u/AffectionateWord7761

Does Kit need a redemption arc?

I don’t think he’s enough of a villain (just a jerk at times) to require one, but the majority of viewers appear to despise him. I’ve done the maths and I think I can say he’s the 5th most hated character (although; I adore him most of the time). Sam might now be ahead.

Carl has been redeemed (I can’t quite remember how, was it to do with the gun?)

What could Kit for the viewers to stop hating him? Is it even possible?

I know naturally getting cancer doesn’t make up for what he’s done, but if he confesses he hates who he is and feels he deserves it (I don’t think he does), would the viewers go easier on him, or are there some that hope he won’t survive?

What if he locks up Ross, Jodie, Idris & Lucy?

The Beth thing was awful, but I don’t see how he could make up for that (unless he brings Craig back to life). It should never have happened in the first place and I can only hope the writers were intending on him being more evil than he actually is (& Beth never would’ve left Craig or Kirk by choice). I also hate the way he acted towards Gary.

This SL should show a different side of him (esp with Brody). He has been given a LOT of screen time, but it’s been more to do with work than his personal life. I hope he’ll become a nicer person.

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u/AffectionateWord7761 — 5 days ago

Ages of characters

Reposting bc it’s been a year. The previous post now only includes the absent/ deceased characters.

Harper: 7.5 months
Frankie: 2
Dorin: 4
Alfie: 4
Glory: 5
Shanice: 6 (or later this month; assumed)
Quads: 6
Bertie: 7
Susie: 8
Harry: 10
Joanie: 12 (or later this month)
Lily: 13 today
Jake: 13
Ruby: 14 next month
Joseph: 14
Sam: 15
Hope: 15
Lucy: 15 (17/8 irl)
Jack: 16 next week (19 irl)
Will: 16
Liam: 17
Brody: 17 (20 irl)
Dylan: 18
Betsy: 19 next month (retconned, 24 irl)
Lauren: 20 (24 irl)
Asha: 21 (retconned, 24 irl)
Summer: 22 on Fri (28 irl)
Amy: 22
Nina: 24
James: 25/6 (36 irl)
Bethany: 26 (30 irl)
Ollie: 26/7 (assumed)
Daniel: 31
Chesney: 32
Kit: 33 (36 irl)
Alya: 33 (38 irl)
Ryan: 34
Michael: ~36
David: 35 (38 irl)
Gemma: 36 (39 irl)
Adam: 38
Eva: 38 (42 irl)
Shona: 38 (41 irl)
Alex: 39
Sarah: 39 (43 irl)
Carl: 39
Gary: 40
Izzy: 40 (51 irl)
Todd: 41
Fiz: 42 next month
Maria: 43
Tyrone: 43
Toyah: 44
Kirk: 44
Abi: 43
Leanne: 45
Nick: 45 (54 irl)
Ben: 46/7
Tracy: 49
Sean: 50 next month
Glenda: 50 (47 irl)
Carla: 51
Steve: 52
Tim: 54
Mary: 55/6
Ronnie: 56
Bernie: 57
Debbie: 57
Sally: 59 (63 irl)
George: 60
Kevin: 61 next week
Ed: 62 next month
Dev: 62
Brian: 63
Ross: 63
Maggie: 65
Roy: 72 next month (77 irl)
Evelyn: 80
Audrey: 86 (81 irl)
Ken: 86 (94 irl)
Rita: 94

Unknown (any ideas?)

Jodie (27 irl)
Danielle (44 irl)
Idris (44 irl)
Mel (49 irl)
Lisa (50 irl)
Richie (51 irl)
Christina (55 irl)
Celeste (68 irl)

Updating daily

I’ve only included the ages of the actor, if they’re significantly different.

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u/AffectionateWord7761 — 2 months ago

Ages of characters

Reposting bc it’s been a year. The previous post now only includes the absent/ deceased characters.

Leyla Jr: 4 months
Evan: 2
Ivy: 2
Thomas: 4
Eve: 6
Isaac: 8
Dotty: 10 next week
Johnny: 11 next month
Clemmie: 11
Moses: 11
Lucas: 11
Carl: 11
Archie: 13
Kyle: 14
Leo: 15
April: 17
Angel: 17
Elliot: 18 (or later this month)
Dylan: 18
Arthur: 19 tmw
Sarah: 21 (23 irl)
Jacob: 23
Lewis: 24
Gabby: 24
Vinny: 24/5 (29 irl)
Belle: 27
Joe: 31
Dawn: 32, possibly retconned to 29 next month (30 irl)
Matty: 32 (36 irl)
Billy: 33
Aaron: 34
Ryan: 35
Ross: 36 (40 irl)
Robert: 40
Mack: 42/3 (34 irl)
Nicola: 48 (52 irl)
Chas: 48
Sam: 49 (53 irl)
Kerry: 49 (42 irl)
Mandy: 49
Caleb: 50
Rhona: 50
Ruby: 50
Vanessa: 50
Charity: 50
Jai: 51 next month
Lydia: 51
Kev: 51
Cain: 51 (56 irl)
Laurel: 52
Marlon: 52 (57 irl)
Manpreet: 53
Charles: 53
Moira: 55 (51 irl)
Paddy: 57
Graham: 58 (52 irl)
Jimmy: 61
Bob: 65
Kim: 67
Bear: 73
Claudette: 73/4 (63 irl)
Mary: 76
Rodney: 76 (87 irl)
Eric: 81

Unknown (any ideas?)

Kammy (29 irl)
Serena (30 irl)
DS (Thea) Ramsden (35 irl)
Liam (44 irl)

Updating daily.

I’ve only included the ages of the actor, if they’re significantly different.

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u/AffectionateWord7761 — 2 months ago

What’s going on with Kit?

Sorry; another longgggg post. I’m super invested, so I’ve analysed everything important that’s happened this week and last (hence, the spoiler tag). He can’t be acting this way due to Sarah & Harry, bc the frequent phone msgs must be for a reason.

Mon 10/08- Sarah dumps him. He’s devastated and chooses her over his job. Does he believe he’s dying and wish to spend his final moments with her and not in work? 😭

Tues 11/08- he ignored a msg and then called them, telling them he’d ‘be there’ (office hours 9-6). It couldn’t have simply been arranging LBS for Harry, bc he knows Glenda, so would not have used his full (first and last) name, it would’ve simply been ‘Kit’ and he might’ve used hers too. I’m not sure if he’d be Harry’s secondary contact anyway, it might be Adam or Bethany.

Wed 12/08- no ep

Thur 13/08- in a slightly better mood and could still play footy with Harry.

Fri 14/08- no see

Mon 17/08- was looking upset in his car and holding his phone. Why wasn’t he in the flat? Maybe Bethany was there or he’d just been to an appt. He’d lied about working. He responded ‘whatever’ when Bethany mentioned Sarah, so maybe she’s the last thing on his mind.

Tue 18/08- was in an alright mood with Brody. When visiting Sarah, he seemed as if he was going to tell her something, he stated he had ‘a lot going on’.

Wed 19/08- I think some time ago, he would’ve jumped at the chance of Brody moving in with him, but he instantly rejected him and barely had any reaction to the question (he seemed upset about losing Harry). There was another msg which he ignored and he left as soon as Bethany arrived, he looked and sounded emotional. He willfully chucked money away during poker (was it £500, £3k or £3.5k?) and didn’t care that he’d lost. He even snapped at Brody for feeling uncomfortable with it.

Thur 20/08- no see (which is ridiculous). Did he apologise to Brody?

Fri 21/08- no see

Wed 26/08- >!Bethany will find blood on his top. I think we’re meant to assume he’ll hurt Brandon, but maybe it’s his own blood. I’m not sure which kind of illness would cause someone to bleed.!<

Fri 28/08- >!Bernie will tell him he needs to look out for himself, does she know or is she referring to Sarah dumping him?!<

He was planning on being tested for the MND gene in 2024, but Bernie told him that due to having a different father, he’s very unlikely to get it. Also, would the writers really put her through that again? If he has an illness, such as cancer, he’d have a chance of survival, but MND is terminal.

He’s never been in this state before, not even when Amanda, Paul, the baby or Craig died. He’d never been drinking (a lot) until last week, with the only exception being the day of Craig’s memorial. Oh, I hope the calls aren’t about him having an “affair” (he’s technically single). He could be trying to help Sarah.

>!Bernie’s already got an ill relative, so could Celeste be the one to get through to him?!<

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u/AffectionateWord7761 — 2 months ago

Why aren’t Kit &amp; Brody sharing scenes?

Sorry; this is very long. I’ve commented about it many times, but surprisingly, this is my first post. I’m sure many don’t care; but I know at least a few are also annoyed.

I’m ns what’s aired yet in Canada, so I’ve blocked out a bit.

It’s been a year since they started spending time together, but NOTHING has happened, not a hug (Bernie & Brody have twice) or even a fist bump. They’ve only interacted onscreen 5 times in 7mo! Craig died due to their link, but we’re not gaining anything from it.

I’m not sure if I should be angry with Kit or the writers. The very few times we see them together, they do get on very well, so it’s possible they interact every (other) day, but it’s offscreen as the producers want Kit’s screen time to be 90% cop- or bf- related. He may not be as deadbeat as some viewers believe. Lisa’s got the same job (she’s actually higher in status), but we still get to see her parent her adult child (even before the >!stroke!<).

I’m glad they spent Brody’s bday together (I wish the PS opening & playing had been onscreen), but I’m gutted Kit was on secondment during his. It was also Craig’s anniversary, so a discussion about not being able to celebrate would’ve been sweet.

Kit’s problem with Idris only lasted two eps. Does he know Brody either >!beat up the same man twice, or two men separately!< (and that’s only we know of)? Why haven’t Sally or Tim told him anything about the car scene? He knows >!Betsy had a stroke, but does he know Brody was blamed for it and was accused of attacking Dylan?!< Does Brody know/ care that his future stepmum is also a murderer? Is he angry he got arrested, partly due to her? Also, what’s happened with the Mal incident? Bernie paid Brody to sus Kit out, but he hadn’t asked if he’d done it.

This isn’t due to the bio link, but I think it’s odd Brody still refers to Mick as his dad. Bethany’s even done it (as a joke), and Harry might want to (even though he didn’t with Adam). It made sense last year, but as we’re now hearing he was abusing Lou for a while before they moved here, why isn’t it just ‘Mick’ now? I’m sure Brody would rather say his dad is a copper than a wife- beating murderer. Kit’s no saint, but Brody doesn’t know a lot about him. I can understand with Idris, as he’d never met Mick, but Betsy would’ve known whom he meant. Maybe the wedding will mirror Bernie’s (without the asthma attack). The best man thing would be more sweet; if Kit had anyone else to ask.

Some say Betsy should be with Brody instead (which I can understand). Did the writers put her with Dylan, not only bc he’s closer in age but also bc his dad is never given any other SL and gets to be involved in his son’s life?

Next week, >!Sarah will dump Kit and he’ll confide in Jodie, but she’s the wrong person!!< >!🍕😭!<>! !<

When we compare them to other soap characters, they’re severely lacking:

Zack & Barney had lived together and hugged after under a year. Jasmine had already called Zoe ‘Mum’ after 6mo. Kev has sung to Lewis, told he loves him, disclosed his past, changed his surname, baked him a cake and danced with him; all within 6 weeks.

Has one of them got to be injured/ ill for them to show they care about each other?

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u/AffectionateWord7761 — 2 months ago

Absent parents

Please don’t read the blocked out bits if you haven’t seen this week or read the previews for next week.

This is insanely long, so I might be downvoted (oh, I already have) before anyone starts reading (& bc some might find the post disrespectful, not my intention at all- it’s just out of curiosity). I’ve been wanting to post this for months, but >!Tyrone’s father joining has made it more relevant. At least it’s not Kevin.!< There are so many absent bio parents (particularly fathers) that have never been seen or even mentioned. I know a lot of viewers likely don’t care; but I’d like to see/ hear about all of these.

Fiz & Chesney- I know it would be out of character for Cilla to have stayed with one man; but why give all three children different fathers if we’re not going to see them?

Todd- all we know is his father is called Duncan and it was Tony that had mentioned him. Has Todd? Having him kill Theo would’ve been interesting and unexpected, but too late for him to start caring.

Eva- has she ever met or even mentioned her father? Even Toyah’s met hers, once. Does Susie know hers has passed? She knows it’s not Ben, but I’m not sure how much she exactly knows about Aidan.

Bethany- she knows he’s passed, I’m not sure if she ever got to meet him. I wonder if she’s annoyed that Sarah never allowed him into her life. Does Harry know his is dead and was Max’s father too?

Kit- his adoptive father called him to tell him about Amanda’s death, but that was two years ago and there hasn’t been a mention since. Does he even know about Brody? Will he ever want to meet him? I’d like the bio father to arrive, he might be 7ft tall. The writers could’ve had him be Denny (although, the height wouldn’t make sense), as Bernie still had three young children in her 20s, so likely would’ve given him away anyway. >!If teenagers Hope & Ruby could track Ross down,!< surely detective Kit could find his (maybe he’s not interested).

Summer- does she ever wonder about her bio parents? It wouldn’t degrade her three dads. Acc to the wiki, Drew & Charlie adopted her, so the father must’ve also been a donor or both were a couple and gave her up.

Betsy- I know the Swarla stans would be disgusted, but I’d like to see the donor. She’s old enough to have contact with him now and he wouldn’t be raising her, she might just be curious. He could be part of her >!stroke!< SL. He was mentioned last year; but part of Lisa’s lie. Some think it’s Kit, but he was only 13 when she was conceived.

Lauren- what happened to and what was the point of Reiss mentioning that he might not be her father? Imagine it being Callum 😳. Will we ever see her mother? I guess not, as she didn’t arrive when Lauren went missing. Again, not Kit, he would’ve been 11 at conception.

Will Joel’s parents ever return for Frankeh? Dee Dee’s gone, so there’d be no point in finding out about the abortion lie.

Is there a chance of seeing Denny again? (Not that we need to). What about Doug Ramsey?

Oh and does Dorin remember what his mum looks like?

Have I missed anyone?

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u/AffectionateWord7761 — 3 months ago