u/Alaskan91

You need to be careful. To many seemingly pro Asian people really only care about the fact they canot get a girl, and this cry constantly about these mourders, but truth is they don't really care about long term asian issues that actually drive rampant outmarriage, such as zero ingroup biases (Asians helping out Asians under the table, a perk that other minorities experiences but esp not east Asians), lack of investment in culture, and other fun asian stuff to the point where Asians lack emotional incentive to marry in, and the zero emotional involvement of asian dad's and brothers in their sister/daughters lives, which in other cultures pushes them towards men of their own race. I

have this alot in my comments history.

Instead most Asians only see the here and now, which is they hope to scare asian women away from non Asian men by spam posting about asian woman being murdered by non Asian men**

But they don't understand that women see everything in terms of resources, subconsciously, for any theoretical future kids. Since east Asians don't really have each other's backs, there are less resources. Women will literally risk their lives for resources subconsciously, for their hypothetical nonexistent kids.

Women risk their lives every day to protect their kids in the even of disasters, think about that

So women will still get with non Asian men if they think there is more resource potential.

And the guy doesn't even have to by Whyte. He just has to come from a background eigbmore tangible or intangible (like social networks) resources to offer than a low risk low reward lineat thinking asian dude who was taught to walk away from confrontation all the time

Hell, I even know Korean women that got with blacck dudes and now are rabid about getting their blasian teenagers into special internship spots designated for blacck teens, or blacck scholarships. Or a viet-chinese woman married to an Indian man who has seen how south Asians and Indians in general in America help each other out so much more than low risk and fearful/nonconfrontational Chinese people do. She had basically abandoned Chinese acquaintances and friends since she gets more goodies being on the outskirts of south asian groups than being in the center of east asian/Chinese/groups. Even Viet groups,.which are more social than Chinese groups, lack the big picture life strategizing of soug asian social groups. She has abandoned her bbuddist temple and her kids ONLY participate in two circles: a mixed circle with south Asians and whytes, and a south asian circle. Her bbuddist temple friends offered her NOTHING close to what her Hindu temple friends offered her, despite her being a fringe character at her local Hindu temple as she herself doesn't speak Hindi and she is Viet Chinese married to an Indian American guy she met in college.

The very fact that so ma y people like to post about difjdndns asian woman murdered by firkejfn non Asian guy, just means a severe lack of understanding of people and their emotional and psychological drivers. This is genetic? Can't discuss it here. This is cultural? Confusicsm for sure is so rule set that people can just blindly follow the hierarchy without need to actually understand each other. There is no need to cozy up emotionally with emotional intelligence to your daughter to get her to help you if she is obligated to help u through filial piety.

Asians are really just focused on obedience to authority, which in this case is whomever has power. and even Asian men want to get out. If both parties had success then the outmarriage rates wood prolly be so high there would be no Asians by tomorrow night. I exaggerate, but not really.

Also east asian are obsessed with excuses. Can't beat that racist guy up since I'm short? 10220 shorter Hispanics have beat up bullies taller than them. I can't say anything I'll risk my job and I studied too hard! A double phD Persian guy has just as much to lose than u, and he spoke up. Can't refer my fellow asian in case they mess up after they get hired it might come back to me! South Asians refer each other all the time. I'm jimmy Lu or grace ha and I hate David Lee (or lilly Chan). because he beat me math Olympiad when I was 15 so I refuse to chat and exchange under the table info with him! It's not my fault! I hate other Asians! More competition. Another excuse!! South Asians are just as competitive academically as east Asians and they don't spend the entire lives hating each other and vying to be the "token" asian! Excuses!

East Asians such be called "Excuse Asians!'

To be east asian is to be walking around filled with excuses to rationalize that u lack ballz and they are just empty, shriveled sacks serving no purpose but to make you post endless, shallow posts about Asian women getting murered by non Asian men as if it will do anything. But, it's not ur fault, as ur parents prolly emphasizes Kumon and piano over emotional intelligc e anyways. I'm kidding. But not really.

Asians don't get it per usual.

This waa verbalize to me, so lets assume its true and analyze the dybamics

A chinese woman in hongdae in Korea overhead some white ladies on the street talk bad s1ht about chinese people. This chinese lady proceeds to then physically cat fight/assault the 2 whyte ladies.

Koreans proceed to say that the chinese lady was in the wrong, and how the chinese lady was proving the stereotype of chinese being low class. Here are 2 whyte ladies hating on csomething. Calling them low level scum, while walking down the Hongdae street, and the chinese lady proceeds to act like a low class chinese person and get physical.

The end conclusion by koreans is that chinese are terrible and proving themsleevs to act like a stereotype and should not have acted the 2 whyte wimen..

But: is this not another case of asians thinking delusionally that takijg the higher road is somehow more worthy? Not to mention the rampant whyte worship in Korea in general to the point where they are now deliberately pushing wasains in kpop and even full Caucasians.

All I know is that in Canada and USA, whyte people, at least most of them, dare not talk cr@p about certain minorities in public. Partly put of fear of them fighting back physically. But the same people will be racist openly to asians in public bc asians will stabd there and take it rather than fight back. Similarly, in europe, most whyte men will taunt east asian women with sexual jokes and even straight up game them and screw then over knowing the east asian woman's brother could care less.

Meanwhile the same euro german trash wont dare go F over Gizem the hot girl with Turkish immigrant parents solince gizem brother Bilal will go find and beat them up if Gizem gets hurt.

I hope those won't turn into s discussion on how there are better ways to handle it, and all the nitpicky stuff on that east asian personalities are infamous for (which is partially responsible for the intra asian hate..inmean At least she did aomething.

Why are east asian so clueless when it comes to social dynamics?

In other minority groups, even the wealthy gulf Arab groups and many south asian groups, people really respect you when you help out your ethnic community once u have made it. In fact the Africxan ameicn community doesnt respect wealth u less they have done something for their people.

With asians its like completely 1 dimensional. Are asian? Have monies? Respect! (???) The patheticness of that and lack of emotoonal depth on that is sticking to me.

Let's take panda express abd nvidia. Asians worship them, but what have they dint fir other asians?

Hell, even panda express Mexican workers always overscoop their unhealthy food for othe rhisoanics and will underscoop for asians in most places I've been.

And yet panda express is trying to help 55,000 of their workers, mostly hisoanic, buy homes? Instead of helping the asia community? Im hoping its just PR. This is no different than fillipinas worshiping Olivia Rodriguez only for her to give money to the blacck community.

Is it genetic? Can't go into it per rules.od this forum. I mena it does track with what I experienced growing up which was asians wont take a risk for other asians. But all other groups will for each other. And constantly too.

Ive always been jealous at seeing other minorities stick their neck.out for people of their own kind, as east asians (especially chinese), wont do that. But it seems no east asians are jealous of what they are missing out on. Its mind blglgong.

No wonder everybody is trying to get out id the asian tribe. Asian guys woukd have 90 putmarriage id they got a chance, too.

I recently left all the asian american business group I was in due to them failing to protect their own spaces.

Meanwhile, the majority white, majority ethnicity of any kind (but east asian), gatekeep their own ethnic group such that it also serves as an emotional support mechanism. This is important for several reasons

1. only others of ur own ethnicity have the ability (and therefore the chance) to understand what u go through. This validation is important to put the blame on societal racism rather than just self-hate.

2. ethnic based groups allow pattern seeking recognition talk that allows people in that group to learn how to deal with peopel from other groups differently.

3. asians are too objective and dont protect safe spaces for our own.

The asian american business group I was in was OK with letting in random white people. This is probably thr 10000 iteration of this. I hate to see patterns repeat, but obviously they started poaching the asian girls there a d preventing discussion of what to do when being in business conflict with white people (due to cultural and individualism, asians have to act more aggressively in business dealings when interacting with certain group). Basically, the whyte ppl in the group joined a space that wasn't meant for them, then had no fear in taking up space.

A few month later, a few useless vendors of middle eastern descent showed up to this asian buisness group and proceeded to do the same thing. They were accepted by most people openly (asian r too welcoming), then proceeded to viciously hawk their crappy business card or portrait services and ask business questions while NEVER giving any business advice BACK to the community. ..finally an asian man and I confronted these middle eastern people and said we are an asian group and you have done nothing but suck resources. Guess what the other asians did? Tried to keep the peace and let them stay.

Meanwhile, the middle eastern vendors claimed they were asian bc their country waa on the landmass of asia They have no visible asian ethnicty in their face at all. Therefore they cant possible experience what its like to be asian in business.

Over time, these 2 groups of outsiders viciously eroded the group, poached all the single asian woman by viciously not giving up and chasing them for up to a year, and offered zero resources back.

The group mentioned above are ** in person groups**

Meanwhile, I also joined 2 groups online;

An open for everybody group and an asian business group.

I was involved in a dispute where I was 99 peecent right and they were 1 percent wrong. That how lopsided it was.

This particular whyte person i was in a dispute with was the type of whyte person with a highly curated profile, went to a college that was 100k a year cost of attendance, etc. Ive found these people to want to do less work and they want everything their way

I posted in both groups about it. In the everybody group, I described them as trust fund people from a high COA college. In the asian group I described their ethncity

The everybody group: i was wrong for bringing up their college, its unnecessary, perhaps im jealous of them, as only rich white people attend that 100k/yesr liberal arts college,.t, they did nothing wrong blah. Blah. Meanwhile few asian in that group told me to compromise.halfway *(typical asian mentaliy). The non asian non whyte ppl were silent.

The asian group; just let it go, its not worth it, meet them halfway, blah blah. No mention of their own experiences, even anonymously, dealing with entitled better than everybody attitde whyte people

Recently, my community, whicb has alot of asians, is turning to shyt. My actual community where I live. Why? The asians on the HOA board wont tow the people from a nearby complex unless they first put a warning courtesy sign for a few weeks. We already have limited parking as It is. The non asian members want to just tow from the start but the asians are scared of the risk. Everything to asians about about risk reduction, confeontation reduction, and how to spend ur time compromising to others even when others are wrong.

No wonder all the neighboring people abuse and use my own community street parking which is legalle for our community use only. They can just park and take advantage since they get warning signs for a few weeks first. Again, asians unwillingness to peotect their own space.

As asians, we dont validate each other, we dont support each other emotionally, are too objective, and dont protect our own spaces. Being too objective in a country where entitlement creates action means the end result is to self hate and want to just be whyte. Placing the blame on ourselves rather than on society.