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Carbon Creek Aftermath: Mestral Journey

Carbon Creek Aftermath: Mestral Journey

Heh. Just something I thought of heh.

u/Bruzie77 — 3 days ago

Did Mestral and Rios regret their decision? Also small Guinan rant.

In Mestral’s case, he lands in the 1950s, enjoys the relative peace and simplicity of the era, and thinks:

“You know what? These people have potential. I’m going to stay.”

But imagine what he experiences over the next several decades.

The 1960s bring the rise of the KKK and the civil rights movement. The 1970s see social upheaval and a rejection of the restraint and emotional control that Vulcans value. The 1980s are marked by famine, war, the HIV epidemic, and exploding drug use. The 1990s are comparatively calmer, but there is still a sense of cultural numbness and cynicism.

Then the new millennium arrives, along with the War on Terror and a world growing increasingly fearful.

By 2024, poverty reaches crisis levels and the Bell Riots erupt. This is the world Cristóbal Rios chooses to remain in.

And things only get worse.

The Eugenics Wars scar humanity. Colonel Green carries out ethnic cleansing. Then the species both Mestral and Rios came to admire proceeds to nearly destroy itself in World War III.

Rios would likely have been in his forties or fifties during the Eugenics Wars and around sixty by the time World War III broke out. Given that humans in the 24th century routinely live well past 100, he could very well have survived to witness it all. And based on what we see in Picard, he doesn’t exactly strike me as someone deeply versed in the darker chapters of Earth’s history.

As for Mestral, imagine the irony. He stays behind because he sees promise in humanity, only to watch that same species nuke itself into near extinction.

At that point, I have to wonder whether he played any role in helping Zefram Cochrane and ensuring First Contact happened. After all, if you’ve spent centuries living among humans and watching them repeatedly self-destruct, you might feel a personal stake in making sure they finally get off that miserable little rock.

It just makes me curious about characters like Mestral and Rios who choose to stay on Earth, knowing that the Eugenics Wars, the Bell Riots, and World War III are all looming on the horizon.

Edit Guinan Rant deleted: Just remembered she did noped out off of Earth so this was probably cannon. Bet she was surprised as fuck when it was humans in space picking up her people after they fled from the borg and save them.

Probably went : Oh shit. You guys made it… wow.

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u/Bruzie77 — 3 days ago

Anyone had a clear picture of the Romulan Supernova fall out?

So the Romulan was a spacefare empire. One would think they can ferry their own people to another planet outside the supernova range.

For some reason they asked the Federation for help.

Fast Forward to Star Trek 2009

Nero hate spock and cares little for the romulan empire who is still alive and he can give a warning to if he like. He doesn’t so why the hate for spock?

Picard. The Romulan neutral zone collapse yet the romulan ad a political entity still exists. So how could it collapse? Also why are they living on fringe worlds when they have a shit tone of space around.

They also have a fleet that could still challenge the federation easily.

Why is the federation hated on when their offier to help was met with sabotage?

Picard try to show that romulan empire is still strong yet at the same time try to portray them as scatter refugees and a broken people….

how?

Where are the new borders?

Anyone that can help shin a light on all of this would be appreciated.

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u/Bruzie77 — 11 days ago

Here’s what we know from Star Trek lore:
The Higher Synthetics exist on a higher-dimensional plane and can reshape reality on a massive scale.
The Higher Synthetics have already purged the galaxy of all life once.
The Borg have no known origin, yet their entire purpose revolves around achieving “perfection.”
Q forcibly put the Federation on the Borg’s radar, which ultimately resulted in the entire Borg/Federation timeline conflict.
Q explicitly warned Q Jr. never to interfere with the Borg.
The Organians, another near-omnipotent species, mysteriously disappeared.
Q was dying in Picard Season 2, shortly after the Higher Synthetics were effectively re-invited into the Milky Way.
We know the Progenitors seeded life throughout the galaxy.

So here’s my theory:
The Higher Synthetics are essentially the Borg evolved onto a higher plane of existence.
However, they have one major limitation: they cannot directly enter normal space unless they are invited in. The Borg were their original attempt to bypass that restriction, a physical extension of themselves into the material universe. And like the Higher Synthetics, the Borg ultimately seek to erase individuality and reshape life into a singular “perfect” form.
The Organians either:
died fighting the Higher Synthetics,
were wiped out by them,
or fled after realizing what was coming.
The Q, meanwhile, were too prideful to leave. They stayed, believing themselves untouchable, until it was too late.

Then comes Discovery and Picard.
As far as we know, the last confirmed appearance of a Q is in Picard. Around the same time, Q himself is dying—right after the events that reopened contact with the Higher Synthetics.
That can’t just be coincidence.
My theory is that the Higher Synthetics are still trapped within whatever extradimensional realm overlaps with Q space, and that a war occurred between them and the Q Continuum.
The Q lost.
Now the Higher Synthetics remain on the other side, watching the Milky Way and waiting for another chance to fully enter the universe.

As for the Progenitors:
They may have awakened in an empty galaxy, one that had already been sterilized by the Higher Synthetics. We now know they discovered ways to create and seed life from older technologies or civilizations.
So either:
the Progenitors evolved after the Higher Synthetics wiped the galaxy clean,
or this is essentially a Halo-style cycle, where the Progenitors themselves were nearly exterminated by the Higher Synthetics, and life slowly re-emerged afterward.

So the big question is:
Is this theory feasible within Star Trek lore, or does it break too many established rules?

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u/Bruzie77 — 15 days ago

So in Starfleet Academy, Bajorans no longer display images of Sisko. At first, I thought it was a real-world parallel—something like the avoidance of depicting Muhammad. But the more I thought about it, the more it felt like something else could be going on.

We know Kai Winn and Dukat ended up in the Fire Caves. Winn always resented that the Emissary was a human—an outsider. Dukat, meanwhile, craved worship and could never accept that the Bajorans didn’t revere him, despite his delusional belief that he had “protected” them. Both of them wanted recognition from the Bajoran people.

And then there’s Sisko—after his disappearance, he becomes legendary. Revered. Iconic. Murals, statues, symbolism everywhere.

Now imagine Winn and Dukat, trapped and tormented, watching that from whatever state they’re in. How much resentment, jealousy, and spite would that build?

They’re both manipulative, strategic thinkers. So here’s the idea:

At some point down the line, their influence seeps back into Bajoran society. Subtle at first. They convince a Kai, a Vedek, maybe a whole sect, that the true way to honor “the Sisko” is to move beyond his physical form.

No images. No statues. No human representation.

Instead, “the Sisko” becomes formless—something symbolic, something that could be anyone or anything. Not a human, not an outsider, but an abstract divine presence.

That way, they can’t stop the Bajorans from revering Sisko—but they can reshape what that reverence looks like. Twist it. Redirect it into something that suits their own resentment and ideology.

A Pah Wraith victory. took his life, took him awat from his family, and now take away his image.

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u/Bruzie77 — 17 days ago