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Am i the only one who still loves GameTheory??
As i scroll down the GT subreddit,, it becomes apparent that the new hosts of GT are honest kinda looked down upon. And while i will admit, the new VIDEOS are a bit different then what mat-pat used to make, the new HOSTS are doing an AMAZING JOB. (and a couple of posts i've seen have been slandering the hosts for the scripts, but if i remember, in the 15th anniversary musical, it was said that the hosts are NOT the ones who write the scripts, but i may be wrong) And honestly? I've actually been really enjoying the new videos. i would appreciate if they went back to theory's from time to time, but other than that? I think the channel is going great! And if ya'll will remember, mat-pat CHOSE the new hosts. He was the one who decided who his legacy would be passed on through. So please, give them credit where credit is due. so guys, PLEASE dont be mean to the new hosts. they are trying their best. and I for one, am exited to see what comes next.
Regards, StudentNeat
Beginning Fold?
I'm mostly making this to know if I'm dumb or not lol, I'm bad at analyzing and stuff. Was it obvious to others that the villain paper character, Fold, was at the being? Didn't connect that till next day, after I saw episode myself. Was confused as to why he knew who Kit was and her backpack friend, Kaboodle.
The Deep is gonna kill Homelander and you cannot convince me otherwise
I just feel like The Deep's entire arc as a character has been building towards to this moment and I don't see any other way they can wrap up his character unless they show him killing Homelander. They've spent so much time on him this season just to have him killed off for laughs or redeemed willy nilly without a true conclusion. Before you' think I've gone mad, I have severalvery strong hints that point in this direction:
1- He has nothing left to lose.
This is self-explanatory. The Deep has systematically been dismantled as a human being across the entire series, treated as nothing but humiliation porn this entire time. Every season he's been shown compromising his emotional and physical integrity for Homelander and the Seven believing in the end it would pay off. He's had to kill lovers and endure being framed for A GENOCIDE in the last season. All because of the Seven and Homelander...and what did it get him? Discarded like trash and have the team that his entire life revolved around disbanded in one conversation. He can't even return to the ocean where any hope of a normal, happy life was left. It's more than evident that his arc will end with him on the path of revenge against Homelander, possibly even playing a crucial role having him killed.
2- Sister Sage.
The first time Sister Sage meets Homelander all the way back in season 4 Sister Sage presents her plan as follows:
"If you crush the masses, who builds your monuments?
Who tongues your taint? Nah. The people will tear it apart themselves. Just gotta nudge 'em a little. Then you get to swoop in, be the one saving it. Like Caesar"
However, most recently in season 5 this exchanged is referenced once again:
"Homelander: You promised me Caesar.
Sage: He was stabbed by his best friends."
Last episode it's implied Sister Sage plan to prevent Homelander from getting the V-1 failed because she couldn't account for the unpredictability of human emotions, with Soldier Boy and Homelander bonding over the same woman instead of killing each other over Stormfront memory. However: on that same episode Soldier boy says he gave Homelande the V-1 because that's what Clara would have wanted, not because he has any sentiments for Homelander. This suggests Sage plan's failure wasn't because of "human emotions".
So what if this was Sage plan all along? She may have known that Soldier boy would feel compelled to give Homelander the V-1 out of respect for the memory of Stormfront. Homelander, being unable to kill him, shoves him back into cryo-sleep and goes and disband American democracy now that he's unstoppable, leaving a perfect power vacuum for her to eventually fill up once he's dealt with. BUT: This also implies that she may have known that with Homelander now being all powerful and self-absorbed on the living deity narrative he would no longer need the Seven, and HERE IS where The Deep comes in. Let's remember: one of the first things Sister Sage does in season 4 is getting to know The Deep. She seems to understand The Deep almost immediately after a few diqlogues, after all, she reads people extremely well, and quickly figures out that he is insecure, desperate for approval, and easy to manipulate.
If my theory holds, she may have been counting on The Deep to go Berserk over Homelander disposing of him like trash and ruining his life. But you may be wondering: why The Deep? He's surely not strong enough to beat Homelander, right?
3- A-Train.
This point may be weaker than the last two, but I feel like the quick chat The Deep had with A-Train will have a big impact in the end. Even if it doesn't: A-Train arc is the exact opposite of The Deep's: both kill people they love because of the Seven, both are humiliated by Homelander, both get pushed out from the Seven and then manage to come back. However: one–A-Tranin-eventually improves as a person and gets away from all of it to instead devote his life to what matters most: his family, and even then, he gets killed by Homelander anyways for doing the right thing.
What if this is the final point of divergence between their stories? What if, where A-Train died confronting Homelander, The Deep actually manages to kill him instead?
4- Symbolic meaning.
IF Homelander is God in this season, or at least, a Messianic-like figure...it would make perfect sense for him to be killed by a Judas-like figure...wouldn't it?
5- Homelander unspoken weakness.
Homelander three possible weaknesses that may help kill him in the final battle:
1- Radiation.
2- Soldier Boy's power-anulling ability.
3- The Virus.
All of which are stated as currently useless.
In the last episode, we saw him tolerating radiation much better than a few episodes ago, when Soldier Boy trapped him in a radiation chamber. Soldier Boys ability which Kimiko now supposedly has may fail or not work on him. And the V1 gives him immunity to the virus. The only way to kill him is by overpowering him, and there's no supe strong enough to defeat him at this point. It seems like so far Homelander has 0 apparent weaknesses and no realistic way to be stopped. If he defeated Ryan so easily while without the V1 nothing tells us Butcher, Ryan, Kimiko or someone else may stop him now.
However.
Can Homelander breathe under water?
There's nothing that suggests he may not be drowned...and If the final battle is anywhere near the ocean, The Deep has a home-field advantage that Homelander cannot counter. Plus! drowning is the most biological death possible—aspirating water, panicking, losing control. It's the opposite of a god's death.
If Homelander is playing God, the most The Boys ending imaginable isn't a heroic battle—it's the universe's biggest joke killing the universe's biggest narcissist. A washed-up, octopus-loving, cowardly joke dragging the "immortal god" into the abyss. How? That part I don't know. Maybe the Octopus homelander forced deep to consume was friend with a giant Kraken?
6- This may end like God Of War: Ragnarok.
[SPOILERS] At the end of God of War: Ragnarok, all the main cast refuse to kill Odin, even when they all lost people they loved because of him. Howeher, Sindri: the comic-relief germaphobic, cowardly dwarf ends up being the one to kill the God in revenge for the death of his brother. I feel like this will be just like that ending.
Perhaps Butcher misses the chance to kill Homelander because he chooses to save his friends, redeeming himself at the end, Kimiko may be incapacitated at some point by the danger she poses since she's the only one with a chance to get him killed for real. Ryan is getting slammed and I have 0 doubts about it, all the other characters either are unable to kill Homelander or don't have the emotional stakes to be the ones to deliver the final blow. But the Deep? The Deep has the means, the motive, the emotional stakes, and the best reason to kill Homelander.
Now, do I believe this will happen 100%? Absolutely not, but it would be so freaking hilarious.
I have a goal to accomplish…
I was thinking, since Part 51 is about to release this month, I feel like I have a mission to get done, to spread this this trailer and the series far and wide, and why I need your help, and I mean ALL of your help, we need to spread this trailer and the series as a whole to be spread across the world, from YouTubers and the entire internet as a whole just so everyone can see this masterpiece of a series and make Part 51 a global event.
So, who’s with me?
The Trafalgar Law = Davy D Jone's Echo Theory ( Has this been done yet anyone?)
Trafalgar D Water Law is a Child of Davy D Jones (The legendary king, not a specific pirate or pirate line like Rocks D. Xebec that we have seen yet.)
Consider
- Oda Said Law's flower is the Queen of the Night (Moon?) and is sometimes known as The Dutchman's Pipe Cactus. Dutchman is well linked historically as a name for Davy Jone's Ship
- Oda has also said Law is an avid coin collector as a hobby. Who else in narrative is constantly taking coin as tribute via Seaman's Tradition and the Davy Back Rituals? Who just unintentionally dedicated what is likely most if not ALL of said coin collection to Davy in recent days when his sub was sunk?
- His full name is not just Trafalgar D Law but Trafalgar D *Water* Law which he said in panel is his family's specially assigned and likely deliberately concealed ROLE name.
- Davy Jones is known as the bookkeeper, the ledger keeper etc. He is being painted at heart as a being not just of water but also of order and measure and careful plan and scale keeping. He is the LAW dude and the plan maker. (Which makes sense if his world is ruled by by the constant unrelenting order of forces like the pull of the tide etc.) Who else does this sound like in current narrative? Who is the show's openly mocked plan maker and the dude who responded to his own civilization's destruction with both fury and a solemn vow to balance the scales with whatever time in his life he had left?
- Are JoyBoy and Davy really painted in Legends as enemies or just equal opposites who's intrinsic natures make them prone to clash because they don't naturally operate in the same ways without effort to do so?
- We have all already seen how the World Government Loves to smear and paint its enemies as simply evil rather than simply complex. Has Davy's Origin Story been as covered over/twisted as Joy Boy's was in the intermittent centuries since the Void Century thanks to either deliberate narrative shift or the natural accidental shift some stories just seen happy through progressive retelling and reshaping? If Joy Boy and Day in the Void Century were in fact reluctant allies despite their different natures would the Celestial Dragons really be likely to misrepresent one more than the other? Could the betrayal of their old mentioned alliance in days past have come down not to DELIBERATE abandonment of their old alliance through cruelty or deceit rather than their nature's clashing and causing misunderstanding or blind spots in their collaborations with each other that were exploited by other people who became aware of them. (Much like, I have to add, Law quite recently broke his own alliance with Luffy and his crew after Wano even though Luffy would have been thrilled to see it continue, because Law saw Luffy's crew's refusal to help his own captured crew as BETRAYAL and so he left and went to 'fix' things himself at the cost of his own great personal suffering while Luffy himself was kept completely ignorant of what happened and so was left distressed/confused by the cold shoulder he got from a good ally he would have likely much preferred to keep working with.)
- In summary as well as in essence, at this point I just CAN NOT escape a very basic possible conclusion/pertinent question: namely are all the stories of the first appearance of JoyBoy and his resulting quest to free the world during the Void Century just re-echoing at present through Luffy's own life and that of those around him? Is Luffy, who has been repeatedly shown to have limited patience for long stories and complicated interactions/relationships remained blind to the fact up until this point that such willfull blindness/lack of focus in the past was what ultimately rose up and destroyed both his alliances the first time around and the freer world he dreamed of creating?
Final Equally Maddening Question: is Marshall D Teach -who is a follower of Davy Jones yes -simply too CORRUPT at this point in the story to play the role of true ally to Joyboy like will be required to take out IMU? Is he both the story's ultimate big bad AND massive RED HERRING to hide the TRUE child of Davy Jones that will ultimately join with Luffy and his Crew to take down both Imu and the Celestial Dragons eventually? Does our favorite returned Sun God in essence simply have to learn where his *own* weaknesses actually lie in the current arc and then use that gained knowledge along with his own great love of freedom to CHOOSE to start to pay attention and begin to BEND HIMSELF just enough to bring out the strengths of just not some but all of the people who he chooses to work with/stand beside in order to bring his ultimate dream to fruition?
Nolan’s Odyssey is a Trojan Horse!
Hear me out! I think I know what’s going on... and if I’m right – it’s pure genius!
Studying screenwriting, especially Nolan’s work, you see that his scripts aren't just built for the story; they have layers of depth that affect the audience directly. The final layer is the meta-level – that’s us. Usually, even the script's structure is built on a unified theme or a core metaphor. In Inception, the dream levels served as the structure and a metaphor for immersion and cinematography, while the meta-level was an "inception" performed on the viewers. In the end, we become the object of that inception. That is the meta-level.
Knowing Nolan is a master of this, I feel like we’re only seeing the tip of the tip of the iceberg. I suspect there’s something tied to the Trojan Horse here – it could be anywhere: the trailer, the language, the cast. Think about it: the film itself is the Trojan Horse. If Nolan made it "by the book," it would be: "Wow, looks like a great movie," then you go to the theater and think, "Wait, this is a mess." But knowing Nolan, he’s doing an Inverted Trojan Horse. He’s presenting a "gift" (this trailer) that shocks people, triggering massive debate and driving huge crowds to the theater for maximum reach. It’s a brilliantly calculated marketing strategy (remember the Dark Knight viral campaigns?).
Inside the theater, there will be plenty of surprises. Think about it: how hard is it to film a scene with that "daddy" translation just for the trailer and then reshoot it? Dropping clues about loving Emily Wilson’s translation or "miscasting" roles – it would explain so much, especially the contradictions in Nolan’s statements, like telling Ludwig Göransson "no orchestra" while hiring Travis Scott.
Writing this out, I realize it sounds like a conspiracy theory, but I have a gut feeling. Also, look at his filmography. He usually alternates: one film the studio pushes, which usually wins Oscars (Dunkirk, Oppenheimer), and his "personal" projects in between (Inception, Interstellar, Tenet). After Oppenheimer, this Odyssey is exactly what he wants to do, and how he wants to do it.
That’s my theory. I might be wrong, but... Nolan’s Odyssey is a Trojan Horse!
P.S. And even if I’m wrong, it’s all about the story and the emotions. Once you’re immersed, all this "miscasting" drama will just vanish – especially considering these characters aren't even the leads and will likely flash on screen for maybe 2 to 5 minutes total. If the execution is good, the real world disappears, and Nolan knows exactly how to deliver that. People go to the cinema for the experience and the story, not just for the names on the poster. You need top-tier talent to draw people in, but their real job is the quality of performance that makes that immersion possible.
Analog Horror Recommendation!
I recently watched Kwite react to the Midwest Angelica Analog Horror series and I would love to see more people react and talk about this series!
It’s really well done and has amazing imagery and story!
Kocco animation
I was scrolling thru mindless yt shorts when i stumbled onto this weird animation, at first i thought it was just low quality Animation..but when I looked deeper into it..it looked soo weird.
Yt-
https://youtube.com/@kocooanimation-english?si=ks3yKno5tzF7zE2g
Website-
https://hirohataworld.com/ (the website is much more of a trip)
The website is all in Japenese which..i obviously can't read. But this isn't just surface level bad quality. I watched some videos (which btw have this weird music that almost sounds..hypnotic??) , and in each one i couldn't help but get a weird vibe from this. Also heard there is some book involved in the website??. Maybe idk. But someone or film theory should look into this who knows maybe it's a gold mine.
To anyone who believes the "Jax is Scratch Theory" How do you explain Jax making the breaking bad reference when the show came out in 2008 while Scratch entered the Circus in 1996?
What will happen first
Film Theory covers Multiverse Tales
Multiverse Tales animated series or movie
Does Gangle form TADC have some form of DID?
DID or Dissociative Identity Disorder is a disorder that forms when a child experiences repeated trauma! This is not a light subject; do be warned if you're sensitive to mental health.
So I have this theory that Gangle has DID. This is represented by her masks (Her comity mask, and the one from episode 4 Fast Food Masquerade) and how, when wearing them, she seems to be a different person in most ways. We can also see this with the "Evil Gangle" from episode 5, "Untitled," who acts completely differently from her.
I know this is most likely a stretch, but if someone would look into it more, that would be amazing.
This theory about Luv could change everything if you watch BR-2049 again
Theory: Actually, Luv is the real daughter of Rachael/Deckard.
Luv was conceived in that very sexual relationship where Deckard was agressive and pushed Rachael.
There are several parallels and similarities between her and Rachael.
In the HQ (Blade Runner 2039) Wallace only says Luv is constructed by him, but he could be lying.
Ana Stelline maybe know much more about Luv than we are told. There are several gaps in the movie. And the parents of Ana are others.
And is possible that K at the end arrives to this conclusion.
He persecute Luv not just to save Deckard, but also to kill Luv. Luv as a leader of the replicants could be extremaly dangerous.
He says to Deckard "You died in that car which drowned".
Plus: there are some references to Sylvia (gemini), whose birthday is ten years before the enigmatic date of the film. The director is playing with binaries: 01, 10....
Sylvia is the first one of June. June is the mother of IUV-entus.
Sylvia means something like forest, wild, and when K visits Ana for the first time, she is creating a memory in a forest.
Of course, there is also the theory where Luv and K were twin brothers.
film theory sugestion: is two faces's coin an actual 50/50 chance in the dark knight?
if the coin is half burnt shouldn't it affect the results? it's a simple idea but I'm genuinely curious
Secrets of the musical
The code on Tom's door in pigpen reads ehikheelzj
I cant find what to do from here to continue decoding can you help.
The Narrator in Pocoyo is Autistic and I made a list to prove it
I made a list of things of each Autism symptom and things related to the diagnosis and put the episode of Pocoyo next to that related symptom.
Also, since ADHD and Epilepsy are under the Autism umbrella, I have to include them too because I have Epilepsy and, I guess, half of ADHD because I guess I also have it as well as BPD (idk).