
Crossing the Streams Part 4
did you catch the WINK WINK at the end?

did you catch the WINK WINK at the end?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrIoPtoWims
if interested in the Kings of shuruppak and his son. here are some instructions.
https://dn720002.ca.archive.org/0/items/instructions-of-shuruppak/Instructions_of_Shuruppak.pdf
Much of the Book of Deuteronomy is based on these instructions.
Original Word: תּוֹרָה
Part of Speech: Noun Feminine
Transliteration: towrah
Pronunciation: toh-RAH
Phonetic Spelling: (to-raw')
KJV: law
NASB: law, instruction, laws, teaching, custom, instructions
Word Origin: [from H3384 (יָרָה יָרָא - teach)]
This website presents these modern figures as "Key Authors on Atlantis." While many are influential in modern New Age or esoteric circles, none should be regarded as historical authorities on Atlantis.
The original Atlantis tradition begins with Plato, writing in the 4th century BC. His account is rooted in a chain of transmission:
These are the earliest surviving sources and form the foundation for every later Atlantis tradition.
By contrast:
Popularized Atlantis in the nineteenth century, but his work is speculative and attempts to explain nearly every ancient civilization through a lost Atlantic continent. His conclusions extend far beyond Plato's text.
Claimed knowledge through psychic "readings," not historical documents, archaeology, or ancient literature. His Atlantis differs substantially from Plato's account.
Presents information claimed to come from a channeled extraterrestrial consciousness. These claims have no historical connection to the Greek tradition or ancient sources.
Based her Atlantis material on hypnosis and past-life regression. These methods are not accepted as historical evidence and do not derive from classical texts.
Produced a spiritual narrative (A Dweller on Two Planets) describing Atlantis as revealed through automatic writing. It is fiction presented within an esoteric framework rather than ancient testimony.
Shares Atlantis narratives based on claimed personal spiritual memories. While meaningful to his followers, they are not contemporary evidence and cannot outweigh the original Greek sources.
The credibility of a historical source depends on its proximity to the events, its transmission, and the surviving textual evidence.
Plato wrote in the fourth century BC.
Every person shown on this page lived more than two thousand years later.
None had access to earlier manuscripts than Plato.
None preserved an independent ancient Greek tradition.
None are cited by ancient historians.
Their works may be interesting as modern interpretations or spiritual beliefs, but they are not equivalent to the original sources.
If we want to understand Atlantis historically, the proper order of authority is:
Popularity should never be confused with historical reliability. The oldest surviving sources remain the strongest foundation for understanding the Atlantis tradition.
you just got the AI of truth. yes its more complicated, but Removing plato from the List of relevant authors is Crystal magic of the dark kind.
when discussing Atlantis many academics tend to Plead to the authority of Current Dogma to defeat any theory with evidence by legitimate members of the community. Claims of Pseudo science are shouted and the ideas are later proven right with little lessons learned by academia about the erros of their behavior.
great look at another ancient work with echos of atlantis.
As mentioned on previous post about revelation 18 and its parallels to plato's Atlantis i have worked with the LLM (Demon) to produce a Conclusion to the Critias by Utilizing revelations to describe Zeus's speech missing. In this case ZEuS and the (Elohim) of the flood are the same council.
"Every city is founded twice: first in stone, and first also in the soul." quote LLM moral Lesson. i know AI has no value to many people, but in this case it has help to provide a comparison that would have taken me much more time. Please enjoy or grind your teeth.
The Lost Ending of Critias
...And when Zeus, who governs according to reason and whose judgments preserve the harmony of the cosmos, beheld that the divine portion within the descendants of Poseidon had grown faint beneath the increasing weight of mortal desire, he summoned all the immortal gods to the most sacred place at the center of heaven, from which every part of the world may be surveyed. There, when all had assembled in silence, Zeus arose.
"My fellow guardians of the eternal order, no city has received greater favor than Atlantis.
When the Earth was first divided among us, Poseidon accepted an island that was neither the largest nor the richest. Yet through diligence and divine wisdom he transformed it into a marvel among nations. He restrained the waters with rings of land and sea; he established ports where strangers might meet in peace; he filled the plains with abundance and taught his children that prosperity was to be governed by moderation.
For many generations they remembered these gifts.
They judged disputes without greed.
They w
elcomed foreigners without fear.
They gathered wealth without becoming its servants.
Power remained obedient to law because law remained obedient to reason.
Yet no blessing endures where memory fails.
The divine inheritance that once governed their souls has become diluted by continual preference for mortal ambition. Their rulers no longer ask, 'What is just?' but rather, 'What is profitable?' They measure excellence by possession rather than by virtue.
Observe their temples.
They are larger than before.
Their offerings are richer than before.
Their festivals are more magnificent.
Yet reverence has diminished even while ceremony has increased.
The stone has grown more splendid while the soul has become poorer.
Such worship honors appearance rather than truth."
The assembly remained silent.
Zeus continued.
"Look also upon their commerce.
The sea, which was given to unite distant peoples, has become the instrument through which every nation seeks luxury beyond necessity.
Their ships no longer carry merely grain, timber, and tools useful for life.
They carry ornaments whose purpose is vanity.
They transport treasures whose only measure is envy.
Kings compete to imitate Atlantis rather than to surpass her in justice.
Merchants praise gain while remaining indifferent to its cost.
Even philosophers have begun to flatter princes instead of correcting them.
Thus corruption spreads more swiftly than fleets.
The greatest empire becomes the greatest teacher.
If it teaches moderation, the nations prosper.
If it teaches excess, the nations imitate destruction."
Hermes inclined his head.
Athena regarded Zeus with thoughtful attention.
Apollo remained silent.
Then Zeus spoke again.
"Many suppose that cities perish because enemies become stronger.
This is seldom true.
A city first conquers itself.
Only afterward do its enemies discover that victory has already been achieved.
No wall falls before the foundations weaken.
No kingdom sinks before justice departs.
The destruction visible to men is merely the final appearance of an earlier and invisible decay."
Poseidon lowered his gaze toward the island that still bore his name.
His grief was not anger.
It resembled the sorrow of a father who recognizes his own children yet can no longer recognize their character.
Then Poseidon rose.
"Father Zeus, every word you have spoken is true.
When first I established Atlantis, I desired that mankind might witness how divine order could dwell among mortals.
For many generations they reflected that image.
Yet I cannot deny what now appears before us.
The rings I formed to preserve harmony have become circles of pride.
The harbors that welcomed every nation have become gates through which ambition enters.
The abundance I bestowed has become an excuse for indulgence.
What remains is the shell of what once possessed life."
Zeus answered gently.
"No judgment diminishes the goodness of your gifts.
Only those who misuse them bring judgment upon themselves.
The sun remains blameless when a man closes his eyes."
At these words Athena arose.
"The education of a city determines its destiny.
When children admire wealth more than wisdom, decline begins before they become rulers.
The laws remain written.
The magistrates remain appointed.
The assemblies still gather.
Yet the city has already changed because its soul has changed."
Apollo then added,
"Music likewise has altered among them.
Once it elevated the mind toward harmony.
Now it inflames appetite.
Art no longer imitates eternal beauty.
It imitates desire.
When beauty forgets truth, it becomes ornament alone."
Hermes spoke.
"Their speech has changed also.
Contracts multiply while trust diminishes.
Oaths become more numerous because honesty has become less common.
The marketplace grows louder as justice grows quieter."
Then Zeus extended his hand toward the western sea.
The heavens became clear.
The gods beheld Atlantis as mortals could never see her.
Great fleets filled her harbors.
Markets overflowed with every treasure.
Foreign ambassadors crowded her courts.
Temples glittered with polished metals.
Citizens celebrated festivals that continued from dawn until night.
Every appearance suggested invincibility.
Yet beneath the foundations faint fractures spread through the earth.
No citizen perceived them.
No merchant feared them.
No king believed they existed.
Only the gods understood that the visible glory already rested upon invisible ruin.
Zeus declared,
"The universe itself instructs mankind.
Nothing without measure can endure.
Every excess contains the principle of its own correction.
Therefore let the earth recover what pride has claimed as permanent.
Let the sea reclaim what injustice has raised.
Let future generations remember not merely the greatness of Atlantis but the cause of its fall."
Then the immortal assembly consented.
Not one voice opposed the decree.
For each recognized that justice preserves creation more faithfully than indulgence.
There followed a stillness unlike any before.
The winds ceased.
Birds abandoned the air.
The sea became smooth as polished bronze.
For a brief moment nature itself appeared to wait.
Then, from the deepest foundations beneath the island, the earth uttered a sound no living creature had heard.
The mountains trembled.
The rings of land separated.
The harbors rose and broke apart.
Columns collapsed into the waters they once restrained.
The great bridges disappeared beneath waves that rushed inward from every side.
The proud fleets, built through generations of labor, became fragments carried upon the sea.
Temples sank.
Palaces vanished.
The plain itself descended until the ocean closed above it.
When the sun rose again, only water remained where the greatest kingdom of the western sea had stood.
The currents concealed every trace.
The mariners who later crossed those waters spoke only of strange shoals and impassable seas.
Generations passed.
Some declared the island had never existed.
Others preserved only dim recollections.
But among the Egyptians, whose priests honored memory as faithfully as the Greeks honored inquiry, the account remained until Solon heard it and entrusted it to those who loved wisdom above disbelief.
Thus Critias concluded:
"The lesson, Socrates, concerns not Atlantis alone. Every city is founded twice: first in stone, and first also in the soul. The ruin of the soul always precedes the ruin of the walls. Therefore, if we seek to preserve our own city, let us attend not merely to its harbors, its armies, or its wealth, but to the justice by which these things are governed. For no nation, however prosperous, escapes the law that what abandons virtue cannot long preserve greatness."
note this also applies to the modern states of the world and its many cities.
Clovis first was established archeology at some point in academia. until a construction project discovers new evidence, or a Shepard finds new tablets. The Scientific community that controls the archeological consensus is forced to re evaluate their previous DOGMATIC academic believes about human timelines. Sometimes its difficult to see reality when universities pump out brainwashed professional that behave like LLM agents.
Revelation Chapter 18 - "Babylon the Great" (Atlantis, Babylon, Egypt, Rome, Europe, America)
"And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
^(3) For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
^(4) And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
^(5) For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
^(6) Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.
^(7) How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow. ^(8) Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
^(9) And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,
^(10) standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.
^(11) And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:
^(12) the merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,
^(13) and cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men. ^(14) And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.
^(15) The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,
^(16) and saying, Alas, alas, that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!
^(17) For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,
^(18) and cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!
^(19) And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas, that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.
^(20) Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.
^(21) And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.
^(22) And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;
^(23) and the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.
^(24) And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth."
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=revelation%2018&version=AKJV
A discussion in the comments regarding this chapters parallels to Atlantis. I will use this chapter to complete Critias with LLM in future post, you are warned.
i Have been looking into the Event that sank city/island in the story and ran into this video showing a small scale version of the proposed slide in that wold place the cuba finds at its current depth of 500M and remaining relatively intact.
Earthquakes like mention in the story maybe a result of landslides, which would later cause tsunami.
does anyone have access to the Proprietary LIDAR Data. is there a subscription service? would be great to see the Florida sites he mentions. Also wondering if the data is available further south of Florida.
Following up on some Haplogroup info following MR Ramirez comments regarding the cherokee and DNA markers.
anyone have the research the matches this video. Pre-columbian old world DNA markers?
This post Aligns with my previous post Regarding the 4th unknown Hominid and the Remnant of of Atlantis from the Cuban/florida peninsula warao language origins.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHXf-2hzmuM
The Cherokee seem to be of special interest.
https://study.com/academy/lesson/cherokee-language-history-symbols-examples-tsalagi.html
history of the proto-language split might lead back to the 8.2 kilo year event.
Trans:
Right. That they were interested in certain bloodlines going back to... Ancient times. Who knows? Ancient times. Did they mention other heritages around the planet that through this marker...
00:14
I was specifically told that the Cherokee heritage, the Cherokee Nation, had something to do with the phenomenon. And furthermore, that it has something to do with perhaps even the actual existence of Atlantis, that they may have been survivors of Atlantis. But then I can't prove that. I can't divulge a source. I was told by a very credible source. And what was their take on Atlantis since we're speaking about it?
00:44
I believe that their take is it's an actual, and it's not myth and legend, it's an actual place. Do they know where it's at? No. I don't know where it's at and they didn't tell me where it's at. But what would give them that idea that the Cherokee heritage is connected to the Atlantean time unless they had some sort of DNA to compare it to from Atlantis?
01:13
I think because that there is a preponderance of people in the intelligence community and in the military community, especially special operators, who've had these experiences. And when they examine these people and start questioning them about their background, about their family heritages,
01:41
that it was a preponderance of Cherokee heritage
https://theothertopic.substack.com/p/the-many-experiences-of-john-ramirez
CUBA Here we come!
The article from Sci.News discusses genetic evidence suggesting that Neanderthals may have carried DNA from a previously unknown archaic human lineage — effectively a “fourth” hominid branch beyond known groups such as modern humans, Neanderthals, and Denisovans. Researchers analyzing ancient genomes found traces of deep genetic divergence that could indicate interbreeding with an unidentified population that split from other human ancestors hundreds of thousands of years earlier. The findings reinforce the idea that prehistoric Eurasia was populated not by a single human type, but by multiple overlapping lineages that interacted, migrated, and occasionally interbred. Similar later studies also support the existence of isolated or divergent Neanderthal populations surviving for long periods in Europe and Asia. (Science News)
“In this mountain there dwelt one of the earth-born primeval men... and they had an only daughter who was called Cleito.”
only daughter of the last of their kind may elude to an issue with birthrate decline due to solar radiation exposure causing chemical sterilization. This lines up with north America mega fauna extinction.
In a speculative mythological interpretation of Critias, one could imagine Cleito as the final survivor of one of these ancient human lineages isolated on the island that would become Atlantis. When Poseidon encounters her, the union symbolically represents the merging of an older primordial humanity with a newer divine or emerging civilization. In this reading, Atlantis becomes not merely a kingdom, but a hybrid society born from the last remnant of an ancient race and the arrival of a transformative power, preserving echoes of humanity’s forgotten deep past within Greek mythic memory.
wanted to post this since we are having a lot of speculations on UAP and a connection to atlantis.
https://www.sci.news/othersciences/anthropology/science-neanderthal-genome-fourth-lineage-01624.html
Notice: this post was partially done with the help of the LLM please don't be offended by my laziness.
recently browsing through the impact data base, but this location in Bahamas is not included. Does anyone know any studies confirming this is not an impact crater.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rd3Wz7tydw
trans-Script:
^(THIS IS VIDEO NUMBER THREE, WHERE I SPEAK TO THE WORLD ABOUT OUR CREATION STORY—A STORY THAT SPEAKS NOT ONLY OF ORIGIN, BUT OF CONSEQUENCE. IT TELLS OF THE PENALTY PAID FOR VIOLATIONS OF NATURAL LAW, THE VERY FOUNDATION OF OUR NATION—ITS RELIGION, LAW, POLITICS, AND WHAT IS NOW CALLED CULTURE. IN ANCIENT TIMES, OUR PROGENITOR HABURI, SON OF THE SHAMAN KNOWN AS THE ROOSTER, WAS BOUND BY DUTY TO ATONE FOR THESE VIOLATIONS. HIS FATHER, A POWERFUL SHAMAN WHO COULD TRAVEL THROUGH THE AIR, FLED FROM THE MAINLAND OF THE ORINOCO DELTA IN VENEZUELA INTO THE NORTHWEST TERRITORIES, WHERE HE ENCOUNTERED TWO YOUNG WOMEN PREPARING FOOD FROM THE MORICHE PALM. DRIVEN BY HUNGER, HE CONSUMED THEIR FOOD, AN ACT THAT VIOLATED STRICT TRADITIONAL LAW. TO ESCAPE PUNISHMENT, HE FLED WITH THEM, AND FROM THIS UNION, HABURI WAS BORN.)
^(HOWEVER, THE SPIRITS OF THE FOREST—THE ANIMALS, TREES, AND ELEMENTS OF NATURE—TESTIFIED TO THE TRUTH. JUSTICE WAS SOUGHT BY PAPABO, THE KING OF THE FOREST AND SPIRIT OF JUSTICE, WHO TOOK THE FORM OF A JAGUAR AND KILLED THE ROOSTER. THE WOMEN AND CHILD FLED, BUT WERE MET BY A MOTHER SHAMAN WHO, THROUGH GREATER SPIRITUAL AUTHORITY, INTERVENED. SHE PROTECTED THE INNOCENT CHILD, HABURI, AND RAISED HIM IN THE DISCIPLINE OF SHAMANISM—TEACHING HIM THE LANGUAGE OF THE GODS, FASTING, PRAYER, AND THE SACRED LAWS OF NATURE. BY THE) ^(AGE OF TWELVE, HABURI) ^(HAD BECOME A FULLY) ^(INITIATED SHAMAN.)
^(IN TIME, AFTER THE DEATH OF HIS TEACHER, HABURI RETURNED TO THE FOREST AND, WITHOUT KNOWING, ENCOUNTERED HIS MOTHER. THROUGH IGNORANCE, A GRAVE VIOLATION OF NATURAL LAW OCCURRED. WHEN THE TRUTH WAS REVEALED, REPENTANCE FOLLOWED, BUT THE SPIRITS AGAIN SPREAD THE NEWS. FORCED TO FLEE, HABURI WAS GUIDED BY) **^(THE GREAT SPIRIT TO BUILD A SACRED CANOE—A KANU)**^(—THROUGH SHAMANIC RITUAL. WITH THIS, HE ESCAPED WITH TWO WOMEN TO) ^(NABARIMA ISLAND, THE NORTHERN EDGE OF OUR COSMOLOGICAL WORLD.)
^(NABARIMA, MEANING “FATHER OF THE WAVES,”)
**^(STOOD AS THE ONLY LAND THAT SURVIVED A GREAT CATASTROPHE)**^(—)
^(WHEN THE EASTERN PART OF SOUTH AMERICA SANK BENEATH THE SEA DUE TO HUMAN DISOBEDIENCE OF NATURAL LAW.) **^(THIS EVENT, REMEMBERED IN OUR ORAL HISTORY)**^(, IS SUPPORTED BY ARCHAEOLOGICAL FINDINGS FROM PROFESSOR IRVING ROUSE AND OTHERS, WHO IDENTIFIED EVIDENCE OF ANCIENT LIFE AND EXTINCTION EVENTS IN THE REGION, INCLUDING CREATURES SUCH AS GLYPTODONS AND MASTODONS.)
**^(ON NABARIMA, HABURI ENTERED A PERIOD OF INTENSE DISCIPLINE)**^(—FASTING, PRAYER, AND COMMUNION WITH THE EARTH GODS. IN TIME, HE WAS FORGIVEN AND INSTRUCTED TO MARRY.) **^(FROM THIS UNION CAME A SON AND DAUGHTER, WHO BECAME THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE FOREST LINEAGE)**^(—KNOWN IN LATER FOLKLORE AS) **^(PAPA BOIS)**^(, THE FATHER OF THE FOREST, AND HIS SISTER, THE MOTHER OF THE FOREST. THROUGH THEM,) ^(THE SACRED KNOWLEDGE OF SHAMANISM, NATURAL LAW, AND THE SCIENCE OF KANU-MAKING WAS PASSED DOWN.)
^(THIS STORY IS NOT MERELY MYTH—)^(IT IS A RECORD OF LAW, CONSEQUENCE, AND RESTORATION.) ^(IT TELLS US THAT TRADITION IS THE FOUNDATION OF A NATION, AND THAT TO VIOLATE NATURAL LAW IS TO INVITE CATASTROPHE. YET IT ALSO TEACHES THAT THROUGH DISCIPLINE, KNOWLEDGE, AND ALIGNMENT WITH THE FORCES OF NATURE, RESTORATION IS POSSIBLE.)
https://wilderutopia.com/traditions/myth/warao-of-guyana-the-origin-of-the-stars/
https://www.carolinaquiroga.com/post/ep-15-when-the-ancestors-came-from-the-skies
https://iplmyths.blogspot.com/2025/05/mythologies-of-warao-tribe.html
https://docslib.org/doc/1325744/on-the-historicity-of-carib-migrations-in-the-lesser-antilles
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalina_people
https://www.sacred-texts.com/nam/sa/lmbg/lmbg2b.htm
map https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~273022~90046772
https://www.sacred-texts.com/nam/sa/lmbg/lmbg2b.htm
| Years rolled on, and men, grown hateful, Ceased their passions to restrain;Took their Maker's gifts; ungrateful,p. 63 Thanked him not for sun and rain;But forsook Him once again,When they ceased to suffer pain. |
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| "Kanonatu," seeing slaughter, Acts of rapine, deeds unclean,Sent their punishment by water, Which had once their blessing been.Floods, obeying Him, were seenO'er the hills and valleys green. |
| Eight poor men, in that disaster, With six women, trembling stood.Pausing in His wrath, the Master Saw their hearts still true and good,Bade them take the "bahbi" wood,Safe to float amidst the flood. |
| Evil spirits of the waters Saw them then float past undrowned.They were saved that sons and daughters Might again on earth be found,And from them mankind abound,Fish, and hunt, and till the ground. |
Using the app to generate contour and trying t o place the hill between the apparent straight land clearing (high res glitch). Just testing some tools on this app.