r/TheOther14

Rank	Year	Team	Pre-season relegation odds (implied survival %)	Actual Position	Actual Points
10	2007-08	Derby	11/20 (35%)	20 (R)	11
8=	2022-23	Bournemouth	4/9 (31%)	15	39
8=	2013-14	Crystal Palace	4/9 (31%)	11	45
6=	2025-26	Sunderland	2/5 (29%)	7	54
6=	2024-25	Leicester	2/5 (29%)	18 (R)	25
5	2008-09	Stoke	4/11 (27%)	12	45
3=	2025-26	Burnley	1/3 (25%)	19 (R)	22
3=	2023-24	Luton	1/3 (25%)	18 (R)	26
1=	2010-11	Blackpool	2/7 (22%)	19 (R)	39
1=	2008-09	Hull	2/7 (22%)	17	35

2026-27 Hull have been given 1/5 odds of relegation, a 17% implied survival probability. I can't be bothered to check any further back than 20 years (records are becoming impossible to find anyway), but I'd wager no team has been given worse odds. Coventry and Ipswich sit at 8/11 (42% survival).

Some other interesting facts I found while researching this:

• In the last 20 years, no non-newly-promoted side has been odds-on for relegation. Of the 60 newly promoted sides, 29 have been considered odds-on for relegation. Of those 60, 28 went down. If we include this year, that figure becomes 32/62, over half.
• The "best" newly promoted side by this metric were 2018-19 Wolves, who were 7/1 to go down. They went on to finish 7th with 57 points.
• The "best" newly promoted side to go down were 2023-24 Burnley, who were 7/2 for relegation, yet finished 19th with 24 points.
• The worst year for newly promoted teams was slated to be 2008-09, with a mean survival probability of 30% between them (Hull, Stoke, WBA). Despite having the best odds (8/11, 42%) of the three, it was only WBA who went down, while Hull and Stoke survived.
• The best year for newly promoted teams was slated to be 2018-19, with a mean survival probability of 64% between the three teams (Wolves, Cardiff, Fulham). However, both Cardiff and Fulham ended up relegated this season.
• The mean survival probability of the newly promoted teams have dropped steadily every year since 2020-21: From 58%, to 50%, to 47%, to 46%, to 42%, to 36%, to just 34% this year.

Source: mostly the wayback machine on oddschecker

Almost everyone was looking for a new manager, he's surely one of the best in Europe, proven in the premier League and has terrible ffp restrictions at villa and lost his team. Surely it wouldn't have taken much to pry him away?

Edit: I should specify I’m mainly interested in hearing from fans of the ‘other 14’ clubs

I come in peace not here to argue just genuinely curious about this hypothetical. I’ve seen alot of discussion around PSR/whatever the new financial rule is this summer, so looking to see some more detailed discussion

If the super league returned, and the ‘big 6’ were kicked out of the prem for joining, how many of you would be happy with that situation?

In this scenario they would be replaced by the top 6 championship clubs, so effectively everyone will move up the ladder.

The current sky deal will continue til the 28/29 season, but after that will have to be renegotiated.

Feel free to add any caveats ie “yes, as long as xyz happens” or ask any questions about anything ive missed out on

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For anyone who isn’t a Coventry fan, or perhaps isn’t fully aware of just how bad, depressing and miserable things got being a Coventry fan, this is well worth a watch (if you have a spare couple hours).

Years of awful ownership, points deductions, losing our stadium, playing home games in Northampton and Birmingham, and watching the club fall all the way to League Two.

There were genuinely times when it felt like we might never get our club back. To go from that to the Premier League in 8 years is just ridiculous. Hard to explain how much this means if you’ve lived through it all. What a journey. What a football club 🩵

A different one from me today lads. I asked fans, writers and content creators from all 20 Premier League clubs to predict the season. Here’s what they said.

This has probably been the biggest thing I’ve put together since starting After The Bell.

Over the last couple of weeks, I’ve been contacting fans, writers, podcasters and content creators from every Premier League club and asking them the same nine questions about the season ahead.

Where will their club finish? Who should opposition fans be watching? What’s their biggest concern? Who wins the league? Who goes down? And, because I’m a Leeds fan and it’s my website, where do they think Leeds will finish?

Countless emails, ignored DMs and increasingly desperate pleas later, I’ve finally got it finished.

There are some brilliant answers in here, some wildly different predictions, a surprising amount of love for Leeds — and several predictions that I’m sure will look absolutely ridiculous by May.

It took a serious amount of work to put together, so if you fancy having a read, I’d genuinely appreciate it.

The Premier League, According to the People Who Actually Care: 20 Clubs, 20 Voices, Predicting the 2026/27 Season

Everyone has that one prediction they’ll probably regret by the end of the season. Could be a team finishing much higher than expected, a player suddenly having a breakout year, or a manager doing something nobody saw coming. No need for a safe prediction here, go with the one you genuinely believe in even if it looks ridiculous right now.

Danny Ings type players who was at many sides

With what’s happened and still happening to Villa and Newcastle does any fan of an Other14 club still believe that the Premier League is truly fair or competitive and not just a feeder system for 6 clubs?

Do you just check the results afterwards or watch a few of the bigger games? Or do you not care at all?

The new season starts on Friday and I think my dodgy stick is gonna delete all replays from last year. Today and tomorrow are my last chances to watch any of last years Premier League games and since I have today off, today's the day!

I'm looking for the most entertaining games concerning the other 14, any recommendations?

Edit: Sunderland Bournemouth was fantastic fun, next up is Newcastle Leeds :)