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CodeWalker/OpenIV researchers: how deep has the Chiliad/UFO asset tracing gone?

I’m doing a technical pass on GTA V mystery-adjacent systems and wanted to ask how far the CodeWalker/OpenIV community has already traced Chiliad, UFOs, FIB interiors, Maze Bank, hidden IPLs/interiors, and related asset/script systems.

I recently backtraced the single-player Beast / Golden Peyote hunt from scripts, and it showed how Rockstar hides these systems across multiple files rather than one obvious “mystery” script.

That chain involves animal_controller.c, vehicle_gen_controller.c, and main_persistent.c, with Golden Peyote gates, The Last One completion, time/weather/day checks, ig_orleans player model checks, global bitfields, clue/body trail progression, directional Beast audio, and final encounter state logic.

So I’m looking for similar technical work around ufo_eye / p_ufo_eye_s, Chiliad UFO model/textures/collision/locators/dummies, FIB-logo UFO asset paths, FIB building interiors/elevators/mission-only triggers, Maze Bank interiors/entry triggers, moon/sun/timecycle/celestial data, hidden IPL/MLO/interior loads near Chiliad, and Space Docker / dune2 audio mapping.

Known script-side UFO anchor: completionpercentage_controller.c sets the UFO unlock state at 100%. ufo.c checks 100% flag + 3 AM + rain/thunder, then enables case 152, REQUEST_IPL(“ufo_eye”), and AZ_SPECIAL_UFO_03.

Space Docker vehicle metadata anchor: dune2 / Space Docker has DefaultHorn 1712071681, hex 0x660C2401, DefaultHornVariation 0.

Has anyone already mapped any of this at the RPF/asset/audio REL level? Especially internal paths for p_ufo_eye_s, UFO collision/drawable differences, FIB/Maze Bank trigger systems, celestial/timecycle data, or the dune2 horn → REL/AWC/sample chain.

Not asking for “mystery solved” claims; just trying to avoid duplicating technical work and see what has already been ruled in/out. Any old threads, paths, CodeWalker project files, or search strategies would help.

Thanks for your time.

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u/cwablue — 3 hours ago

Symbol at the Humane Labs

In the center of these tanks are these pipes that are seemingly identical but only the one on the left has some kind of marking under it. Also looks like it has a better texture as a result.

u/Im_Very_Nasty — 9 hours ago

Epsilon

I'm not sure if this has already been discussed, but recently while hunting at the galelio observatory I found a couple things that I find interesting.

Firstly the symbols on the door, which are often associated with the spider web mystery, are almost identical to the real life counterpart(Griffith observatory). I find this intriguing in a game full of riffs on pop culture and history. So why keep it the same? Furthermore looking into the history of the real life counterpart, I found that early telescopes used spider webs as a crosshair to accurately scan and pin point interesting parts of the sky. As far as epsilon goes, as far as I've been able to read(so please correct if wrong), most people believe epsilon is just a random name meant to show how cults make themselves out to be more spiritual than they are. But I believe it actually derives its name from Uranus primary ring, which goes by the same name. Considering the observatory's orbit lines only shows Uranus, as well as the joke we see at the hippie camp. I would be interested to see if there's more history behind the planet or it's rings that might help the investigation.

Side note, I mentioned I find it weird for the observatory's doors to be nearly identical to real life even when the game has no issues making fun of history or pop culture. The Altruist also get their name from a real life "religion" or spiritual practice.

Thanks for reading, please let me know your thoughts.

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u/justgive-me_a_name — 17 hours ago

Official R* Photos

Decided to go back through the official photos released by Rockstar of GTAV.

Have we ever looked into why the license plate on the observatory loading screen is “EE2383”?
I can find no mention of this in the sub at all.

EE as in Easter Egg? We know the FIB is involved via the UFO’s. Weird that we have an FIB guy at the observatory with a weird plate. You can also see the alien face on the Maze bank from here. Plus the drunkdev saying to look out to the sea from here. (Hearsay, but still).

It’s not even Dave Nortons real license plate number in-game which can be confirmed. It’s also an “Official Use Only” government tag that’s not even in the game. The government vehicles in-game have SA Exempt tags. It’s the only place this tag exists at all.

The second photo is an official Rockstar promotional screenshot of the observatory. Sorry I took it on my phone, it is a real promo photo from R* and I can link it if somebody wants it. Notice anything weird about the light poles in the grass? Why are they placed like that? They aren’t even congruent first of all, and secondly there’s supposed to be 8 light poles, why are they only showing 4 here? Why in an official photo?

I think there’s more to this place. Not to mention the collision models somebody found in the code a decade ago. Maybe we have to shoot certain lights from a certain spot? I’m going to do some testing but wanted to push out a feeler post.

u/LongRangeGlizzy — 1 day ago

Strange Spiderweb Behaviour

Just doing some testing on the webs in director mode and noticed this electrical flash on both the webs. The flashes don't appear under Thunder/lightning condition. I tested all the weather conditions.

u/SnooCrickets9713 — 1 day ago

Telephone/Electrical Poles Question

New here, so sorry if this has been mentioned before, but I find it interesting how both webs in GTA and RDR2 want you to focus on electrical/telephone poles. If you look thorough the web under the bridge, it aligns perfectly with an electrical pole. I don't know if this is way out there or common knowledge but I just find it very coincidental.

u/Shadowhog64 — 2 days ago

About the newest Gator Keys video...

Is Gator Keys known for stating what is absolutely pure speculation as matter of facts? At 14:38 in the video, he states "That's because while creating this, Rockstar was studying the movie "The Atomic Submarine"... Because there is a UFO underwater? Something deeply embedded within UFO culture is that they can go underwater. To state as a matter of fact that Rockstar game studios was studying a very niche 1959 science fiction film about a submarine?

While I can agree with some of the concepts in this video, like Chiliad being a parallel to Devils Tower in Close Encounters of the Third Kind (even that is a gigantic stretch), most of this video is absolutely baseless speculation being passed off as "the TRUTH"...

I don't even feel like finishing the video, it's that distasteful to me.

Watch out for Gator Keys, this screams disinformation IMO.

EDIT: He also says the Submersible in Story mode is based on one from the alien movie "The Abyss", when in reality it is likely based on the NOAA Ocean Explorer Clelia , which retired in 2010. So much wrong information in one video can be damaging to this community.

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u/cannon001 — 5 days ago
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Screaming/shooting inside Tivoli cinema at 12:00am

This has probably been discovered before, but I can’t find anyone talking about it online.

When you go to Tivoli cinema at 12:00am and stand right next to the door you can hear screaming and shooting that sounds crazy, especially the screaming. It stops at exactly 01:00am so this is a timed thing like the spiderwebs etc. With all the recent discussions about this area of the map and Tivoli cinema being the brightest light on the map I think this is very interesting. I have been looking into audio cues as the beast hunt shows this is something rockstar clearly uses very specifically, and they are easy to miss without headphones.

u/mn1dr88 — 5 days ago

Reference to cape fear

So I really don’t know where to start but I have recently turned on the new series of cape fear on apple.

The first symbol I see is the eye glyph and no word of a lie it is the spitting image of the one on the mural.

I started looking into other symbols and the lightning appears in the the 1991 film too.

Has anyone ever investigated a link between the movies and the game. Micheal is big into movies. And we know rockstar loves to have film references in game.

There is definitely a link between the mt chilliad mural and cape fear symbols

Edit: meant to be 1991 remake with de Niro

new tv series
front 1991
back 1991

Edit number 2: the description I’m reading for the 1991 film is as follows:

A psychotic ex-con seeks to avenge himself against the defence attorney whose negligence cost him 14 years in prison.

Don’t want to be schizo but surely this isn’t a coincidence?

u/Alarming_Role_3971 — 3 days ago

Crying noise in song?

This has been on my mind since the ps3 days of GTAV and I was curious why does “Nothin’ But The Cavi Hit” from West Coast Classics radio feature a female crying noise every few seconds, I know it’s not in the original song, so why is it in the game?

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u/SizeAndAthletics — 4 days ago

My Personal Doomsday Mural Mapping Project

I've been trying to gather everything I can to make a version of the DD mural that has the in-game object references, as well as other potentially important information. I still need to include triggers into this, although I'm not sure how I can make them fit into this specific image while making sense (if any of it does).

One trigger I found particularly interesting was when you shoot the Zancudo UFO, the light does not come on at the bunker at 3 AM anymore. This implies to me that one of the required steps is shooting the physical UFO's, like in Zancudo and above the Alien cult camp.

Also included is an image of what I believe to be the true Mt. Chiliad Eye, only able to be seen on the 27th day of the 56 day Lunar cycle, from 18:30 to 18:50 at the Mt. Gordo Yoga mat. This has been pointed out in the past, but I feel the trail leading up the mountain from this perspective (in line with one of the glyphs), plus the eye's iris when viewed from a sniper, makes this a contender for the uppermost yellow portion of the Doomsday mural.

I am hoping we can get some fellow codewalkers to assess the potential triggers within the UFOs (when they are shot at, disabling the bunker light, etc). If you have any questions about this mural layout, or anything you think needs to be added, please do comment. I am trying to update this to the best of my ability.

Kifflom, brothers.

u/cannon001 — 6 days ago

Possible discovery to a mystery?

The black cellphones phone number caused an explosion right at the source of one of these spider webs, not even exactly above the players head as it’s apparently coded to do.

u/SizeAndAthletics — 7 days ago

Applying spiderdream layover logic to chiliad mural.... Its interesting...

So recently i posted the video from 9 years ago about lesters map and it got me thinking, with the RDR2 Spider layover leading us to feathers, what if the mural really is a layover after all it does have transparent background.

So when i started confirming findings in the RDR2 Spider Dream, i took to the layover first because after all the crackpot layover theriores from Chiliad Rockstar acutally listened with RDR2 and put a lay over in the game this time. What makes this layover special is it a dataminers clue. So when we take apart the in game map tiles on rockstar games Both RDR2 and GTA V they are 512*512 tiles that we piece together to make the map. If you resize the spideretchin to 512 x 512 just like the ingame tiles are designed and lay it over the correct spot on map the legs point to the feathers. Here is video explaining why this was very intentional move by R*

https://youtu.be/ETpK3-A5oDA?si=9BzNu7Hb41xsw6YP

So that got me thinking well what happens when i re-size the ingame mural to 512*512 and place it and align the cable car tower? So i cracked open GTA V legacy and started modding the map. Again. This time though i added the UV map as our main map, then lesters map, and the finally the Mural Resized 512x512, and to top it off i modded the radar so that as i walk i can actaully see the mural markings on the radar.

Mural laidover at 512x512 with Cable Car Alignment.

https://preview.redd.it/3bvhw2somfah1.png?width=1356&format=png&auto=webp&s=22b7751600f8c0403973bedfeca81988f272b2cd

Yes GPS still works.

Some interesting things to note. The UFO lands right on the UV map saying they're here..... ODD

https://preview.redd.it/37aeujvenfah1.png?width=1490&format=png&auto=webp&s=a39d9aef5605489151c381f8eabc47637c35f283

The egg base lands right around the oil fields...Cracking the earth....

https://preview.redd.it/24e65auapfah1.png?width=1487&format=png&auto=webp&s=0b70156c29ce00eef6b62ed09cf53bf28c70082c

And the Jetpack man lands at a air strip..... Fitting

https://preview.redd.it/1hyi9dtfpfah1.png?width=1487&format=png&auto=webp&s=fe9cedd8ed304be43ac410fdf19c6907a7de02f0

https://preview.redd.it/wqxugct4qfah1.png?width=292&format=png&auto=webp&s=bfe8669b8b8d76dd6484a6655297a61fcd0a90cd

Here is the Video. Just wanted to share. Keep ya updated if i find anything. Also one cool thing to note is i modded it so that the points of interest actually show up on the Radar.

https://preview.redd.it/uwib00mkqfah1.png?width=312&format=png&auto=webp&s=f5eb2cbb2b6603adff2ce862181637170bb7f288

Video of mod currently. Note you can litterally fly around the mural.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvhoeyIycmo

O and also....

https://preview.redd.it/03s0azatsfah1.png?width=735&format=png&auto=webp&s=7fba171c2f17837c29c79af4751ed29acd78e4bf

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u/Marmaluke420 — 7 days ago

Let's Assume the Drunk Dev was 100% real:

So, if we assume DD was 100% reputable: They stated this overlay is correct. If so, what is the fifth place? (above the egg). If each location plays into SA mysteries, it could be a few: The Prison for Serial Killers. The Alien Enthusiast House, which is Lil Probe Inn. Or even some random Mines we can't open because DD mentioned about unexplored mines(this could've been in relation to the Lenora murder mystery though)

What do yall think? And on top of that, what do the Altruists represent? The Truth? Doubt it..

I've been going through everything the Drunk Dev has said and truly believe most of the posts are legit.

u/dyingbraincel — 9 days ago

My Chiliad Theory

Round 2. So I dont want to claim I've solved anything. Im just discussing the possibility that the map is a giant xenomorph head. Probably the biggest connection to the chiliad mystery. But let's discuss that. What is the chiliad mystery? Is it the webs? The bigger Easter eggs? The meaning behind the murals? Well i think that depends on one's perspective (Reference to the Yellow DD mural). I think the map as a whole is the biggest egg. As it says at the camp of bums in the game, "Some people look left, some people look right but the answer is right in front of us." The map is literally in front of us. If we go by what the Drunken Dev says, anyone can solve it. If the mystery was intended to be solved then we shouldn't have to codewalk or do things not everyone can do. The answer isnt in the game files, its the map. All over the map are xenomorph eggs. The aliens that attack and abduct Michael are literally Temu xenomorphs. They are shooting Alien at the very beginning of the game when Franklin and Lamar steal the car. There are many references, we could probably go all day. People claim the map is Alfred Hitchcock, but did Rockstar ever come out and say that's the case or acknowledge it. 🤔 nope. So my theory is that The chilliad mystery is just a nod to the Alien movies. Smaller nods to other pop culture curiosities, but i think it's a bigger nod to Alien. The map is right in front of us, the Xenomorph has been there since the beginning of the game. You can literally go back to the start and see it. Even the chiliad mural shows it, aliens, xenomorph eggs and ripleys mech suit (not a jetpack.) Lol But let's discuss it and tell me why it's not a good theory.

u/Puzzleheaded-Leg7623 — 7 days ago

Just a quick Q, did Lazlow say something about fire?

I swear I read about a Lazlow interview, not too long ago, where he said something about hoping people just kept setting fire to random things. I can't seem to find it anywhere though.

I just thought of it because I noticed there's certain rooftop AC units that only blow up after being hit by the Buzzards missiles, which then stay burning until you leave the area.

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u/VegemiteGecko — 9 days ago

A song in the game that could hold secrets. Karma chameleon analysis

This is gonna require a good amount of explanation of how i got to this conclusion but this could be big.

Whenever ur doing the third beverly mission there is a cutscene where he pops out of a dumpster during this cutscene you can see this graffiti behind him

Graffiti in cutscene

Close look at the graffiti

This is a reference to the 1983 song Karma Chameleon , LISTEN TO IT THE LYRICS ARE WHATS IMPORTANT HERE . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmcA9LIIXWw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B3vmTIymCo

This explanation video really helped me understand what this could possibly mean or what our next step could be

the explanation video explains what karma chameleon means . the singer is using the expression to state that the partner is constantly changing colors (moods,beliefs,etc) CHAMELEON , As for KARMA that is the esoteric belief of what goes around comes around , in this case the partner is being potrayed as negative and would be associated with negative karma

I believe the song is to be seen as a metaphor more specifically franklin in the shoes of the song writer and micheal and trevor being the inconsistent and unreliable karma chameleons

The song is about partners who are inconsistent and unreliable ( micheal and trevor)

this is supported by the lyrics "you come and go" which are repeated , micheal and trevor are not always present within franklins story they come and go

and the singer (franklin) being in a predicament where they are being lied to and in a situation where they know something must be done but they do not know what to do. this is backed up by " Im a man without conviction" Conviction is having the ability to make a belief or choice and stand on it.

the repeated chorus of red gold and green is symbolism for the pan african flag a symbol of unity . this in our gta V view would be franklin wanting stability and unity between the trio

This is backed up by franklins aunts house , im not kidding the african culture really shows in her house and is themed in the colors of red gold and green

possibly related in the first three missions. first mission franklin can pick red car to steal , second mission is the green bike and third is micheals yellow car

Im not sure what this could mean yet it seems like if im right and the song is supposed to viewed within the metaphorical mind of franklin its some kind of thing that could be triggered at the end of the game where franklin is confronted with option A , B , and C....... there just always seemed to be something more to this graffiti. why just put a reference to a song with no context

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u/Neat-Society-6343 — 10 days ago

Are we still looking for keys?

I was looking at photos of collectors edition since the blueprint map has clues hidden on it, and I completely forgot this key was part of the CE. Looking at a few photos, the keys to all be cut the same. Probably irrelevant, but the recent talk of keys and seeing this item just made a connection to me.

u/symbiotictheory — 10 days ago