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How Were We Duped?

I read it somewhere. Apparently, a jury decides within the first five minutes not who they believe, but who they want to believe. We’ve grown up over the last thirty years wanting to believe in Johnny Depp.

We always knew he had issues with anger, alcohol and drugs, but he was Hollywood’s rebellious, fragile and talented child. We excused every one of his actions. He was always special. We never felt this much empathy for other actors of his generation. We spoiled him so much that, in the end, we created a spoilt man who took no responsibility for anything and to whom no one ever said no.

There were times whilst following the case when I had my doubts. The audio recordings and witnesses confirmed that Amber had been subjected to violence. There were people who had seen her bruises. In fact, it seemed so certain that the kicking incident on the Boston flight had been proven by the audio recordings and messages. But there was such a strong consensus on social media that I thought, ‘I must be wrong.’ I was actually glad to be wrong. Because he’d been my favourite actor for thirty years, and I’d invested so much emotionally in this man.

I loved him most of all because he was funny. I always think that people who make me laugh are good people. You know, if a man is charming and funny, we women are easily won over.

Depp’s legal team, just like him, were very manipulative and aggressive. They planted seeds of doubt in our minds.

Why didn’t Amber leave the man who abused her?

If she was abused, why did she marry Johnny?

Why did she give her husband a knife as a gift?

Why did she make audio recordings and film videos?

Why did she meet her husband in a hotel room after the restraining order was issued?

Why did she beg Johnny to make up with her, to hug her and look her in the eyes?

Why did she send Carino (addressing Depp) affectionate messages for two years after the divorce?

Why didn’t she obtain a medical report for her injuries?

All of these were convincing arguments for us

Because most of us are unaware of toxic relationships. A woman can fall in love with a man who abuses her. Because in the early days, everything is wonderful. These men can be extremely manipulative. After acts of violence, they become the sweetest man in the world. They apologise and convince you. You feel guilty and apologise. Then you experience violence again, feel guilty and are manipulated. You get trapped in a cycle of love, hate, violence and passion.

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u/Big_Release_8300 — 3 days ago

Who Threw the First Stone?

As far as I know, Depp and Heard reached an agreement following the restraining order. A joint statement was issued and they signed a non-disclosure agreement, deciding not to speak about their relationship.

So, which party breached the non-disclosure agreement?

On 27 April 2018, The Sun newspaper reported that JD was the man who had beaten his wife.

On 1 June 2018, Depp filed a lawsuit against The Sun.

On 2 October 2018, JD gave an interview to GQ magazine. He made statements openly accusing Heard.

On 3 October 2018, Heard responded to the GQ interview. She stated that the non-disclosure agreement between them had been breached. She explained that under this agreement, the parties were prohibited from speaking about the relationship and claimed that she was not being allowed to move on with her life. The statement said that Heard wanted to put this painful chapter of her life behind her, yet Depp continued to harass her.

On 18 December 2018, Heard wrote the Washington Post article that became the subject of the lawsuit.

On 1 March 2019, JD filed a defamation lawsuit against Amber over the Washington Post article.

My question is this: had the matter been completely closed until The Sun’s report? Had Heard spoken about Johnny before this?

Was Amber obliged to give evidence for The Sun?

When was it decided that she would give evidence?

Did she have the option of refusing to give evidence due to the confidentiality agreement?

On 2 October 2018, during the GQ interview, did Johnny know that Amber was going to give evidence for The Sun?

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u/Big_Release_8300 — 6 days ago

Toxic relationships

I’ve been a Depp fan since the 90s. I was practically a child when he was in a relationship with Winona, but I remember every detail. As young girls back then, we were really quite naive. Depp had dark eyes, thick hair and a mesmerising gaze. We didn’t realise just how abusive and wrong his relationship with Winona was. Winona was a child star with a bright future ahead of her. She was 17 and a virgin. Depp, on the other hand, was a man who’d been married and divorced, played music in bars, got into fights, been arrested, had a history of violence and drug abuse, and was a rebellious adult. Even back then, we could see that Depp was actually a complete love scoundrel. (Forever Winona)

Depp ended the relationship and set sail for a new romance with Kate Moss. Winona suffered from severe depression, underwent treatment in a clinic, and her career took a serious hit. It was clear that Depp felt no sense of responsibility. He had no qualms about posing passionately with Kate. He couldn’t care less about what Winona was going through. Then he did the same to Kate Moss. After expensive gifts and a passionate love story, Johnny fell in love with Vanessa. He used to laugh as he recounted how he’d fallen in love the moment he saw Vanessa’s neck and thought his bachelor days were over. Kate Moss had said she cried for years after the break-up. Johnny, of course, felt no sense of responsibility once again.

I’d like to highlight one point. Women don’t fall into depression because of heartbreak. Women fall into a void and become depressed after a toxic relationship, when they feel deceived, used and cast aside. This is actually a form of trauma.

His relationship with Vanessa lasted a long time. I suspect it was probably because of the children. We don’t know much about this relationship because Vanessa kept quiet. However, we do know what happened afterwards. Johnny fell in love with Amber, and left Vanessa and their two children. I find the detail of Johnny marrying Amber on his island rather thought-provoking. I recall the tabloids referring to that island as ‘Vanessa Island’. Of course, Johnny didn’t care how the children’s mother felt. Because he was very angry with Vanessa. She had disobeyed him regarding the children. She had to be punished in some way.

We know what he did to Amber. My thoughts on the matter are well known. Whilst they were married, he was using Rochelle as his mistress.

After Amber, he had a relationship with a 22-year-old woman named Polina Glen. He brought her from Russia to Los Angeles. After living together for five or six months, he sent her back to her home country. It is not hard to imagine how she felt.

During the UK trial, he had a relationship with lawyer Joelle Rich. Although Joelle had no official role in the Virginia case, she was present at the hearing. The woman was married with two children at the time of the relationship. Her husband filed for divorce. The allegations of ‘homewrecking’ levelled against Amber were never made against Johnny.

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u/Big_Release_8300 — 10 days ago

Audio Recordings

Every now and then I listen to Amber and Johnny’s audio recordings. I don’t understand how people can see her as a harasser. I see a woman who is disappointed, very sad and, as a result, angry. Amber said that two days after the wedding, Johnny had cheated on her with a woman (I think her name was Rochelle). I believe this to be true. Johnny admitted in the UK court case that he’d met this woman. But he said the messages didn’t reveal anything about a relationship. (That’s utter nonsense.) The marriage took a massive blow right from the start. I’d like to ask the women who say Amber is angry: if you were in her shoes, could you have maintained a peaceful marriage?

Then there are the claims about her being a gold-digger. Those are even more ridiculous. A gold-digger is a sly woman. She doesn’t argue with her husband. She doesn’t try to sort out her husband’s alcohol and drug problems. She makes an effort to appear compliant and submissive. You really have to be incredibly malicious not to understand such simple things.

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u/Big_Release_8300 — 12 days ago