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What is the meaning of the The New Jedi Order books?

I know that the events of the books very generally are that of the invasion of an extra galactic species called the Yuuzhan Vong that utilize organic technology and are not a part of the Force. For me, the reason star wars has stuck with me for so long are the themes of the story that resonate with me and culture.

  • The original trilogy is about oppressed people fighting back against a tyrannical imperial force overcoming their technological superiority to attain freedom.
  • The Prequels were about an opportunist taking advantage of turbulent times to convince a democracy to surrender liberty.

But when I look up information on The New Jedi Order books all I can find are people explaining what world ships are or how the Empire would fight off the Yuuzhan Vong and I want to give the benefit of the doubt that these books are about more than just just "we must defeat the scary other that has invaded" or god forbid "maybe Palpatine was right"

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u/the_real_Kth-77 — 3 days ago
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Some Mandalorian crusaders I'm working on.

If you remember my old republic, mocs. here's my progress on my minifigs I'm working on to go with em. I'm planning to have at least 20 total when I'm done. I figured someone here would enjoy. 20 points if you can name any of the mandos seen here..

u/NoCupcake5122 — 4 days ago
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Author Rebecca Moesta talks about writing 'Young Jedi Knights,' characterizing Tenel Ka and the Solo twins, and putting together 'Junior Jedi Knights'

u/xezene — 8 days ago
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Thrawn is NOT a great strategist

Operational Artist, not a Strategist.

Okay, before you all come at me with torches and pitchforks, let me say that I love Thrawn in both Legends and canon. However, while he has demonstrated truly amazing tactical and operational skill—arguably at a genius level—I don't think he's actually a great strategist.

First, let's distinguish between tactics, operations, and strategy.

Tactics is how you win the immediate fight. Here, Thrawn is pretty dang close to perfect. He wins just about every fleet engagement he's involved in, often against considerable disadvantages. No argument from me: the man is a tactical genius.

Operations is how you connect individual battles and other military actions so that they achieve a larger military objective. This is where things like logistics, tempo, concentration of force, maneuver, reserves, intelligence, and deception come into play. Once again, Thrawn is brilliant. His campaign against the New Republic demonstrates an extraordinary ability to make limited Imperial resources achieve disproportionate results. He consistently creates situations in which the New Republic has to react to him rather than the other way around.

Strategy, however, is about using military power to accomplish political objectives.

And this is where I have questions.

By the end of the Thrawn Trilogy, I still don't see a convincing path from "Thrawn keeps winning battles" to "the New Republic is destroyed."

Let's assume Thrawn isn't killed by Rukh at Bilbringi. Let's go even further and assume that he wins the battle. What happens next?

The New Republic has started figuring him out. He's lost Joruus C'baoth and therefore his Force-assisted coordination advantage. He's lost Delta Source. Admiral Ackbar is back in command, and the political divisions Thrawn exploited are beginning to heal. The New Republic now knows exactly what kind of threat it's facing.

Yes, more Imperial warlords might start joining Thrawn after further victories. But that creates another problem: Thrawn can't be everywhere, and let's be honest, most of the Imperial warlords can't be trusted any farther than C-3PO can throw them. Giving Thrawn more ships commanded by unreliable, ambitious subordinates doesn't necessarily solve his fundamental problem.

And that's the part of his strategy that I don't understand.

What is Thrawn's actual theory of victory?

Winning more battles isn't a theory of victory by itself. Taking more systems isn't necessarily one either. How does Thrawn turn those victories into the collapse of the New Republic as a political entity? Does he intend to capture Coruscant? Force the Republic to negotiate? Trigger enough political fragmentation that member worlds secede? Destroy the New Republic military until the government becomes indefensible? Reconstitute enough of the Empire that worlds begin defecting voluntarily?

Maybe there is an answer, but I don't think the Thrawn Trilogy ever gives us a particularly convincing one.

So my argument isn't that Thrawn is overrated as a military commander. Quite the opposite. I think he's one of the best tactical and operational commanders in Star Wars.

I'm just not convinced he's a great strategist.

He knows how to win battles. He knows how to run a campaign.

I'm not sure he ever demonstrates how those victories are supposed to win the war.

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u/Lumpy-Quantity-8151 — 7 days ago
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Star Wars - Mara Jade by Scott Dalrymple

Merry Mara Monday

u/T-o-C-A — 10 days ago

I love how the 2003 Clone Wars portrayed the Separatists. They actually felt like a serious threat, and the droids were intimidating.

u/No_Young_2247 — 11 days ago

Were there times when the Stormtroopers are shown being competent in both Disney and Legend Canon?

We all heard how terrible they are but how about the reverse in both media?

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u/InstructionHumble913 — 10 days ago

A pair BX-series droid commandos partaking in the Retaking of Muunilinst during the late stages of the Clone Wars (19 BBY)

I'm sure everyone knows about the Battle of Muunilinst featured in CW 03 that took place in early 22 BBY and whose outcome was an early decisive Republic victory.

However, as the war dragged on into its final year, the Republic's military resources became heavily strained and spread thin across the galaxy during the Outer Rim Sieges.

According to The Essential Guide to Warfare, the Separatists took advantage of these weakened defenses and launched a massive counter-invasion on this hihgly strategical planet.

The Republic garrison was overwhelmed, and the planet fell back into Separatist hands.

u/Tjfile — 11 days ago

Jacen Solo's vision of the future, which involved Darth Krayt, also included his daughter Allana Solo, but why include her in the first place if she appears nowhere in the Legacy series?

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u/Many-Marionberry8605 — 11 days ago

Quel est le lien de filiation d’Ania Solo ?

Je crois que c’est l’un de mystère favoris. De qui descend Ania Solo ? De Jacen via Allana ? D’un enfant solo tardif entre Han et Leia ? Ou encore est-elle apparentée à un autre membre de la ligne Solo ?
Merci par avance pour vos réponses.

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u/sislly78 — 10 days ago

First acquisition

Just picked up the Star Wars Legends: The Genesis of the Jedi. After reading all of Legends digitally, I couldn't resist getting my favorites in print. Consider it a mandatory second read, haha.

u/roindr — 11 days ago