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I never noticed that Jedi Order patch on the black version of Cal's default shirt had text around it. Any idea what the aurebesh says?

u/SheepScape — 14 hours ago

Doma's shop merchandises

Sry Eng is not my mother language)

Are goods I bought from Doma sustained in New game +?

It's fking hard to collect priority shards so I wanna initialize all locations of them for the Doma's shop trophy by starting NG+

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u/Adventurous_Fuel2055 — 10 hours ago

Pequeña anécdota de Fallen Order

Les cuento que, en su momento, me pasé jedi fallen order con solo 3 estimulantes, ya que no sabía que a lo largo del juego podías obtener más de estos frascos jajaj. Con solo estos 3 estimulantes acabé con todos los jefes y niveles jeje.

Esto fue en 2022, ya para jedi survivor conocía sobre esto y ahí si junté todos los estimulantes posibles.

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u/EmiZaragCas12 — 8 hours ago
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The Naming Convention in Jedi Survivor is a Joke

Don't worry, this isn't a critical rant! I've been playing this game for a while now (and loving it), but every so often I'll see a name and something with nag at me. As I'm sure most of you know, Star Wars has a history of easter egg type names, like Cin Drallig for Nic Gillard's cameo jedi, or Senator Greblips (Spielberg backwards) for the "ET" alien. The other day I noticed that Korej Lim is an anagram of Joker ILM, so I decided to pull up a wiki page and see if I could spot any more easter eggs. That turned out to be a deep rabbit hole!

It seems like almost every other name in the game is some kind of joke, or reference. People sometimes talk about the obvious ones like Cere ("seer", the wise sage who looks ahead), greasy Greez, Bode (who bides his time), but I haven't seen the general idea of the many jokes discussed anywhere, so I wanted to post this here.

At this point, I've probably got about as far as I can get by myself, so I want to throw this out into the world and see what we can come up with! I'd love to know if anyone has any inside information, interviews, experience, etc that can confirm the things that need inside information, like "Garage Dan". But otherwise your thoughts on what names could be references to would be great. Hopefully this can be an interesting discussion!

Here's the list of my ideas so far. I've spoiler tagged this because discussing deeper meanings of character names can go that way.

In Jokes for Devs

Dagan Gera: "Garage Dan" - I like to think that during development for the game there was someone called Dan, who worked from home, in his garage.                                                         

Selfin Jook: "Self In Joke" - a reference to all the in jokes the team have made for themselves with these names.                                                            

Fenn Finau: "Fine for now" - maybe a placeholder that stuck                                                               

Anoth Estra: "Another Extra" - also almost an anagram of "North East" but that could be a coincidence, especially as they're found in the Southlands                                                             

Massi Fenau: "Messy for now" - perhaps chosen once Fenn Finau had stuck                                                           

Vaslyn Martz: "Vaseline Marks" - Maybe an effect they were working on ended up looking like vaseline marks on the camera? Or perhaps a reference to something in the office.                                                                      

San Dressen: "Sans Dressing" - perhaps the way someone in the office orders their salad?                                                          

In Jokes for Players

Korej Lim: "Joker ILM" - it's a perfect anagram and I'm sure I've seen a black and white jester/joker head at the end of a Star Wars credits, but I can't find it anywhere.                                                         

Gatt Medo: "DOTT Game" DOTT is Day of the Tentacle, an old Lucasarts game.                                                                       

Urghost: "Your Ghost" - spawns just after you kill Dagan, who does a bunch of ghostly stuff                                                         

Caij Vanda: "Cage Vendor" - she sends you after bounty hunters who want to capture you - she's selling cages.                                                             

Beetu Deetu: "B2-D2" - RD-D2 but a B2 Battle Droid                                                                   

Corde the Half: A bit of a stretch, but possibly a reference to Cordé (Padmé’s decoy in Attack of the Clones). Half, just like she is half of a duo when impersonating the Queen.                                                                     

Simple Word Play/Soundalikes

Meyen Corr: "My anchor"                                                              

Kili Oso: "Kill you so"                                                        

Kip Ostar: "K-Pop Star"                                                                    

D-L1T: "Delight"                                                                   

PR-85T: "Pretty Fighty"                                                                     

Drya Thornne: "Dry Thorn"                                                           

Hunches

Mash: not sure, but feels like a reference to something                                                            

Mads Gresh: Perhaps a reference to Mads Mikkelsen (Galen Urso)? It feels like there must be something in the pairing of Mads Gresh and San Dressen, but I can't see it.                                                                   

E3-VE3: "Evie"? Feels like something here, but I'm not sure                                                                    

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u/Tirno93 — 13 hours ago

Vader will try to turn Cal into his apprentice in Jedi 3

Looking back at the story across both games, I am convinced Respawn is setting up a massive twist for the finale. Vader is going to stop trying to kill Cal and instead manipulate him into becoming his true Sith Apprentice.
Here is how his mindset shifts between the two games:

The First Game: Vader just wanted a high-tier Inquisitor
In Fallen Order, Vader watches Cal defeat Trilla (the Second Sister) and knows he already bested the Ninth Sister. After Vader executes Trilla for her failure, he suddenly has open slots in his lineup. When he confronts Cal, he does not instantly kill him. Instead, he calmly says, "You would be wise to surrender." When Cal tries to strike, Vader effortlessly freezes his arm instead of instantly decapitating him. He is testing Cal's limits because he wants to break him, strip his identity, and force him into the Inquisitorius. At this point, Cal is valuable to him, but only as a high-tier hunting dog.

But then, Cal does something almost no one else does: he survives Darth Vader and escapes. During the encounter, Cal manages to escape Vader's lethal Force choke by simultaneously throwing machinery at him to break his focus.

Vader then focuses on egging Cere Junda on, hoping to push her over the edge, noting, "You would have made an excellent Inquisitor." But Cal acts as Cere’s anchor, keeping her from going over the brink to the Dark Side and completely thwarting Vader's attempts to corrupt her. Escaping the Dark Lord of the Sith on his own home turf at the Fortress Inquisitorius is no small feat. It is a massive embarrassment for Vader, but it also proves that Cal possesses an incredible amount of grit, resourcefulness, and survival instinct. Vader does not forget a slight like that, and escaping a Sith Lord alive puts Cal in an entirely different tier of threat.

Fast forward to Jedi: Survivor. Years after Cal saved her from the dark path, Cere has fully conquered her darkness. This inner peace allows her to give Vader as good of a fight as almost anyone in the galaxy, nearly defeating him before her death—a feat that would not have been possible without Cal keeping her balanced in the first place.

Shortly after, Lank Denvik's treason brings Vader directly to Nova Garon. When Vader walks through the ruins of the base, he sees a level of destruction that no ordinary Jedi is capable of. He tortures Denvik to find out who did this, and when Denvik breaks, a massive realization hits Vader. It was not some hidden Jedi Master—it was Cal Kestis. The exact same kid who escaped him at the Fortress, saved Cere from turning, and indirectly caused Vader's near-death on Jedha.

Vader also knows Cal has grown considerably since their last encounter. He would have tracked how Cal went from barely staving off the Ninth Sister on Kashyyyk in the first game to easily dispatching and executing her right under the Empire's nose on Coruscant.

Vader actively despises the Inquisitors because he thinks they are weak. But connecting the dots changes everything. Seeing the pure carnage Cal left behind on Nova Garon—combined with the knowledge of how easily he executed the Ninth Sister, his grit to escape a Sith Lord, and his power to anchor other Jedi—gives Vader a dark inspiration.

He does not see an Inquisitor candidate anymore—he sees a mirror reflection of Anakin Skywalker. He sees a powerful, Dark-Side-wielding weapon capable of helping him overthrow Palpatine. Remember, this is years before Luke Skywalker enters the picture. The Sith Rule of Two dictates Vader needs a secret apprentice, and Cal just proved he has the raw power for the job.

Instead of Vader just showing up as an unstoppable boss fight to execute Cal, the narrative tension will be way higher. Vader is going to hunt Cal down with the exact same ultimatum he later gives to Luke Skywalker in Cloud City: join me or die.

Vader knows Cal is grieving Cere and Cordova, and that he is harboring a deep darkness. By cornering Cal and threatening to destroy everything he has left—including Tanalorr, Merrin, and Kata—Vader will try to manipulate Cal's desperation. He will offer Cal a partnership to overthrow the Emperor and protect his people, exploiting Cal's grief exactly how Palpatine exploited Anakin's.

TL;DR: In Fallen Order, Vader offered Cal a chance to surrender because he wanted him as an Inquisitor, but Cal managed to break Vader's Force choke with thrown machinery, anchor Cere from falling to the Dark Side, and escape. Years later, a balanced Cere gives Vader the fight of his life, a feat made possible because Cal kept her centered. When Vader later tortures Lank Denvik and realizes the absolute dark-side devastation at Nova Garon was caused by that very same Cal Kestis—tracking his massive growth from barely staving off the Ninth Sister to easily dispatching her on Coruscant—his mindset shifts. He does not want Cal as a basic Inquisitor anymore. In Jedi 3, Vader will hunt Cal to manipulate him with the ultimate Sith ultimatum: join him as his secret apprentice to overthrow Palpatine, or die.

What do you guys think? Is Cal being set up to face the Cloud City choice before Luke ever does?

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u/No-Service4735 — 20 hours ago

Help - radio call not working?

NG+ Chapter 3

Every time I load the game here at the Venator Crash site and walk forward, I get this “Radio Call” click right stick pop up - see screenshot.

This does NOT show if I simply go back to the mediation point and meditate, only if I load the game from the title menu.

BUT nothing happens when I click the right stick.

Is this just a glitch? Or is something supposed to happen?

TIA 🙏🏻

u/Star-Owl- — 1 day ago

Okay i finally get why spawn of ogdo is so difficult. Randomized attack pattern.

Spawn of Ogdo just has randomized attack patterns you cant really learn. Sometimes he does one bite. Somtimes he does two. Stomtimes he ends his attack with an unnlockable jump or dash or he just jumps away.

Its really frustraiting since you cant really cancel your attacks so you probably getting hit because the game ant really tell you when you should attack.

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u/Benefit_Upbeat — 2 days ago

How Cal changes hair styles instantly mid fight

BD-1 with a mix of Pyloon’s hair Greez can make cal go from being bald to having a mullet in a matter of seconds!

u/ObiWanKenobeee — 3 days ago
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Major Partagaz and other ISB operatives reading through the after-action report for Cal Kestis’ massacre at Nova Garon.

u/CrazyTangerine7522 — 2 days ago

Am I the only one who thought he was already dead?

When I played Survivor for the first time, I was genuinely surprised to see Eno Cordova in the flesh. I had kind of just assumed he was already dead, and that the holograms in Fallen Order were from before Order 66.

Did I miss something very obvious? Did anyone else make the same mistake? Please tell me I’m not the only one haha.

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u/manateeguitar — 3 days ago
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my theories for jedi 3

i hope i'm allowed to post this.

so i've been forming my theory about Cal's end for quite some time now and i would like to hear your opinion.

its based on a rumor that there's going to be a significant time jump between survivor and the 3rd game.

im thinking Cal must've missed the victory of the rebels or simply doesnt believe that the empire fell¹ so he keeps on doing what he did for the last few years - rescuing people from the remnants and building a society on Tanalorr.²

since he's cut off from the galaxy he dismisses the news of a powerful jedi and the possibility of the new jedi order as he did in Fallen Order. by the time he actually meets jedi master Luke and shares his views on the rebuild it's too late³. Luke already made up his mind and he can't tell him otherwise.

this generates just enough tension between the two that Cal feels he needs to act on it for the sake of the children and meets his end by Luke.⁴

¹-Cal's never been seen on the organized rebel alliance's side

²-battlerfont 2's story shows us how even after ~20 years former imperials still believe in their cause.

³-Cal respects the Jedi as he did with Cere but thinks involving children is not the way.

⁴-Luke later regrets building the new order - he might've had Cal on his mind before attacking Ben Solo

im not sure if there's a better way for Cal to go down while fighting for something he believes in.

can Merrin be an inspiration or an enemy for Morgan Elsbeth?

will Tanalorr be forgotten?

will Baylan Skoll and Shin Hati form their ways following Cal's way of the force?

why can or can't this outcome work?

i obvoiusly have a lot of questions for the story's place in the world of star wars that i'd happily discuss.

thank you for forming your opinion.

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u/JIMBULTRON — 1 day ago

Oggdo Bogdo fell through the floor..?

does anyone know what happened here? honestly, I kinda feel cheated out of the first boss fight in the game. if it's something I did accidentally I want to avoid it going forward! thanks x

u/ReallyJayBee — 2 days ago