r/YouOnLifetime

Listen I don’t watch crime documentaries neither do I listen to them so you might call me uneducated in this area. I do wonder after finishing the series though can someone like Joe be rehabilitated and “healed”? Or is it something unfixable? At some point in the series (I don’t remember the exact season) Joe confesses that he enjoys killing, he enjoys the look his victims has on their faces (scary and gross and unsettling) so I’m not buying into the whole “killing to earn love” thing (both equally unsettling). But I do wonder whether in our society these type of people can potentially go through some sort of therapy or rehabilitation and become fully functioning part of society? Hope it’s not off topic.

I just finished You and I started to wonder, Bronte thought she had something when she talked about Joe's mom, how he feels he needs to kill in order to earn the love of someone, and for a moment I thought she had something on him, he got emotional.

But even with her love and now the certainty she won't leave, he still kept on killing people even though he had love, so clearly her equation was missing a few variables.

What would be the requirement for Joe to change and stop trying to be this white knight for those he cares about? What drives it? Clearly it's not just the lack of love because he had it and did it anyway.

To me Bronte's acting version of herself (she stays ok even knowing Joe is a serial killer) near the end after she saves him from the burning library, is the best girl he could find in his mind, she is innocent and broken like the others before her, and she also is OK with Joe having these urges to kill and acting on them, the 2nd point only being checked as well by Love Quinn, unfortunately she wasn't innocent and pure like the others, so she's out, you have to check these 2 boxes and only Bronte at these moments was the one, even though she was acting and it was all fake.

So even having found the perfect girl, he kept on killing even though he had certainty and her love.

Rewatching season 1 is honestly the best thing ever because I feel like so many newer fans fail to realize how complex Beck is, even if she’s a really basic character at the same time.

Beck constantly finds herself dating men that subconsciously remind her of her father; they all come and go, only appear circumstantially, or have double lives while being with her. Joe was supposed to be the one that was different, the one that was constantly sticking around and constantly cleaning up Beck’s messes when she’s been used to cleaning up her own life since her dad OD’d. I think these differences between Beck and Joe made it really hard for them to be an actual couple, infact I’m not sure why so many people deem them as cute together. Beck’s interest in Joe fluctuates very often, and even in the end she was ultimately cheating with Doctor Nicki because she felt suffocated by Joe (I’m not minimizing/justifying cheating btw, this was just her reasoning) and after getting caught, she broke down and told Joe it was because she thought she was undeserving of his love.

Do we really think Beck had any intention of loving Joe? Or was she too affected by the bad men in her life to be able to handle someone like Joe? One thing we all know about this show is that Joe loves a woman with a ton of man problems, because he wants to be the one to swoop in and solve everything. I feel like it was doomed from the start with him and Beck, even if she’s the one who haunts him the most throughout the show. Obviously Joe was doomed since the moment he killed his dad, because that provoked his hero complex where he feels the need to protect women, and I believe all of the other women aside from Kate had love for Joe but when it comes to Beck I’m really not sure.

I'm honestly surprised Paco still defended Joe in season 5 after he saw Beck trapped in the basement. I get not letting her out when he was young and Joe manipulated him but after growing up and everything why wouldn't he just stay quiet?
I understand why Paco is loyal to Joe bc he saved him. I'm just saying Paco speaking out about Ron led Bronte's friends to realize he went missing and overall made it worse for Joe

I am a huge huge fan of the show, and have understood 99% of it for the most part except this small thing, please let me know if I missed a detail that explains this !

Right now I am rewatching season 5, which I absolutely love every part of and all of the analogies, comparisons to previous seasons, metaphors, etc. The one thing that I cannot wrap my head around is Maddie and Reagan.

Maddie claims that Reagan stole Harrison from her first, and that Maddie and Harrison have had to go behind her back secretly for years and even think of an attempt of running away together so they can be happy. Maddie even carried Gretchen, their child.

What’s not clicking to me is why Harrison gpt with Reagan in the first place just to sneak around and wish he was with Maddie for so long? Maddie even states that Harrison has a huge lack of sexual attraction to Reagan, and can’t even get it up for her. Was this ever explained? It’s just not clicking to me as to why he’d leave and why he’d get married if he was in love with Maddie first and clearly loved her a shit ton more. He was obviously just Reagan’s puppet. I might’ve genuinely missed this, but it confuses me every single time I rewatch.

Obviously she originally would’ve thought Love killed Joe then found out it was the other way round but both ways it works

She literally says ‘you’re not gonna kill your spouse you’re not murderers’ (I know that’s not the exact quote but I can’t remember exactly what she said)