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Why is no one talking about these bad boys?
Most of the time, people online hate vulture droids because they aren't as good as organic pilots. That isn't entirely true, and vulture droids don't have to be as good as organic pilots anyway.
In almost every real life air battle, the side with numerical superiority comes out on top and rarely loses. The same logic applies to Separatist fighters, especially vulture droids. Yes, clone pilots could take down three to six vulture droids before dying, but most of the time there are around ten vulture droids against a single Republic starfighter, and in that situation nothing can save the clone.
Then people say Jedi are still better in a dogfight against vulture droids. That's obviously true, but the Valahari engineers flipped the coin. As this picture shows, Valahari modified vulture droids were able to take down a Jedi starfighter with a Jedi inside. In the uncropped version, they destroyed an entire Republic battle group, including several Venators. There's also a chance they shot down the Jedi's Padawan too, but I can't say for sure, since the Padawan might have been on a Venator.
So vulture droids are, and always will be, the best starfighter design in Star Wars, and overall the best starfighter after maybe the tri-fighter. They were produced in huge numbers, they were cheap and easy to modify, and they were super effective, super reliable, basically super fighter.
u/CISDidNothingWr0ng — 10 days ago
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yeah get him grievous
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u/Cautious_Air4964 — 12 days ago
Backgrounds of CIS organic officers
Although the Separatist Alliance relied heavily on droids (even for its leadership) the universe (both Canon and Legends) features many organic strategists. They come from diverse backgrounds, and in this post, I have decided to focus on those backgrounds (including specific examples).
Mercenaries
- the most visible segment of the Separatist military leadership. These are organic individuals who had previously demonstrated significant strategic expertise and were hired as a result (whether by the Separatist government or one of the major corporations). Such generals include:
Trench
Cad Bane
Durge
Riklon Tost
Osi Sobeck
Grievous
This group also has a subgroup consisting of
Mercenary group commanders
- these are commanders of existing mercenary organizations who decided to fight for the separatists. Notable members include:
Cavik Toth
Bella
Shogar Tok
Attuma Duum
Darts D'Nar
Rackham Sear
Spar
Zolghast
Coburn Sear
Ghez Hokan
Riff Tamson
Trask
Horn Ambigene
PDF Commanders
- this group of commanders is drawn from the planetary defense forces of the Confederation's individual member planets. They are the least well-known group of commanders, as the Confederation government preferred to deploy organic units solely for defensive purposes (due to concerns that heavy casualties would negatively impact civilian morale and the difficulty of coordinating such units). Such generals include:
Alto Stratus
Gallan
Jace Dallin
Mellor Yago
Berwer Kret
Dekluun
Bomo Greenbark
Unidentified Quarren commander (command center)
Rootrock
Unidentified Quarren commander
Sun Fac
Unidentified Viidaav commander
Pir Cuvin
Ennodius
Limbfree
Akenathen Tandin
Hurati
Farr-Nees
Mazzi
Piar Nagelsa
This group also has a subgroup consisting of
Deserters
- a subgroup that is difficult to categorize - I decided to include it here because it comprises deserters from all manner of factions, including the PDF. Generals with this background include, for example:
Merai
Sev'rance Tann
Rel Harsol
Corporate Employees
- another well-known group. These are the employees of the corporations that assembled a droid army at the start of the Clone Wars. Commanders with this background include, for example:
Nute Gunray (Trade federation)
Wat Tambor (Techno union)
Mar Tuuk (Trade federation)
Sentepeth Findos (Trade federation)
Domb Treetor (Techno union)
Whorm Loathsom (Retail Caucus)
Lok Durd (Trade federation)
Horgo Shive (InterGalactic Banking Clan)
Nuno Tuuk (Trade federation)
Dif Gehad (Trade federation)
Unidentified Neimoidian Separatist captain (Trade federation)
Fame Drimal (Trade federation)
Rune Haako (Trade federation)
Gap Nox (Trade federation)
Harro Ruuk (Trade federation)
Tost (InterGalactic Banking Clan)
Dua Ningo (Commerce Guild)
Pors Tonith (InterGalactic Banking Clan)
Tok Ashel (Trade federation)
Lushros Dofine (Trade federation)
Plure Barron (Trade federation)
Oro Dassyne (Corporate Alliance)
Aito Laff (Trade federation)
If you want to learn more about the separatist army, I recommend taking a look at:
And of course let me know which organic CIS general is your favorite and what you think of their background.
u/Dark_lord_Oka — 11 days ago