u/Big_Chair1

I thought it was kinda sad that Summoner didn't get any major buffs in Impossible Magic, so I tried my hand at it.

Made this for a Pathfinder 2e campaign in book 3 (Hillcross battle) and thought I'd share in case anyone needs something like this.

This is in book 3 of Quest for the Frozen Flame, don't read if you're a player in this campaign. Important context: this is 1 out of 3 fights that happen back to back.

What I'm concerned about is, if this is is *supposed* to be a severe fight, it doesn't feel like it *will* be one.

Let's look at it in rounds:

1. Stride 3 times (90 ft) -> get attacked freely

2. Another stride, then Leap (+ take ~30 damage), start Climb

3. Potentially 3 times Climb (if no crit success) while being off guard the whole time

4. Finally arrive at the top and take out weapon, another 2 actions to actually attack

It feels like this combat will be a joke? There won't be anything left of the giants by the time they arrive at the PCs.

The main problem seems to be the climb interaction, with each action moving up only 5 feet, where the book says they need to "only" climb 20 feet. The palisade is 30 ft tall, a giant is 15ft. With a leap towards the wall, how do they still have 20 ft left?

I'll put the DC at 20 (expert) which seems appropriate for climbing a wooden palisade. Their athletics is +21, so has potential for crit success once or twice.

Should I just make it so they only need to climb 15 feet? Worst case they still need 3 actions, in a lucky case they need less and it still feels threatening.

Maybe the book also wanted to make it easier since they have 2 other moderate fights to go through? But it just seems like it will feel underwhelming for the players, who enjoy the tactical combat.

Edit: Thank you for the advice everyone! I think I'll just reduce how much they have to climb by a little.