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Savio clearly looks worse there, Marmoush doesn’t look like he wants to play there, I still trust Tel long term but games where he doesn’t start show a difference imo

A Rashford, Ndiaye, Leao type player today and we probably win that, someone with experience playing there

I think if we’re insistent on playing a 10, let Tonali or Marmoush play there with Fernandes next to Bentancur

I’m not upset at that performance, very dominant first half possession wise and pretty much all game Everton didnt really get a sniff, we’re a few tweaks away imo

Completely anonymous which is actually incredible

Like offensively he’s not created or done anything

Defensively he’s not shown up with pressing either

He needs to stop playing at the 10, literally put Bergvall there or even Tel and have Savinho/Kudus on the wings

Us not getting another forward will hold us back for awhile

Side note Tonali has had a great 1st half

Has not played for two years aka he’s not fit…

It’s a loan…with an option to buy at 75m

Even when he was fit he did nothing in the league…

So we’re basically taking Chelsea’s player for a season, making him match fit/more prem ready to either buy him at an inflated price or send him back so they can sell him and recoup money…?

We have given RDZ far too much power. Way too much. If he doesn’t get this team ticking do people realise how fucked we are? Literally the success of this project relies on Tel becoming a consistent winger at 21

Why didn’t we just go for Leao?

Yes disappointing to lose, but clear difference compared to last week. We will be picking up points IF we get more clinical, first half you could see clear signs of coaching

They scored two very, very fortunate goals and didnt really look dangerous most of the game. Give the squad and manager some time to grow into the season and stop trying to start witch hunts

I would’ve taken Tel off for Solanke, I think this team needs a big man up front

I’ve noticed this over the last two seasons…is it because the fanbase can’t really tell when it’s a tactical/coaching problem?

I’ve seen people saying Tel was crap and is never going to be good enough after Saturday, I have no idea how you look at the Brentford game and not think it was a coaching issue and De Zerbi got it wrong.

I saw the same with Palhinha last season - it’s like second there’s an agenda amongst the fanbase suddenly reality goes out of the window

People had no issue critiquing Ange instead of the players but suddenly when Frank was doing bad it was because the squad was terrible? What do you think a coach is for?

Edit: I should specify I’m mainly interested in hearing from fans of the ‘other 14’ clubs

I come in peace not here to argue just genuinely curious about this hypothetical. I’ve seen alot of discussion around PSR/whatever the new financial rule is this summer, so looking to see some more detailed discussion

If the super league returned, and the ‘big 6’ were kicked out of the prem for joining, how many of you would be happy with that situation?

In this scenario they would be replaced by the top 6 championship clubs, so effectively everyone will move up the ladder.

The current sky deal will continue til the 28/29 season, but after that will have to be renegotiated.

Feel free to add any caveats ie “yes, as long as xyz happens” or ask any questions about anything ive missed out on

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I saw it with Bergvall, I’m seeing it with Spence, and I’m seeing it with Romero what the hell is going on with the fanbase?

Why are people trying to assassinate these players characters because they want to leave the club (For good valid reasons)? Just say thanks for your service and leave it what is with all this rubbish about the players? It’s pathetic

I understand he done a massive job last season keeping us up but I’m concerned with how much the board is backing his decision making…it feels like an overcorrection to last season.

A. We have no europe/one game a week…we were not going to finish 17th again with a competent manager. Why not use this season to bleed players in? It’s low stakes

B. Some of the figures and players have been baffling. If Tonali fails to perform I know for a fact people are going to bring up his transfer fee even though he wasn’t the one that decided it. We’re now looking at Gakpo for 70m (!)

C. I don’t think this will be a consistent sustained investment, once we begin finishing in european spots again I think the board will again ease off and cite this summer as part of the reason.

D. Yes, De Zerbi done a good job but everyone should be apprehensive that we’re giving a manager this much power over the transfers

I recently made a thread about the expectations for this season and saw people saying top half 6th-8th was good enough…what? We’re looking at an almost 400m window at one game a week. United finished 15th two season ago had 40ish games last season and finished 3rd

Please give two predictions

A. our squad as it currently is now (and the rumoured departures so no bergvall, romero, sarr etc)

And

B. Our squad with Kroupi + Savio (and the rumoured departures so no bergvall, romero, sarr etc)

One game a week…where should RDZ be finishing? As a reminder Ange finished 5th with no europe

Why are people suddenly defending the clubs footballing decisions regarding our academy/young players…?

How do people think the club has mismanaged the first team but has somehow got the academy spot on…?

It is embarrassing some of the takes I’ve seen around it, people lying to themselves about “the youth players not being good enough” “if they were good enough they would’ve made an appearance by now” “its not like they’re yamal or pedri who cares” “this happens at all the top clubs”

These same people will then justify spending 50m+ on another clubs young player lol…or they will criticise a young player for wanting to leave saying they’re entitled

Why does a young player have to be a starter in order for us to keep them at the club? We genuinely may as well get rid of the academy like Brentford

Anyone else extremely confused why Gray gets so much love from fans and seemingly the club

I dont think he’s as bad as what I thought he was in his first season but people are going in like he’s a wonderkid and will be in the england set up soon

I see him and think his ceiling is Bentancur’s level, good but not some world class talent

I think Bergvall is the much bigger talent and people were happy to let him go, confused on why Gray is seemingly seen as untouchable

Can someone please explain why people are picking and choosing when buying/developing young players is OK…?

I’ve had people argue we need to drop young players and start buying more established talent because the young players were the reason for the last two seasons (They weren’t)

Yet I’ve seen people get excited sbout us buying Savinho (21 y/o) for 50-60m, and now Fernandes for even more (21 y/o)

I’m also seeing people excited about some of these younger wingers we’re looking at…do you guys understand if our young players were in these teams they’d be performing just as well??

I’ve come to understand people don’t actually care about age, ability etc they just care that it LOOKS like we’re doing something by spending alot even if it’s detrimental/non-productive

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I’m completely confused on how this Vuskovic situation has sprung up…yes RDZ deserves some control over the footballing strategy but why is he being allowed this much after a few games?

Yes he kept us up but he’s not even given Vuskovic a chance? I’m now seeing reports of us signing Gakpo…wtf

Why are we rushing a rebuild in such a low stakes season? This feels like a complete overreaction to two years of under reacting - I fear we’re lining up even more problems in 2-3 seasons

Alright, everyone! Hope this is alright to post.

It seems like you're on the verge of signing Savinho from City, so I thought I'd give an overview of how City fans feel about him and how I feel about him personally? Delete if you want, mods.

I'll be honest, virtually no City fan is sad about this deal. 99.9% of us are fine with him going. Getting £60m for him is honestly being seen as a really unexpected surprise.

I'll start with the pros. There are some. He's got that ability to run in a slow-FAST-slow-FAST-slow-FAST-FAST manner that full-backs absolutely hate. He's good at nipping away from people and finding space behind his full-back.

There have been occasional patches of good form, especially over December to February in the 24/25 season, where he's worked really hard in a good run of games and has managed to combine his attributes with consistent effort for a few weeks.

He seems to have a decent relationship on the pitch with Haaland, too. He's provided more than a few assists for our big Norwegian number nine, which is something even Doku initially struggled with. It's only really De Bruyne who's really been in full sync with Haaland.

And the main headline, I suppose, is that he's still very young and has time to develop. He's 22 years old and won't be 23 until the end of next season. A manager like De Zerbi should be able to get something out of him, and might be forgiving with him than Guardiola ever was.

Now for the cons... Erm, honestly, we (the club and the fans) just don't think he's got it. That X factor wingers need. He's got all the individual ability and skill to be a top class wide player, but getting all the dots to connect at the same time seems like something he'll never quite manage.

He's definitely better on the left, where he can go on the outside of his full-back, but when the goal gets near it's like something takes over him. His finishing is nervy and weak, his crossing can be erratic. When he beats his man and gets a chance to cross, it's 50/50% that it'll even go near the right person.

He just has this annoying tendency to get himself into really good positions and then produce nothing. Then that missed chance gets in his head and he can't get it out. When he goes through on goal there's very little faith that he'll go round the keeper and score, or provide the perfect cut-back for a tap-in.

And on the right he just seems to get lost nowadays. Miscontrols the ball, struggles to beat his man, doesn't fully understand where he's meant to be, doesn't have that creative spark to beat a packed defence, and can't really be trusted to find something big when the chips are down.

He seems like a decent kid and he should have a really high ceiling in the right set-up, but a lot of Blues just don't think he's got that dog in him. The potential is mostly there, but he's not kicked on this year after a patchy but sorta promising first season. £60m this is a big risk for you guys.

Playing for a Spurs team that won't faced parked buses as often as City do might be the making of him. He definitely plays best against teams who don't sit in the box and leave a bit of space behind the full-backs on the counter. It might be the case that Pep was holding him back.

But... yeah, you guys will need to be patient with him.

Further reading:
The Bluemoon Forum transfer thread about Savinho: https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/savinho-may-2026-spurs-linked-again-p218.369146/page-218

Savinho's Bluemoon Forum performance thread from the 25/26 season: https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/26-savinho-2025-26.368689/

Just my opinion

i made a thread a few weeks back saying we shouldn’t rush the rebuild and seems like the club are doing exactly that…

Van de Hecke and Savinho

These are not smart signings imo, seems like they’re available and the club wants to take a punt on them

Signing above average-mediocre players for big money and high wages is stupid sorry, we have one game a week it’s the perfect opportunity to find out which of the young players are good enough

We may do well and people will use that as an example of something but this seems rushed and panicked imo

Use next season as a building block

Use youth players, give them minutes

We don’t need to rush straight back into europe/CL football

We have talent that just needs to be coached

It’s more beneficial to find out which young players have a chance here and which ones don’t

I get people want to win now but I think it has to come organically, we need to develop players

Does anyone else find it interesting how different the reception is on each platform…?

Youtube is like 90% positive comments, with less focus on the cast

Reddit is 90% negative, very anti joe and more critical of the pod and cast

Twitter is about 50/50 depending on the day or week, also noticed it’s more pro flip

I’ll link the thread/comment later but I’ve noticed from comments in this sub and other footy subs, so many non-fans speak confidently about our situation?

Is this a general thing or spurs specific? When did we get so many ‘neutrals’ who follow us?

The comments were complete nonsense (for some weird reason, non-fans were defending Frank lol) but was being upvoted which was shocking to me

Context: https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/ugTsVf2qIl