 2 days ago

My obsession haul over the last two weeks

Megan and Michael are so awsome. Every time I watch this movie I find something new. It just keeps giving.

I got lucky per se with my popcorn tin and poster it was the last they had left at the theater.
$25 donation for them both all together!? That was a steal. Unfortunately the poster has a little tear I put painters tape on since it was put on adventures with me. I didn’t want it to get damaged more.

Michael couldn’t stop laughing at the card I made for my friend who couldn’t make it.

Overall. Highly recommend meeting them both. I had a lovely experience.

u/No_Manufacturer7847 — 1 day ago

Nikki’s obscured face

I haven’t seen people talk about this too much apart from the scene with the flowers but throughout the movie Nikki’s face is obscured pretty often.

- Right after the initial wish happened when she walks over to bears side of the car

- When she knocks on the front door of Bear’s house (it was excessively dark/in the shadow especially compared to bear)

- Obviously the scene with the flowers

I know there are more instances of it throughout the film but cant remember them all since I’ve only seen it once.

Do you guys think there’s any symbolism or reason behind this choice?

u/Nateontrack — 2 days ago