u/CISDidNothingWr0ng

Most of the time, people online hate vulture droids because they aren't as good as organic pilots. That isn't entirely true, and vulture droids don't have to be as good as organic pilots anyway.

In almost every real life air battle, the side with numerical superiority comes out on top and rarely loses. The same logic applies to Separatist fighters, especially vulture droids. Yes, clone pilots could take down three to six vulture droids before dying, but most of the time there are around ten vulture droids against a single Republic starfighter, and in that situation nothing can save the clone.

Then people say Jedi are still better in a dogfight against vulture droids. That's obviously true, but the Valahari engineers flipped the coin. As this picture shows, Valahari modified vulture droids were able to take down a Jedi starfighter with a Jedi inside. In the uncropped version, they destroyed an entire Republic battle group, including several Venators. There's also a chance they shot down the Jedi's Padawan too, but I can't say for sure, since the Padawan might have been on a Venator.

So vulture droids are, and always will be, the best starfighter design in Star Wars, and overall the best starfighter after maybe the tri-fighter. They were produced in huge numbers, they were cheap and easy to modify, and they were super effective, super reliable, basically super fighter.

Don't have a lot to say here, just look at the picture. THOUSANDS of luckrehulks, that's crazy, and in the same time realistic.

Wow

I probably could have written a big ass text about this ship if we even knew anything about it, so I'll just drop these pictures here.

As seen in the first picture, the ship is far larger than the Venator. I would assume that it's three to four times larger than one, and it's not just longer, it's far more massive.

It's also interesting that this ship could literally one shot a Venator with full shields on, which is really surprising. Its main turbolasers were very, very strong. Well, probably because, as seen in the picture, its barrel is thicker than the Venator's bridge.

It's a little bit sad that we have no information about this ship, so we will have to assume a lot of stuff here. In the comic The Clone Wars: The Starcrusher Trap, it's shown that there are at least two of these bad boys, so it's hard for me to say if this ship was mass produced. It probably wasn't, because this was its only appearance. And yeah, why it wasn't mass produced is still a question we will never get the answer to.

The ship's name is the Starcrusher, and the only thing I would add is that its admiral was a Chad.

a half a dozen gungans got stuck under my hovers

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I’m going to diss this ship again so people finally understand why it’s absolute trash compared to Separatist vessels.

I have already written about one of the Venator’s biggest flaws, the time needed to deploy its full fighter complement. Because of this problem, most Venators flew around only half-filled with starfighters, making a giant portion of the deck basically useless.

To make everything clear, I’m not trying to say the Venator is a weak ship, absolutely not. In a 1v1 scenario, a Venator almost always comes out victorious against Munificents or Recusants thanks to its great weaponry, engines, and shields. Overall, the ship itself is very good, although not perfect. Again, its main design flaw is just the oversized space for an airwing that they almost never fully utilized, but that’s not even the biggest problem.

The biggest problem with the Venator is its cost effectiveness. At a price of 59 million credits, it already costs almost five times as much as a Munificent class frigate (12 million). In most cases, 4-5 Munificents were enough to destroy a single Venator, but it gets worse. The most expensive thing about the Venator is its crew.

In most sourcebooks and Star Wars media, it is mentioned that clones cost a lot. We never got concrete figures, but I estimate a basic clone trooper costs around 60k–80k credits. Therefore, I believe the average clone crewman on a Venator would cost around 100k–120kcredits, with higher officers potentially costing up to 200k, though I won't include them here. There are 7,400 crew members inside a Venator. This means that, on average, if the whole crew was composed of clones, the loss of one Venator meant a loss of 740 million credits just in personnel.

If we include the 2,000 passengers, the price jumps to 940 million. Once you factor in the starfighters and every vehicle inside, the loss of a single warship cost the Republic around 1 billion credits. That is insane. For comparison, you could buy 83 Munificents for that price.

Now, of course, some people will point out that Venator crews weren't composed entirely of clones, and that is true. But even if we assume only 20% of the crew were clones, that’s still 1,480 clones plus 2,000 clone troopers. That means the Republic lost 348 million just in the crew, totaling around 410 million credits lost for a single Venator. For that same amount of money, you could have bought 34 Munificents.

All of this makes the Venator a completely useless ship in terms of attrition. On its own, the Venator is great, but its lack of price effectiveness literally kills the ship's viability.