What if Isard released the Emperor's Plague?

What if Isard released the Emperor's Plague?

In this scenario, Isard unleashes the Emperor's Plague instead of the Krytos Virus on Coruscant after blasting off in the Lusankya. The Emperor's Plague was the opposite of the Virus, killing only humans instead of aliens, and was deadlier than the Virus, to the point where even Palpatine was afraid to use it.

Had Isard released the Plague, I think key New Republic politicians like Mon Mothma and Leia Organa would be too ill to continue working along, with billions of Coruscant's people. Borsk Fey'lya would seize this opportunity to make a power grab for Chief of State while Admiral Ackbar would use his role ad the NR Supreme Commander to block his rival's attempts. The Provisional Council was also made up of alien Councilors, and other human politicians would be forced to step up as substitutes to help keep the NR together.

Rogue Squadron would still go after Isard to liberate Thyferra from her in order to get the Bacta needed to cure the Plague. But in this timeline, Wedge Antilles, Tycho Celchu, Corran Horn, and at least half of the Rogues would be out of commission thanks to being infected. Funnily enough, the future members of Wraith Squadron might actually be asked to fill in the missing roles in Rogue Squadron. Especially if it was Wedge himself who vouched for them and planned it as a contingency in case something ever happen to him.

This would see Rogue Squadron utilising the future Wraiths' unorthodox tactics, which means they might actually defeat Isard sooner than the Rogues did in the original timeline. If the Wraiths could defeat Zsinj, then they can handle Isard. Particularly since their commando tactics are a good foil for Isard's role as a spymaster.

While the Wraiths may be able to beat Isard, there's a fair chance their actions wind up destroying the Lusankya like they did with the Razor's Kiss. The Wraiths save Thyferra and get bacta, but at the cost of depriving the New Republic of a Super Star Destroyer.

u/Dragonic_Overlord_ — 10 days ago

My thoughts on Star Wars: The Jedi Prince: Zorba the Hutt's Revenge.

To start with, I find Zorba to be a fascinating character. He is greedy and dishonest, just like how most Hutts are often depicted, but he also genuinely felt sad and angry over the death of Jabba the Hutt, his son, which makes it easy to sympathize with him while also giving him legitimate beef with Princess Leia. He is also cunning, as he knew he couldn't reclaim Jabba's palace from Tatooine's government on his own and hired bounty hunters to help him out, enabling him to recover Jabba's will.

Speaking of Jabba's will, when Lando challenged Zorba to a card game with ownership over Bespin as the victor's reward, the latter used Jabba's will to force Lando to play using Zorba's checkered deck since they were playing in Bespin's Holiday Towers Hotel and Casino, which used to belong to Jabba before he died. While Lando governed Bespin, Jabba's will meant Zorba now owned the Casino, challenging the legality of Lando's ownership. Unfortunately for Lando, Zorba's deck had cards checketed in ultraviolet light, a spectrum only the Hutts could see, which meant Lando was unable to find anything wrong with the deck, despite examining it several times over. As a result, Lando lost several rounds with Zorba, along with governorship over Bespin.

A good opportunity for Zorba would be to reinforce his legal claim over Bespin by mocking Lando by pointing out the New Republic values law and justice, so Lando couldn't oppose Zorba's legal claim to Bespin without going against the NR's values, much to Lando's frustration.

Something to note is that Lando noticed Zorba was a horrible card player, which is why he felt confident enough to challenge Zorba with Bespin's ownership on the light. So the fact Zorba used Jabba's will to stack the deck in his favor, both figuratively and literally, shows that what he lacks in skill he more than makes up for in cunning. Also, Lando admitting to Han that he allowed his over confidence to get the better of him like when he lost the Millennium Falcon to him in that card game was a good detail for Lando's character by showing he had learned from his mistakes, but he still had room to grow as a person.

For a Jedi Prince rewrite, one idea I had is to make Bespin contested territory between the New Republic and the Empire. Lando Calrissian resigns from being a General to take up his old job as Cloud City's Baron Administrator, and got Nien Nunb, the Sullustan who co-piloted with him on the Millennium Falcon during the Battle of Endor, promoted to his old rank of General and command over the NR Imperial-class Star Destroyer Allegiance. With Nunb leading Bespin's defence fleet while Lando tries to locate Trioculus' Imperial factory, which is well-hidden and launching attacks against Cloud City.

Something that makes Zorba stand out from the other Hutts is the fact he is personally willing to get involved in a fight. He participated in a shootout between him and Bespin's security forces against Emperor Trioculus and his Stormtroopers, capturing the Emperor, and would shortly after lead an attack on Trioculus' factory where Leia was being held prisoner and destroy it. Since Leia escaped just barely in time, Zorba believed Leia was dead before informing Trioculus as such and freezing him in carbonite.

Shifting over to the good guys, it felt nice seeing Han throw a party at his sky house on Bespin and hanging out with Luke, Leia. and the droids. After everything they've been through, they deserve to relax and have fun. We also got to see more of Ken, and how his curiosity about driving a speeder led him to getting captured by Zorba, which then led to Trioculus meeting him while Ken was imprisoned. Their first meeting was intriguing, especially since Ken knows dangerous secrets about Trioculus that makes him a threat to the Emperor's rule. Ironically, the fact Ken was Zorba's prisoner meant Trioculus couldn't just simply kill him as that would lead to Zorba getting angry and asking too many awkward questions.

Luke being Ken's guardian was a nice touch. I haven't finished the whole series, but it would be nice to see Luke training Ken in the ways of the Jedi. Especially since one idea I had for a Jedi Prince rewrite is to have Luke train Ken because he learned from his mistake of not training Flint, another young man who could use the Force, since Luke's refusal to train Flint as a Jedi led to the latter falling to the dark side.

All in all, what makes the third Jedi Prince book memorable is Zorba the Hutt, the main villain. He is distinct from other Hutts and I look forward to seeing more of him, Trioculus, and Ken.

u/Dragonic_Overlord_ — 18 days ago

My take on the Assertor's origin, inspired by Ansel Hsiao.

Ansel Hsiao, the Assertor's creator, based the design on a real life antecedent. The US Senator Benjamin Tillman, tired of the the US navy's practice of annually requesting slightly bigger battleships, simply told them to design "maximum battleships", the biggest possibile battleships limited only by their ability to cross the Panama Canal.

"Less dark-side temple and terror weapon, more optimized for basic, 'conventional' fleet work against a growing New Republic."

―Ansel Hsiao on the Assertor, Star Wars Insider #134

As such, my take on the Star Wars equivalent of this would be if Lira Wessex, one of Kuat Drive Yards' best engineers, got exasperated with the Imperial Navy asking her to build slightly bigger Star Destroyers each year and asked the Empire to just let her build the biggest battleship they could possibly conceive of that was limited only by their hyperdrive.

The Executor was designed for terror styling and to intimidate people, while the Assertor would be meant for conventional combat, especially after Yavin where the Rebels proved themselves a legitimate threat and were launching the Mid Rim Offensive. Which leads me to theorize the Assertor lead ship and the Wrath, another Assertor, took part in the MRO. Lira most likely reused some of her Executor notes and research when designing the Assertor, if she was assigned the task of building it.

u/Dragonic_Overlord_ — 23 days ago

My thoughts on Star Wars: The Jedi Prince: The Lost City of the Jedi.

To start with, my favourite chapter was Trioculus' meeting with the false Kadann at Scardia Station. It was packed full of political intrigue and worldbuilding, just like the Mofference from Episode 4, and I found the false Kadann's use of crushing his colored chalk balls to emphasize his point a cool detail for his character.

I also sympathized with Ken and his longing to see the outside world beyond the borders of the Lost City of the Jedi. Had the Jedi Prince series been released later, the Lost City could have been changed to the Valley of the Jedi instead. Ken growing up on Ruusan instead of Yavin IV would have given him a stronger reason to see the outside world, since what we saw of Ruusan in the Dark Forces 2 video game appeared to be a rocky and almost barren world. The fact Jerec and his forces subjugated Ruusan in their quest to find the Valley would give Ken another good reason to join Luke Skywalker and his friends: to avenge everyone he knew and lost to the Imperials.

Baji the Ho'Din healer was a delight to read thanks to his rhymes, and he was very wise and insightful. One rewrite I had in mind for his character was to make him a healer who was working for the Rebels before they became the New Republic, and he was assigned to Yavin IV when the NR decided to reuse some of their old Rebel bases after Endor due to the Empire falling apart during that time.

I also liked how Trioculus paid the price for burning Yavin IV's forests in his attempt to find the Lost City. His eagerness to find it almost cost him the cure for his blindness when his own Imperial forces burned down Baji's hut filled with the rare plant seeds that could help him. The fact Vader's Glove was responsible for blinding Trioculus is a good metaphor for how his ambition has blinded him.

All in all, I liked reading The Lost City of the Jedi, and I look forward to finishing the series.

u/Dragonic_Overlord_ — 25 days ago

Would it be a good idea to give the Victory I Star Destroyer the Tector treatment to maximise firepower?

Since the Victory Star Destroyer has a small hangar, might as well armor up that section and devote that space to more reactors to power more guns.

u/Dragonic_Overlord_ — 1 month ago
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A look into the Executor's production history.

In Legends, Imperial Senate opposed Palpatine's construction of the first 4 Executor-class Star Destroyers: Executor (lead ship), Reaper, Aggressor, and Brawl. To the very last, the minority of Senators who still opposed Palpatine used the few political tools they had left such as budget oversight to impede Palpatine, who also had to slip the class past the Senate's various oversight committees.

To conceal the Executor's specifications from those who opposed it, the Navy referred to it as the Super-class Star Destroyer, which led to them being called Super Star Destroyers, in budget reports submitted to the Senate, and its true length of 19km was understated by many kilometers. In Imperial scandocs, the Executor's length was listed at 8km or 12.8km before the true details of the class came to light.

The Executor had a sister ship, the Lusankya, which was being constructed at Kuat Drive Yards and was secretly the second ship of the Executor line while Executor herself was built at Fondor. With both ships named Executor by the Empire to get away with claiming the lead ship was being built at both shipyards. Plus, the Empire attributed all expenses of the sister ship to the Executor to hide the existence of a second Super Star Destroyer from the galaxy at large. In this way, both KDY and Fondor laid claim to having built the Executor lead ship.

However, Fondor had to put several civilian contracts on hold when the Empire closed off all nonmilitary traffic to the Fondor system to build the Executor, demanding total secrecy*.* The Fondor executives were enraged, though they dare not test Vader's temper, especially since the massive project took up virtually all of their resources. While Fondor lost access to their most valuable civilian contracts, they reasoned that, if they met the Empire's expectations, they could steal lucrative military contracts from their KDY rivals.

Unfortunately, the fact Fondor was awarded the contract to build the Executor lead ship meant KDY was free to build the Lusankya. Worse, KDY ensured that all future Executors would bear their logo to steal future design grants from their rivals, further angering Fondor.

After Yavin, the schedule for the construction of the Executors was accelerated to compensate for the Death Star's loss since the Empire needed a new symbol of terror quickly. While Kuat Drive Yards was the main producer of the Executor, Fondor remained an alternative construction site. Any Executors who finished construction there were sent to Fondor for finishing touches, especially since KDY had a limited number of slipways that could support a ship the size of an Executor.

Vader received the completed Executor half a year after Yavin while the second SSD, then known as Executor II, was finished shortly afterwards, was named Lusankya, and sent to Coruscant where the Emperor buried it underneath the cityscape to hide as an emergency escape ship in case he ever lost control of Coruscant.

I theorize the Empire's accelerated schedule gave Fondor the opportunity to bargain with the Empire: help us upgrade our shipyards to handle both civilian contracts and build Executors, and we will build more Executors for you. Normally, the Empire wouldn't have agreed to such a deal, but the need to pump out as many Executors as possible, would have caused the Empire to agree to Fondor's terms.

Speaking of which, I also theorize the Empire outsourced building Executors to other major shipyards like Yaga Minor, Sluis Van, SoroSuub, Corellia etc. to meet the new deadlines for new Executors. It would also explain how the Empire was able to build so many of these ships in the 4 year time frame between the Battles of Yavin and Endor. Plus, KDY already subcontracted other places like Corellia to build the Imperial Star Destroyer, so I see no reason why they couldn't have done the same with the Executor.

In short, the history behind the Executor's construction is fascinating as it is intriguing.

u/Dragonic_Overlord_ — 1 month ago
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The Imperial Senate had more power than you might think.

A common perception people have of the Imperial Senate under Emperor Palpatine's rule is that they were powerless because Palpatine was a tyrant who had the final say on how to govern the Empire. While that was true to an extent, the Emperor's authoritarian control did not emerge overnight. It came about through a gradual process of the Empire tightening its control over the galaxy while slowly stripping away power from the Senate over the years and placing it in the hands of the various Moffs and regional governors who were actually running the show.

But in the Empire's early years, it still needed the Senate to at least maintain the illusion of democracy to avoid the transition from the Old Republic to the Galactic Empire from being too dramatic for the galactic populace. To that end, keeping the Senate around provided a familiar symbol for the Senators since it fostered the belief they could still make a change, even as the Empire began to grow in power.

While the Senate did slowly lose most of its power over the next 19 years until it became an empty shell of its former self before being disbanded, there were instances that proved it still held more power than you might think.

To start with, Senator Mon Mothma of Chandrila boldly denounced the Empire's role in the Ghorman Massacre before painting Palpatine as a monster. The fact the Empire tried so hard to shut down her speech on the Senate floor before sending two Imperial Star Destroyers and Grand Admiral Thrawn's prototype TIE Defender to hunt her down after she escaped Coruscant shows how scared the Empire is of the possibility she could have rallied resistance against them with her scathing condemnation of their atrocity. As well as how brittle Imperial authority really is.

At Jedha, the Death Star fired its superlaser at the moon's holy city to make a statement to discourage more systems from joining the Rebel Alliance, as well as to eliminate a traitor to the Empire who could compromise the Death Star's existence. The Empire's official cover story to the Senate is that Jedha was damaged in a mining incident. If the Senate was truly powerless, why lie to them?

The destruction of the holy city of Jedha would have caused an outrage within the Senate, particularly since the Empire wasn't quite ready to reveal the Death Star's existence just yet since they had a traitor loose who could expose it prematurely. Which could cause political complications for the Empire down the line. Hence, why Vader told Krennic that, as far as they were concerned, there is no Death Star.

Another example took place after Darth Vader captured Princess Leia aboard the Tantive IV when she escaped with the Death Star plans after the Battle of Scarif. Leia threatened Vader by warning him that the Imperial Senate wouldn't stand for his attack on her vessel. Captain Raymus Antilles even told Vader the Tantive IV was a Consular vessel and they were on a diplomatic mission shortly before Vader killed him.

When Leia recounted this story to the historian Beaumont Kin decades later, he learned something important from it: if you're going to threaten Darth Vader, it must be with something he is scared of. The Imperial officer Daine Jir even warned Vader that holding Leia prisoner is dangerous because if word of her imprisonement got leaked, it would generate sympathy for her in the Senate. The fact Vader later claimed the Tantive IV was destroyed in a meteor collision with the loss of all hands proves he was wary of the Senate discovering the truth of his illegal attack on a vessel that had diplomatic immunity.

In short, while Palpatine did his best to render the Senate powerless, it was not a process that could be done overnight. And in the time between the Declaration of a New Order and the Senate's ultimate dissolution, the Imperial Senate had the potential to cause many problems for Emperor Palpatine.

u/Dragonic_Overlord_ — 1 month ago

A glimpse into the Empire's military spending.

The Empire was infamous for its hyper militarization. To keep it simple, I'm only going to account for the Empire's military spending up to 0 BBY to 4 ABY, because that's when the Empire was probably at its peak. To give you an idea of how expensive its military spending was, here's a glimpse:

1x Death Star: 1,500,000,000,000 credits.

4x Executor-class Super Star Destroyers (Executor, Brawl, Aggressor, Reaper): 4,573,400,000 credits (1,143,350,000 credits per ship).

25,000x Imperial-class Star Destroyers: 375,000,000,000,0 credits (150,000,000 credits per ship).

Total budget: 5,254,573,400,000 credits

And this is probably less than a percent of the Empire's overall budget. Even as early as 19 BBY, Mon Mothma noted half the budget was being spent on these enormous new Star Destroyers. And this is not accounting for all the various other ships, secret projects, and superweapons Palpatine was developing in secret. Not to mention Palpatine was obsessed with immortality and would have spared no expense achieving this goal, with Byss (Legends) and Exegol (Canon) as prime examples of how much effort Palpatine placed in this endeavor. In both instances, Byss and Exegol formed the foundation for a new Empire, meaning Palpatine would have invested an unfathomable amount of credits towards both planets to develop the infrastructure needed to revive the Empire.

In short, the Empire's infamous spending on its military instead of the poor was a hallmark of its tyrannical rule.

u/Dragonic_Overlord_ — 2 months ago

If Grunger had lived, would he really let Trioculus take the SSD Aggressor as his flagship?

Instead of attacking Corellia after seizing the SSD Aggressor, Grunger joins Trioculus without waiting for him to gain the Dark Blessing. Trioculus would definitely try to take Aggressor as his flagship, but would Grunger allow it? He is a prideful man and might not stand taking orders from someone else, though Trioculus claiming to be Palpatine's son does give Grunger a good reason to follow him.

u/Dragonic_Overlord_ — 2 months ago

Imagine how chaotic the Battle of Endor would have been if Palpatine brought all of his Grand Admirals with him.

Here's what the Grand Admirals will do after Palpatine dies and the Death Star 2 blows up:

  1. Nial Declann: died aboard Death Star 2.

  2. Afsheen Makati: fled Endor.

  3. Miltin Takel: fled Endor.

  4. Osvald Teshik: tried to rally the fleet, but Pellaeon fled with the fleet due to a breakdown in communications, so he didn't know he was still alive, leaving Teshik alone to fight the whole Rebel fleet for four hours.

  5. Josef Grunger: would stay and fight.

  6. Danetta Pitta: would stay and fight.

  7. Ishin-Il-Raz: would flee Endor due to lack of combat experience.

  8. Peccati Syn: would stay and fight.

  9. Rufaan Tigellinus: would dismiss the Rebels as a threat and leave Endor out of arrogance.

  10. Martio Batch: would flee the battle because he has terrible leadership and combat skills.

  11. Octavian Grant: would flee Endor out of cowardice.

  12. Thrawn: would stay and fight.

  13. Demetrius Zaarin: already dead.

  14. Balanhai Savit: already dead.

  15. Rae Sloane: not a Grand Admiral yet.

Out of the 12 Grand Admirals, and 2 dead ones, only 5 would stay, Grunger, Syn, Thrawn, Pitta, and Teshik, but these 5 are among the most skilled in the Empire. With the other 4 Grand Admirals presents, Teshik successfully rallies the Imperial fleet and they stay. While they would most certainly crush the Rebels, the real problem lies in the aftermath.

Pitta and Grunger would turn on each other immediately and ignore Teshik, Thrawn and Syn's attempts to keep the Imperial fleet together. Leading to more death and chaos, with possibly one or two more Grand Admirals dying in the process. If Thrawn dies, then the Empire is further doomed.

Grant still joins the Pentastar Alignment, Batch gets murdered by his own crew when they mutiny, II-Raz commits suicide out of depression over Palpatine's death, Tigellinus and Takel still get killed by the Central Committee of Grand Moffs, Syn either dies at Endor or Kashyyyk to Ackbar or Pitta and Grunger’s feud, and Makati dies holding onto the Corporate Sector Authority for the Empire.

But if Teshik survives and escapes Endor, he can rally Azure Hammer Command and the Empire under his banner and keep things spiralling out of control, making the war significantly more difficult for the nascent New Republic.

However, Gallius Rax will see Teshik and the other Grand Admirals as serious rivals for the throne. He can't promote Sloane to Grand Admiral either because that will raise serious questions from Thrawn, if he survives, and the other Grand Admirals as to why Sloane promoted herself.

Either way, with all of Palpatine's Grand Admirals at Endor, it's going to be a chaotically epic battle.

u/Dragonic_Overlord_ — 2 months ago
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If you could buy one artefact from any era of Star Wars, Legends or Canon, from Luthen Rael's shop, what would you pick?

u/Dragonic_Overlord_ — 2 months ago

If Grand Admiral Danetta Pitta lived, what would his impact be on the Galactic Civil War?

In this scenario, Pitta manages to destroy the SSD Aggressor in time before Grunger rams it into his Torpedo Sphere. While we don't get exact casualty counts for either Pitta or Grunger’s side during the Battle of Tralus, 5 ABY, I theorize Pitta must have destroyed most of Grunger’s forces in addition to heavily damaging his flagship Aggressor to win. In pushing Grunger to the edge, he wounded his pride and made him both angry and desperate enough to avoid capitulating to Pitta. Otherwise, Grunger wouldn't have opted for a kamikaze attack.

Before the Battle of Tralus, Corellia possessed 25 Star Destroyers and was initially commanded by Admiral Jaeffis before being reinforced by Admiral Roek and his flagship Aggressor along with his 5x Star Destroyers, who were recalled from their patrols in the Inner Rim to defend Corellia. However, Grunger would hijack the Aggressor, and most likely its Star Destroyer escorts too, and add them to his armada.

During the Battle of Tralus, Grunger’s armada comprised the Aggressor, 30x Imperial Star Destroyers, 30x Victory Star Destroyers, 60x Strike cruisers, 100x Carrack cruisers, an unknown number of smaller ships, and numerous TIE fighters.

With Pitta victorious, it's fairly likely he didn't lose too many of his own ships fighting Grunger. If there are any survivors from his rival's armada, he should have no trouble persuading them to join his side, especially if the alternative is to finish what he started. This should give Pitta anywhere between 20-30x Star Destroyers and a dozen cruisers in addition to his Torpedo Sphere. A formidable force, though I lowballed it since only a few survivors from Grunger’s armada would remain alive and Pitta himself should have suffered his fair share of losses, so it all balances out.

Plus, as the unofficial protector of Corellia, Pitta has access to Corellia's shipyards, which are among the best in the galaxy and rivalled only by the likes of Kuat, Fondor, and Rendili. Corellia is also renowned for producing some of the fastest Imperial Star Destroyers, both at sublight and hyperspace speeds, which gives Pitta a major advantage in warfare. Not only will the Grand Admiral be able to repair his fleet, he can also increase its strength by building more Star Destroyers and other vessels like anti-pirate starfighters and Gunships by the Corellian Engineering Corporation (CEC), and CR70 and CR90 corvettes to supplement his capital warships.

The cut content for Dirty Dozen: The Imperial Grand Admirals stated Pitta's original flagship was the ISD Impenetrable. The ship's name, combined with the fact Pitta defeated Grunger using a Torpedo Sphere, implies he is skilled at defensive warfare. The article stated the Torpedo Sphere that Pitta commandeered was also built at the Corellian shipyards, showing how good Corellia's shipyards are if they can construct a vessel massive enough to be seen as a mini Death Star.

That same article also established that Pitta built his own Warlord kingdom in Hutt Space after Palpatine's death at Endor, implying he had dealings with the Hutt Cartel. Half the reason why Pitta moved his holdings to the Corellian sector was due to Ysanne Isard's hold on Coruscant, so he was effectively a Warlord in all but name.

While Pitta's power base made him wealthy, the Dirty Dozen article added he also plundered the Outer Rim while "pacifying" it for the Empire. He did this by sterilising or exterminating its alien populations using his three Imperial dungeon ships: the Apocahk, the Angrix, and the Azgoghk. Worse, he would even perform vivsection on his alien captives.

In short, Pitta has a sizable armada, the resources to maintain them, and the credits to fund his ambitions. The Dirty Dozen article established he dreamed of using his prison ships to eliminate Corellia's alien populations - the Dralls, Selonians, and the Nosaurians. And I have no doubt that's exactly what he would have done had he survived Tralus.

Pitta became Corellia's protector after bribing Daclif Gallamby, the Diktat - the Corellian Chief of State - to let him achieve that role. Despite Gallamby's position, he was merely an Imperial puppet and ruled Corellia harshly by implementing restrictions on the freedom of Corellia's people, and encouraging isolationism, distrust, and fear of outsiders. Gallamby also restricted trade and traffic throughout the entire sector, making life difficult for people under his rule and causing the Corellian economy's collapse.

Unsurprisingly, Gallamby was very unpopular with his people. I have no doubt he would have allowed Pitta to depopulate, exterminate, and enslave Corellia's alien natives to cement his rule, except the aliens all have a history of resistance to oppression. The Dralls and the Selonians fought against the Sith Empire's occupation of Corellia during the Galactic War, and the Nosaurians fought for the Separatists during the Clone Wars, so they won't bow before Pitta without a fight.

Plus, the Corellian Security Force, or CorSec, were secretly Rebel sympathisers, so they would definitely aid Corellia's aliens against Imperial oppression. Especially since the Empire took away resources from Corellia's security to fight the Rebels, which led to a rise in piracy and made CorSec's job more difficult. Regardless of whether CorSec is caught aiding the aliens or not, Gallamby would dissolve the organization and replace it with the pro-Diktat Public Safety Service two years earlier than he did in the OG timeline.

Also, Pitta would have another rival besides Grunger to contend with. Naomi Dargon is the Grand Moff of the Corellian sector and in charge of the Corellian Defence Force. Plus, she was skilled in management, good at military tactics, and possessed strong political connections, most likely thanks to her family's background of being Coruscanti industrialists. She cemented her role as Grand Moff by not engaging in criminal activity, avoiding Black Sun, and crushing sedition against her or the Empire. She also favoured manipulation tactics, as she liked playing the various factions of the Corellian sector against each other.

Like Pitta, Dargon was ruthless and carried out the Devastation of Froz when she bombarded the planet for supporting the Rebels.

Unlike Pitta, Dargon was a Palpatine loyalist, which was half the reason why she became a Grand Moff. And she would not take kindly to a Grand Admiral usurping her position as head of the Corellian sector by claiming to be its protector. Especially since the Aggressor would have fallen under her jurisdiction, and she would be mad she didn't get an SSD as her flagship.

But Dargon isn't stupid enough to fight Pitta head on when he already defeated another Grand Admiral in open warfare. So I think it's more likely she would secretly fund the Corellian resistance to Pitta and the Diktat, then wipe out all parties when they're weakened to eliminate all rivals to her rule.

As Grand Moff, Dargon would control the Imperial 2nd Sector Army, Green Mantle Command, and use them to fortify her holdings in anticipation of an inevitable confrontation with Pitta. She could try contacting Azure Hammer Command for help; Admiral Feyet Kiez is implied to be a Palpatine loyalist like Dargon, so that's a good reason to aid her, though he would be reluctant to risk the SSD Whelm against Pitta out of fear he might destroy it too.

Since Corellia only joined the New Republic in 12 ABY, that means there's not much they can do to aid the Corellian resistance against Pitta's oppression since Corellia was an Imperial fortress world. Using Corellia as his base of operations, Pitta would move from subjugating Corellia's aliens to other worlds in the Core to target their alien populations too.

However, the New Republic was assassinating Grand Admirals during the early Post-Endor years like Peccati Syn, so I have no doubt they would make Pitta a priority target. Rogue Squadron successfully infiltrated Corellia in 4 ABY to rescue Fyric Fel, who got kidnapped by an Imperial sympathiser, so it's a certainty that the New Republic can sneak agents into Corellia again to assassinate Pitta.

But if Pitta does survive an assassination attempt on him, and he finds out it was the New Republic, he will strike back against them, and the NR will suddenly find themselves at war against Corellia. Depending on when this occurs, this means the Liberation of Coruscant, which occurred in 7 ABY, gets postponed to later in the timeline as the New Republic fights off Pitta. Historically, the NR already conquered Brentaal IV at this point, so they would turn it into a fortress world to fight off Pitta.

But with Pitta distracted fighting the NR, it gives Dargon a chance to seize back control of Corellia. She assassinates Gallamby and bombards Corellia using her fleet to wipe out the Corellian resistance while sending in the 2nd to impose martial law upon the surviving populace.

Worse for Pitta, the NR would have studied the Battle of Tralus to avoid making Grunger’s mistakes, using masses starfighter attacks to avoid the Torpedo Sphere's torpedos and destroy his flagship via death by a thousand cuts. Pitta dies along with his flagship when it explodes, his death coming about by the hand of multiple alien pilots.

Afterwards, the NR takes time to lick their wounds before they can resume their march to Coruscant. But when they do, they resolve to free Corellia from Imperial tyranny for good.

u/Dragonic_Overlord_ — 2 months ago

I get the feeling Thrawn's campaign in Ahsoka S2 will be more devastating than his Legends one.

The reason for this is that The Last War Against the Galactic Empire: On Deployment with the New Republic Fleet, an in-universe book written by Chalm Plesk, a historian from the University of Coruscant, details Thrawn's campaign. Yet military figures within the Republic blocked its publication, implying that Thrawn's campaign was so horrific and embarrassing for the NR they refused to let the details become public.

To be fair to the NR, Plesk was embedded with the New Republic fleet while it was fighting against the Imperial Remnant in 9 ABY, so it's possible he might have been contractually obligated not to publicize certain details of the Thrawn campaign. However, Plesk went to Hosnian Prime to plead his case to get the book published before the Senate and died in the subsequent Hosnian Cataclysm, which took place in 34 ABY.

This means New Republic military figures spent twenty-five years preventing Plesk from publishing his book on the Thrawn campaign. Which leads me to believe that, whatever Thrawn did during his war against the New Republic, was so bad the New Republic refused to let the rest of the galaxy know about it. And with Nightsisters involved, the NR might actually have a good reason to cover up the campaign.

The Ahsoka S2 trailer depicted Thrawn using Nightsisters for his boarding parties on warships, so one can imagine the horror stories NR officers would have of barely surviving a Nightsister attack. Especially since it's only been five years since Vader died, so tales of Vader doing things no human should be capable of to execute his atrocities would still be fresh in everyone's minds. And with Thrawn aligned with the Three Mothers, there is no telling what other eldritch horrors he would be willing to unleash against the NR, since he is ruthless enough to do whatever it takes to win.

We also saw Ezra fighting against Nightsister forces, so it's highly likely an NR invasion on Dathomir will occur with Ezra leading the charge. Unfortunately, it wouldn't be the first time a potent military force lost to a band of technologically backwards natives on their home turf, so the battle of Dathomir might play out as a reverse Endor, with the NR sustaining massive casualties and the survivors being extremely traumatized by the Nightsister's Magick attacks. And that's not accounting for the fact that, in Legends, Nightsisters rode rancors, so there is nothing to suggest they won't use them against the NR military either.

In short, Thrawn's campaign in Ahsoka S2 might just prove to be more horrific than his Legends counterpart.

u/Dragonic_Overlord_ — 2 months ago

What if Kuat was ready for Zsinj?

During Zsinj's campaign in 7 ABY, he made a daring raid to steal the Executor SSD Razor's Kiss at Kuat Drive Yards (KDY). He succeeded, but a subsequent battle with the New Republic resulted in the Razor's destruction.

Zsinj's theft caught KDY by surprise. But had they been prepared, I believe things would have turned out quite differently.

To start with, KDY had a habit of sending their Executors to Fondor mostly completed for finishing touches since they possessed a limited number of slipways that could hold an Executor. The Razor's Kiss was no exception. As such, it's safe to say the vessel was more or less combat ready. Since KDY was still an Imperial loyalist world, if they had learned about Zsinj's plans beforehand, the Empire would have sent Admiral Teren Rogriss to take charge of KDY's defence fleet to stop Zsinj.

Speaking of KDY's defence fleet, they possessed 15 Star Destroyers, including the Mauler and Gilded Claw, as well as Interdictor cruisers at the planets Renegg and Venir, which served as staging ports for freighters leaving Kuat Frieght Port. The Empire became nervous about Rebel raids in the lead up to Yavin and stationed ships like the ISD Tyranny near Kuat as a rapid response force.

At the Taking of Kuat, 8.5 ABY, Rogriss defended KDY using the Star Dreadnought Aurora and the 3 Battlecruisers Luminous, Stellar Halo, and Event Horizon, along with at least 4 Star Destroyers. While the 4 Destroyers were probably part of KDY's original 15 Destroyers, the fact neither the Aurora nor the other 3 Battlecruisers protected KDY from Zsinj implies they must have been built after his theft.

Despite this, Admiral Rogriss with the Razor's Kiss as his flagship, 15 Destroyers plus his own ISD Agonizer, the Tyranny and other Imperial rapid response ships, and the Interdictor cruisers would make a formidable force opposing Zsinj.

By contrast, Zsinj was only bringing his flagship Iron Fist, another Executor, the ISD III Wind, the Interdictor cruiser Emperor's Net, 4 Carrack cruisers, an unknown number of corvettes and cargo vessels, and several pirate groups. Along with the impostor 181st Imperial Fighter Group led by actor Tetran Cowall posing as the Baron Soontir Fel, Commander of the actual 181st.

The pirate groups Zsinj hired included Vibroaxe Squadron, who appeared to be ground pounders based on the fact they took great losses in heavy vehicle and personnel during Zsinj's theft in the OG timeline, and the Hawk-bat Independent Space Force, secretly Wraith Squadron in disguise.

If Rogriss keeps the fact KDY learned of Zsinj's plan a secret, and if Zsinj carries out his plans like in the OG timeline, then the Warlord is in for a rude surprise.

Unfortunately, Shalla Nelprin, a Wraith, and her crew of specialists would end up captured by Rogriss while trying to infiltrate the Razor's Kiss for Zsinj. Since Rogriss is honorable, he will treat them fairly as prisoners of war and keep them secure. Though I doubt Nelprin would tell Rogriss she is actually a New Republic agent because that would make things worse for her.

In the OG timeline, Zsinj only showed up at KDY after Nelprin and her team seized control of the Razor's Kiss using a special program that allowed them to control the SSD with only 9 people. If Nelprin and her team don't report in, he will get suspicious something has gone wrong. But on the other hand, he has already devoted too much time and effort to this operation to back out, and Zsinj's pride and ambition means he will go ahead with the mission.

Instead of finding the Razor's Kiss empty, it's fully crewed by Rogriss and ready to fight. With Zsinj and his meager fleet trapped by KDY's Interdictors and Rogriss' fleet, Rogriss would offer Zsinj a chance to surrender.

Zsinj isn't above escaping if it means surviving to fight another day, so he would refuse to surrender and order his ships to destroy Rogriss' Interdictors so he can flee, realising Rogriss has outplayed him. Zsinj would eventually destroy the Interdictors, possibly even defeating the Gilded Claw and the Mauler like in the OG timeline, though Zsinj would probably destroy the Agonizer too just to spite Rogriss. Iron Fist would also suffer heavy damage from the Razor's Kiss and Rogriss' fleet, with Zsinj losing his support ships and using the pirates as meat shields, before finally escaping.

u/Dragonic_Overlord_ — 2 months ago
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The Barsen'thor's power base is underrated.

Note: Since I play a female Consular, I refer to them in this post as "She" and "Her" because those are the pronouns I'm used to.

To start with, the Barsen'thor gained the friendship of House Teral of Alderaan, and can even be made a Lord should she get one of House Teral's rival Houses exiled. Most importantly, the Barsen'thor led the Rift Alliance, which controlled the Republic's most critical infrastructure such as resources, armies, and trade centers. Had the Alliance successfully seceded from the Republic, it would have spelled the latter's death knell, so the fact the Barsen'thor is friends with the Representatives of the Rift Alliance's worlds - Saleucami, Aeten II, Manaan, Erigorm, Balmorra, and Sarkhai - gives them significant political power. The fact the Barsen'thor saved the Rift Alliance's lives aboard the Fortitude from an Imperial assault means they're indebted to her.

Saleucami is a trade hub, Aeten II produces lightsaber crystals and vital ores for fleet construction, Manaan is the only source of the miraculous healing fluid kolto, Erigorm administered the Republic's finances for centuries, and Balmorra is a manufacturer of battle droids. The Barsen'thor's Padawan, Nadia Grell, also became Senator of Sarkhai, a planet newly introduced to the galaxy, and even saved the King and Queen of Sarkhai. Again, this would mean Sarkhai's royals are indebted to her.

Since the Rift Alliance also had the Coalition Forces and its own fleet, that gives the Barsen'thor hard military power. In addition, the Barsen'thor has Balmorra's droid armies, the Esh-kha soldiers, and Gaden-Ko's entourage of Voss Commandos, interpreters, and healers, furthering their military might.

On Quesh, the Rift Alliance ran a secret research station where the Barsen'thor can decide whether to focus on either weapons or medicine after saving the place from an Imperial attack. Either of which would benefit the Alliance.

On Hoth, the Barsen'thor helped Lt. Felix Iresso and the Coalition Forces defeat Captain Valon, a White Maw pirate who seemed unbeatable thanks to experimental healing armor he stole from the Empire. Valon was harassing trade routes important to the Rift Alliance before finally being defeated by them. He tried to weasel his way out of facing justice by offering a deal: he would fight for the Rift Alliance by attacking the Empire instead.

However, the Consular rejected that idea since Valon's ambition made him too dangerous to be trusted. Plus, there's nothing stopping the Barsen'thor from installing a trustworthy Alliance officer in Valon's place and fighting the Empire for them without the fear of betrayal.

In short, the Barsen'thor's power base is very underrated, for at the end of their Class Story they hold a lot of political and military power. Fitting, since they're the light side counterpart to Darth Nox.

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u/Dragonic_Overlord_ — 2 months ago

To celebrate the fact we can add pics to our comments, let's share pics of ships aura farming.

Infinities: The Jedi Order was able to foil a massive plot by the Sith to overthrow the Republic. Deposed Chancellor Palpatine, who secretly operated as Darth Sidious was able to escape capture. With the help of CIS forces and Sith Acolytes, he was able prolong the galaxy-wide Clone Wars.

Today, the conflict continues to rage with the looming threat of a CIS superweapon called the "Death Star". A special Republic Task force, led by Anakin Skywalker's famed Open Circle Fleet aims to combat this threat.

Link: https://www.deviantart.com/jetfreak-7/art/Republic-Sovereignty-264380531

u/Dragonic_Overlord_ — 2 months ago