u/BitterComfortable776

Does anyone actually think about what source code leaves your network when using AI coding agents? Or have we all just quietly accepted it?

Earlier today while sitting in front of my screen and watching claude code work, the above questions just randomly crossed my afternoon slump potato brain...

My auth logic, my pricing engine, my half-baked unreleased refactor — just flying out of my machine with every prompt. Thousands of lines. Per session. Every day.

"it's in the ToS, they don't train on it." Sure. But since when did "they promised" become how security-conscious engineering works? I started trying to actually trace what leaves the building during a normal coding session. Not vibes. Actual payloads. It's not just the file you're editing — it's imports, references, whatever context the agent decided it needed. The number got uncomfortable fast.

Has anyone actually gone down this rabbit hole? Or have we all collectively agreed to not look too closely because we just have to beat yesterday productivity with the newest AI models?

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▲ 19 r/codex

Does anyone actually think about what source code leaves your network when using AI coding agents? Or have we all just quietly accepted it?

Earlier today while sitting in front of my screen and watching codex work, the above questions just randomly crossed my afternoon slump potato brain...

My auth logic, my pricing engine, my half-baked unreleased refactor — just flying out of my machine with every prompt. Thousands of lines. Per session. Every day.

"it's in the ToS, they don't train on it." Sure. But since when did "they promised" become how security-conscious engineering works? I started trying to actually trace what leaves the building during a normal coding session. Not vibes. Actual payloads. It's not just the file you're editing — it's imports, references, whatever context the agent decided it needed. The number got uncomfortable fast.

Has anyone actually gone down this rabbit hole? Or have we all collectively agreed to not look too closely because we just have to beat yesterday productivity with the newest AI models?

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Here's the thing I keep getting stuck on: agents are pretty good at writing local code now, but I still can't trust them with repo-wide changes. Once the change touches aliases, call sites, imports, generated-looking files, or a bunch of files at once, most of them still end up doing some version of search, patch, search again.

So I built my own set of structural refactoring tools for agents. Less "edit this blob of text," more "find the actual references, change the actual nodes, validate, snapshot, rollback if it explodes." The model doesn't get smarter — it just stops doing compiler work by hand.

In this demo, the agent uses the tools (getpando.ai if you want to look closer) to find exact references, apply a structural edit, validate the result, and snapshot before mutation. 290 files, 31 seconds.

I'm posting to look for similar large codebases, ugly cases: barrel exports, aliases, macros, generated code, weird imports, large repos, whatever. If you have a refactor where Claude or Codex typically faceplants, plz share it. I want to see if my tools can tackle it.

And if your honest reaction is "cool, still wouldn't use it" — I'd genuinely love to know why too.

u/BitterComfortable776 — 14 days ago
▲ 5 r/OpenaiCodex+2 crossposts

Here's the thing I keep getting stuck on: agents are pretty good at writing local code now, but I still can't trust them with repo-wide changes. Once the change touches aliases, call sites, imports, generated-looking files, or a bunch of files at once, most of them still end up doing some version of search, patch, search again.

So I built my own set of structural refactoring tools for agents. Less "edit this blob of text," more "find the actual references, change the actual nodes, validate, snapshot, rollback if it explodes." The model doesn't get smarter — it just stops doing compiler work by hand.

In this demo, the agent uses the tools (getpando.ai if you want to look closer) to find exact references, apply a structural edit, validate the result, and snapshot before mutation. 290 files, 31 seconds.

I'm posting to look for similar large codebases, ugly cases: barrel exports, aliases, macros, generated code, weird imports, large repos, whatever. If you have a refactor where Claude or Codex typically faceplants, plz share it. I want to see if my tools can tackle it.

And if your honest reaction is "cool, still wouldn't use it" — I'd genuinely love to know why too.

u/BitterComfortable776 — 16 days ago
▲ 31 r/Clojure

Hi Clojurians,

pando is a tool for coding agents that treats code as data and has first class support for *structural* (i.e. using the AST) Clojure code navigation and editing. It works in addition to your existing tools - just connect over MCP.

I'd love your feedback on it - https://clojure.getpando.ai

Thank you kindly!

u/BitterComfortable776 — 27 days ago
▲ 1 r/ContextEngineering+1 crossposts

Here's what I did:

  1. Built a proxy that intercepts Codex's calls to OpenAI and rewrites them on the fly.
  2. Replayed 3,807 rounds of SWE-bench Verified traces through it: avg prompt 44k → 6k tokens (-87%).
  3. Posted it here to get the next reduction applied to my confidence interval — starting with the inevitable "How about accuracy?"

npx -y pando-proxy · github.com/human-software-us/pando-proxy

u/BitterComfortable776 — 27 days ago