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Tablet Feat doesn’t exist

The scale of fabrication has never been this high before. In order to upscale Takuya Yagami, the so‑called "Tablet Feat" was crafted. The motivation for this feat supposedly comes from this passage (Y2V4):

>"It certainly seems like a second year student is sabotaging them, but if it is ...... who ... will it be."
Yagami took the liberty of touching the tablet and trying to check the details.
"Hey, get out of my way."
"What?"
"I allow you to be here because you are one of us, but I don't remember allowing you to take it without permission."
Yagami takes a step back, while looking into her eyes full of intensity.

Based on this brief quote, they claimed:

>First, it’s important to get a solid range of how long Takuya held the tablet, as we can see from this scan of Y2V4’s OTL <…> as soon as Takuya grabs the tablet, Tsubaki pushes him away reflexively in a way that prohibits him from seeing the rest of the tablet, as we see in literally the next page where Tsubaki is shown with Takuya nowhere in image which implies that he’s quite a distance away from her now after taking an additional step back for measure <…>. This means that the ONLY time he can see the tablet is the moment where he can grab the tablet for a brief moment from the information we can extrapolate. The average human reaction time for visual stimuli is ~.25 seconds, so it’s most logical to interpret this as the lowball for Takuya holding the tablet being ~.5 seconds, and the higher interpretation, and honestly the most fluid interpretation would be for it to be just about ~.25 seconds. <…>
Now that we’ve established how long Takuya held the tablet, we need to explain how exactly Takuya would anticipate Kitou’s route and speed through the tablet. I suggest reading Takuya Document’s Cross Year War Strategy for better prior context, but to summarize at this point of holding the tablet, Takuya would have been deducing that Arisu was the leader of the Second Years and thus she would be sending someone with specific stats and qualifications to intercept the First Years. Through a series of multiple inferences, he would anticipate that the person she needed to send out was Kitou; I won’t be explaining more of that feat as anything more is not necessary to judge the FSIQ Takuya employs here.
Now that Takuya knows that Kitou will try to thwart them, he needs to anticipate his route and speed to intercept him through some means. In order to do this, Takuya needs to:
1. Filter out irrelevant and extraneous third-year and first-year GPS signals currently on the data, isolating the key second-year signatures. As we know in Y2V1, there are 156 students in the Second Year Class, and if we apply that number to First Years and Third Years, then there should be ~450-500 students currently on the Island, which means that Takuya was manipulating the information in his mind of 450-500 GPS signals while procedurally canceling them all out WHILE doing more complex deductions is insane. Attentional filtering of this magnitude requires outstanding WMI and PSI to hold all the data in mind while simultaneously identifying and segmenting relevant points.
2. Simultaneously, he also needed to visualize the island, running 3D simulations of the people within it in order to get the best idea of where students are currently located. Similar, but faster to what Arisu did on the Island. According to Ayanokoji’s words in Y2V3 <…> the Island is divided into 100 sections of 500mx700m areas. Through simple conversions, this means that the Island is about 35km^2 in terms of area. You could probably shave off 7km^2 of that though because some parts consist of water which you don’t have to visualize for this feat necessarily. Regardless, this is absolutely broken VSI.
3. Scan these hundreds of names while performing complex deductions about Arisu's strategy, and successfully picking out the name "Hayato Kitou." Recognizing a single GPS signal among a vast stream of information demonstrates incredible PSI.
4. Extract spatial relationships between the GPS markers and his current location using this to predict optimal routes between locations. This entails maintaining the visualization of the map of the entire island and geometrically plotting multiple moving points to create an expected mental route of Kitou’s route and speed. He would also have to account for Kitou's path as he would move at constantly differing rates of change. This is a complicated Calculus situation that requires ungodly levels of spatial reasoning, differentiating Kitou's speed from a slightly moving GPS signal and perfectly visualizing the best path for him to take while constantly running the 3D simulations in your head, while maintaining information the whole map of the island is simply incredible, and seemingly impossible. Amazing VSI & CPI.

Some people tried to expand the timeframe or reduce the visualized area. Poor souls. They were so fixated on this one episode that they forgot everything else.

The author deliberately wrote a scene where Takuya was holding his classmate's tablet with the same box as Kiyo's. That means he had at least two tablets (that one + his own).

>Saying this, Yagami extends one of the tablets.
"What is this?"
“I borrowed it from a group of my friends from class B, first year. Because the owner of this table is in the same square as Ayanokouji-senpai.

But maybe he didn't actually use them, huh? Let's take a closer look…

>"Can I talk to you, Tsubaki-san?
"...... what?"
In the distance, Yagami, who is also handling a tablet, looks back.
“'Wouldn't it be possible to corner Ayakoji-senpai with more detailed instructions? It seems like a bit of a tedious progression. "
"It's so depressing." Tsubaki decideded to ignore it, saying it in a whisper that Yagami couldn't hear.
After another 30 minutes or so, the problems appeared. Because the three groups that ordered to advance north from C4 had barely moved.

Again

>In the distance, Yagami, who is also handling a tablet, looks back.

Again

>Yagami, who is also handling a tablet

Again

>also handling a tablet

Why on earth would he be holding a tablet if not to use the GPS search? Was he just staring at his own position the whole time? And if he already had his own tablet, why would he even need Tsubaki's then?

Next point, just common sense. It's genuinely baffling how some people can't visualize real‑world scenarios. Let's pretend for a second that Takuya didn't use his own tablet and instead used Tsubaki's to locate Kito, as the doc claims. Now try using your own tablet or computer: take a screenshot of your entire town map and try to find a specific shop. You probably won't be able to, because the scale is far too large. You'd need to zoom in and then locate the shop.

Now apply that to the story's map: there are ~450 students + dozens of tasks. Is all of that information perfectly displayed on the tablet screen so that Takuya wouldn't need to zoom in on individual points and names? Did none of them overlapped? Or did Tsubaki conveniently zoom in on the right area, so Takuya could instantly recognize all the relevant positions? How incredibly convenient that would be.

And this isn't just my speculation. Kinugasa explicitly stated that Kiyo used zoom‑in and zoom‑out functions to track students. Because it's a tablet, not a 4K cinema screen, for god's sake.

>誰かにメッセージを送ったり、写真を送ったりすることは試験中出来ない。だが自らのタブレット画面を保存することは標準の機能で当然備わっている。保存した地図を繰り返し拡大縮小することで全生徒の位置を細かく記録として残しておくことが可能だ。
During the exam, sending messages or photos to anyone is not permitted. However, saving the screen of one's own tablet is naturally provided as a standard function. By repeatedly zooming in and out on the saved map, it is possible to leave behind detailed records of all the students' positions.

You know, sometimes people really need to step outside and touch grass instead of engaging in dry theorizing. Perhaps if they actually did something in the real world, they'd stop pretending that everything fits their expectations so perfectly. It's painful, but reality can be cruel.

Conclusion

Does anyone seriously believe now that Yagami would grab Tsubaki's tablet for a 0.5‑second glance at student positions, rather than using his own tablet, which he had been holding for hours?

This is likely the lowest level of reading comprehension, the most blatant dishonesty, and the most disrespectful and biased "feat" I've ever seen.

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u/YujinDoro — 9 hours ago

Ayanokouji Fan Art

I always loved the shots in season 1 of the purple evening sky so I tried to recreate that here. Hope ye like it.

u/jay_m2k3 — 6 hours ago

Is Manabu better at socializing than Suzune?

Manabu criticized Suzune for being so aloof with her classmates in Year 1 and told her that isolating herself wasn't going to help her reach Class A. He also seems to be on much more friendly terms with his classmates than his younger sister is with her's. Even students from outside his grade/year will usually say good things about him, implying that either he has made a good first impression on those students or those students have heard good things about him from others.

Though there is a statement from Tachibana that kind of contradicts this. IIRC, she says that he mostly achieves victory for his class all by himself and that sometimes their classmates somehow hold him back or smth. This implies that Manabu's relationship with his classmates might not be all sunshine & rainbows unfortunately.

u/Pretzels0314 — 12 hours ago

tbh a good end for cote would be that he doesnt return to the white room but gets adopted by his girlfriend's family peak idea no ?

tbh a good end for cote would be that he doesnt return to the white room but gets adopted by his girlfriend's family peak idea no ?

u/Dull_Dog5653 — 14 hours ago

Is Ayanokouji the weakest character in the story right now?

When I say “weakest” I don’t mean in terms of strength and achievements. I mean in terms of narrative and character depth.

I’ve been reading CoTE since 2018 all the way back when Graze used to do fan translations, and in year 1 I really enjoyed Ayanokouji as a character because we didn’t know much about him (especially until volume 0), so there was mystery and intrigue to what he actually was.

But now we know and honestly it’s kind of boring. Even in all countless volumes we have gotten in almost a decade I think he probably had the least character growth

Also maybe it’s just me but back then I was in college and younger but now I’m older so the silent edgelord type character who uses everyone as his tools seems more cringe than badass to me nowdays

Another thing is I can’t really trust this dude with character relationships, cuz he hurts and ruins everyone who gets close to him. Not really happy about him going after Hiyori now cuz she definitely cannot fix him and she is gonna end up broken and fucked up just like Kei and Ichinose

I know this might be a hot take cuz a lot of people here tend to like Ayanokouji and honestly I like his character too, it’s not that I hate him, I just think Kinu could have done so many interesting things but the potential never really got fully explored. So I’m just disappointed

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u/TrailblazerNCyrene — 18 hours ago

Is Ayanokoji only "god-tier" because the White Room was locked to Japan?

Ayanokoji is the ultimate product of the White Room. But the WR only operated in Japan (120M population).

Imagine a similar black-ops facility in China, the US, or Russia, selecting from a vastly bigger population pool and resources.

Is Ayanokoji an absolute anomaly who beats anyone globally, or is he just a big fish in a small pond because the WR was geographically limited?

Would a top survivor from a global equivalent eclipse him? Thoughts?

u/Few-Coffee8787 — 1 day ago

Honestly? The continuing development of these two is what I'm looking forward to the most in coming volumes. I really like them being friends and have enjoyed all their scenes together.

u/Aros001 — 1 day ago

Ayanokouji( Humanity's Dream And Nightmare)

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P/s: English is not my main vocabulary so please forgive me if I made a mistake.

Ayanokouji is one of the interesting character for the fictional character. He is genius, strong, quick thinking, has abnormal adaptability and others feat. He can be considered almost perfect because he have many talents and abilities that humanity(us) always dreamed of. But he also have some biggest flaw for human like his lack of emotion. If you guys already read the novel, you will have two different opinion about him between like or hate him. This is just my opinion, but I want to share what I understand about Ayanokouji Kiyotaka.

In volume 0, we finally know how gifted and flawed Ayanokouji actually is from his white room background. In white Room, there are 10 curriculum level and the 10th or Beta is the dimensions above in terms of difficulty. The White Room is a project that plans on nurturing children from infancy and turn them into geniuses with the best of education of the world in the hopes of making the best use of a person's potential, bringing in the best people of the world in their own respective field. It also aimed to make artificial geniuses who could act as politicians in the future and help Japan dominate in the world politics. Although this sound awesome, we already know how harsh the environment and treatment for the white room students. The most sad part is many people especially in the political world use this institute to throw away their illegal child like Amasawa Ichika to hide their existence from the world. Every curriculum can be considered too cruel or hard because the children have to learn and adapt quickly if they don't want to get beaten or expelled from the institute. Although this sound harsh, many students who were survived from their generation really become genius and talented person and has a mature way of thinking like adults. And Kiyotaka is the best in that facility. For ten or Beta curriculum, all of students from 4th generation can't survive or adapt in the curriculum and all of them have been expelled from the white room except for Kiyotaka. Kiyotaka have mastered post-graduate academics, multiple martial arts, advanced foreign languages, and cultural arts like the piano and calligraphy. He also acquired elite strategic thinking, combat weapon proficiency, and complete emotional detachment. But the beta curriculum is the hardest and the most inhuman curriculum in the white room. If someone from the 4th generation managed to survive and adapt, that person (Ayanokouji Kiyotaka) is no longer a human. Even Suzukaze(the creator of white room curriculum)admit that Kiyotaka is the anomaly but the most perfect person for white room education.

The sad part is Kiyotaka can be considered the monster from the moment he was born. His talent and abilities almost have no limits and he can still improve further than that. But, he has a biggest flaw for human which is lack of emotion. We already knew from volume 0 that Kiyotaka doesn't understand emotion and can be cruel toward people like his behavior when his father praise him or when he doesn't even care about Yuki who still traumatized from the white room. It's not because he is evil or like to do that but it's simply because of his inhuman personality. He can also be considered a robot because he lack amount of emotion than an average person. This can be considered advantage or weakness for Kiyotaka. This is why he didn't hesitate to use or manipulate the people around him because that's the core of his identity.

If the readers read the the volume 0 before the volume 1, they will be really confused because Ayanokouji seem like a normal and awkward teenager in the beginning of the series. That's why people really shocked when he show his 'everyone is tool' personality in the year 1 island exam. Then he become more cruel or manipulate person without hesitation. From this series, we already learned many students especially class leaders who use their brain or talents to win the exam even if they have to use dirty trick or manipulate people in the school. The Advance Nurturing High School is the school that one can't survive if they only follow the rules or score high in the test or exam. That's why many students being expelled because this school teach the students to become the people that always improve themselves and doesn't hesitate to broke the rule or expel their classmates if they want to become class A and graduate from this school. We also know the student like Nagumo who have the influence as the student council president managed to expel many of the students from his year and can control them if he want. That's why Ayanokouji Kiyotaka is the most suitable person for this school because of his personality and abilities. If Ayanokouji doesn't help his former class, I doubt they can survive by themselves and reach class A. And the funny thing is most of the students from Horikita's class still doesn't realize the students that they think only gloomy loner who is fast at running is the mastermind behind their success and the biggest threat for all the students in that school. I don't know when Horikita will finally admit and tell her pathetic classmate about Ayanokouji's achievement and power. Not only that, Ayanokouji also help many students in the other classes and make them improve like Ryueen, Sakayanagi, Ichinose and others. In short, Ayanokouji is the powerhouse. Even Hoshinomiya admit that Ayanokouji is joker and how unfair Chabashira class has him help them from the beginning. Koenji also reprimand Horikita their class didn't win because she thought their class become united but because of Ayanokouji. This is the main reason why readers doesn't like Ayanokouji because he's too smart and overpowered in COTE and how he always know about his enemy strategies and think many steps ahead of them.

This is the main reason why Ayanokouji is the dream and the nightmare for the humanity. Many of us want to become smart, strong and have much abilities to survive in this world or for our own sake. This is the dream that many people want to achieve but it's doesn't come without risk. For example, some people can become talented or genius in some aspect but it doesn't mean their life will always happy. Many genius or strong people always suffer from the burden of expectation and the jealousy from the people around them. We can't never forget there will be always the people who is better than us in many ways. Our emotion is also the biggest factor in our talent development. If we can't control our own emotion, then no matter how smart or strong we are, we will receive drawback from our own action. The same goes for people who doesn't care of discard the emotion. For example, a big company who doesn't care about their employer and discard them without hesitation. That company can bring a huge profit but the people will always afraid or suspicious to work with the company in the future. It's the same situation if we dealt with life or death incident. If we become too cruel or lack of emotion, we wouldn't care about the life of the person in front of us and we may discard or abandon them without any guilt. What makes us different from the cruel dictator or monster outside there?

COTE is the complicated series for me. It have many interesting stories but it also make me want to drop this series. I don't know what the author's plans for this series. I just hope this series end well and don't disappoint the readers with the conclusion.

Many people including me agree the main character, Ayanokouji Kiyotaka is the inconsistent character throughout the series. Even the author describe Ayanokouji is neither good or evil but between them. But I'm also think if we in Ayanokouji place, will we be different from him? He was born in the institute that use the kids like him as the experimental subject to create the artificial genius.He never received any love from his parent because they only view him as the tool(the same way of his view toward people) to get want they want. His father also called Kiyotaka as thing or property. Not only that, Kiyotaka is someone who is excel in many things but lack of emotion especially empathy or sympathy toward others. Kei once tell Kiyotaka that she thinks Kiyotaka is weird person because he always show the behavior of mature and genius person but sometimes he act like a child to some things the normal people always do. People may thought why Kiyotaka doesn't destroy the white room or kill his father if he wants freedom? The reason is Kiyotaka never view the white room as his misfortune. He accepts white room as his part of identity. In fact, if White Room destroyed or Ayanokouji Atsuomi gone, do you think the other people won't try to get Kiyotaka for themselves? Atsuomi enemies in politic always tried to steal Kiyotaka from him for their own benefit. In fact, Nanase already told Ichika(year 3 volume 4)that Shirogane faction(Atsuomi enemy) want to take Kiyotaka and her to save them from White Room and Atsuomi Ayanokouji. Well, that's totally ridiculous because the political world never be fair and nice like that. In fact, maybe they want to use Kiyotaka for their own white room project or make Kiyotaka to help them in rule the Japan. That's the reality for Ayanokouji Kiyotaka. No matter, how much talented he is, the people around the world will never leave him alone and they will always tried to exploit him for their own benefit. I doubt Ayanokouji will get a happy ending. Even if he become a better person and have more emotion like what we saw sometimes in the novel, I don't think his life will become better. That's all my opinion about Ayanokouji Kiyotaka. Sorry if some of you doesn't like what I wrote.

u/RayJack234 — 18 hours ago

Why do some people want to imitate Ayanokoji?

I’ve never really understood why some people admire Kiyotaka Ayanokoji so much that they try to imitate his behavior, mindset, and personality.

Do these traits actually work in real life, or do they only seem effective because of the way his character is written in Classroom of the Elite?

I’m genuinely curious what you guys think. Is there anything about Ayanokoji’s mindset that is actually useful in real life, or is trying to be like him mostly unrealistic?

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u/ami00r — 20 hours ago