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ID / Information Help: Is this an Armand Marseille Mold 164? (Photos included)

ID / Information Help: Is this an Armand Marseille Mold 164? (Photos included)

Hi everyone,

I am looking for some insight into an antique doll I have. The facial features and markings on the back of the head appear to suggest Armand Marseille 164 (or AM 164), but I am having trouble finding solid information on this specific mold number for Armand Marseille.

Here are the details:

  • Height: 28 1/2"
  • Head Material: Bisque porcelain
  • Body Type: Composition jointed body
  • Eyes: Glass sleep eyes
  • Mouth: Open mouth with teeth

I’ve attached three photos. Two showing the face of the doll and another of a close-up showing the markings on the back of her neck.

Does anyone know if AM actually made a 164 mold, or am I potentially misreading the numbers? Could it be a Kestner or another German maker instead? Any history, rarity insights, or confirmation on the maker would be incredibly appreciated!

Thank you so much for your help!

https://preview.redd.it/hj0w8i54d42h1.jpg?width=4284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=21d8028f0ef4fb7b7b9e1c1aeb98accc87034479

https://preview.redd.it/1r1mki54d42h1.jpg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9b20d7b88ebf4e67b76390701d2b399a4a011ae6

https://preview.redd.it/oulvki54d42h1.jpg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1282cde3c5596ce396c749ffc30d774266e714cb

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u/B-humble-47 — 4 days ago