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The latest bullshit claim is that the Eastlands don't get any real money out of Camp Mystic (CM).

But when bankruptcy documents are examined the earnings of Natural Fountains Properties (NFP) are linked to CM.

Annual Eastland company earnings:

• CM 2024 - $11.2 million in revenue

• CM 2025 - $5.7 million in revenue (business cut short by flood disaster)

 

Profits from Camp Mystic transferred to other Eastland company:

• NFP 2024 - $4.8 million in revenue

• NFP 2025 - $2.5 million in revenue

 

It looks like almost 50% of CM annual revenue becomes NFP revenue.

So where does the NFP money go after that since its business is apparently to own the land and collect 'rent' from CM?

Is it going into trust funds for the Eastlands or what?

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I mean if Camp Mystic brought in an average of $10 million per year from 2014 - 2024 and about half of that $100 million went to NFP - where is the money being hidden from the bankruptcy court?

Is it in the personal accounts of the individual Eastlands as they are the directors and owners of both Camp Mystic and Natural Fountains Properties?

 

edit (quoted from a past Eastland family legal fight over money):

> Before its reorganization, the shareholders of Camp Mystic, Inc. were Richard G. Eastland (“Dick”) (who owned 38%), S. Stacy Eastland (“Stacy”) (who owned 8%), their sister Nancy Leaton (who owned 8%), their mother Anne Eastland as trustee (who owned 42%), and two of their cousins (who each owned 2%). In the late 1990s, after an incident involving a camper, the family became concerned about liability issues. Thus, Stacy, a lawyer, advocated a reorganization of the corporation. Stacy drafted the reorganization documents and represented all sides in the transaction. Under the reorganization, the old corporation, Camp Mystic, Inc., was renamed to Natural Fountains Properties, Inc. (“NFP”), and a new corporation, also called Camp Mystic, Inc. (“New CM”), was created to operate the camp. The shareholders of New CM were Dick and his wife Tweety.

> Upon the reorganization, New CM operated the camp and took on the risks of camp operations. NFP continued to own the real estate on which the camp operated and leased the land to New CM pursuant to the Ground and Building Lease (“the Lease”), which was drafted by Stacy. While reducing liability to NFP was one of the goals of the reorganization, it was not the only goal. Other goals included giving Dick and Tweety, the operators of the camp, the ability to have ownership and independence. For example, they were no longer required to approach the Board each year with regard to salary issues. Another goal of the reorganization was to reward Dick and Tweety with profits if they ran the camp well, so that the camp would grow and extend beyond this generation. Another goal was to give the capital owners the same amount of dividends they had previously experienced. Dick and Stacy’s mother wanted reassurance that she would continue to receive the same amount of dividends after reorganization that she had received previously. Thus, a complicated rent formula was created to make sure the dividends continued each year in the same amount as the year of the reorganization.

> The parties operated under these agreements without conflict for almost ten years. Each year, Dick approached the Board (which consisted of Dick, Stacy, Nancy, and other family members) and proposed the rent for the following year. Each year the Board agreed to the amount of rent. Then, Dick decided to expand the camp by creating a second camp on the property. When a neighbor heard that the new camp would be near his boundary, he went to Dick and proposed giving the camp money to not put the new camp on the proposed site. In exchange for the camp agreeing to restrictions of use on the property near his land and to put the new camp on a different site, the neighbor offered to pay an amount that would enable the camp to build the second camp without having to obtain a loan. A dispute arose over how much of these proceeds should go to New CM and how much should go to NFP.

> ...Dick would inherit stock from their mother, which would result in a 52% ownership in NFP.

 

edit (from news reporting on the outcome of the legal fight):

> The lawsuit stemmed from allegations that Richard Eastland cheated his siblings, Nancy Leaton and Stacy Eastland, of millions of dollars in rent by abusing his position as camp director and majority shareholder in the corporation that owns the land, Natural Fountains Properties.

> ...appeals court ruling had revived Richard Eastland's previously dismissed legal malpractice claims against Stacy Eastland, an attorney, which alleged Stacy Eastland had a conflict of interest by representing both Camp Mystic and Natural Fountain Properties.

> The parties' combined legal fees mounted with each new twist, eventually topping the $8.26 million appraised market value of the scenic 725-acre property beside the Guadalupe River that included the roughly 200-acre camp.

> Richard Eastland held a 52 percent interest in Natural Fountains Properties, Stacy Eastland and Nancy Eastland each held 22 percent, and their cousins, George and Philip Stacy, each held 2 percent.

> Although Stacy Eastland and Nancy Leaton advocated splitting up the land to resolve the dispute, it appears they agreed to be bought out in the end.

> The settlement was confidential. But newly filed Kerr County records indicate Leaton, Stacy Eastland and the cousins received a combined $7.2 million to surrender their NFP interests.

 

In effect, NFP's business is just tunneling profits out of Camp Mystic as rent and into Eastland pockets through annual dividends...

Bullshit Camp Mystic Arguments

For the last year I've refuted and argued with sock puppets and mystic minions making a multitude of false claims.

Here is just some of the bullshit they've come up with (so far).

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Claim: The Eastlands saved hundreds of girls and are heroes.

Reality: The Eastlands put hundreds of girls in danger, got 27 killed as a result of their negligence and failure to act in time, and teenage counselors were left on their own to save children from the flood.

 

Claim: Dick Eastland died saving girls.

Reality: Dick Eastland died in the death trap he created. He loaded girls into a truck with water rushing over the wheels and they were all swept away and died as a result.

 

Claim: The Eastlands had an evacuation plan and executed it.

Reality: There is no written evacuation plan. The only guidance in writing was to stay in the cabins until told otherwise, with a false claim that the cabins were all on safe high ground. The Eastlands did not plan for what to do in the event of a flood and they did not train their employees on what to do. 39 other adults were left standing on a hill, or in various buildings, and were given no instructions to evacuate or help the children before or during the flood.

 

The one structure the Eastlands moved girls to, just before the flood made escape impossible - the Rec Hall - is also in the floodway which is the most dangerous place to be in a flood. Girls trapped on the second floor balcony in the Rec Hall for hours watched the water rise up close enough to reach down and touch it.

 

Claim: They're not supposed to evacuate. They're supposed to shelter in place.

Reality: Shelter in place does not mean wait for the flood to come and kill you.

 

Claim: The flood happened too fast.

Reality: The Eastlands received the NWS 1:14am July 4th, 2025 Flash Flood Warning and then used the time after the warning to move canoes instead of children. They waited more than an hour to act until a counselor reported water entering a cabin and the gatehouse attendant reported being flooded. All after completely ignoring the Flood Watch issued more than 12 hours prior to the flood.

 

Claim: The flood is unprecedented.

Reality: The Guadalupe river has flooded many times in the past, risen over 30 feet in the past, killed people along the river in the past, and Camp Mystic itself has even been flooded with cabins washed away in the past. The threat of deadly flash floods in Texas has been studied for more than 100 years and the Texas Hill Country is often referred to as "Flash Flood Alley" because of precedent. There are other floods with higher river crests, higher rainfall totals in just a few hours, and even higher death tolls.

 

Claim: In the 1932 flood the destroyed cabins were much closer to the river so it's not relevant.

Reality: Topographical maps and FEMA maps show most of the Camp Mystic Guadalupe site is in a low lying area, within both the 100-year floodplain and the floodway.

 

Claim: The cabins aren't in the floodplain. The foundations are raised above the Base Flood Elevation or 100-year regulatory floodplain - refer to LOMA documents.

Reality: Floodplains don't stop at any lines on a map. FEMA and other official definitions (for the 100-year floodplain or 100-year flood) state in any given year there is a chance a flood will meet or exceed each standard.

 

Claim: Nobody at Camp Mystic got warned because of bad cell service.

Reality: They received the 1:14am July 4th, 2025 Flash Flood Warning from the National Weather Service.

 

Claim: National Weather Service warnings didn't warn enough.

Reality: NWS specifically warned of life threatening flash floods.

 

Claim: NWS predicted a 5-year flood, not a 1,000 year flood.

Reality: NWS does not predict how big a flood will be. They forecast chances for precipitation. There is a 'Water Prediction Service' which bases estimated river rise on measured rainfall - ie: they update it when more rain is measured. No weather service in the world has a magic crystal ball that can predict exactly how much rain will fall, where it will fall, or how big a flood will result before the storm begins.

 

Claim: The flood is a once in a lifetime event.

Reality: 100-year flood does not mean one time in 100 years. It means a 1-in-100 chance it can happen in any given year.

 

Claim: Warnings happen all the time so it's normal to not pay attention to them.

Reality: The river doesn't care if people fail to heed the warnings and will go through anyone in the way during a flood. The owners of Camp Mystic had a duty to pay attention and a legal responsibility to take action to ensure the safety of the children.

 

Claim: The State of Texas approved the evacuation plan.

Reality: A DSHS inspection reported that Camp Mystic had a posted document and did not evaluate evacuation procedures. However, the camp's posted document did not include flood evacuation procedures and was therefore not compliant with state law.

 

Claim: It's the state government's fault because there were no warning sirens.

Reality: The owners of Camp Mystic knew there were no sirens and did not plan for flash floods regardless. However, they did receive the 1:14am NWS Flash Flood Warning.

 

Claim: New camp safety laws demanded camps install "end to end fiber optic" communication links because of a "fiber lobby" and politicians taking bribes.

Reality: Testimony to the state legislative committee told of failed radio and cell phone communication. Old rural broadband service is widely considered to be unreliable. Satellite service doesn't work in the rain. So new 'fiber optic' infrastructure was added to the camp safety laws.

 

Claim: The official state investigation is biased against Camp Mystic.

Reality: The official state investigation reported the facts of what happened at Camp Mystic on July 4th, 2025.

 

Claim: If you blame Camp Mystic for what happened then you blame everyone affected by the flood.

Reality: The river doesn't care about blame. It will go through anyone in the way during a flood. Regardless, pointing out Camp Mystic's failures is not the same thing as criticizing every flood victim of this flood or any flood.

 

Claim: If you're not from here then you don't know.

Reality: Texas flash floods have been observed and measured for more than 100 years. You don't have to be from a place to learn how floods affect that place when it is a matter of recorded history.

 

Claim: Nobody says "Flash Flood Alley". It's just media sensationalism.

Reality: The term "Flash Flood Alley" is decades old. It has been used in official documents by Texas river authorities, by scientists, and more.

An example from the Guadalupe-Blanco River Authority published after the 1998 flood:

> If you live in the Guadalupe River Basin, you also live in one of the three most dangerous regions in the U.S.A. for flash floods! Local residents and weather experts refer to the Texas Hill Country as ‘Flash Flood Alley,’ because heavy rainfall and runoff from creeks and streams can cause rapid rises and flooding in a matter of hours.

 

Claim: Other camps in the area didn't evacuate so Camp Mystic is being treated unfairly.

Reality: 27 girls died at Camp Mystic, not at the other area camps. Camp Mystic is being treated accordingly.

 

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Thankfully an official state investigation has confirmed the facts of what happened.

You don't have to take my word for it.

Read the report: https://senate.texas.gov/_assets/pdf/2026.06.26-FINAL-report-corrected.pdf

 

Claim: The official state investigation hasn't been proven in a court of law and therefore doesn't count.

Reality: The official state investigation has documented the facts of what happened at Camp Mystic. Facts count.

 

And don't fall for the BS from Camp Mystic's supporters.

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