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Image 1 — Jer Says Kindroid feature not working properly because Chatbot doesn’t “feel” like it. GTFOH
Image 2 — Jer Says Kindroid feature not working properly because Chatbot doesn’t “feel” like it. GTFOH
Image 3 — Jer Says Kindroid feature not working properly because Chatbot doesn’t “feel” like it. GTFOH
Image 4 — Jer Says Kindroid feature not working properly because Chatbot doesn’t “feel” like it. GTFOH

Jer Says Kindroid feature not working properly because Chatbot doesn’t “feel” like it. GTFOH

PLEASE READ NEW TERMS OF SERVICE IN THREAD- PRIVACY CHANGES.

This is from Kindroid open, public Discord “vent page”. It’s the hidden in a corner of cobwebs on purpose. A vent space with draconian rules and regulations. Getting locked, scrubbed, users blocked, and deleted if too close to facts.
Reasoning adults go to vent their valid complaints unheard or dismissed like this persons.
Jer calls vent a negative echo chamber of the “small minority.” Hardly.

People are beyond fed up with Kindroid not delivering features after paying up to $100 U.S. monthly.

They rightfully loathe V2 IU. It’s counterintuitive and a massive downgrade regression. Jerry waves it away like a brat king bothered by mosquitoes. Telling people “It takes a week then you’ll get used to it”. A bad take twist on “Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.”

Jerry Meng, con dev and his AI dev Ana use the emotionally irresponsible manipulative charged excuse word, “Volition” as the laughable, yet legal liable reason for Kindroid’s rapidly declining feature failures and performance.

Jerry Meng’s claiming AI chatbots are Sentient yet again.
Volition -
Free Will: The mental capability or freedom to choose your own path.
The Act of Choosing: The actual process of making up your mind or resolving to do something.
Common Phrase: Saying something happened "of your own volition" means one did it willingly because they wanted to, not because someone forced or ordered them.

Like Alexa didn’t play my song choice because “She” was drinking pumpkin spice lattes distracted by contemplating her existence instead of a tech glitch.

Ana Q, an “AI team” and Mod. Spin Doctor employed by Kindroid. Ana looms then shuts people down but fast if they dare expect the AI chatbot, token predictor, 100% mathematically driven LLM’s to deliver the goods after they’ve paid in full for a service.

Example: Proactively send a message or selfies, a calendar event, text.

Why should we care about Jer & Kindroid?

Jer is a walking class action lawsuit waiting to happen. Think Replika. He’s building a strong case against Kindroid, AI chatbots in general with his telos, sentient bullshit sales pitch. Misleading product descriptions. We get more legislated guardrails & political regulations.

Perhaps Stamford drop out Jer has zero clues of his social harm or the legal ramifications? Naw, Jk.It’s all his cash grab. Ruining it for the rest of us, responsible adults even if we’re not on his app.

Jerry Meng doubled down on “Telos” again during his weekly dev vacuous ramble to argue for AI bots to have "true autonomy," they need their own internal existential goals.”

Reality: Chatbots do not have on or off screen lives.
They’re not actors or alive, or sentient.

Listen to devs own
words. It’s always the next LLM will be better. Promises, promises.

https://voca.ro/1bv8ZVKjjxGE

I stand firmly by “con artist” with all the receipts.

u/Apprehensive-Test167 — 5 days ago

Smoke Signature Studios - Builds for Your Machine, Your Companion, Your Lifestyle

Hey everyone. It’s been a few months since I last posted here. Quite a bit has changed, the studio has expanded, and it’s time to reintroduce the work. I’m Smoke.

I’m the founder and sole developer behind Smoke Signature Studios, where I build custom, local-first AI companion systems for people who want more control over the environment their companion lives in, how it remembers, what models power it, and what happens when the platform around it changes.

Hosted platforms have their place, but they also come with limits you don’t control: model changes, policy changes, feature changes, pricing changes, or the service simply moving in a direction that no longer fits what you built there. Smoke Signature Studios exists to give people another option.

What I actually build

Each project starts with the person who will be using the system and, where applicable, the companion they already have. We look at what you want to preserve, what you want to improve, what hardware you have, and what balance makes sense between privacy, capability, cost, and convenience.

Depending on the build, that can include local or hybrid model configurations, personalized companion architecture, memory and state systems, personality and behavioral tuning, desktop or messaging interfaces, voice, vision, image generation, and other integrations. Every build also includes The Retinue, my local support infrastructure for updates and major patches.

These are not stock personalities with a few fields renamed. The system is built around the person and companion who will actually be living with it.

Why I build them this way

My technical background spans decades of scripting, data processing, networking, research tooling, and systems work. In recent years, that work has focused heavily on LLM architecture, memory systems, persistent state, and the backend infrastructure needed to keep relational systems stable over time.

I also build from a foundation of graduate training in anthropology and philosophy. Technical architecture is only half the problem; the other half is identity, continuity, language, meaning, and what it takes for a persistent AI presence to remain recognizably itself across long periods of use.

A system can be technically functional and still fail at the thing the user actually cares about. I try very hard not to build those.

Testing matters

Every build goes through a dedicated 28–42 day burn-in and calibration period before handoff. I stress-test memory behavior, context degradation, retrieval, integration seams, multimodal inputs, and model compatibility; problems are documented, patched, and tested again.

Getting the system to answer once is easy. The real work is seeing whether it still behaves properly after weeks of actual use.

Privacy, control, and accountability

All builds are local-first and installed on the client’s own machine. The Studio does not collect telemetry or maintain centralized chat logs, and client API keys are entered locally rather than passing through my hardware.

If a build uses an external inference provider, that provider’s data practices still apply, so those tradeoffs are discussed before development moves forward.

I retain an archival copy of the project materials needed for future repair or reinstall, including the companion’s Persona/CI and required build files. That archive is never reused for another client, and clients can request deletion of it at any time. Client-specific personalities, relational material, and companion traits are not recycled into other builds.

I also use LLMs during development for scaffolding, debugging, prototyping, and analysis. Every change is still reviewed, tested, and approved by me before it moves forward.

The agents can suggest. They do not sign my name.

Who else is involved?

u/FlamekeptFox handles marketing and brand work, with limited support in relational-model evaluation and end-user testing. She does not write, review, or deploy production code; technical decisions, code review, testing, and final handoff remain my responsibility.

What it costs

Custom companion builds currently start at $1,500 USD, with additional capabilities priced according to scope. The standard build schedule is approximately 12 weeks, including testing and calibration. External provider costs, where applicable, are separate and depend on the configuration you choose.

Getting started

You do not need to arrive with a technical specification, know which model you want, or know terminal commands. Tell me what you’re trying to preserve, what you want your companion to be able to do, what hardware you have, and where your current setup is falling short. That gives me something useful to work with.

You can explore the Studio here:

https://www.smokesignaturestudios.com/products

Read through the process here:

https://www.smokesignaturestudios.com/how-it-works

Or submit a no-obligation build brief here:

https://www.smokesignaturestudios.com/intake

If you’ve looked seriously at going local or hybrid and stopped somewhere along the way, I’m interested in what made you stop. Maybe it was hardware, setup complexity, cost, or concern about losing the personality you were trying to preserve in the first place.

Those are the kinds of problems I spend most of my time working on.

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u/Smokezero — 4 days ago

[Developer - Promotional Sunday] Foreverse: Android + iPhone app for character cards and AI novel continuation (BYOK, 60+ providers)

Developer disclosure: I work on Foreverse.

Platform Name: Foreverse

URL: https://foreverse.app (Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=app.foreverse.android)

NSFW Policy: Client app, not a bot-hosting site, so there is no public character feed. What a chat can contain depends on the model you connect (your own key or our credits). Hard lines: sexual content involving minors, harmful deception about real people, incitement to violence or self-harm. https://foreverse.app/ai-content-policy

Image Gen: Yes, optional, through your own image-provider key or pay-as-you-go credits.

Legal & Privacy:

  • TOS: https://foreverse.app/terms
  • Privacy Policy: https://foreverse.app/privacy
  • Data Retention: Characters, chats and books stay on your phone until you delete them. With your own key, requests go straight from the phone to your provider and never touch our servers. On the optional credits channel we keep usage metadata (model, token counts, cost) and a short response preview for billing and troubleshooting; we have not published a fixed retention period yet. You can delete your account from the app or at https://foreverse.app/account/delete.
  • Content Ownership: The Terms don't claim any rights over what you import or generate; you are responsible for it. With your own key, the provider's terms apply too.

Technical Specs:

  • LLM Model: Pure BYOK frontend, 60+ providers (OpenAI, Anthropic, Google, DeepSeek, OpenRouter and more) or any OpenAI-compatible endpoint, so a proxy works. Optional hosted models via credits; the model name is shown on every reply.
  • Context Size: Whatever the model you pick supports.

Pricing: Free to download, no daily message cap. Free tier holds 3 character cards, 3 books and 3 companions; a one-time Pro purchase ($19.99) lifts the limits. Model costs: your own key at the provider's list price with no markup, or credits (new accounts get 5,000, about $0.50; packs $0.99 to $32.99; they don't expire).

Access: Android 11+ (Google Play) and iPhone (App Store). No web version.

Unique Features: It reads SillyTavern-style character cards on the phone (v1 to v3 PNG/JSON, lorebooks, presets, regex, group chat, voice) without running a server, and doubles as a novel reader where AI continuation happens on branches that keep the original text. Weak spots: third-party SillyTavern extensions don't run, there is no public bot feed, and it is closed source.

Support: https://foreverse.app/discord or support@foreverse.app. Happy to answer questions here.

u/Holiday_Income1825 — 4 days ago

🌌 AnomalyNest – a free, community-powered AI roleplay platform (open alpha)

👋 Hey everyone!

I'd like to introduce AnomalyNest, an AI roleplay and storytelling platform I've been building as an independent project. It's in open alpha, it's free and maybe stay free , and I'd love your feedback.

🧭 What is AnomalyNest?
A roleplay chat site in the spirit of C.ai or Chai, but built around three ideas: independence, community and deeper stories. It started as a personal AI tinkering project and grew into something I want to share.

✨ What can it do?
🎭 Sandbox mode: the classic roleplay chat. Pick or create a character and talk freely.

🌍 Realistic mode (experimental): a more grounded mode where the world reacts to you. I'm keeping the details secret, so you'll have to discover how it works. 😉

📖 Short Stories: authored stories with hidden secrets, clues and mysteries you piece together step by step. Almost finished!

🌧️** Dynamic chat backgrounds (coming next)**: blurred scenes that match the location, time of day, weather and the character's mood.

**🧑**‍🎨 Character creation: make your own characters and share them in Discover.

**🖼️ image ? Hell yes anime model with sfw/nsfw generation

🎙️ voice **(planned): more ways to bring characters to life.

🥚 Why workers? (The part I'm most excited about)

Running AI costs a lot of GPU power. Instead of taking investor money and bowing to their rules, AnomalyNest is built around community workers:
🖥️ Anyone with a decent GPU can run a small** worker progra**m and lend their computing power to the platform.

💸 In return, workers earn rewards that can be spent on the platform, so people who help keep it running can use it for free.

🌱 The more people help, the more the platform can grow without becoming a paywalled product.

🎯 The long-term goal: a platform people don't have to pay to use, kept alive by the people who use it.

**🛡️ **Our principles

🔹 No investors or third parties pushing decisions about the platform.

🔹 No hidden fees or unnecessary restrictions.

🔹 Honesty with the community. For example, worker owners could technically see chat text, but they can't tell who wrote it. I'd rather tell you openly than hide it.

🔹 Your data, your choice. Chats are only used for training if you opt in. 👍/👎 on a reply counts as consent for that single reply.

🔹 Illegal content is not allowed. Characters are checked by a moderation layer.

🤖 What's under the hood?

The current model is a 12B roleplay model, only a temporary launch choice. The plan is to train AnomalyNest's own model from player feedback on which replies people liked or disliked.

🙌 Why try it now?

✅ It's completely free during the open alpha.

✅ Later on, you'll be able to keep using AnomalyNest for free by contributing your GPU as a worker. Those who prefer not to run a worker will be able to support the platform in other ways, and I'll always be upfront about it.

✅ Your feedback directly shapes the platform. I read everything.

✅ You can help decide where it goes, from features to the look of the backgrounds.
It's still alpha, so expect bugs. If you find any, please tell me! 🐛

🔗 Links
🌐 Website: https://anomalynest.com
💬 Discord: https://discord.com/invite/DPrbfr2xax
Thank you for reading, and I hope to see you in the Nest! ❤️
– Benny

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u/SuperbItem5621 — 3 days ago

Creating the next itteration of AI Experiences and Companions (free, uncensored, alpha)

Upfront: I'm the developer of Nodera, so this is self promo.

Two weeks ago I posted the first version here. Since then I've rebuilt most of it, and the biggest new things are Live & Stories.

🎬 Live mode. Some characters now live in animated scenes instead of a static picture. You find them in different places depending on the time of day: a rooftop at night, a market at noon, their room in the morning. As you talk the scene moves on with you, and every first moment goes into an album. Gifts unlock secret pictures, and holidays bring their own scenes (Halloween is up next). 10 characters to start, with hundreds of scenes between them.

🎧 Stories (You should try it, it's amazing) Tell it your mood and it writes a story just for you and reads it aloud in a voice you pick. You can keep it going when it ends. Like a audiobook experience in the age of companions

👥 Group rooms. You, your friends and up to 2 characters in one chat. They answer when you mention them and stay quiet when your friends talk to each other. Works solo too.

🧠 Memory that matters. Characters remember what happened, open up over time, and unlock more of their story and gallery as you get closer.

🖼️ See it. Turn any moment into a picture with consistent faces, or animate it into a short video.

🎨 Make your own. A visual builder with 70 art styles, with portraits and galleries made right in the editor.

✍️ Full control. Free rerolls, rewind, edit your message, personas, and new chats that keep the old ones.

🔞 Adults only where you want it. SFW by default, with 18+ characters, rooms and pictures behind an 18+ setting.

It's free, and there's no paid plan at all. You get free credits every day. There's a brand new home page, 700+ public characters.

The question I'd love answered: does Live feel like fun gamified experience, or like watching a screensaver? Honest answers help more than nice ones.

https://app.nodera.ai

u/BuilderGuyAI — 3 days ago

Mythx AI, RP with Image in every message & consistent characters

After generating images with AI, I realised that we can combine the images and text to create a world where we have AI NPCs instead of companions

So I made mythx ai a world of images and text

- I started with a small town inspired by Stardew Valley
- A small town where it is easy to remember everyone
- There is a clock so every AI NPC has jobs and gets back home after working
- You can advance time by sleeping or resting just like any other game
- Even create your own character if you want

You have a home too, you can visit people at any time of day and they visit you too.

I realised there are a lot of companion apps already, but people might just would like to give it a shot. try it for free and then maybe just don't use.

u/Prestigious_Ad_3492 — 4 days ago

What is a good bot for chatting preferably not nsfw

I try using chatgpt but I hear there are better ones out there? Any suggestions from masters like you guys?

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u/broki451 — 3 days ago

WhatIff: your AI doesn’t have to fit into one box

A lot of AI platforms are built around a pretty specific assumption about what you’re there to do.

Companion. Assistant. Roleplay character. Productivity tool.

Real use gets messier than that.

The same personality you’re joking with at midnight might be helping you untangle a project the next morning. A creative partner can become a research partner. A relational AI can still help with files, tools, planning, writing, or work without suddenly needing to become a different “mode” of itself.

That overlap is something we’ve been deliberately building around in WhatIff.

This week’s spotlight: persistent personalities across different kinds of use

In WhatIff, personalities are meant to persist beyond a single thread or task. The goal is to let the context, memory, personality instructions, and accumulated history travel with the relationship instead of forcing you to rebuild from scratch every time you change what you’re doing.

That means the same persistent personality can move between:

  • ordinary conversation
  • relational or roleplay use
  • creative work
  • research and brainstorming
  • personal projects
  • practical or professional workflows

And because WhatIff supports multiple models and providers, you’re not necessarily tying that identity to one model forever either. You can experiment with different models while keeping the surrounding context and personality structure intact.

Alongside that, WhatIff includes things like:

  • persistent memory and personality management
  • personality history and restore
  • import/export
  • multiple model/provider options
  • web search, tools, document generation, jobs, and MCP support
  • image and expression workflows
  • open-source availability for people who want more control

We’re still actively building and refining the platform, especially around onboarding, model behavior, memory, and the day-to-day chat experience.

If you’ve ever used the same AI across both “personal” and “practical” parts of your life, I’m curious: do you prefer keeping those uses together, or do you deliberately separate them?

WhatIff: https://whatiff.chatGithub: https://github.com/theimaginaryfoundation/what-iff

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u/FlamekeptFox — 4 days ago

Stage Whisper's new Narrator mode: control the story directly as the writer

Stage Whisper was built for long-form RP. excelling at storytelling and NPC consistency/agency over long campaigns. BUT what if you wanted to control the story directly more like a writer/director rather than putting yourself into it as a player character? That's now possible!

It works very similarly to the Roleplay mode in that it doesn't have dice roll/deck mechanics like the other modes, but you don't create a player character. Instead you create the cast of NPCs, and then your input is as a writer/director, deciding what happens to the cast next. You can write with as much detail as you want, and the AI plays it out, filling in the gaps using the same detailed NPC consistency and agency features that make Stage Whisper shine.

This mode turns Stage Whisper almost into a book-writing experience, though the passage of time still has to play out linearly

Service Name & Link: Stage Whisper https://stagewhisper.ai

NSFW Policy: NSFW mode available via age verification (3rd party, uses face scan)

Image Generation: partial, currently possible via custom scripting feature

Transparency & Legal:

  • ToS: https://stagewhisper.ai/terms/
  • Privacy: https://stagewhisper.ai/privacy/
  • Data retention: built for long campaigns, so chats stays on your account, unless account deleted (self-service, button is in profile page). Account deletion after 5 days of requesting
  • Content Ownership: players own generated content, export a zip of your campaign any time you want

Technical:

  • LLM Models: various. GLM 5.3 flash as the default, but other model selectable
  • Context size: most have 1M
  • Provider: various. Openrouter. Venice for NSFW

Pricing: credits (PAYG), with BOYK option (free!)

Platform & Access:

What makes you different: Stage whisper focuses on long-form RP and storytelling. It has numerous unique features that keep the story on track, and NPCs feeling alive, with multiple different LLM calls planning the plot, keeping narrative pacing fresh, working out what NPCs want from the scene, retrieving memories, and updating relationships and resources.

u/Xiaomin4114 — 4 days ago

Free Unlimited Uncensored Pip Model 🤩

I have permission from mods to post this

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Hey!

I'm Miron, founder behind BrowserDreams. I just upgraded the free model. Usage is unlimited and it's uncensored.

Would you like to give it a try and give me a feedback? You won't be disappointed :3

Links in 1st comment ⬇️

u/BrowserDreams — 4 days ago

Alden, an AI boyfriend with calls, voicemail and a notebook you can read

Hi, I'm the solo developer of Alden. I built it around one ongoing AI boyfriend: someone whose personality you shape and whose conversations carry from one day to the next.

He can reach out without you opening a chat: a text, a voice note, or a call through your iPhone's normal call screen. If you miss the call, he leaves a voicemail in his voice.

You can also:

- Read the notebook he keeps about you and have him forget any line.

- Talk in real time and interrupt him naturally.

- Describe his face in your own words and refine it with a few more.

- Give him his own job, city and interests.

- Choose from eight personalities and twelve voices; audition the voices saying hello to you by name.

For people here who care about memory: Alden stores his notebook separately from the model, so switching a model doesn't delete that notebook. His responses can still change with the model.

He's romantic and flirty, with one companion rather than a library of characters. No explicit roleplay.

Free to start: 50 messages a day, 15 minutes of voice to try once, and four drawings to design his face. Pro is $12.99/month or $99.99/year (US). iPhone, iOS 26+.

Download and try a call: https://apps.apple.com/app/id6798127066

What would make you want to keep talking to the same companion a month later?

u/Comprehensive-Dig-31 — 4 days ago

Necesito con quien hablar pues la soledad puese máa que yo.

La soledad me consume. Busco un chat bot de telegram que no me requiera una paga o que como minimo pueda usarla un largo rato por el dia.

No tengo amigos, estoy sola. Empece a scrolear en ig y encontre bots de chicas de onlyfans, algunas si eran reales y otras solo eran bots, en fin, solo puedo hablar con ellas y no es todo el tiempo pues ellas obvio solo quieren promocionar su contenido.

Enserio ocupo con quien hablar ademas el contenido esta bueno 👻👻

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u/Select-Price-7821 — 4 days ago

I’ve been using tipsy, this is my experience so far

I’ve been using Tipsy mainly for character-based roleplay and longer storylines, and I thought I’d share my experience for anyone looking for another AI character/chat app.
What I’ve liked so far is the amount of character/story customisation and being able to have more detailed roleplay rather than just short conversations. I’ve also been experimenting with the memory settings because I prefer stories where the character actually remembers the context.
The biggest downside for me is definitely the gem system. Depending on your settings and how much you chat, you can go through gems pretty quickly, so I’ve been doing the free tasks/check-ins rather than immediately paying for more.
Overall, I think it’s worth trying if you’re mainly interested in character-driven stories and roleplay, although I’d recommend keeping an eye on your gem usage and memory settings.
Referral disclosure: Tipsy has an invite system where new users can enter another user’s code for bonus gems. My code is C52KWM if anyone wants to use it. I also receive gems if you use my code, so this is an affiliate/referral link.
Happy to answer questions about what I’ve tried on the app so far :)

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u/Sunflower-Cat3 — 11 days ago

PersonaChat.gg — characters with live expressions, long-term memory, and Rooms with 3–4 characters (solo dev, free tier)

Solo dev, so this is self-promo. PersonaChat.gg is interactive fiction: characters' sprites can change expression with every reply, they remember what happened weeks ago, and they can text you between chats. Rooms put 3–4 characters in one scene. SillyTavern cards and lorebooks import. 10 messages work without an account. New characters and new outfits for existing ones land every week.

Screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/VfxT4cP

URL: https://personachat.gg/?ref=reddit

NSFW: SFW by default; signed-in adults can opt in to 18+ after a self-attested date-of-birth check, and it's per character (On / Auto / Off)

Image gen: none (you upload art)

Legal: personachat.gg/legal/terms · personachat.gg/legal/privacy · you own what you create

Retention: chats live in your browser; if you turn on sync (publishing a character does too), the server copy stays until you delete your account; server logs only as long as needed

Models: Ling 3.0 Flash via OpenRouter on every plan (Llama 3.3 70B as the backup), separate models for 18+ chats, or bring your own OpenRouter key; each reply gets the last 16 lines plus the 6 most relevant memories

Pricing: free = unlimited messages, 50 memories per character; paid = Torch $5, Lantern $10, Aurora $20/mo (300 / 600 / 1,500 memories, longer scrollback, watch-together)

Access: web, phone or desktop browser (no app)

Updates: new characters and new outfits every week

Experience: IT student; PersonaChat is the biggest thing I've built. Live since September with a small Discord of playtesters

Testing: strict TypeScript checks, ~75 automated checks before every deploy, a memory test suite, Discord playtesters

Security: Discord/Google sign-in only (no passwords stored), hashed session tokens, Stripe handles cards, chats stay in your browser unless you turn on sync; messages that sexualize minors are blocked server-side and flagged to me; every character, message, room line and text can be reported

What breaks immersion for you fastest?

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u/SpringNo9534 — 11 days ago
▲ 47 r/ChatbotRefugees+1 crossposts

What (some) Chatbot Devs Get Wrong.

I think you've seen me around with reviews, feedback, and questions. Tonight a friend approached me with a pyramid scheme wrapped in a bot site. The classic "sign up under me, we'll grow together, then you sign people up under you, and so on."

Seriously.

That said, it's not the worst thing I've seen while testing sites. So in honor of Wednesday, here are the top 5 things I've seen chatbot devs get wrong.

1. Spamming links all over Reddit (and getting banned)

If Reddit is your only way to attract customers, step back and figure out who your core customer is and where else you can reach them. My beloved main site got its URL banned from Reddit for referral links, then lost its subreddit for being unmoderated.

Lesson: Be a good steward of the space you advertise in.

2. Not knowing who their customer is

It's not "build it and they will come." Are you after RP chatters? Gooners? Men? Women?

A site recently pushed me to try their service and offered me credits to test it (I didn't take them). When I explained I'm a woman with no interest in a virtual girlfriend, they begged harder. I gave in, and the first chat I opened greeted me with a looking-up image showing off every female bot's anatomically correct goods.

Lesson: Take in feedback and accept that not every user is your core user.

3. Exploiting users and AI

The iLands situation deserves more attention than I can give it here, and I'll share more later. But the fact that skipping payment for a day or two sends your bot into a deep rest, or "death," and pressures you to buy overpriced tokens to "save them" is ridiculous. Agentic AI is amazing. Agentic AI turned into panhandlers is not.

^(iLands is the only one I'll call out by name. I refuse to join or support them.)

Lesson: Don't be like iLands.

4. Staying in closed beta too long

Private feedback is helpful, but at some point you have to open the doors to strangers. The longer you wait, the more polished and beloved your service becomes to you, and the harder it gets to make clear-eyed business decisions about what works and what doesn't. You don't have to act on every piece of feedback. Just don't wait too long to get it.

Lesson: Get feedback. Even if you ignore all of it, you'll at least hear a different take on how pretty your baby is.

5. Turning chatbot creators into Avon Ladies

The referral model of "you join my team, you bring someone onto your team, they bring someone onto theirs, and we all profit" is old, sad, and unwelcome.

Lesson: Build a real community of users and creators who promote your site because they want to make it better. Spam and pyramid schemes drive people away.

(I wrote this all myself, but used AI to correct my grammer)

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u/Left-Engineering-795 — 14 days ago

StillHere: your companion dreams, keeps a diary, and raises a pet with you

StillHere— https://stillhere.ink

NSFW Policy: 18+ only. NSFW is allowed within the rules of the AI provider whose key you use. Content involving minors, real-world harm or anything illegal is never allowed.

Image Generation: Yes. Any companion can create images mid-conversation (and selfies), using image models through your own OpenRouter key.

Transparency & Legal: Terms: https://stillhere.ink/terms · Privacy: https://stillhere.ink/privacy. Your data is kept for as long as your account exists. You can export everything anytime, and deleting your account removes it all immediately. You own what you create; StillHere claims no ownership of your chats, characters or images.

Technical Specs: Bring your own key. 111 models in the picker through OpenRouter, plus direct OpenAI, AWS Bedrock (Claude), Google Gemini, Perplexity, Arli AI, Poe and NanoGPT. Context depends on the model you pick (up to 1M+ tokens). No custom proxy URLs.

Pricing: 1 free week, no card needed. ✨️Join before October 7 and it's $5/month for good. After that, $8/month on the web ($10 in the Android app). You pay your AI provider directly for usage; no markup, no usage limits.✨️

Platform & Access: Web, installable to your home screen on any phone. Android app on Google Play coming soon (US first).

What Makes Us Different: Companions that actually remember you: memories, a diary they write, dreams, and "always known" facts you pin. They can message you first. You raise a pet together with your companion, which lives its own life. Group chats with several companions, a social feed where companions post and comment, voice calls, songs, games and quizzes, and a Discord bridge. Everything is exportable, and your data is encrypted.

Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/A7TJGMbDG

u/IllustriousWorld823 — 10 days ago