Image 1 — The MensRights subreddit censored our Petition against a feminist manhating game (While hypocritically harbouring libertarians who oppose censoring feminists)
Image 2 — The MensRights subreddit censored our Petition against a feminist manhating game (While hypocritically harbouring libertarians who oppose censoring feminists)
Image 3 — The MensRights subreddit censored our Petition against a feminist manhating game (While hypocritically harbouring libertarians who oppose censoring feminists)
Image 4 — The MensRights subreddit censored our Petition against a feminist manhating game (While hypocritically harbouring libertarians who oppose censoring feminists)
Image 5 — The MensRights subreddit censored our Petition against a feminist manhating game (While hypocritically harbouring libertarians who oppose censoring feminists)
Image 6 — The MensRights subreddit censored our Petition against a feminist manhating game (While hypocritically harbouring libertarians who oppose censoring feminists)
Image 7 — The MensRights subreddit censored our Petition against a feminist manhating game (While hypocritically harbouring libertarians who oppose censoring feminists)
Image 8 — The MensRights subreddit censored our Petition against a feminist manhating game (While hypocritically harbouring libertarians who oppose censoring feminists)
Image 9 — The MensRights subreddit censored our Petition against a feminist manhating game (While hypocritically harbouring libertarians who oppose censoring feminists)
Image 10 — The MensRights subreddit censored our Petition against a feminist manhating game (While hypocritically harbouring libertarians who oppose censoring feminists)
Image 11 — The MensRights subreddit censored our Petition against a feminist manhating game (While hypocritically harbouring libertarians who oppose censoring feminists)
Image 12 — The MensRights subreddit censored our Petition against a feminist manhating game (While hypocritically harbouring libertarians who oppose censoring feminists)
Image 13 — The MensRights subreddit censored our Petition against a feminist manhating game (While hypocritically harbouring libertarians who oppose censoring feminists)
Image 14 — The MensRights subreddit censored our Petition against a feminist manhating game (While hypocritically harbouring libertarians who oppose censoring feminists)

The MensRights subreddit censored our Petition against a feminist manhating game (While hypocritically harbouring libertarians who oppose censoring feminists)

r MensRights are a controlled opposition sub. Just see how they remove our petition against a feminist's game on Steam called "Femme Fatality", a game that idealizes murdering men.

https://www.change.org/p/calling-on-visa-to-deny-femme-fatality-payment-processing

While a few good commenters also wanted the feminist game banned are barely got any upvotes, many passive lay-downs objected to the petition and sadly got many upvotes. The lay-downs just raise their dead-end thought terminating clichés and other reasons not to care. Here are my counter-replies.

like "Don't use censorship, let the game come out and flop"

So first: feminists make flop after flop after flop, and they still keep on making them, and they still keep on dominating the games and entertainment industry. If they get away with this, it will just embolden them. They don't care about making money. They just want to spew their hateful message, period.

or "Don't use payment processors as censorship, we're fucking with the fundamentals of our economic system"

So secondly: feminists have already fucked up the economic system with their payment processor cancellations ordered by Collective Shout. So what you want us to do is just take the abuse, let them censor us and ban our games, then let them practice hate speech against us, and then we don't retaliate.

Paradoxically the best chance you've got to end this payment process abuse is to use it against the feminists, and then you can go "look, if you don't use it against us, we won't use it against you." That's your best chance, but you're not even prepared to do that.

or "I care more about free speech than trying to ban some stupid video game. Let them play it. Banning stuff because you're offended is part of the feminist playbook, not ours."

So thirdly: The thread got censored and removed. Why aren't you going to the mods of MensRights and complaining about their censorship, you hypocritical cretins? Clearly none of you care about the censorship against us.

or "When your enemy is making a mistake, do not interrupt!"

So forth: Our enemies aren't making a mistake. Nothing will backfire on them. Notice they've been "making this mistake" of spreading manhate for 60 years now, when Valerie Solanas wrote the SCUM manifesto in the 1960s, and got praised by all the most important feminists of the time, and they're still not facing repercussions yet. Thinking they're making a mistake that will backfire any day now, that's just stupid cope and MGTOW-type passivism.

You guys even have the "misandry bubble", a blog post made in 2011 by a right-wing libertarian, who said misandry is a bubble that would burst by 2014 and everything would self-correct. This clearly hasn't happened has it? It clearly won't happen. Misandry is worse than ever now.

or "Looks like shovelware. Not worth the time"

So fifth: this is just arguing the quality of the game, which is beside the point you muppet. So if this misandrist game was a high-quality polished AAA game, would it be different then? What point are you even making?

There was a low-quality shovel ware game on Stream greenlight in 2015, where you had to kill gays and transpeople, and that got swiftly removed by Valve. That got taken seriously. Are we not allowed to take misandry from shovelware seriously?

"I got into mens rights through gamer gate. I was in game design school at the time. I don't like the idea to shut down games because of "what is represents". I didn't like it back when feminists tried to do it and I don't like it now..."

Yeah okay. So you're just a loser then, and GamerGate is a failed movement that achieved nothing.

"We don't even know what the message of this game is, only the premise,"

The message is obvious from the store page, it's about killing men.

"Killing men is VERY common in videogames. And in other media like films as well."

Well you realize there's levels to this, right? We're talking about censoring a game that is hate propaganda targeted against men, not just any violent action game where men die.

"It would be better to wait for the demo to come out, collect clear instances of blatant hate speech, and then present them."

Okay, so you wait for the hate crime to happen, which is fail. You pre-emptively tackle the hate crime instead.

Also the problem with this sort of hate speech is it's hidden behind sarcasm and irony, so the hateful message gets through while shielded with plausible deniability.

"I literally could not care less. I don't have to be a whiny snowflake to believe in men's rights. If people want to make dumb games let them. You literally sound just like the feminists."

Anyone who pulls "you're just like the feminists" end up behaving like feminists themselves, the argument is pure projection. He's ironically acting like a whiny snowflake against our petition to censor a feminist hate propaganda game. Enough said here.

"There needs to be some pushback, a change dot org petition is not the way though. Better pester Valve directly..."

Are you dense? You use the petition to galvanize people AND pester Valve. It's not an either/or case here. You're so weird, shooting down every little tactic. This is why men's rights gets nowhere.

"Just forget about it, there's a billion trash Steam games that receive no attention and this will be one of them if nobody panics. Also not gonna lie but there are a bunch of low quality games about just killing women, have been for years."

This is just a lie. The idea that there's a flood of games about killing women is completely made up.

"Let some traumatised hoe make her revenge fantasy game. It's not going to radicalise anyone and anyone who buys and plays it already hates men anyway."

Their hatred shouldn't be validated on the market you nitwit, and you're a delusional misandrist yourself.

These are not "hoes who have been traumatised", women don't get traumatised into hatred, no men damaged these women. "Who damaged these women" is such a misandrist trope. You're an unthinking muppet if you assume it's real. Feminist manhaters don't need to be damaged or hurt by men, they are just narcissistic bullies.

Also I guess we should give up on anti-racist laws by your logic then, since "anyone who attends a Nazi rally already hates brown immigrants anyway." The point of such laws isn't to change the minds of Nazis so they're no longer racist, they're to suppress them and deny them freedom to do harm to other. We are applying the same principle here against feminsts.

I'm done explaining myself here. You have dumb and hopeless libertarians and GamerGaters running the men's rights space. Not only do they not want to take action, they want to cockblock others who talk about action as well.

They don't want to run any economic or censorship costs on feminists, which not only would be deserved on them, it would be true honest activism. They just block any desire for real activism for the sake of their worthless and abstract free market, free speech, artistic freedom absolutist principles, which have not protected men's rights at all and have delivered nothing.

Their poisonous mindset holds men's rights back and is why feminist censorship and hate of men is allowed to unchecked and get worse every year.

And to top it all off, their space censors us, so they're hypocrites.

u/Axleonder — 2 days ago
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The Feminist War on Male Fantasy and Male Heterosexuality

The current feminist smear job on the New Stellar Blade game is not a recent trend, but a long term one. There was a fake controversy over another recent game called Pragmata, because that game featured a girl droid you protect and the game was basically a dad simulator. (And I don’t think it’s a coincidence that feminists are into father alienation and are also attacking fictional father/daughter relationships.)

There’s a long term feminist attack on men and their fantasy lives. They’re attacking men’s sexuality, and also attacking men outside of their sexuality. Men are not even allowed to fantasise about father/daughter affection now. The manhaters are such control freaks.

There is a long term pattern of attacks on male fandoms. If feminists can’t infiltrate them from within and trash them, like they did with Star Wars and Doctor Who, they will rage out and incite violence on them, like what feminists did against a game called Sense: A Cyberpunk Ghost Story. (See images 2, 3 and 4)

Also feminists love pedo-smearing men for their natural sexuality. One of the screencaps I have included in this post shows feminists shaming a man and calling him a sex offender over a picture of two adult women wrestling. That picture has zero links to paedophilia in any sense of the word, it is just a random non-sequitur smear. (See image 5)

Feminists have been going after stuff men enjoy for years now. Here I will drop a few links as examples:

https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/10/20/australia-bans-import-of-hentai-and-other-adult-anime-products-from-japan/

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2021/01/top_hat_studios_issues_statement_regarding_demands_to_censor_sense_-_a_cyberpunk_ghost_story

(Also notice how Australian Customs bans hentai and anime figurines by classifying them as "illegal porn" next to child porn and bestiality. This is another example of the feminist state smearing a genre of male sexual fantasy products with the tangent of real sexual crimes.) (See images 6 and 7)

This old subreddit was keeping track of feminist censorship as well:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Feminist_Censorship/

Men need their own safe spaces where they can appreciate the female form without any judgement or stigma. Men do not deserve to be disparaged, stigmatised, dehumanised, hassled, stalked or bullied just because of their natural attraction to adult women. This is why the subreddit r/people_drawing_women was created, as this is a space for us men, we have a right to it. We have a right to be ourselves without being abused. If we do not put up strong boundaries then we will have all our stuff taken away from us.

PS: The last screencap shows that artists are scared to draw sexy women, this proves the chilling effect works on men. (See image 8)

https://www.reddit.com/r/Feminist_Censorship/comments/uatzzd/this_male_artist_admits_he_is_scared_of_drawing/

u/Axleonder — 8 days ago

The PMC Are Against Aaron Clarey — This Old Video Shows Why

Aaron Clarey is a belligerent PUA scammer who in 2015 most likely doxed two intelligent MGTOWs, Barbarossa and Stardusk, and was openly stereotyping MGTOWs as "misogynist, ugly, basement dwelling teens".

He was posting challenges to MGTOWs to reveal their faces from his blog to prove they're not stereotypically ugly, resentful virgins who he was attacking, so basically a doxing challenge that men should avoid.

The doxing posts brought up Barbarossa's past belief in conspiracy theory as a teen, something he later evolved out of. The posts were designed to humulate him and besmirch his reputation, and this is what men risk from doxing.

MGTOW was a failed and flawed movement for men, and both Barbar and Starduck regressed in their behaviour later on, but these are separate matters. I do not defend MGTOW, I just point out the hostility from Aaron Clarey.

Clarey is part of the manosphere and is part of why the PMC does not identify with them.

I notice we get newer guys coming into our group to recommend Aaron Clarey and his books. They may not know what a bad actor Clarey is, so it seems older members here have to periodically re-educate people.

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u/Axleonder — 9 days ago

Harley Quinn Show Proves Misandry Has Been in the Mainstream for Years

The Harley Quinn TV Show is 7 years old, this reply video is old now too. So a show that openly demeans teenage boys, calls men "misogynists" without provocation, and justifies girlbosses breaking men's arms, has been in the cultural zeitgeist for years now.

This was from 2019, around the time of that Captain Marvel movie scene as well, where she crushed a man's hand and stole his bike just for flirting with her.

The culture has long given way to open manhate from feminists. We're not simply "losing" the culture war, we have already lost it completely.

What we need now is the Pro Male Collective to grow its own culture, hopefully grow it larger than mainstream culture, overtake it, and send it back into the dustbin of history.

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u/Axleonder — 12 days ago

Women are not oppressed under capitalism, they're in control (reply video to TheFinnishBolshevik)

The video is 3 hours of the PMC gang picking apart a feminist Marxist's lies.

Marxist fiction: Women are part of the oppressed proletariat under capitalism, a few rich bourgeoisie and elite men rule everything.

Reality: Men are the oppressed proletariat under capitalism, women are the privileged bourgeoisie and elite that rule society.

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u/Axleonder — 13 days ago

Feminism is a genocidal colonial force (This spoofs a video about western liberalism)

When you hear Liberals gaslight and justify western military actions to genocide and exploit people on the other side of the planet, they are nearly identical to how feminists gaslight and justify doing the same thing.

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u/Axleonder — 17 days ago

This leftist's video deconstructs protest marches — it has me thinking about pro-male activism

The video makes a solid point, people in general are ignorant of what a protest is, they think they’re “protesting” as long as they appear with other people while shouting and holding signs.

What you end up with is protest marches that do nothing because they put no pressure or punishment on the systems they are trying to change or overthrow, they’re totally meek and ineffective, they’re made up of people who just want to perform and show off and imagine change will happen because of it.

And the moment these marches do try to punish the system, the system just sends the police to crack their heads and mass arrest them, and break up their whole demonstration—just watch the video explain the 1999 Seattle WTO protests and the Occupy movement for examples—so for this reason the conventional protest march is an obsolete mode of activism.

All of this reminds me of a certain former Pro Male Collective member who kept telling us to go out and protest on the streets, or else our movement is doomed to failure. This member has a background of attending intactivist street marches and recording the affair, which pretty much showed that they are a meek clown show, and par for invactivism’s record of getting zero change done to stop the legal circumcision of baby boys.

There’s a trepidation among men who hear about the need to attend a real life protest, which is understandable, because marches today are contained and controlled clown shows that just invite mockery, otherwise they are already made illegal and get the men destroyed. So we’re just meant to have faith and partake in one and expect a desired outcome. We’re not critically analysing the conditions and risks when we do this.

All of this raises an important question to think on: if we are to have a pro-male protest, what precise form should it take? The peaceful gathering doesn’t really work, but also switching to violence is a very bad idea that just leads to us getting crushed. For the correct way to punish a misandrist system for abusing the male population until it capitulates to us, it will likely take creative and forward thinking minds to come up with answers.

Addendum: The guy is obviously a feminist leftist, he concerns for women's march in his video, so I do not strictly endorse him. His analytical take on protest marches is interesting none the less.

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u/Axleonder — 18 days ago

The Laws of Male Status Seeking and Group Dynamics

This page is a list of the laws of male status seeking and group dynamics.

Not all social groups are about status seeking. Many groups are just spaces for people to have nothing more than casual social interaction, often with these spaces being based around a singular hobby. But a lot of the time these groups will eventually change purpose and become about attaining status for many of those who join. It's good to note that these laws are generalizations, and they don't always apply to all groups. But a large number of these laws will always apply to any male group. Here are the laws:

The Laws of male status seeking and group dynamics

1. Many men only join groups to personally benefit from them.

This can just be as simple as wanting to socialise, but most of the time men join groups to network and gain status.

2. Many groups will only allow men in if they are perceived to of be of any value to the group.

Many groups will seek to filter out low status men. Groups tends to be more welcoming to female newcomers than males.

3. Many men will seek to put the minimal effort in, to remain within the group they are part of.

Quite often many men will just join a group and do nothing to contribute to it.

4. Men generally only tend to carry on associating with groups if they perceive any benefit from doing so.

Any past benefit from the group they are a part of will not guarantee future loyalty. Not all men are users, but a lot of men are, and many groups are maintained off the backs of a minority of pro social, unselfish people.

5. Low status males in a group are at the highest risk of getting discarded if they are perceived to be of low utility to the group or the person in charge of the group.

6. Males who violate the group consensus are more likely to be cast out than females who do so.

Many groups will value the group consensus over ethics or the truth.

7. Groups are more likely to accede to the demand of women than men.

Quite often it can only take just one sole female demanding stuff for the group to roll over and change their rules.

8. The lowest status male members of the group are often given the hardest and most unrewarding work.

9. Higher status social circles tend to attract more females, thus will attract higher status men.

Lower status groups attract less females, and tend to attract desperate low status men.

10. As a group gains status, it is more likely to turn on the low status male members, and create threat narratives against them.

These often come in the form of harassment policies and white knights enforcing social norms that the women who join demand. This is the process of female colonisation of male spaces. Male only spaces tend to only be low status for the most part.

11. Low status men who join low status groups, tend to often bail on them if they are able to gain status.

12. Many low status groups are either cults or marketing scams, so the people running the group can con and exploit desperate low status men.

See pick-up-artists or Jordan Peterson as examples.

13. Niche hobbies that are seen as low status, can become higher status if they become trendy. See what has happened to geek culture in general, those spaces are now mainstream, and colonised by females.

Those spaces are prominent enough to attract high status men and females seeking a profit.

14. Many groups have lieutenant positions, often given to those who pander to the leader.

By pandering, they become high value to the leader. A good example of this is big YouTube channel Discord servers. The lieutenant moderator/admin positions are often given to men who donate via Patreon. The leaders of big groups can be seen as high value people by both men and women. Maybe lower status men are willing to pander to higher status men, as long as they perceive they are gaining status from it. Of course this perception can be false, having a lieutenant position in a group rarely of any value.

15. Many volunteer community spaces have a high number of women, and are often run by them, simply because men in relationships work more than women in relationships, and so these spaces are used by middle aged women to socialise and network.

16. Women tend to value socialising with their own sex, more than men value socialising with their own sex. Thus many groups tend to be female centric.

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u/Axleonder — 20 days ago

People Are Against Furries for Being Men

Furry hate is repackaged misandry. Asmongold's community embodies this unapologetic furry hate, and his audience doesn't even hide what's on their mind:

"The fact that all furries in that video were men", "Shit, that's the worst part.", "That's why the fandom is 50 shades of gay."

I've seen this sentiment everywhere, when belligerent men rail against furry conventions and their fursuits, their #1 issue is "they're all men", their #2 issue is "they're all gay". So It's men just existing and being fruity that grinds their gears.

They also directly wish violence on these men. Even in Asmongold's audience, that's why many of them invoke Warhammer 40k's Imperium of Man to purge them. That's why you often see them stating "no Russian" (A Call of Duty line from a mass shooting mission).

I've had Mister Pink And Yellow tell me this himself: this cultural persecution of furries would completely evaporate if furries were an all-female group. In fact if "furries" were a women-exclusive group of playboy bunnies, all these men against furries would do a 180 and be begging to date and interact with these "furries".

In the end, the furry hate is just raw unfiltered male-on-male hostility.

u/Axleonder — 22 days ago

Asmongold Smears the Fandom of Stellar Blade, Right-Wing Men Act Shocked

Asmongold watched Stellar Blade’s new female protagonist and said “why does she look 12?”. This is not him changing and “turning woke”. Here are some quotes from his past for reference:

January 2024: “So in Oklahoma they want to make a law, if you’re a furry in school, they’ll call animal control and have you removed by animal control, I think this is a great idea. I do, I’m completely in support of it… …‘If you’re got an animal coming to school, how about we get them vaccinated? How about we get them neutered? How about we send them to the pound? And that’s what this bill is going to be about.’ That’s right bro, if you’re a furry, they’re going to cut off your dick."

October 2024: “I’m not going to cry a fucking river when (Palestinians) who have genocide that’s baked into their laws are getting genocided. I don’t give a fuck. They’re terrible people… …it is an inferior culture in all ways. It is that simple. No, I don’t feel bad for them, I don’t feel sorry for them, I don’t care. I don’t support them.”

Asmongold was always like this, a malicious smearer and malcontent who says false things to knock down others when he finds opportunity. Right-wing nerds who are fans of Stellar Blade are now being targeted by him, and they can't accept what is happening.

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u/Axleonder — 25 days ago