u/AntelopeIcy6558

Pacific standard bank is the 'pitcher of truth' in the epsilon tract.

Pacific standard bank is the 'pitcher of truth' in the epsilon tract.

The pitcher of truth is mentioned only once in the epsilon tract.

https://preview.redd.it/8bxt1lemqgth1.png?width=629&format=png&auto=webp&s=8603cfbc96a99532eb891a67a994df9249bb5eb9

On the front of the building we can see these engravings

https://preview.redd.it/q4irmrxgrgth1.png?width=1249&format=png&auto=webp&s=520ebbeb497f94994ec0a1ad68855d1a04962e2f

On the sides we can see pitchers...?

Now let's talk about the ''lake that hold a cutting from the peach tree''

I believe this lake is the pacific standard ocean which shares the same name with this bank, and the cutting from the peach tree is the sunken ufo. Let me explain.

https://preview.redd.it/k4w4zwgrsgth1.png?width=693&format=png&auto=webp&s=cc65d4b7e891209eda257f5a2994fffb02eb626c

We should already know that the ''peach tree'' is the FIB tower

https://www.reddit.com/r/chiliadmystery/comments/1wks1ro/fib_and_iaa_towers_are_the_trees_in_the_epsilon/

Therefore, a cutting from the tree could be something that relates to the fib tower.

Now let's look at the non-damaged version of this ufo.

https://preview.redd.it/zve8dheftgth1.png?width=326&format=png&auto=webp&s=8dbf130ada5d3adbe72084a96c560f5cdb804d23

Okay. If you still don't believe me, this is where it gets very interesting.

In one of the loading screens, we can see this lady standing near the pacific standard bank.

https://preview.redd.it/swqu0tputgth1.png?width=489&format=png&auto=webp&s=38f28577b5e6cee65dadd329d5508e534f18aaf9

You might notice that she has a tattoo on her arm.

This tattoo spells out 'upwards flows the truth form' which directly quotes the epsilon tract

https://preview.redd.it/690uzx5dugth1.png?width=650&format=png&auto=webp&s=8395ea65a189c15c66bf36c6a57d5f221bf10e75

And i believe it is no coincidence that the ufo is located directly upwards of the pitcher.

https://preview.redd.it/qplm2ajiugth1.png?width=335&format=png&auto=webp&s=26f84cb5286adfa58c74e325d7f3e3b80b58655b

And before you say it, yes, the pacific standard bank might also relate to the purple mural and so does the peach tree

https://preview.redd.it/6dj3peqlxgth1.png?width=268&format=png&auto=webp&s=85a2e21f00116fa1bc06e1b96d24dfcc811dcb5a

https://preview.redd.it/a0jfz9c1vgth1.png?width=523&format=png&auto=webp&s=d0c805e1ffe6af7784781ecd815437a7c33373d1

https://preview.redd.it/l81g9k32vgth1.png?width=85&format=png&auto=webp&s=f3d183bcc7502169a792efd61d5b8bc750c2d8b6

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u/AntelopeIcy6558 — 11 days ago

The maze bank secret part 2

Read my first post to understand.

Part 6: Textile city mural.

Many of you have seen the ''sinners mural''

https://preview.redd.it/glr1rcng8aqh1.png?width=225&format=png&auto=webp&s=29fa9a2db37f1df046b550810065da4df91814c0

It has text around it that reads:

''for when the great scorer comes to write against your name He writes not that you won or lost but how you played the Game''

I think this is referencing dr. Friedlander (michaels therapist) and the psychiatric evaluation he writes at the end of the game based on your actions.

Why do i think this is related to maze bank?

https://preview.redd.it/fv4wlfsa9aqh1.png?width=274&format=png&auto=webp&s=251f3b68c5fbd762cf1c74886b58c203814f6a68

So i believe that we must achieve a ''perfect report'' first to be able to solve it. This isn't actually that hard to do.

Part 7: deciphering the purple mural.

Do note that some symbols and their meaning may only be revealed after we solve it. (like with the beast hunt)

https://preview.redd.it/cjgc7o5aaaqh1.png?width=562&format=png&auto=webp&s=ad6595779b0a45323a726483b51bf99e3d9ba629

The keyhole should be pretty obvious.

Rotating maze. Some have interpreted this as rotating maze bank, but i think it's telling us that we have to use it like a safe dial by shooting the lights

https://preview.redd.it/l9ngfagrbaqh1.png?width=501&format=png&auto=webp&s=cf5aa86624f9e771dc693aacb6c24aab0827c618

I believe that The greek letter PSI and the yingyang symbol could be referencing chapters of the epsilon tract (PSI and CHI)

The brain and the PSI could also be pointing toward friedlander.

https://preview.redd.it/s41v9zozcaqh1.png?width=152&format=png&auto=webp&s=a871be48b4d34d7d5643268d23883c9cf88c3dfc

The staircase tells us that this is a 3 part mystery.

part 1 = get perfect report

part 2 = get order of the lights using the epsilon tract

part 3 = shoot the lights.

the eye could just be saying that we have to LOOK for clues

The phrenology head i believe is saying that we have to keep the epsilon tract in mind, but i wont get into that here.

Lighting/electricity symbol = maze bank is located on power street.

Scales can be found in the FIB logo which is related to one of the keyholes.

That will be it for now. What do you think? I truly believe this is the best ''solution'' for the purple mural since i haven't really seen any other ones.

One of the reasons i made this is because some have said that rockstar will reveak the mysteries when 6 comes out, so if they do i wanna see if i was right even if i don't end up solving it.

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u/AntelopeIcy6558 — 27 days ago

The maze bank secret.

I believe i know how to solve the mystery related to maze bank and the purple mural.

I have been trying for a few months now, but something is still missing so im putting my theory out here. (you're welcome to critique and let me know if you have better theories)

Part 1: The lights

To cut it short, i believe this mystery has to do with these 8 WHITE helipad lights on top of maze bank tower. (an idea i got from u/dewdropgoat)

https://preview.redd.it/of3lcaw3t9qh1.png?width=632&format=png&auto=webp&s=475173a0a07c5060a9412e5d08a7301ccdb9fa16

I believe, that to solve the secret you need to shoot these 8 lights in a certain order.

Why? I believe there are 8 locations around los santos that we need to find. each of these locations from some angle resemble a keyhole, which is one of the main symbols of this mystery.

https://preview.redd.it/t9l4q0i8u9qh1.png?width=30&format=png&auto=webp&s=51d826026805ec04be3da914de8b1c7510910d97

Each of these locations also lines up with one of the white helipad lights on maze bank (if you were to draw a straight line from them)

I believe i have MOST of these locations, but im not sure about some of them

You can test these yourself. simply point a sniper at one of the lights so that it lines up, then open the map and draw a line from the arrow (keyhole marked with POI)

https://preview.redd.it/ydgml5faw9qh1.png?width=1230&format=png&auto=webp&s=143254468c0fd5c7d40f4e06e4e4430868d43d0a

https://preview.redd.it/g8v7w08pw9qh1.png?width=1001&format=png&auto=webp&s=939231f3f668c87d1e7fa408196cd6add296fad4

https://preview.redd.it/3b0wgc0qw9qh1.png?width=798&format=png&auto=webp&s=472ac7248ed339fc5feec03055c8a12dfe95ec4c

Part 2: the keyholes

Something i didn't mention, is that i believe all of these locations are mentioned in the epsilon tract through metaphors and that's how you're supposed to find them.

Im not gonna get into that here since since there is a LOT, but you can dm me if you want to know, or watch this video addressing 2 of them (not made by me) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb1_NAtMkME&list=LL&index=74&t=588s

Im not sure about ALL the locations, so im only gonna put 5 of them, but you can dm me for the other 3 or try and find them yourself

Keyhole #1: eagle fountain in FIB & IAA courtyard

https://preview.redd.it/eyt77psuy9qh1.png?width=1337&format=png&auto=webp&s=0479c99bf14572b1fab17a98a7efc9fe2557c313

https://preview.redd.it/jm0kr0a5z9qh1.png?width=646&format=png&auto=webp&s=7672612bca3a66394140ec038452c50cd25d8043

Keyhole #2: Legion square fountain

https://preview.redd.it/mlm0izgvz9qh1.png?width=903&format=png&auto=webp&s=b3ae2459099064fe118bd36e562ca9d647fd1c9d

https://preview.redd.it/qh0a9k210aqh1.png?width=952&format=png&auto=webp&s=015a94289b7d6702527b0f6d9b35cbbbec4489f3

Keyhole #3: Davis plaza

https://preview.redd.it/1kpa37w50aqh1.png?width=1287&format=png&auto=webp&s=ce0bb85fb2ad0174999b8e3344af6b9bd2f0d813

https://preview.redd.it/iuxpts990aqh1.png?width=798&format=png&auto=webp&s=2d1d95bee12eadd9c7dcfb6f0790bd6c2e3a7b01

Keyhole #4: Morningwood

https://preview.redd.it/97aghh5p0aqh1.png?width=602&format=png&auto=webp&s=76964d2ec0fd120ab0d90cb49e83a77bc85f25b7

https://preview.redd.it/c4n48s8u0aqh1.png?width=916&format=png&auto=webp&s=e038c69326c8a6020ce332412f795a0c185d0c83

Keyhole #5 Union depository (this one is the only one where the keyhole can't be seen from a birdseye view but instead in the logo.

https://preview.redd.it/izpsuulj1aqh1.png?width=300&format=png&auto=webp&s=2b093c899633b92fa27f7f824b47c81e06272806

https://preview.redd.it/qsg9j6wt1aqh1.png?width=288&format=png&auto=webp&s=ec4ea2ddcae70b9ff5bee5d961eb4330e78c0243

Part 3: Getting the order

So once we have all 8 locations, how do we get the order? I have 3 theories for this.

#1 The key theory

A while ago someone suggested that each keyhole might have a key. A key being a tall structure nearby the keyhole.

A good example of this, is the morningwood keyhole and the tower next to it

My idea for this, is if each keyhole were to have a structure next to it, we could write down the times that the keyhole is overshadowed, and then shoot the lights out in that order.

The problem is, that most keyholes don't have a ''key'' that overshadows them, so ill leave that here.

#2 The epsilon theory.

This is my favourite one. We should decipher the epsilon tract and note down what metaphor stands for what keyhole. Then note down in what order the metaphors are mentioned in the tract and shoot the lights out accordingly.

#3 The number theory

This is probably the most likely one. Some keyholes appear to have a number nearby also visible from a birdseye view.

Im sure you can figure it out from there.

https://preview.redd.it/gavslpgt3aqh1.png?width=323&format=png&auto=webp&s=2f8d8b4da2184c4867f2220062664a68296227f2

Part 4: Why the lights?

There are quite a few details pointing toward the maze bank lights.

Near maze bank there is another tower called the Arcadius business center

It has a very similar helipad structure, with the only difference being that there are no 8 helipad lights, only 4 red ones.

https://preview.redd.it/q1m3vylj4aqh1.png?width=1827&format=png&auto=webp&s=89403d2b03a2626ccab6e9ec43c7609f74432e68

If you watch the in game TV show fame or shame you can see a very interesting detail.

In the intro it pans to an overhead shot of maze bank, and the white lights are clearly missing. This can't be a rendering issue, since the red ones are visible. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaMwfs5wgO8&t=2s

And finally, one of the pieces of the epsilon tract are located on top of maze bank.

Part 5: The spider

Something ive always found quite curious is the maze bank spider which you can see from a street

https://preview.redd.it/5dqho75m5aqh1.png?width=592&format=png&auto=webp&s=bbe68305e0e9534387c418edf5cdde37fc3a0f8d

There is also this tattoo which depicts a spider with a keyhole on it's back

https://preview.redd.it/acau9kzt5aqh1.png?width=310&format=png&auto=webp&s=f5756ab13881fd8d7bff5db259f6f18f4fe7d680

Why depict maze bank as a spider?

Because once we find all 8 keyholes we have the web. That's why the tattoo spider is shaped like an 8.

This is all backed up by the RDR2 mystery where there are 8 spiderwebs that all connect into one in the middle

https://preview.redd.it/jvys8gkp6aqh1.png?width=647&format=png&auto=webp&s=6635195877723ff78d61e95986a804bd303d9175

Ill continue this theory in another post since i can't post more images

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u/AntelopeIcy6558 — 27 days ago

need help with penthouse artwork

In the online penthouse i noticed this painting called ''senseless''

https://preview.redd.it/3l7bfv3bb6ph1.png?width=251&format=png&auto=webp&s=532f3b8d089f299c8d261ab3bcff915e818f37ae

It is pretty obviously a part of the chiliad mural when overlayed

https://preview.redd.it/tid301qfb6ph1.png?width=448&format=png&auto=webp&s=833abb7452e9743e44320e12c4ffb50a7cd5957c

There are 2 other paintings by the same artist - Merle Adcock

Im pretty sure these are also meant to be overlayed with something, but i can't quite figure out what.

The first one is called ''Illogical'' and im pretty sure it's a part of the map

https://preview.redd.it/wx2quh3yb6ph1.png?width=250&format=png&auto=webp&s=bae81116c6791db2e37c0dbab951592d232dcd50

Other one is called ''Unsound'' I have no idea what this one is...

https://preview.redd.it/dnvs1cz5c6ph1.png?width=249&format=png&auto=webp&s=01ba801c7852404cdda081901a9ec171f7d80f61

Anyways maybe you know what these are? Not sure if this has been talked about, but i would assume they relate to the mystery like the first painting.

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u/AntelopeIcy6558 — 1 month ago

About the kortz clues...

in the new heist we can scope out the kortz center and find a lot paintings and art. Here are a few pieces i found interesting. In the scope out mission you can't access the spot of which that one guy talked about, but i will see in the finale.

u/AntelopeIcy6558 — 3 months ago

My thoughts on the Lester map

So we all know this map in Lester's house.

https://preview.redd.it/m1yhjvji3n5h1.png?width=971&format=png&auto=webp&s=7c22cc3564408728a9ef6e2aca256390ef9c7c80

I have done some investigating and i haven't been able to find ANY links between this and other in game ''clues''.

So my best idea, is that this was some sort of heist they were planning, but it ended up being cut. And i have found a very interesting parallel.

In gtao, there is this mission where we raid an IAA facility that is hidden in the maintenance tunnels. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp7ba8JhV5M&t=228s The entrance even lines up with point D on the map.

This map has been in the game since day 1, and unlike the doomsday murals, i think it's entirely possible that it was hinting at cut content possibly reimagined through that online mission released in 2020

If you think im wrong let me know why.

https://preview.redd.it/q1rzdm7x4n5h1.png?width=60&format=png&auto=webp&s=206e83d36d3eec3cd051296d56237bbfd6be164e

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u/AntelopeIcy6558 — 4 months ago

Oil conspiracy findings

Im stumped on this so ill just leave it here.

I was looking around dell perro pier when i noticed this poster

https://preview.redd.it/cj3wdcsq1u4h1.png?width=227&format=png&auto=webp&s=8bd45a7bd3feb2c932277c78fc66d81957b92dad

What im interested in is the tower on the right. It looks a suspicious lot like this tower from the oeuvre painting

https://preview.redd.it/jxbwtt5s1u4h1.png?width=608&format=png&auto=webp&s=160cf1145c6e95865ef5cbeb9eff2a034fb8549e

https://preview.redd.it/uqfc6g3t1u4h1.png?width=169&format=png&auto=webp&s=c34ea664c10370678322b50088df3f68462cc7a7

A ''gusher'' apparently is some sort of oil well failure.

https://preview.redd.it/4ajw5kuu1u4h1.png?width=998&format=png&auto=webp&s=0ca9a77ae58a92ccb8b3d4d140e08e997daabf25

Look familiar? So naturally i went around looking for a tower in this in the oil fields and there is ONLY ONE that looks somewhat similar.

https://preview.redd.it/0ol3v2lw1u4h1.png?width=669&format=png&auto=webp&s=4488c1a40e4c037d7a8ef649a8126d6d2610e6c7

As you can see it even has the disk at the top like in the drawings. As for dell perro, maybe its pointing toward the oil fields?

https://preview.redd.it/34k15gpd2u4h1.png?width=931&format=png&auto=webp&s=570b14019d870bba2823bdb6cfc9f5859e239ae1

https://preview.redd.it/d6rw8c8z1u4h1.png?width=663&format=png&auto=webp&s=57de85c2210b3c480f06b1b2b8dcbe875dd0db0b

https://preview.redd.it/b1l1xdrx1u4h1.png?width=77&format=png&auto=webp&s=dff99d8e9018bdb48e5b729d7f9766cebb69e87c

So this led me to think there might be some sort of way to make this oil ''gusher'' happen in game. The best i could come up with is maybe we have to use the stock market? Sadly you can't invest in globe oil which appears to run the fields

https://preview.redd.it/ivtmdmp12u4h1.png?width=567&format=png&auto=webp&s=eb0e6c3555e0959f6f21eb697567f966e74b36e3

This is the place where we kill Trevor, and the oeuvre painting does say ''trecherous''.

https://preview.redd.it/43fpjmi32u4h1.png?width=196&format=png&auto=webp&s=ff8d56b641c2eca3a04a9050a532fd73a1e78d3f

Also audio might be involved? There is this thudding when you stand near the oil wells, which has longer and shorter pauses in between.

https://preview.redd.it/4fhflwg42u4h1.png?width=390&format=png&auto=webp&s=9e46514cac38942db23a2e5bd1b8baf101a480c5

Anyway i probably won't investigate this further, you'll have to take it from here. I found all of these oddities in like 15 minutes so there's probably more to find.

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u/AntelopeIcy6558 — 5 months ago

Something to try.

https://preview.redd.it/kzyystebjj4h1.png?width=87&format=png&auto=webp&s=14863dc9bab0e071032a75d22d4859c22ccefffc

So i believe that the epsilon tract is referencing locations on the map through metaphors. It keeps mentioning ''the peach tree and the apple tree'' and this is probably referencing the fib and iaa towers. just too much lines up. (watch this video explaining it better than i can https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb1_NAtMkME&t=7s ) However, one thing that i found strange is when the tract mentions that "both trees speak" and it tells us to ''hear them to understand''

This never made any sense to me, but i just had an idea. In the mission ''eye in the sky'' we fly around in a lspd helicopter tracking down the z - type car. In this mission we for seemingly no reason have the ability to listen to npcs.

Is the tract telling us to fly near the towers and use the listening feature? I think so. Gonna try this tomorrow.

https://preview.redd.it/ucs9o429jj4h1.png?width=610&format=png&auto=webp&s=fb36e7b93d27b9edbba764fc72abaddef46ed4b7

https://preview.redd.it/zqzkq3ljij4h1.png?width=628&format=png&auto=webp&s=641195bac54f43c8677f9818a1823a92cbdbfae7

https://preview.redd.it/zg8isgvyhj4h1.png?width=672&format=png&auto=webp&s=df8a69033dbe7ce86bc5cc027fb8aa198b039309

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u/AntelopeIcy6558 — 5 months ago

Pretty sure i found another keyhole

https://preview.redd.it/4qtfdexe6o3h1.png?width=250&format=png&auto=webp&s=70c33423e2c18a61c369932a56eaf67431e80b31

Location:

https://preview.redd.it/spp7iu9e5o3h1.png?width=1385&format=png&auto=webp&s=c2b06b43e54224e41248d5bf607de44795d35a43

https://reddit.com/link/1tp3qdp/video/t7lgqyjh5o3h1/player

It has 8 sides just like the weazel tower.

When you fly high up enough the top texture disapears and reveals a bright light.

The bullet collision is normal.

Light turns on at 19:00 and progressively turns brighter.

It lines up perfectly with this light on maze bank

https://preview.redd.it/vpkile916o3h1.png?width=662&format=png&auto=webp&s=23d8be66db1fd40046e25e2e9c9dbc2a7d7ae70b

There are 5 keyholes so far that have been found. All of them line up with the lights on maze bank.

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u/AntelopeIcy6558 — 5 months ago

Okay that's weird

So i was looking around fort zancudo cause someone mentioned that the soldiers have weird badges, and then i found this.

https://preview.redd.it/6hak7zibpb0h1.png?width=604&format=png&auto=webp&s=e0474781f0e14efd3cf286a0b0189cac760e7910

Didn't know what to make of it at first but then i remembered something from the tract.

https://preview.redd.it/u82ziixnpb0h1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=8867499466a46db35ebf07a0ee2359f6e5ca7374

I don't think that's a coincidence and i will keep investigating.

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u/AntelopeIcy6558 — 5 months ago

So in this post https://www.reddit.com/r/chiliadmystery/comments/j3han5/id_like_to_talk_about_this_painting/ this guy states that there is a puzzle in this painting (i have no idea where it is from). Now you'll notice that in this painting there is an eagle flying above a rook chess piece among other things and this is the reason i brought this up. I noticed in the Los Santos university logo we can see something very similar. The tower on the seal looks very much like a rook. i also noticed how theres a weird rope looking think below the tower, that resembles a chess board. anyways i jsut randomly noticed this and decided to share. what do you think?

https://preview.redd.it/qlf3qwrh7rzg1.png?width=616&format=png&auto=webp&s=70547b46cbd74ada96215bdd46f1c00e212ef3d4

https://preview.redd.it/ttcdah3l6rzg1.png?width=435&format=png&auto=webp&s=18ba674e5928b0906fd8a6e49eadd89616fe0633

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u/AntelopeIcy6558 — 5 months ago

  1. https://forge.plebmasters.de/map?x=288.2538253825383&y=-1601.442956795679&z=6&b=Realmap&o=User+Marker
  2. https://forge.plebmasters.de/map?x=189.27908415841588&y=-664.8746905940588&z=8&b=Realmap&o=User+Marker
  3. https://forge.plebmasters.de/map?x=-1415.7642326732673&y=-132.2042360486043&z=8&b=Realmap&o=User+Marker

what i find strange is that 2 of these places with keyholes are referenced in the epsilon tract (watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb1_NAtMkME&t=2s )

i also noticed that they are all pointing the same way. i will investigate more when i get my steam account back, but what do you think of this

u/AntelopeIcy6558 — 6 months ago