r/MawInstallation

Through out their history the Jedi functioned primarily as counselors, diplomats, and philosophers. Though trained in self defense with a lightsaber, they've never sought roles as military constant, much less were trained in warfare.

So with the advent of the Clone Wars, who decided leadership of the armies would fall to the Jedi? And not, say, any number of military or militia commanders that existed within the Republic? Who among the Jedi Council accepted the responsibility, or even advocated for it?

Yes, we all know *why* leadership fell to the Jedi, we know the conspiracy enacted by Palpatine. What I'm asking is, how did it practically develop?

The Republic had checks and balances that collapsed under its own complexity. The Empire eliminated corruption through fear but created systemic fragility — one death at the top and the whole thing destabilizes. Looking at actual institutional design, which one actually worked better for stability, even if you hated the ideology?

So let me explain why

The professions of agriculture, environmental care, medicine, scholarship, education and exploration as dumping ground where only "failures" go to be of "petty" use to the Jedi Order when I think it could have been a place where it is to be viewed as worthy/noble callings in their own right, equal to or greater than being a warrior.

humility is seen as a valued trait to have in the Jedi Order Yes? So it would be a good idea to let ALL padawans spend part of their time in the Corps for threefold reasons:

1.) When dealing with certain problematic (prideful) apprentices, it might be wise to let them think they "failed" their trials (even if they really passed) & send them to the Service Corps for a time. If they learned true humility in their time there, they would finally be "passed" and made a true jedi. Their period in the Corps would ultimately have served as the final part of their trials.

2.) spending enough period of time (let's say month or perhaps a year) working with the agricultural corps would allow a padawan to truly learn the amount of work and effort required to keep people fed, and the cycle of life - not just planting seeds to grow fruit and grain, but also caring for animals. Helping a cow (or whatever the SW equivalent of a cow) give birth, caring for the baby, seeing it grow, and eventually assisting with the slaughter, would teach a padawan many valuable lessons. It would teach them to care for another being, it would teach them that death is no easy matter and is sometimes a necessary thing, and it would teach them not to let their attachment to the animal cloud the need to fulfill the animal's purpose. And above all that, growing plants and raising animals to feed the others would help a padawan realize their duty as a Jedi in the great network of all life in the galaxy.

3.) Similar lessons could be learned in other fields of the Jedi service corps, by serving time in each and every one of them as they can, they'd be able to fully comprehend the importance of each one of them, widen their horizons and gain greater wisdom, as well as gain practical skills that will aid them when they become a Knight. Or, if they fail their trials, they will at least have tried out all the other "career" options and have an easier time deciding which one suits them best.

And above all, anytime spent in the Jedi Service corps could have been a crucial way for Jedi to connect with people out in the galaxy in the amount of time as medics, agriculturalists, teachers and explorers among the other non-force sensitives to dispel the stereotype that they are isolated, out-of-touch enforcers of a useless, corrupt senate that politicians only matter to them above everyone in the Galaxy.

What do you think?

I'm guessing Lucas hadn't conceived of Plageuis at the time, or Palpatine not yet being the master at the time. Retroactively establishing the latter I doubt was his idea.

But for the first question: With the film as it is, do you think that (Before it got decanonised along with all other contemporary material) enhanced the film/story or just added plot holes and unanswered questions to it?

For the second question, do you think Lucas should have conceived of him then and implement him in some way? What would you have his role be, before being murdered?

Star Wars focuses mainly on war (🤯) vehicles and I guess basic civilian speeders, so utility vehicles are mostly left to the fanon community. But even then I can’t seem to find any concepts or designs of an in universe tow truck. I imagine they’d be a thing since tugs for larger ships exist. Is there any depictions or description of them either in universe or from a fanon creator? If not what do y’all think one would look like?

Outside of planet destroying stations and orbital hazing by a fleet, what were some things that could destroy a planet? Either completely destroying it or basically making it uninhabitable. I know we’ve seen examples like their starts exploding and there’s real life examples that probably exist in universe too (meteors). But I just want to get a general sense of just how much your average planet had to worry and maybe see if there’s anything specific to the universe.

I'm curious as to how such a pay system was structured. I would imagine that the soldiers on board the Tantive IV were paid as they were still working for the Organa family in an official capacity and not "in the Rebellion" proper.

But for say, the communication officers or starfighter maintenance crews who stayed on Yavin proper, I don't see them getting paid, not at that time at least. They pay Han Solo but of course he is just a smuggler doing a job and to let him go with the knowledge of their base location with no incentive not to snitch to the Empire would reap no benefit to the Alliance.

I would imagine a proper bureaucratic system got set up as the New Republic came about and grew in strength. Figures like Mon Mothma and Leia likely didn't have anything to worry about but would the average rebel have like a backlog of promised pay for their length of service?

Is there any works that discuss this? I wonder if any Rebels who were members pre Battle of Yavin got a good retirement pension lol.

Slugthrowers aren't commonly used in the Star Wars galaxy, mainly due to having much less ammo capacity when compared to blasters. They aren't significantly more powerful than blasters, and there is no real significant upside to them which balances out the ammo issue.

However, doesn't this extend to things like grenades and rocket launchers? If a blaster power pack holds enough energy to produce 10x as many shots as a real life magazine, shouldn't a hand grenade do the same? If they are, then why aren't slugthrowers and other solid projectile launchers much more common and powerful?

The question who would win, we had already many times. Im more interested, how their first interaction would look like if yoda confronts him. He wasnt a brother like Obi and he wasnt a fatherfigure like qui-gon. But yoda was still respected by Anakin, weve seen that anakin looked for his advice sometimes. Would Anakin really be so arrogant to not fear yoda at this point? What would yoda say to him in the first place? Tell me your opinion please how this conversation before the fight could look like

Just something dumb that popped into my head.

Note: This is not a rant about Andor as I very much enjoyed the show. However this detail bothered me the moment it was mentioned.

Did anyone else have a problem/doubts about the entire planet of Ghorman's population being a measly 800,000 people?

I know Star Wars has always been terrible with numbers, but for one of the most serious pieces of Star Wars media (live action wise) that number felt absurd.

It would be one thing if it was a relatively backwater planet established not too long ago and just got the Empire's attention because of it's Kalkite. Sure Ghorman is listed as a colony in canon but considering how wealthy it is, it has likely been in the Republic for at least hundreds of years, especially since it has developed it's own unique culture and trade in the galaxy. And it only has 800,000 people in all that time?

And yet the Empire still feels the need to do a false flag operation to get them out of the way. I legitimately feel it would have been cheaper, easier, and less time consuming to just forcibly evict everyone and load them onto ships before dropping them off on some backwater planet (or throw them out the airlock into space, it's not like the Empire really cares about anyone's well-being).

Probably would have taken no more than a few months compared to the years they spent setting up proper false flag conditions. I know people would say the Senate would impose but much of the series shows how little the Senate actually matters or cares about anything. They wouldn't be able to lift a finger to help the Ghorman regardless.

I know they mentioned gaming out a disease or disaster during the Krennic meeting but even the excuse they gave to not go with them felt weak (things spiraled too out of control on a planet with 800,000 people?).

So I’ve been kinda out of the Star Wars loop for a while, and I’ve only really watched the first 6 movies + mandalorian and Ashoka and they keep bringing up these remnants, are they the same thing as the first order? And I see there’s like so many different leaders like Thrawn, the shadow council, and whatever warlord is being picked off. Do they all like come together or are they just doing their own things?

We know, there are roughly 1,024 pods in the galactic senate, planets and systems are ordered into sectors, which are represented by 1 senator, for example Padme represented the chommell sector (36 planets), Naboo was the most prosperous planet in that sector and Bail Organa represented the Alderaan sector (5 planets). There were 1.5-1.3 million planets represented by the republic. The delegation of 2,000 was signed by 2,000 fully fledged senators, however there are only 1,024 pods, meant to be 1 pod per sector (and therefore 1 pod per fully fledged senator, (and their advisors and team). How can it represent all these sectors, when the delegation was a minority, meaning there must be so many more senators (10,000-50,000 range), how are all sectors represented and how do they all vote? Futhermore, how could it improve, we all know it was corrupt by the formation of the first galactic empire in 19 BBY, an example is how they would send senators in at a young age so they couldn't be corrupted (padme at 18 and mon mothma at 16), how could it improve, even how could it actually restructure to destroy corruption and actually make the republic do what it "stood" for.

This isn't a question, I am asking how the galactic senate functioned with representation and I want to know how it could improve.

Anakin is a Jedi Knight, and Ahsoka's master. But, he doesn't hold the rank of Jedi Master.

The word master is related to "mister," "maestro," and "magistrate." A master is an expert instructor of younger pupils, and has authority to make decisions. This ranges from a master of servants, to master's degrees, to the martial arts masters in Kung Fu Panda. The word apprentice is related to "apprehend" -- a master lays legal hold on a kid, and the kid commits to learning and grasping the master's trade.

In a medieval craft guild, the "masters" owned workshops and raised 1-3 apprentices at the same time. The apprentices were young boys who assisted their master, in return for food, clothing, shelter, training, and networking. "Journeymen," or "fellows of craft," were adults who had graduated from apprenticeship and now worked for pay, but still hadn't achieved mastery. They traveled around for further networking, and to learn extra techniques from other masters. Only the masters themselves could vote on guild decisions and raise apprentices. If this had been the case with the Jedi, then Anakin's impatience for promotion would be more understandable. What if the Jedi had "fellows of knighthood" who were assigned to teams, that they may continue learning from each other? Then, only Jedi Masters undertook solo missions and instructed padawans.

But, George Lucas seems to have mixed guild hierarchy with the old arrangement of knights and squires. A knight was a noble who possessed expensive armor, an expensive sword, and an expensive horse. He had one or two "squires" -- apprentices from other noble families. When a page boy turned 14, he was squired to a knight. After seven years of service and training, he cut his hair short, spent the night in prayer, and was knighted the following day and given his own sword and spurs. What if Lucas had stuck with this, making Padawans fight with cheaper melee weapons and not be given their own lightsabers until their knighting ceremonies?

Back in the 1990s, we got the early EU comic books, some of them set thousands of years before the films, and one of them is the "Tales of the Jedi" multi-comic series. Here, we are introduced to Ommin, a human Sith affiliated sorcerer and distant descendant of Dark Lord Freedon Nadd, who, like Nadd, ruled over the planet Onderon as its king.

As he got older and used forbidden dark side arts more and more, Ommin began to decay and age rapidly in unnatural ways. To prolong his life and give himself mobility, Ommin created an "exoskeleton" that is a mechanical cybernetics forged out of iron that literally looks like it is weaved in his skin and flesh in various ways, keeping his muscles and body from failing and giving him cohesion and shape. Without Ommin's exoskeleton, he would collapse and die.

In the current Canon era, we see Palpatine return in the Rise of Skywalker. He is horribly disfigured, looks like he is decaying, and has some very huge mechanical device that is hooked up to him that extends up to the ceiling. Rise of Skywalker novels and other material later on says it is called an "Ommin Harness", a type of "mechanical spine" that the original device was constructed and named after Ommin, an ancient Sith king and direct reference to the Tales of the Jedi lore I explained above, (pretty cool to me personally).

Anyways now that you know what an Ommin Harness is, I want to ask: How does it work? It is hard to see in Rise of Skywalker, but it seems to be hooked up to Palpatine's back. When later material and the novelizations clarify this, it is called a "mechanical spine", implying it is hooked to and connected to Palpatine's nervous system and actual spine.

There is also the fact that, now that we know Palpatine's decaying body in TROS is a failing clone body decaying due to the immense dark side power of Palpatine's soul, the Ommin Harness, like its Legends counterpart, seemingly not only gives Palpatine mobility, but it also seems to have vitals that sustain and try to slow down the decay for as long as possible. We even see these fluid vitals and tubes connected to Palpatine's body underneath, and the Rise of Skywalker comic adaptation even shows us a panel of a brief flashback of when Palpatine's clone body was fresh and young but dangered and imperfect and prone to decay, the Sith Eternal began hooking these vital fluid tubes into many areas in his skin and body, before connecting him to the Ommin Harness.

I don't know if the fluid vital tubes are part of the same cybernetics of the Ommin Harness, but in a nutshell we know one thing: That Palpatine's decay was slowed down by vitals, fluid tubes, that are connected to various places in his body, and he has a mechanical spine, (the Harness), connected to his spine in his back and presumbly allows his nervous system to control the Ommin Harness.

So, with that said: I have a question: After draining Rey and Ben Solo of their force energy that allowed to heal himself because they possessed the power of the Dyad: How did Palpatine "disconnect" himself from the Harness?

The novelization says he "released himself from the Ommin Harness", but is that even possible? How can he "unhook" something that is connected to his spine? Could the Harness kind of work like the mechanical arms of Dr. Octavious from Sam Raimi's Spiderman 2 film? The Ommin Harness can hook itself to Palpatine and his nervous system like Octavious and safely "undo" the hooking without any surgical need to?

This question has bothered me. Also, how did Palpatine's fluid tubes that connected to his whole body got gone? They are not seen anymore. Did they just "magically vanish" with the Force from the Force drain sucking of the Dyad? Why don't we see the Ommin Harness anymore when it was literally extends to a large crane in the ceiling that the whole throne room can see?

Inspiration for this question came from battle of Kamino from Clone Wars when they were monitoring falling debris from Grievous’s fleet.

Im curious if anyone here has any good speculation on how the defeat of Thrawn will lead into the Rise of the First Order

As of now everything we've seen has been THE EMPIRE

But the First Order considers itself a new entinity a new regime

Is Thrawn the last gasp of the old Empire before something new takes it place?

We’ve seen space travel have many dangers, even inside hyperspace which seemingly is self contained. But we know ships can be pulled out of hyperspace by things like gravity and large objects blocking lanes. Could objects like asteroids or other large space objects that were without piloting capabilities like hyperdrives or even engines enter hyperspace? Either accidentally (being pushed into it by ship ie.) or “purposely” (idk how that would happen)?

At the start of Jedi, Vader makes a big deal to Jejerrod of the Emperor being "most displeased" at the "lack" of progress on the second Death Star. So much so that he's doing a site visit himself.

Jejerrod is visibly terrified. But was Vader just trolling, or did Vader genuinely not know that the station was close to, or had an operational super laser?

It also begs the question, as we find out later, the Emperor visits to draw the rebels into a trap, so did Jejerrod also not know this plan?

I noticed Grievous usually only uses 2 arms when fighting in TCW and when losing he runs away versus using all four, really weird. It's like he was given orders not to go all out, or wanted to save the 4 arm trick for when he needed to. Is there any explanation for why?