u/Allison-Cloud

Hello everyone! I hope you are having a good day. I was just sitting here and that thing about the loaf of bread popped in my head because I hear it a lot.

This time I instantly thought "Isn't that already the case? has that not always been the case?"' I mean... If you make $3 a day, that's a loaf of bread in a days wages in some places. Without saying how much the days wage is this information is meaningless. Like... the bible really is just word salad.

Hello everyone! I hope you are having a good day. So, if we look in the OT god was doing all sorts of godly shit. What with fire tornados and zombies and stuff, making the sun stand still... however that works.

NT, there is a lot less. Now days it is "I needed $20 and someone gave me $20 without me telling them to. So, God."

Makes you wonder. Is it like The Santa Clause 2 and he has some watch showing him how much power he has left? Now god is up there in the clouds ranting and raving to Jesus about how he blew his entire load before the invention of the camera. Jesus is just smoking a joint like "Dude, I told you to hold off some. You were coming off a LOT like the fake god stories at the time. You went in really hard really fast. Made an impact on about 200 people who are all dead as fuck now, and you want people to beleive based on your book. I told you the book was trash."

God is getting mad at this point and screams "It's the best selling book on earth!!" Then he looks around before slouching his shoulders with a defeated "'There should have been lighting and thunder just then... can you just imagine that happened?" Jesus responds with "Sure, dad... why not." And walks off.

Hello everyone! I hope you are having a good day. So, out of all the arguments I have heard for god that are fully devoid of critical thinking and intellectual integrity the worst one might be the "Picture your mother, can you see her face. That picture can't be found in your head therefore you have a soul and god does a real".

The first time I heard this argument was from my uncle who is just kind of an idiot. Like, in everything. He has a million hot takes and they all suck and have not been thought out at all. Well, I have heard other people make this argument, have been seeing it online, some big name apologetics are using it. It baffles me that none of them have stopped to think about it for more than half a second and realize one of many problems with it.

I have some pictures saved on my computer. If you take my PC apart down to screws and wires, you won't find the pictures. Does my PC have a soul?

If you know how to make grilled cheese can I crack your head open and find the recipe in your head? Or is that something your soul knows how to make?

If you are a black person I can't crack your head open and find what makes you black, so it is your soul that makes you black? Now that is starting to sound a little racist.

If you are a woman I can't crack your head open and find the "woman" chip in there. Does that mean it is your soul that is a woman? I knew you all would come around to trans rights eventually.

When you see a dog having a dream. Can you crack their head open and find that dream? Does that mean dogs have souls too? If dogs have souls what makes humans special again?

I just can't with some people. And that was not even me trying, that is just a serries of reasons the logic is god awful based on just writing whatever came to my mind in the moment. Like, can people give their arguments 5 seconds of thought?

Hello everyone! I hope you are having a good day. There is a method I want to use with some of the people in my life when they talk about religion. Though I know it will heavily offend them and they will not see it as anything other than an attack which will have 0 effect in getting them to understand the point. So I don't bother because, unlike them, I avoid things that will offend people if they can be avoided.

The method is the one I call the "Pink Panda" method. I take on the role of someone who speaks to a pink panda that lives in their closet. They are the only one who can see or hear it. The panda told them it created everything. How would you convince them they are wrong about this panda? Then you just use all of their arguments to defend it. It basically turns the argument around and lets them see their points from the other side.

It bothers me that I feel like I have to walk on egg shells to keep the peace with people who have literally told me they care more about their god than me and if I make them pick it will be god... When all i asked was them not talk to ME about it. Because I care more about them than they care about me and I don't want to lose the good times we can have when they are not rambling about some fairytale bullshit and getting pissed that I don't agree with it.

EDIT: Typo fixed.

Hello everyone! I hope you are having a good day. I have heard many claims about atheist growing up. Some of the classics such as "there is no such thing as an atheist on their death bed" or "Atheist sure spend a lot of time fighting against something they claim to not beleive in".

I have also heard some more off the wall stuff such as my uncle saying, 100% unprovoked at a family dinner "People want to talk about the awful things done in the name of Christianity. What about all the stuff mustache man did in the name of atheism?" Like, we were just eating and chilling and he just blurts that out. Mustache man was a Christian, then become heavily critical of Christianity and Atheism. Also, strange whataboutism. "Your honor! Everyone is wanting to talk about the seven people I killed. What about the 20 people Jessy James killed?" And how do you do something in the name of atheism? "I don't beleive your claim, I am so fired up about how much I don't beleive you that I am gonna do some stuff about it."

I have also heard the claim that all atheist are in the occult and and all this stuff.

I was wondering what crazy claims have you heard Christians make about atheist or atheism?

Hello everyone! I hope you are having a good day, so... I am just wondering how someone can hold the claim "god gave us free will and will not mess with that" at the same time they hold the claim "everything happens according to gods will/plan."

You have to pick one, you can't have both. Either god gave me free will and I am making the choice to not follow him due to my free will or it is part of gods plan/will for me to be an atheist and I have no choice in the matter.

Since we are on the topic, the idea that god knows everything and exist "outside of time", whatever that means, would strip away the concept of free will. If every action we ever take is already known. That means we only think we are making a choice though we are on a preset path. Same the "gods plan/will" thing.

Do you have any idea how people can hold such mutually exclusive views without the cognitive dissonance setting off alarms?

Scene: Some pearly gates poking out of a cluster of clouds that are all connected by golden streets. Large man with a hefty white beard and long white hair(God) sits in a gaudy throne. His white robes pristine and shining like the sun. A younger man, brown beard, red eyes that are half closed, lose fitting robes made of hemp(Jesus) enters.

God: "I have decided I'm going to start my vacation today. No miracles or any godly interference for a bit. Just good old R and R for this OG."

Jesus: "Today? Today is when you want to start your vacation? I am not sure if that is the best idea... Also, I told you that saying "OG" for "Original God" isn't clever."

God: "Why would today be worse than any other day? I could have picked last Tuesday, or next Friday. I picked today. I'm god."

Jesus: "Well the invention of the camera was today. That would do a lot of good in showing the world your power. Like, dude... If you think about it, you could write a bible verse in the stars or something. If it was recorded the world would see it, it would be the most powerful tool in showing people our message."

God: "That was today? Are you sure?"

Jesus: "Dad... you know everything. Did you think that reply would work?"

God: "No."

Jesus: "Why are we even doing this bit right now? This is the worst time for your vacation."

God: "Well, I already put my feet up, I got my soda right here. Fuck, I'm not getting up right now."

Text on screen "160 years later."

God: lets out a long sigh that rumbles the heavens. ""Well, time to get back to it."

Jesus: "Dude... TODAY?"

God: "Well today is as good as any other day, I could have picked next-"

Jesus: Cuts God off with "No, no it is not. Today is the day that photo editing was made widely accessible... and why am I falling for this? You KNOW that."

God: "Bitch, my ways are mysterious"