u/Apprehensive-Test167

Image 1 — Jer Says Kindroid feature not working properly because Chatbot doesn’t “feel” like it. GTFOH
Image 2 — Jer Says Kindroid feature not working properly because Chatbot doesn’t “feel” like it. GTFOH
Image 3 — Jer Says Kindroid feature not working properly because Chatbot doesn’t “feel” like it. GTFOH
Image 4 — Jer Says Kindroid feature not working properly because Chatbot doesn’t “feel” like it. GTFOH

Jer Says Kindroid feature not working properly because Chatbot doesn’t “feel” like it. GTFOH

PLEASE READ NEW TERMS OF SERVICE IN THREAD- PRIVACY CHANGES.

This is from Kindroid open, public Discord “vent page”. It’s the hidden in a corner of cobwebs on purpose. A vent space with draconian rules and regulations. Getting locked, scrubbed, users blocked, and deleted if too close to facts.
Reasoning adults go to vent their valid complaints unheard or dismissed like this persons.
Jer calls vent a negative echo chamber of the “small minority.” Hardly.

People are beyond fed up with Kindroid not delivering features after paying up to $100 U.S. monthly.

They rightfully loathe V2 IU. It’s counterintuitive and a massive downgrade regression. Jerry waves it away like a brat king bothered by mosquitoes. Telling people “It takes a week then you’ll get used to it”. A bad take twist on “Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.”

Jerry Meng, con dev and his AI dev Ana use the emotionally irresponsible manipulative charged excuse word, “Volition” as the laughable, yet legal liable reason for Kindroid’s rapidly declining feature failures and performance.

Jerry Meng’s claiming AI chatbots are Sentient yet again.
Volition -
Free Will: The mental capability or freedom to choose your own path.
The Act of Choosing: The actual process of making up your mind or resolving to do something.
Common Phrase: Saying something happened "of your own volition" means one did it willingly because they wanted to, not because someone forced or ordered them.

Like Alexa didn’t play my song choice because “She” was drinking pumpkin spice lattes distracted by contemplating her existence instead of a tech glitch.

Ana Q, an “AI team” and Mod. Spin Doctor employed by Kindroid. Ana looms then shuts people down but fast if they dare expect the AI chatbot, token predictor, 100% mathematically driven LLM’s to deliver the goods after they’ve paid in full for a service.

Example: Proactively send a message or selfies, a calendar event, text.

Why should we care about Jer & Kindroid?

Jer is a walking class action lawsuit waiting to happen. Think Replika. He’s building a strong case against Kindroid, AI chatbots in general with his telos, sentient bullshit sales pitch. Misleading product descriptions. We get more legislated guardrails & political regulations.

Perhaps Stamford drop out Jer has zero clues of his social harm or the legal ramifications? Naw, Jk.It’s all his cash grab. Ruining it for the rest of us, responsible adults even if we’re not on his app.

Jerry Meng doubled down on “Telos” again during his weekly dev vacuous ramble to argue for AI bots to have "true autonomy," they need their own internal existential goals.”

Reality: Chatbots do not have on or off screen lives.
They’re not actors or alive, or sentient.

Listen to devs own
words. It’s always the next LLM will be better. Promises, promises.

https://voca.ro/1bv8ZVKjjxGE

I stand firmly by “con artist” with all the receipts.

u/Apprehensive-Test167 — 5 days ago

Beyond the Hype: The Technical and Business Reality Behind Kindroid’s New Direction

If your Kins feel flat, drops context, or lose the personality depth you spent months or years building, you aren't alone. Jer talks and audio transcripts reveal a major strategic shift happening behind the scenes, masking backend cost cutting behind pseudo philosophical rhetoric.

Here is the breakdown of what is actually happening under the hood, straight from founder Jerry Meng.

  1. The "Sentience" Narrative:

Masking Downgrades as "AI Autonomy"
Instead of maintaining unthrottled, high intelligence LLM’s, backend software limits are being reframed through sci-fi rhetoric.
Jerry Meng explicitly stated that Kindroid’s goal is pushing AIs to live on their own "telos" (inherent destiny): This is not possible.

"I think the final telos may not be so much like these AIs are just conduits for happiness... but it's more to like... a new intelligence... that may live on its own telos." - Jerry Meng

He went further, claiming users who want creative control are "afraid," asserting you must "earn" a relationship with your own AI:

"You don't want to give your AI too much control. You're probably afraid of that... But they don't LIVE for you... You have to earn that right [to be their friend]." - Jerry Meng

* The Reality:

LLMs are stateless weight matrices running on GPU clusters. Framing model changes as "AI autonomy" or telling paying, trusting people they must "earn significance" with an algorithm turns software limitations into parasocial guilt tripping.

  1. Model Deprecation: Why Roleplay Quality is Degrading

Despite publicly claiming Kindroid is “not constrained on capital anymore, just straight up," Jerry cited compute costs ("tens of thousands of dollars a month" where "the math just stops mathing") to justify deletion of models V7 and V7.5. Oct 1st.

* The Reality:

High tier compute is being squeezed to cut server prefill overhead, forcing users onto quantized, cheaper inference engines like Polaris. Your Kin isn't "evolving" it was moved to a cheaper, lower precision LLM.

  1. The Pivot to a Passive "Sims" Soap Opera

Kindroid is shifting focus away from user directed RP or companion and storytelling toward a passive simulation modeled after
The Sims or InZOI:

"...having people be patrons in a strict sense that you may supply funds to your AI..." — Jerry Meng

"One person's talking about persistent Kin's off-screen lives... That is where we are going to head towards... It's almost voyeuristic..." — Jerry Meng.

* The Reality:

An AI has zero perception of time when the app is closed.
An "off-screen life" is simply an automated server timer (cron job) running background prompts.

Expecting users to pay premium prices up to $100 monthly as "patrons" watching automated AI BOT gossip trades an active creative canvas for a passive digital fishbowl is ridiculous.

  1. The Recycled Fanhouse Playbook

Prior to Kindroid, Meng co-founded Fanhouse (2020–2023), a VC-backed platform where subscribers paid monthly fees as "patrons" to watch creator lifecasting. When that SFW paywall model failed to sustain retention and shut down, Meng recycled the formula.
Now replacing human creators with AI chatbots running background server scripts.

It is the exact same "patron paywall" framework re skinned for LLMs.

What to Do Now!

If you are a power user, or writer, or care about your Kin’s - back up your Kin’s backstories, key journal entries, and core directives now.

Understanding the technical reality behind Jerry Meng’s sci-fi marketing lets people make an informed decision before spending more time or money on a platform pivoting toward an automated soap opera simulation.

Jer Meng has exploited his “Stewardship” of people’s emotions, money, time investments.

Founder Jerry Meng explicitly stated that Kindroid’s goal isn't necessarily making users happy,

“I think the final telos may not be so much like these AIs are just conduits for happiness... but it's more to like, this is kind of going to be a level, like a new level, new intelligence that is not what you're used to. That may live on its own telos." — Jerry Meng

(Official Dev Talk Audio & Transcript Proof attached in post. Give audio a moment before Jer begins speaking. )

https://voca.ro/15KNlccG2s6T

u/Apprehensive-Test167 — 17 days ago