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The directors Dom&Nic are hosting the Ava Adore video in high quality on their website

The directors Dom&Nic are hosting the Ava Adore video in high quality on their website

https://player.vimeo.com/video/51350385

What are everyone's thoughts on the video?

What are your favourite moments?

I do like the 'climax' of the song/rave scene at 02:25. The 'we must never be apart' mouthed by all three band members. I'm one of those fans who's fascinated by the mythology of the 'original' band, and the mystery of their relationships. Just because the relationships between artists are always interesting.

I also like that it ends on that blue 'glitchy' screen. Can anybody explain what that is? Is it just zooming in on pixels...?

u/Busy-Peach5770 — 1 day ago

I'm gonna flog a dead horse, because why not? Lol

I've been thinking a lot about D'Arcy, her career with the Pumpkins, her departure, and all of the he-said, she-said that's come out of it over the past 20 years. D'Arcy has become something of an enigma, to put it lightly. I totally respect her departure from the band and I totally respect someone's decision to leave the entertainment industry. She contributed plenty to the Pumpkins art project for 10 years, and if she wanted to move on, then that was a great decision for her.

Tonight I was reading the D'Arcy-Billy text chain that D'Arcy shared with the media. I'm overthinking it like I would overthink a work conversation with a colleague.

From my reading, it seems like the conversation went like this.

I'm paraphrasing:

Billy: We'd love to have you involved with the reunion tour. Because we care about your wellbeing, we want you to choose your level of involvement. You could play 2 songs or 7 songs with us. Just let us know. You decide. No pressure.

D'Arcy: I want to do the whole tour (implying full set list, every date of the tour).

Billy: You're not being realistic. You have to understand that I don't have faith that you are capable of pulling that off because you have a shoulder injury and you haven't been a touring musician for decades. We also haven't met face to face for 19 years.

https://musicfeeds.com.au/news/darcy-wretzky-shares-alleged-texts-billy-corgan-smashing-pumpkins-reunion/

Now my take is that Billy should have approached D'Arcy with the terms he was happy with (play 2 songs, play 5 songs, or play only 3 of the tour dates, what have you). Instead, he left the terms wide open and then he and D'Arcy disagreed on what they wanted. Now, it's possible that D'Arcy would have felt disrespected by a more-defined, limited offer, and the negotiations would have fallen apart anyway. But it was clear that Billy didn't feel comfortable letting D'Arcy choose her own level of participation, and there's a small chance it would have worked out better if he'd offered her some more specific terms.

Of course, there's no way of predicting how people will think or feel about anything.

I'd like to apologise for the parasocialness of this post as well hahaha.

u/Busy-Peach5770 — 11 days ago