I read an interesting article, where nettle tea and fucoidan ( extract from seaweed) were proposed as two products that stop the mechanisms that bartonella uses to switch off your immune system. So by stopping that process and switching your immune system back on, it would take care of the bartonella more easily on its own.
Here's the article, it's quite technical=
I made a post about it before, but when you are dealing with chronic lyme infections, your body and brain will be filled with biofilm and fibrin nests/plaque.. These plaques block access of herbs or abx to tissues and the dreaded bacteria/parasites. Treating with just abx or herbs at this point, without removing biofilm and nests, will stop your progress.
Additionally, lyme and bart reduce bloodflow by suppressing nitric oxide production. Reduced bloodflow also means reduced access to tissues and bacteria/parasites, so it is necessary that you increase your bloodflow.
So the break through these blockages, you need 3 supplements added to your protocol.
1.serrapeptase= break biofilm
2.lumbrokinase= break fibrin nests/plaque
3.pycnogenol= increases bloodflow
This will make your herbal or abx protocol much more effective.
If possible also, look into ways to move your lymphatic system, as the bugs and toxins there can also block its flow, which will hamper with elimination of toxins and dead bacteria, making you feel miserable.
Walking, exercise, dry skin brushing, epsom salt baths, using a vibration plate can help moving lymph.. Perhaps there are some herbs which can help with this but I didn't look into that yet.
This is probably going to be a controversial one.. But anyone looked into what emf's do to cells and the body? They are said to suppress the immune system and make some pathogens more virulent.. Could this also be a reason why people remain sick so chronically? The dramatic increase of these emf's everywhere over the past decades?
There have been some extremely interesting posts here in the past few days.. About the absolute necessity to break up fibrin nests to be able to reach tissues that are walled off pretty much by these often hardened fibrin nests..
Is not addressing the fibrin problem what makes abx or herbal treatments fail in some people?
I overlooked for a long time that there is a big difference between biofilms and fibrin nests. Biofilms, if not mistaken, are made up largely by polysaccharides and can be broken down by herbs, essential oils and perhaps abx... But fibrin is a protein and cannot be broken down by herbs or essential oils or abx very well if at all..
All 3 B's can and do produce fibrin nests in the body and brain, which can harden overtime and turn into a hard plaque that blocks blood flow, nutrient and oxygen delivery to tissues, probably blocks elimination of toxins aswell and certainly hides the nasty bacteria and protozoan parasites.. you get walled in from the inside basically..( then you get muscle atrophy etc)
There's two things that break down fibrin, if I understand it right= fibrinolytic enzymes, notable lumbrokinase.. and fasting, because when you don't eat for a while, the body starts to consume internal excess protein, like these fibrin nests..
This could also explain why fasting becomes a very difficult experience for some, as breaking down these hardened fibrin plaques is probably a painful process and it also releases bacteria and probably toxins to be evacuated..
What if people would do shorter fasts like omad or 1 meal every other day ( rolling fasts), paired with lumbrokinase to assist the breaking down of fibrin structures , herbal teas to address the released bacteria and some binders to sweep up the released toxins..
Would this be able to crack some very resistant, chronic cases?