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They are moving back to the U.K. It's not that shocking. We knew something would give.

I previously wrote that Harry will be In, and Meghan will be Out.

Harry will return to the U.K., along with the two children. But not as a working royal. He will be siloed away from the rest of the family.

Meghan Will Never Divorce Him (?)

Yes, I think that is true. She knows she can never do better than Harry, and she is nothing without him.

But it's not up to Meghan. She doesn't have any leverage to demand anything.

Meghan Will Never Give Up the Kids, Because They are Her Meal Ticket (?)

Again, it is not up to Meghan.

Meghan will get to keep her Duchess title in exchange for custody of the children. (I believe that is why their titles were never taken away.)

The Royal Family gave the Harkles the grace to pretend that Megxit was their idea, when in fact they were fired/benched due to her inappropriate behavior.

I believe the separation of this marriage will be similar. Meghan will be allowed to pretend that she is still married, still a mother to their children, for a period of time. My guess is 1-2 years.

Meghan will be granted the same media facade as Megxit, to ensure a smooth transition, and also to soften the blow to the children. That is her divorce package.

The tumor called Meghan will be excised.

The King will hide Harry away to spare the family further embarrassment.

Meghan Will Demand $$$ to Go Away (?)

Same as above, it's not up to her. She has no leverage.

2025 was the year. Netflix show, podcast, brand launch, the works. Fail, fail, fail. This year, Exec. Producer of Cookie Queens. Wow.

Harry has a world of trouble ahead. Lawsuits are lost, charities are imploding, sued for defamation.

Even Harry can see that it's all heading towards doom. So, he crawls back to the U.K. with his tail between his legs.

I have no way of knowing what the King's health status is. But he is dealing with the eventuality that he won't be around forever, so he is wrapping things up.

The King's objective is to not leave Harry in the U.S. to continue to be a dancing monkey for this succubus, as Harry spirals downwards into the gutter. And to stop his grandchildren from being further exploited by their fame-hungry "mother."

Again, this is not solely out of affection to his second son, but because Harry in the U.S. with Meghan will be trouble for the Royal Family in the long run.

The solution is to keep Harry in the U.K. - again, NOT as a working royal - but out of trouble, and with the children.

And to cut Meghan out of the picture. It will be surgical.

In my opinion, William and Catherine do not have to deal with this at all. They are the future King and Queen. If they do not want to deal with Harry drama, they do not have to.

I previously wrote that Harry will be In, and Meghan will be Out.

Today, some well-known British gossip columnists are in sheer panic because Clive Alderton will be retiring, which they believe will pave the road for Harry and Meghan to return to the U.K.

I don't know if they are right, but I predicted over a week ago that Harry will return. And I am more certain of that now.

Human-Economics6894's excellent daily summary of Neil Sean videos mentioned today that many years ago, Charles was sent to visit his great uncle Edward VIII ("Uncle David") who abdicated his throne to marry American socialite Wallis Simpson. Charles was sad to see the state that Uncle David was in, "surrounded by parasites." So, Charles probably feels sad that his son Harry has turned out to live the same kind of life.

But the truth is, Harry is worse. He is making an absolute donkey out of himself, on podcasts, TV shows, suing the media. Such a fool.

So, Harry will be accepted back, along with the two children. But not as a working royal. He will be siloed away from the rest of the family. I predicted that he would be exiled somewhere in the U.K. like Andrew, but who really knows.

Meghan is out.

• Meghan Will Need $$$$$ to Leave?

I don't agree. A marriage takes two people who want to stay married.

This marriage is over when Harry decides to leave it.

It's not up to her. She doesn't have any leverage to demand anything.

• Meghan Will Never Give Up the Kids, Because They are Her Meal Ticket?

I believe now that this is why their titles were never taken away.

Meghan will get to keep her Duchess title in exchange for custody.

I think we know what she would prefer to keep.

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One thing I've come to believe after reading this sub is that Meghan never left the Royal Family, she was "fired."

The Royal Family gave them the grace to pretend that Megxit was their idea.

I believe the separation of this marriage will be similar. Meghan will be allowed to pretend that she is still married, still a mother to their children, for a period of time. Meghan will be granted the same media facade as Megxit, to ensure a smooth transition, and also to soften the blow to the children. That is her divorce package.

The tumor called Meghan will be excised. Harry will be returned to the King, broken and degraded. The King will hide him away to spare the family further embarrassment.

Just my prediction.

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A note regarding Charles' visit with Uncle David:

King Charles III visited his great-uncle, the former King Edward VIII (then the Duke of Windsor), in Paris twice: first for a private 45-minute meeting on October 4, 1970, and again in May 1972 alongside Queen Elizabeth II shortly before Edward's death.

Charles wrote in his diary that the visit felt tragic and pathetic, noting the household staff wore uniforms identical to those at Buckingham Palace, and was relieved to leave after 45 minutes.

(So, a 45-minute meeting is enough for Charles to witness that a man is living a pathetic life. Interesting fact!)

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ETA:

I agree that Meghan definitely has recordings of Harry she intends to use for blackmail. But we did see Harry wearing a nazi uniform and also naked in Vegas.

Worst of all, Harry danced in Meghan's twerking video, watched silently as she mocked his grandmother, the Queen... What I am saying is, what can possibly be more humiliating than the fact that he married this succubus and been her simp for 10 years?

And as others have pointed out, the Palace has a dossier on Meghan, too.

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ETA 2:

I just want to clarify that in my theory of Harry's return to the U.K., I do not mean that he will return to working as a royal. Not even that he will be eased into that role after a number of years. I believe that will never happen.

First of all, the U.K. people will not tolerate it. He betrayed them.

And he betrayed his family. Shauna of the Vintage Read Show said that she believed Harry was out forever when he wrote about the Queen's deathbed in his stupid book. The Queen had very few things she could call her own, and one of them was dignity in her death. What can be more private and sacred than the moment of your death? For anyone? He violated that for a payday. The other thing the Queen owned was her private, personal nickname. We know what the Harkles did about that. (This was from a video I watched over a year ago, so I haven't been successful in locating it.)

And really, Harry has betrayed his family so many times that it's hard to pick one moment that was a breaking point.

But Harry is facing some huge, serious problems. The ANL lawsuit is the least of it. I believe that Sentebale will become a much bigger problem for him, and Invictus financing is in serious trouble as well - the finances are arousing suspicion, and it's doubtful he can raise enough money to keep it going. Losing a lawsuit is one thing. But corruption in his charities? Very bad. He is truly on a road to ruin.

Harry was born into unimaginable privilege. Not just materially, but the adoration he received throughout his life, thanks to his family. Just think, who wears a nazi uniform but somehow goes onto become one of the most beloved royals? A gift from the Queen.

Meghan led him away with promise of something better than what he had. Billionaire global superstardom, free houses, free private jets, everyone falling at their feet, better than what William has.

She hasn't delivered. What he has now is worldwide scorn, massive money problems, and a viper wife. There will be a point that he will hit a wall, and a life in internal exile will be better than whatever he's facing on the outside.

I believe that the King does not enjoy seeing his son playing a dancing monkey to this viper woman, or to see his grandchildren raised to become Kardashians.

A lot of people have been shouting "Remove their titles!" Including me. But we already know that the removal of titles won't stop their clownery. The only way to stop them is to separate them. I once described them as bleach and ammonia - toxic on their own but useful when used safely. But they become deadly toxic when combined.

William won't stand for this. That is a good point but Harry without Meghan is probably less troublesome for him than Harry with Meghan.

Meghan won't stand for this. Yes, that's obviously true. But what can she do about it?

This is the British Monarchy vs. a z-list actress who only has any relevance due to her association with the British Monarchy. She may have caused them troubles, but she will not win the war. She's already fired her shots. (Racism!) She's out of ammo. All she has left are hostages.

I'm not going to repost the picture because we've all seen more than enough. (Love the memes, though.)

I think it's pretty funny that the photo features her husband playing with the two kids in the water, but the only thing you see is her butt. Because she wants you to see it, front and center.

I try not to body-shame Meghan. But since she insists on shoving it in our faces, I think we can acknowledge that her body does have the effect of causing... a reaction that is different than when seeing a more conventionally beautiful female body, shall we say? 🤮

I guess we have to wonder "Why?"

1. She is inviting Diana comparisons, as ever. 😨
2. She is saying "F U" to the Royal Family. Because this must be absolutely mortifying for them.
3. Most importantly, she is saying "F U" to us.

This photo dump is obviously a "clap back" to all the people online who were laughing at her over her dud of a U.K. trip and her incredibly lame attempts to exploit the visit with the King.

And Meghan is mad. 🤣

Did you know that a wombat fights with its butt when it feels threatened?

Meghan is a wombat who feels cornered. People, we are in the midst of a wombat-butt attack. ⚠️ Take cover.

Meghan is mad because she obviously worked hard to make this U.K. trip her big comeback, and it didn't work. So, this butt is a giant middle finger to the world.

For anytime Meghan pretends to be a caring mom, demure, frightened, kind... this horrific butt picture will serve as a rebuke.

Much like the twerking video, the butt is her legacy.

*dramatic pause* "The latter." 🤮🤮🤮

(1) Meghan was "silenced" by the Palace:

• She was not allowed to make political statements - all royals must be politically neutral.
• She was not allowed to give whiny media interviews about her personal feelings.
• She was not allowed to use "Sussex Royal" to sell crap online.
• She was not allowed to get paid by clothing and jewelry companies for wearing their stuff while working as a royal.
• When she "used her voice" to abuse staff, she was told to stop.
• She was not allowed to take pictures of the palace interiors, or photos of the Wales children in their rooms. And she was not allowed to sell those photos.
• She was not allowed to dig around William's car trunk.
• When she lied in court, she had to retract her deceitful statement and apologize to the judge.
• She was probably told to stop being so vulgar and rude. (Unfettered from the Palace, in her natural state, she is quite vulgar and rude.)
• I imagine that there were many attempts from the Palace to get her to stop embarrassing the Royal Family with her stunning ignorance. (Proof: We have seen Meghan create a cooking show which showed she obviously doesn't know how to cook or know basic kitchen hygiene. This is just one piece of proof that there is great distance from what Meghan thinks she knows, and what she actually knows.)

Each time, Meghan must have seethed, "I am being SILENCED AGAIN!"

*(This list was supplemented by smart commenters below. Also, considering that she was only in the Royal Family for only 1 year and 10 months - wow, she's been busy causing trouble!)

(2) Meghan was "silenced" by Meghan:

Meghan asked to have a songbird with its tongue cut out on her Royal Coat of Arms. She'd been setting this narrative up since even before she married Harry. That she was "silenced." She was Little Mermaid.

Meghan was asking to be "silenced." She was eager to be victimized, eager to be oppressed. To create a good story for Oprah.

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(3) Meghan was "silenced" by Hollywood:

Meghan has been blathering non-stop, "unsilenced" for 6 years, and the world now realizes that she has nothing to say but lies.

So, everyone's stopped listening.

When no one listens to you, it must feel like you are being silenced, in a way.

Hollywood has effectively "silenced" Meghan - by taking away her platforms and not renewing her media deals.

And the rest of the world has stopped listening, because people don't like being lied to.

(4) What is Oprah up to?

Whether Oprah likes it or not, the interview with the Harkles is one of her more significant interviews, and certainly the most recent of her big, memorable events.

So, when talking to Oprah about her career, it would be weird if Vanity Fair didn't mention the Harkles interview at all. But when they played Meghan talking, Oprah honestly seemed repelled. When asked to comment, Oprah simply ended up saying that she was trying to make her point clear. Because people don't understand the difference between "silent" and "silenced?"

Oprah was clearly dodging. She obviously doesn't want to talk about this.

I personally don't know much about Oprah, but I did listen to Cheere Denise's videos about the Oprah biography by Kitty Kelley. Oprah was always trying to find sensational topics and always tried to create controversy. That was why her show was so successful. In one case, she humiliated a guest on her show so much that after appearing on her show, he ended his own life.

(*I was asked to verify this by other commenters and provided more detail in a comment below. I did originally state that the guest returned home and ended his life soon after. But the fact was that it happened "less than two weeks after" he appeared on her show. I do apologize for getting this detail wrong. In any case, I was NOT confusing this incident with the Jenny Jones show.

In addition to this death, Oprah previously did a show about autoerotic asphyxiation which also led to another death. She was warned that she should not do that episode by experts, but she did it anyway.

I think it's fair to conclude that Oprah made some irresponsible decisions.)

Oprah has also produced movies and TV shows, and even bought her own TV channel, but did not achieve much success with those projects. Oprah has had a bunch of other controversies that do not involve Meghan. I won't list them here, but I do not think she has respect or credibility anymore in the general public.

If Oprah was proud of this interview, she would say something like, "Yes, that was an important interview. I wanted to give Meghan the voice that was taken by the Palace." (Of course, Meghan would have loved that.) But even Oprah knows what a giant bag of steaming horse-doo that interview was.

Oprah always knew. She just thought it was a good idea at the time because she loves controversy. But she knows now what a loser Meghan is. She's not proud of this interview. She had it scrubbed from the internet.

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Feisty_Energy_107 posted below a thought that occurred to me as well. That the Palace had told Meghan to be quiet, so she is using Oprah to send the message to the public, "I'm being silenced again!"

That thought did occur to me as well. In my previous post, I said Meghan was definitely told *something* by the Palace. My theory was that they told her to stop posting faceless photos of her children on Instagram. (We haven't seen those since the visit, have we?)

And if the Palace really did silence Meghan for the time being, I surely thank them.

So, I did think for a moment that Meghan is trying to use Oprah as a proxy for her "silenced voice." She is obsessed with "telling her truth" after all.

Having said that, I don't think Meghan has any actual access to Oprah anymore. To ask Oprah to say something in the media on her behalf? No.

I believe that Harry will return to the U.K. His return will be about containment of damage, not a homecoming.

Harry is facing gigantic money problems; the Daily Mail lawsuit was a bust. More than the enormous amount of money he will owe, he looks so incredibly foolish. And his connection to his charities have eroded severely, with nothing but trouble ahead. (I personally think the Sentabale debacle will be even more damaging to his reputation than the Daily Mail lawsuit.)

Charles will allow Harry to return. Not so much because Harry is a beloved son, but because he is making too much of a fool of himself, and the embarrassment he is causing is getting truly insufferable. So, if Harry crawls back, Charles will allow him in, then send him into exile to a remote U.K. property to live out the rest of his days, just like Andrew.

For Harry, this will be much better than where he is now.

Archie and Lili are the King's grandchildren, as far as public knowledge is concerned. The King will provide for Archie and Lili. Even if they are not who they are purported to be, he won't abandon them. Most importantly, he will not leave them to be exploited by Meghan.

I do not believe Harry and Meghan will divorce soon.

I expect they will concoct a story that Harry is staying in the U.K. for the sake of the children, and Meghan is back in the U.S. because she is a Daytime Emmy nominated entertainment powerhouse. At first, they will pretend that this marriage is being maintained. "A new chapter in their marriage! Supporting each other's dreams!" The usual pile of horse-doody. No one will believe it, but People Magazine will print it.

The maintenance of this illusion, for a period of time, is Meghan's divorce package.

After this U.K. trip, we've finally gotten to the point of the story where everyone ignores the boy that cried wolf. But the true point about that fable is not that the villagers no longer believe the boy. It's that they've stopped caring that the wolves are devouring his sheep.

"Half in and half out" has happened after all. Harry is in, Meghan is out.

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Have there been any photos of the children on Meghan's Instagram since the U.K. trip? (ETA: I mean, the faceless photos she posts of them in their backyard, not of their meeting with the King.)

My theory is that she was ordered by the Palace to stop doing that to the children.

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ETA:

Adding a few points:

- Harry will not be allowed to live in Africa, or anywhere outside of the U.K. due to possibility of foreign influence. He will remain under U.K. control.

- Meghan was clearly planning to make the Girl Child into a Kardashian. I believe the King will do what he can to prevent that horrifying spectacle.

- I do not believe Meghan will be offered money as a divorce settlement. As some of you pointed out, any sum of money will make U.K. citizens unhappy (even if it is from his personal funds), and I agree.

As I wrote above, maintaining the illusion that she is still married to Harry will be more valuable to her. To pretend that the royal connection still exists, but most of all, to save face.

And that is what she will be given, for a period of time. For the children's sake.

- If the births of her children are not what they have said it was, I do not believe Meghan will be the one to reveal that. Yes, that would be throwing a bomb on the Palace, but she will also be setting herself on fire in the process. I don't believe she will do that.

If she ever did that, the Palace will release the hounds.

- Some of you are saying that the Palace will pay her $100 million and she gets to keep her titles. Fair points. But I don't agree.

I don't know if "She will write a book about this!" is the sort of threat that makes a dent anymore. No one believes a thing Meghan says. So, what leverage does she have over them?

She has none. She is not a threat. They don't need to give her a thing.

The Palace has leverage over Meghan. Not the other way around.

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Are my theories correct? Probably not. They are just based on my hunch.

As I wrote above, the proof will be whether Meghan posts any new faceless photos of the barefoot kids on her Instagram (not of them meeting the King, but any photo) from now on.

https://theemmys.tv/daytime-emmy-awards/53rd-annual-daytime-emmy-awards-nominees/

https://apnews.com/article/daytime-emmys-nominations-23a97692c66b4bcc71ec27ed9d8f474d

Outstanding Lifestyle Program

• A Different Breed
• George to the Rescue
• With Love, Meghan
• The Motherhood
• The Wizard of Paws

A little bit of information about each show:

• A Different Breed - A Different Breed is a 2025 docuseries that dives into the high-stakes world of competitive canine sports. The show follows passionate trainers and their remarkable dogs as they train and compete in events like agility, diving, and freestyle disc on their journey to the Incredible Dog Challenge National Finals. (Amazon Prime Video) - 8.1/10 IMDb
• George to the Rescue - Home renovation series with host and contractor George Oliphant, featuring top interior designers and contractors teaming up to help deserving families and communities with much needed home renovations. Through inspiring stories of overcoming challenges, this uplifting series highlights the best of the human spirit. "George to the Rescue" is produced by LXTV part of the NBCUniversal Owned Television Stations division of NBCUniversal - 8.8/10 IMDb
• With Love, Meghan - Meghan, Duchess of Sussex invites friends and famous guests to a beautiful California estate, where she shares cooking, gardening and hosting tips. (Netflix) - 3.2/10 IMDb
• The Motherhood - Connie Britton, along with three experts in parenting, style, and home — Angela Rose, Destini Ann, and Taryn Hicks — help single mothers create more balanced and fulfilling lives for themselves and their families. Together, they form: The Motherhood. (Hallmark Channel) - 4.9-5.7/10 IMDb
• The Wizard of Paws - The Wizard of Paws is an American reality show on BYU TV that follows Sterling, Virginia-based animal orthotist Derrick Campana as he creates prosthetic limbs for pets and sanctuary animals. (BYU TV - Brigham Young University) - 9.1/10 IMDb

(Thanks for the IMDb scores, Insatiable_I !!)

An IMDb score doesn't indicate who will win an Emmy. It's also not necessarily an indicator of quality. However, it does indicate how much viewers enjoyed watching this show or movie.

According to IMDb, "Meghan, Duchess of Sussex" is one of the executive producers. And the production company is Archewell Productions.

(I removed my previous commentary in which I just snarked about this whole situation.)

The Daytime Emmys are somewhat less prestigious than the Primetime Emmys. There is a ceremony and a red carpet, apparently, but it does not air on broadcast television. It can be watched online.

I never watched the Daytime Emmys, but it is a legit awards show. I guess one can describe it as a B-list show? I typically associate it with soap operas and daytime talk shows.

The Associated Press calls Meghan "Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex" and she's in the headline. Hmm.

As you will see from the show descriptions, three of the other shows are very well-intentioned and edifying. Helping struggling people and animals. The first show on the list is about competitive canine sports, which sounds interesting. At the very least, it's about something.

Meghan's show, as we saw, is about day drinking, poor kitchen hygiene, and Meghan being rude, boring, and weird. It also ranked far below 300 in the Netflix viewership rankings.

But despite the consistently savage reviews for the show and low viewership, some did praise the production and visuals, while struggling to find something positive to say. As another commenter pointed out, Meghan's show probably had the highest budget. And it certainly got the most attention compared to the other shows on this list.

For further context, in 2025:

Daytime Emmys - Outstanding Lifestyle Program:

• “George to the Rescue” (NBC)
• “Hack Your Health: The Secrets of Your Gut” (Netflix [Tremolo Productions])
• “Harlem Globetrotters: Play It Forward ” (NBC [Hearst Media Production Group])
• “Homegrown” (Magnolia Network [Eclipse Creative])
• WINNER: “You Are What You Eat: A Twin Experiment” (Netflix [Netflix | OPS | The Vogt Foundation])

Documentary - Identical twins change their diet and lifestyle for eight weeks in a unique scientific experiment designed to explore how certain foods impact the body.

Based on what we know about this meeting via Neil Sean via Human-Economics6894...

Allegedly:

1. Meghan desperately begged the Palace that Harry needs this meeting because he is having a mental breakdown

a. Losing the ANL lawsuit on all counts was pretty devastating.

b. Another poster on this sub concluded that Meghan must have said Harry might hurt himself by "reading between the lines." (Would Meghan weaponize such sensitive issues to get what she wants? We know the answer.)

2. Meghan and the children waited outside as Harry went in first to meet with the King and Queen

What this indicates to me is that Harry entered, then begged for Meghan to be allowed to enter. The King allowed it only because she was with the children.

She used the children as a Trojan Horse. She probably held onto them with a death grip. "They're not going in without me!" She is not called "the Claw" for nothing, right?

This reminds me of when Queen Elizabeth passed away. Meghan had released to Omid Scobie that she would travel with Harry to Balmoral to see the Queen. Charles said she is not allowed to come. Harry threw a tantrum, but Charles held his ground. (Consequentially, Catherine didn't go, and the plane was delayed for the rest of the family, causing them to arrive after the Queen already passed away.)

3. What I think happened at the meeting

Nothing.

I think about the garden party. It was a party celebrating Charles' birthday very soon after H&M's wedding.

Meghan was being a nightmare, full-narcissism-activated, so Charles and Camilla curtly said, "The car is waiting" and kissed them goodbye. (Meghan was later seen looking very upset in the car as she left. We can only imagine the crazy fit she thew later.)

Charles and Camilla are masters at the elegant dismissal. One can certainly imagine Meghan trying to start a conversation with them, in that "me-me-me" way of hers. They know how to shut that down.

Remember how Kristin Scott Thomas completely blanked Meghan? I'm picturing a version of that.

So, I imagine that the meeting consisted of very little else beyond, "Oh, hello. ... *sip tea* ... Well, goodbye."

They gave her nothing. I truly doubt that they made even eye contact with her.

4. H&M notified the media first that the meeting occurred. Palace confirmed it later.

Meghan will try to dine out on this meeting. But the so-called excitement is already over. Aside from the initial burst of media, the news cycle is done.

The Harkles were probably warned to not speak of it.

But more than that, I don't think anyone cares that much, in the end.

A grandfather spent one hour with his son and his two grandchildren. That is ultimately not that interesting.

The sugars have their feelings about this. The sinners have their feelings about this. I was initially disappointed and wished it didn't happen. But it really doesn't matter, does it?

Meghan always thinks that proximity means something. For example, being in a photo with Ted Sarandos and his wife proves... something. She imagines it was a power move to shut down and turn the narrative around. But that didn't actually change the fact that she was booted out of Netflix.

She probably imagines that having been in the King's presence, her children have become more commercially valuable. Her low-rent sensibilities never cease to amaze.

Meghan wants people to believe that something important happened here. But I don't think anything happened at all.

Grey-rocking will continue.

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ETA:

Another incident I just thought of is the walkabout with W+C after the Queen's funeral.

It didn't change anything. It didn't suddenly persuade anyone to believe that Meghan was now a "cherished member of the family." 🤣🤣🤣 (She is always so ridiculously delusional.)

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My final thought is about Meghan allegedly telling the Palace that Harry needed to meet with his father because he was having a mental breakdown to force this meeting to happen.

Public perception-wise - The Royal Family gave Meghan the King's son to become her husband, one of the most popular royals at the time. (Yes, I'm aware that he was not at all what he appeared to be. The Palace really is the greatest PR agency in the world. But nevertheless, Harry was popular.)

And now, Meghan is reduced to skulking back on their doorstep with this broken man, begging for their help.

Any way you look at it, this doesn't make Meghan look good at all.

I agree that whether the King did the right thing here is debatable, and I think all the varied perspectives are valid. And personally, I don't know.

But what I can tell you is that this did nothing for Meghan Markle, except to reinforce what a destructive succubus that she is.

"You've given me your son, a shiny Prince, gave me a lavish wedding, and walked me down the aisle. I return him to you a broken husk of a man and am now reduced to begging for a crumb of attention using our children."

It is certainly amusing that a meeting between family members somehow managed to displease both sides of the aisle.

Most sinners are not pleased about this, believing that the King caved to the manipulations of the Gruesome Twosome.

The sugars, who have been bashing Charles, William, Catherine (and everyone else on the "island") for the past decade really don't like this. (But Meghan is the brave hero who sacrificed herself for love. Because she is so good and full of love and sweetness and light... 🤮🤮🤮)

Who is happy about this trip? Perhaps Meghan, believing this will boost her business. As her two children have been anointed with royal fairy dust while in their grandfather's presence for a few hours, the backs of their heads will shine ever more brightly on her Instagram!

(She probably brought Charles an "As ever" gift box. The deluxe box that she sends to the sugars who are extra nasty online.)

After King Charles met with Harry very briefly in September 2025, he is reported to have said, "He (Harry) still doesn't understand" (paraphrased) to the courtiers while leaving.

So, one can only assume that he wants to meet them to get their measure. Observe for himself what is going on with them. Information gathering, for future reference.

And it is his son. I don't think most parents can truly abandon their children no matter how awful they may be. I don't see it as over-compensation. People can do much more awful things than Harry did, and the parent's heart will still break for them. Some people convicted of murder still have their parents come to visit them in prison.

I'm not making excuses for King Charles, but none of us really know what the true purpose of the meeting was, or any details.

At least until the Gruesome Twosome blabs about it.

Perhaps it was all a big test. If so, they have already failed.

My final thought is for the children. Having met their grandfather, the King of the U.K., they will continue to wonder, "Why don't we visit him again? Why didn't we see him before?" Before, it was always just a theory - what do they know about the Royal Family? But now, they've seen him. He is now real to them, and they will remember him.

Perhaps this trip broadened their horizons a little and gave them a little more perspective beyond their life as shut-ins, forced to turn their heads away from their mother's camera.

As the impact sinks in, and as we alternately laugh and shake our heads, let us remember Saint Meghan Markle.

She put him up to this.

Of course, he is 100% responsible. He loved that he thought he was making the tabloids suffer, he loved imagining himself as the "dragon slayer," fighting the righteous fight that he was sure to win.

But she put him up to this. She egged him on. As he made a Royal Fool of himself.

She wanted the U.K. press punished. She wanted $$$.

After all, she did win summary judgment in her privacy and copyright battle against Associated Newspapers Limited (ANL). And not even punished for committing perjury. ("Sorry, I forgot.") Surely that played a part in persuading him that he would win.

So, she threw him to the front lines. And he willingly marched on.

He told the court that the press has made "my wife’s life an absolute misery." How interesting. But Meghan Markle is not a plaintiff in this case. The puppet strings are in plain sight.

He is a dolt. She is a succubus.

They are a toxic combination. Like mixing bleach with ammonia.

In certain corners of the internet, the new narrative is that Meghan is sick of Harry's legal fights. She is distancing herself from this mess. Like she had nothing to do with it.

No. Her hands are not clean. This shame is also yours, Meghan Markle. You can't weasel your way out of this.

436 pages!!!

Judge Nicklin wants it on record, that he considered every possible angle, considered all the facts presented, and most importantly, thoroughly applied the law. He "left no stone unturned."

First, let's allow ourselves the good feelings. Of course, there is the initial, "Haha, you deserve this humiliation, you fool!" Let's enjoy this bit of fun. Why not.

And it always feels good to see the legal system make the correct decision. That doesn't always happen, but when it does, it feels good to see it. The system worked. Justice was done.

Then sadness. Sadness for Baroness Lawrence and the other plaintiffs who were drawn into this foolish endeavor by Prince Harry and unethical lawyers.

And sadness for the Royal Family. What a shame. It must hurt to see their son and brother disgrace himself in public like this. He did not heed their dire warnings. And it has come to this.

Then sobered. It is sobering to think - this isn't a simple court case loss. This is a very high-profile case. It is being covered globally. It will be studied in law schools. It will be in the history books. And Judge Nicklin knows that. He knows that his words will be pored over and scrutinized, and set precedents for press ethics and privacy rights in the U.K. He had to make sure every word was correct. All 436 pages.

Most of all, Prince Harry, second son of the King, LIED IN COURT. Proven and documented for posterity.

He disgraced himself forever.

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ETA:

There is an incredible and thorough analysis of the case by the incredible Human-Economics6894 in this sub! (I've tried linking the post but Reddit is not allowing me. But I encourage you to read it. The title of the post is: Drawing inferences is not a process of optimistic guesswork (Judge Nicklin, Duke of Sussex vs ANL, analysis)

A quick and dirty summary is that the judge found that ANL did unethical things in the past, but the plaintiffs needed to prove that they specifically did unethical things that affected the plaintiffs directly.

But the plaintiffs failed to do that. All they could say was that the ANL got personal information about them that they could have only gotten by unethical means. But the judge found that that wasn't true. For example, the ANL could have gotten the information from legitimate sources including "personal relationships" ("Mr. Mischief").

So, the plaintiffs failed to meet their burden of proof.

Human-Economics6894 posits that the issue may be appealed based on whether the burden of proof is too specific, and too difficult to satisfy after so much time has passed and evidence has vanished.

This is actually a pretty legit legal question. (However, Human-Economics6894 does not think an appeal will happen, based on the fact that Judge Nicklin warned the plaintiffs many times that evidence is needed.)

Not to mention, although the standard of proof is an interesting question, in the absence of tangible proof, there must be at least credible testimony, and Harry failed to meet even that standard.

Human-Economics6894 also said the real killer of this suit was regarding Elton John, not Harry. Elton John suffered a medical incident, but the article about it contained too many errors. If the media had really hacked Elton's medical records, it would have been more accurate.

But none of this changes the fact that Harry lied in court, and everyone knows it. And this is a huge loss for him.

If anyone learns anything from this, it's LYING IN COURT = BAD.

On a previous post, I listed the ways Meghan used "security" as a way to manipulate others, and as an all-purpose excuse. It is not a complete list, because she has told so many lies.

I added a few more. A quick rundown:

1. Meghan claimed she needed security in Toronto, so she asked to move to the U.K. and live with Harry
2. She found out that royal brides receive full security, so she rushed the marriage, so she could be protected
3. The Big Oprah Lie: racism = no title --> no security (All elements have been proven to be lies.)
4. Fence around Tyler Perry's house
5. Security is the reason she couldn't attend the Golden Globes
6. "Near catastrophic" car chase in NYC
7. Caravan of cars to travel one block in NYC
8. Crying on Netflix "You're scaring me"
9. "Security" was the reason she couldn't visit her father before the wedding.
10. "Security" is why she won't join Harry in the U.K. this summer.

Anyway, all this reminded me of this:

https://people.com/royals/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-security-training/

https://archive.ph/Sf00a (archived link)

Meghan Markle and Kate Middleton Went Through Intense Security Course After Their Royal Weddings

Meghan took part in a staged kidnapping that involved fake guns, according to the book Finding Freedom

(Published on August 26, 2020)

Meghan obviously has a "security" fetish. Imagining herself in this situation probably fits her always-victim mentality, along with constantly weeping on the floor due to all the suffering inflicted on her by the Royal Family and the British Press and enthusiastically claiming the title of "most trolled person in the world."

Meghan has been building up this narrative, that she is "hunted" in the streets and must be kept safe, flanked by armed guards. She is appealing to the kind of people who will find this narrative terribly exciting and romantic. Like she is the poor, hunted princess and Harry is the brave prince who protects her. (Yeah, gross.)

I must also mention how selling this "security course" story to celebrity media like People magazine compromises her own safety, as well as that of Princess Catherine and the other Royal Family members.

Harry's constant squawking about "security" in the media for days has done the same. Using provocative language like "mass casualty," "terrorism," "acid attack," "risking assassination," are all very dangerous and deeply stupid things for any public figure to say. It compromises his own safety, the safety of the other Royal Family members, and all of the U.K.

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ETA:

• Necessary_Habit_7747 wrote below: (S/he experienced receiving high-level security) "Real security is very discreet and not for show."

That is a great point. For example, in the U.S., the agency that protects the President and other important visitors is called "United States Secret Service," commonly called the "Secret Service." The key word is "Secret."

I don't know much about RAVEC, but I assume it is the same way. Everyone knows what they are and what they do generally, but they also do not share the details, nor the reasons for the decisions they make. Because that would compromise security.

For Harry to blab to the world constantly about how he and his wife are not protected is, first of all, simply untrue. They have bespoke protection - if they notify the Home Office a month in advance, they will be protected and kept safe while they are in the U.K. What and how much is not something anyone should advertise to the world, because it makes them, and everyone else less safe.

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This is what Meghan believes will stop the boos:

https://preview.redd.it/s1mgal2sqobh1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=4a107c5e894d6c2a559956f3f9a1fd96ad507cb1

https://x.com/MeghansMole/status/1792917250103451741/photo/1

Some consistently recurring themes among the sugars are:

1. Catherine (Kate, always Kate) has no style, and she copies the way Meghan dresses.

Yes, they really believe this.

2. We've seen the Harkles pull sad, attention-getting stunts to try and pull focus from any Royal event. However, the sugars believe that it's all done by the British Press and the Royals, always using the fabulous Harkles to try and drum up attention to their lame Royal events that no one cares about.

Poor Meghan. So exploited, when all she wants is privacy!

3. Kate is not as pretty as Meghan, who is gorgeous. Harry is much hotter than William, who is ugly.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Also, her business is a huge success! She made so much money that she bought Netflix out of their share! She is creating generational wealth for her children!

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

4. The U.K. is a horrible place, and Harry was miserable there. Harry is ecstatically happy in California. Meghan basically saved his life by getting him out of that horrible place. What would he do without Saint Meghan Markle?

Really.

"Harry is living his best life! So, William is jealous!" (Written many, many times a day.)

5. The British Royal Family are the worst. Everything they do is horrible. William and Kate hate each other and obviously do not live together. They are terrible parents for treating their children like zoo animals.

It's actually quite funny that Harry is clearly miserable, and the way the Harkles treat their children is obviously very concerning. But the sugars, they have just got to turn it around on the Wales, issue-by-issue.

They can't stand letting the Harkles be criticized like this! Must be racism!

So, the very idea that Meghan is willingly returning to the U.K.? This horrible place they've been bashing for years as the worst place on earth, full of racist vipers?

It's got the sugars pretty confused. They really hate it, actually.

But I guess the new talking point is that the British Royal Family needs Meghan more than ever, and have somehow persuaded her to return, because they just can't make it without her.

The Bubble of Delusion shall not be punctured! It must be protected at all costs, or their world will shatter.

So... this will all be... interesting.

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My prediction:

This trip will be much like the trips to Australia and Geneva. A painstakingly constructed fabrication that the Harkles are relevant and beloved, only for the facade to shatter quickly, revealing the shallow, hypocritical, morally bankrupt people they are.

They will try to dine out on this. They will probably sell some stories to the media. And that will be all they can squeeze out of it. Their credibility has fallen very far since 2020. All they've got left is the gossip and trainwreck value.

And of course, any attempt they make to exploit the U.K. will just earn them more scorn.

Everything they do makes them look worse. This will be no different.

The wrinkled rags Meghan wears will be available for sale, instantly after she is photographed in them. And now she can merch the kids' clothing! Wow, three times the fun. So, we can look forward to that!

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Avid Gardener's theory is that Harry's ultimate goal is to get the children in the U.K., and live there for one year, in order to be granted a divorce under U.K. laws, which will be much more favorable to him than in California. Food for thought.

(Hi Meghan!)

Some people are saying that Justin and Wayfarer are too nice.

I don't agree. I think they are nice in general, but they also fight back.

Remember when Blake filed this lawsuit, Wayfarer released the receipts on a website. That went a long way in getting the truth out there.

Blake and her lawyers fought dirty. Wayfarer fought back throughout this litigation and stood their ground.

Remember, Blake began all this mess because she was getting bad press and wanted to blame someone for it.

Now, her press is worse than ever. Before all this, she was a mean girl. After all this, she is now the meanest, cruelest girl. In addition, also a flagrant liar, a terrible employee, and a "terrorist" on projects, and an all-around nightmare to work with. She is a morally bankrupt person who would exploit a hot-button issue like SH to hijack a project and destroy people's reputations.

And in the process, she made a bunch of other famous "friends" look very bad and foolish.

It's a really huge deal that there are text messages in which Blake demanded that Sony delete film footage. In my opinion, this is actually the pay dirt. Depositions are given under oath. When she denied doing this, she committed perjury. And this litigation exposed Sony to serious liability, not just reputational damage.

The discovery in this litigation uncovered a lot of evidence. The absolute malice element of defamation can be proven. It's already been proven, many times over. Just not in a court of law. Not yet.

I think Wayfarer will let the dust settle for a while, take a break, then make their next move.

I was looking forward to the trial. So I was disappointed.

But this settlement contradicts every claim she has ever made. Her repeated public claims that she was doing this to help other SH victims? Her claims that multiple women on the set of this movie experienced an unsafe work environment? With this settlement, she's the one who silenced them.

(If any of that was ever true, that is. We know that it wasn't.)

This litigation is over, but I don't think the story is over. The litigation was painful for Wayfarer, but they also uncovered so much.

Just my opinion.

Meghan Markle's desperate attempts to scream "Look at me! Me! Me!" is getting ridiculous.

These sad attempts are accomplishing exactly two things.

(1) It's reminding everyone that she was NOT INVITED.

If the Harkles said nothing for these few days, no one would even think about them. That would also mean that they would not think about how these two clowns are NOT WELCOME among polite society.

Meghan, this trip is about your father-in-law.

He walked you down the aisle at your wedding.

And now he wants nothing to do with you.

But just in case anyone forgets that you have to keep reminding them.

(2) These creepy efforts are simultaneously letting everyone know WHY she is never invited.

Who would want this creepy behavior anywhere near them? Who wants to go anywhere near this nails-on-a-chalkboard CRINGE?

Every pathetic paid-for-article, every Instagram post, it's just reminding people that you are not welcome anywhere.

You are a pariah, a persona non grata, and this is why.

Can we even call these sad attempts a "clap back?" A "clap back" is something that is actually effective, isn't it? Something that actually hurts the person it is aimed at?

(Also, no offense to any chicken enthusiasts, but I've been inside a chicken coop, and they smell terrible. Not an occasion to put on makeup or wear something nice. Definitely not a way to sell chocolate. So, what is she even doing.)