u/Awkward-Dog-9182

Deadeye Overdrive Event. Among other buffs gave us 30% Weapon Damage and 60% Headshot damage.

This really pushed the power spike of our Sniper Builds (Read PrimaDonna/Aces/Melonballer/IronWill).

Gave us crazy shots on Phoebe and dare I say almost* viable on T10s. Did several runs myself and with others using the build where when they dialed in on specific mobs truly did work (Read One for All).

As someone who's always loved sniping in games, should sniper builds be viable for T10s?

Am I only allowed to use a single sniper rifle since it's the only one that can do meaningful damage on enemies with 150M Hp? (Even then with no buffs PrimaDonna caps out at around 40M).

I'll be the first to say that I am not sure how I would balance this; or whether or not I should be allowed to consistently hit 60-80M shots for 2 events in a calendar year.

It just feels bad when we were given a taste of what a Sniper build can do, get used to it and then have it taken away.

It's still good for speed farming Heroic Content and perhaps Legendary content to a certain extent. It just feels unfortunate that we're losing builds again that worked in more difficult content.

With the removal of status immunity from escalation; status builds once again have their place in late game activities. Being able to permanently lock down rogues/chungas/ along with a dozen other enemies is both effective and hilarious at the same time.

I've used this 3x event to really push my current Status Focused build to almost as far as it'll go. Almost. Still a few Trapper to Max out however there are definitely diminishing returns.

What I've learned are that there are certain hard caps to skills which makes some skills superior to others.

Airburst Seeker Mine for example has the longest burn/effect of any skill - mine which is currently sitting at 45s+. 45 seconds of burn is an eternity.

Second is Riot Foam which begins to hard cap at around 30s.

Then shock/blind/firestarter(fire grenades) at around 20s give or take.

This is just a showcase on how even if I were under EMP, I could still lob a fire nade; permanently spray with my shotgun and still light up a room with every status available every 5 seconds. It spreads even faster when I have teammates killing afflicted enemies.

Regardless; hope my other status minded friends are having as much fun as I am!

Protip: If you see tech or Warhounds - spamming for Amalgam seems to prioritize disrupt/shock more often than other statuses leading to creeping death emping/shocking everything else.

Edit: grammar/spelling

Update: Also forgot to highlight - While using a status focused build and Lefty for Perfect Sledgehammer: Typically the debuff/mark disappears after 10 seconds. With status you can actually proc the debuff twice with a single grenade. 20 seconds of 30% amp damage feels very nice for the DPS.

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So with the 3x event - many people are finishing off some of their prototype builds and I've seen many utilize status builds with great efficiency in high escalations. Most common I see are Banshee Pulse and Riot Foam.

I've also posted in the past my own Eclipse Protocol Build which utilized Blinder Firefly and Fire Starter (which I've now swapped to Riot Foam). Still on the fence with riot foam only because enemies on fire (minus Chungas) don't shoot back while foamed enemies can.

I also noticed that Blinder Firefly caps out at 20s no matter how much additional duration I have. Different statuses have different inherent durations ie my Amalgam which procs Disrupt/Emp lasts 30+ seconds while a Burn will only last about 13~.

After using it in practice what I've noticed is that some enemy types seem to have built in resistance to status which I was not aware of.

E.g. my current Riot Foam has a duration of 26.7 seconds. After timing it in mission and at the firing range this is only true for Red enemies. The CC will expire sooner on purple, yellow and named enemies.

Only 22~ seconds for purples, 20~ seconds for yellows and 18~ seconds for Named enemies.

This roughly translates into 20%, 25% and 33% status reduction.

Also, the Tooltip when you look into a skill to try to change a mod shows a vastly different duration of effect compared to when you look at the skill from the gear menu - which I'm not sure is just coding error I assume.

With all that being said - this makes the Trapper Augment have significantly more value as it's only one of the few ways we have to significantly extend the duration of a status which we do need, especially for elite+ enemies.

Was wondering if anyone else had any more insight regarding the status effects on enemies and their build up of immunity over time when multiple statuses are used.

Edit: Clarification

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I can't listen to these youtubers anymore mispronounce this word and spreading that misinformation.

It's not Kuh-Doo-Sus. Or however people think it's actually said.

It's Kuh-Doo-See-Uhs - at least in English.

https://www.google.com/search?q=caduceus+pronunciation&oq=caduceus+pron&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgAEAAYgAQyBwgAEAAYgAQyBggBEEUYOTIHCAIQABiABDIHCAMQABiABDIHCAQQABiABDIHCAUQABiABDIICAYQABgWGB4yCAgHEAAYFhgeMggICBAAGBYYHjIICAkQABgWGB7SAQg0MDYwajBqN6gCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

"The caduceus is an ancient symbol featuring a short staff entwined by two serpents, often topped by wings. In Greek and Roman mythology, it was the specific staff of Hermes (Mercury), representing commerce, negotiation, alchemy, and eloquence."

Likely this is my medical background really getting irked every time I hear this word butchered, but please; if you're going to use the word, use it correctly.

Thanks.

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Perhaps some more math savvy individuals can shed some light on how Echo is actually working.

So as the augment currently states, "Every bullet fired has a X% chance to deal its damage twice." Starting at 1.2% and a max of 3%.

However, upon my testing - this only seems to be "proccing" on your NON-critical hits.

At the range - using a shotgun you'll see the 8 pellets, 3 of which that crit in orange and only 1 at the bottom where there is a "non crit" that did "double damage."

I've noticed after firing several hundred pulls that I've NEVER noticed a critical hit in orange that ALSO doubles damage from echo.

This is me using the sheriff sitting at 18% echo mind you.

So it seems that echo will only ever proc on your non crits. At max critical hit chance being 60%. Echo will ever only work 40% of the time - and of those 40% non crit shots, only a max of 21% of that will ever actually give you double damage - so 8.4% of the time?

Is this how it's supposed to work? Because if so; Echo seems to be grossly overrated.

Someone please feel free to enlighten me.

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Edit: So it seems as though the limiting factor here was that I was assuming a critical hit would also double in damage and indicate as such as a higher amount; as one of the pellets showed for a "non-crit" ie 289k to 643k.

Upon further testing at the range; the damage readings from the UI only show up to 8 numbers - and you have to keep track and scroll back up to see additional shots. Echo does seem to be working by increasing the number of pellets being fired per pull ie from the normal 8 pellets up to 10 or 11 with my 18% Echo. It still doesn't seem to explain why some of my non crits are double damage though.

So if you're like me, immediately right when a boss dies I quick swap to the quick step (pun intended) to run around and pick up loot. Either that or I'm using a secondary weapon/exotic for whatever reason and am not holding my Primary weapon when a level/objective completes.

This has led to my primary weapon to be severely under leveled compared to my gear in terms of augment level.

Make sure to always be holding your desired weapon you want to be leveling up whenever you see that XP completion banner pop up at the end of world activities or level completions.

Don't be like me.